AI Hype vs. Reality. Real Stats from Laura Tacho, CTO of DX

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Laura Tacho, CTO at DX and long-time friend of the show, to discuss AI usage and success in teams adopting AI and Agents to generate code and perform tasks.

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We finally have some real data on this topic, and Laura Tacho in her role at DX, the developer experience company, has been studying AI successes and failures in the industry and has released a framework to measure AI impact in an orgs software lifecycle. Check out the video podcast version here: youtube.com/watch?v=0G_TWLHkj7U
★Show Links★
AI Measurement Framework (getdx.com/blog/introducing-the-ai-measurement-…)
DX Core 4 Framework (getdx.com/report/dx-core-4)
Applying the Core 4 Framework (getdx.com/blog/how-to-measure-core-4-metrics)

Creators & Guests

• Bret Fisher (agenticdevops.fm/people/bret-fisher) - Host

• Beth Fisher (agenticdevops.fm/people/beth-fisher) - Producer

• Cristi Cotovan (agenticdevops.fm/people/cristi-cotovan) - Editor

• Nirmal Mehta (agenticdevops.fm/people/nirmal-mehta) - Host

• Laura Tacho (agenticdevops.fm/people/laura-tacho) - Guest

• (00:00) - Teaser

• (03:05) - Welcome

• (04:58) - AI Measurement Framework

• (07:40) - Distilling Fact from Fiction with AI

• (23:42) - Skepticism and Adoption of AI Tools

• (26:20) - Measuring AI Impact on Developer Work

• (47:30) - Assisted vs Agentic

• (54:22) - More Gains from Training Humans on AI

• (01:02:59) - Measuring AI's Impact

• (01:08:38) - Context Switching

• (01:12:03) - Navigating AI Hype and Reality

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