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AI in Education Podcast

von Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming

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Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming are experienced education renegades who have worked in many various educational institutions and educational companies across the world. They talk about Artificial Intelligence in Education - what it is, how it works, and the different ways it is being used. It's not too serious, or too technical, and is intended to be a good conversation.

Please note the views on the podcast are our own or those of our guests, and not of our respective employers (unless we say otherwise at the time!)

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  1. Are AI Tutors Making Students Learn Less?

    What if giving students access to AI tutors actually makes them learn less? This week, Ray and Dan examine two new randomised trials that challenge some of the assumptions about AI in education. One found that AI tutoring was as effective a

  2. When AI Outsmarts Mathematicians: What Happens to Maths Education?

    What happens to maths education when AI becomes better at mathematics than the mathematicians themselves? In this episode of the AI in Education Podcast, Ray and Dan are joined by Rita Bateson, founder of Eblana Learning and an expert in cu

  3. When AI Helps Students Learn Less: What the Research Reveals

    Is AI actually improving learning, or are we making things easier without making students better learners? This week we explore five research studies challenging assumptions about AI in education. From AI-assisted grading and student motiva

  4. Building Superhumans: Reinventing Schools for the AI Age

    What if AI could help us build schools that don't just prepare students for the future, but fundamentally rethink what education should look like? In this episode, Ray and Dan are joined by Will Campbell, Founding Head of Franklin School in

  5. The AI Learning Paradox: Better Results, Less Learning?

    In this episode Ray and Dan explore a whirlwind of AI announcements and research, asking a critical question: Is AI helping students learn, or simply helping them produce better work? Australian universities are going all-in on AI, with UNS

  6. Andrew Fuller on AI, neurodiversity and personalised learning

    Clinical psychologist and author Andrew Fuller joins Ray and Dan to explore how AI could support neurodivergent learners, strengthen student agency and change the role of teachers. Andrew argues that neurodiversity should be understood thro

  7. Don't Panic: AI Might End Humanity, But Apparently Laptops Ended Education First

    This week on the AI in Education Podcast, Ray is taking a well-earned break, hopefully enjoying a piña colada somewhere sunny while still keeping one eye on the week's AI headlines. Joining Dan as special co-host is Chris Goodall, education

  8. Dr Phil Cummins: The Tide Is In — AI Is Here

    AI is already changing education. So why are we still trying to hold back the tide? In this episode, Dan and Ray are joined by Dr Phil Cummins, educator, author, co-host of the Game Changers podcast, and Professor of Practice in Education a

  9. Is AI in Education Reaching an Inflection Point?

    Recorded live at the National Education Summit in Melbourne, this episode explores whether AI in education has reached an inflection point. Ray and Dan unpack a series of recent stories showing how quickly AI is becoming part of wider debat

  10. Inside Oxford's AI Competency Centre: Rethinking Assessment and Authorship

    What does authorship mean when AI can help us turn our ideas into polished academic writing? And how should universities rethink assessment as those tools become part of everyday life? In this episode, we're joined by Kelly Webb-Davies, Lea

  11. AI in Education: Who Gets to Decide?

    Who gets to decide how AI is used in education? Government decides what happens to assessment. Google decides whether Gemini appears by default. OpenAI and parents decide controls for teenagers. Universities and unions decide workplace AI a

  12. When Does AI Help Learning - and When Does It Replace It?

    What does the research actually tell us about when generative AI helps learning, and when it starts to replace it? Ray and Dan are joined by Dr Natasha Arthars and Dr Hongzhi (Veronica) Yang from the University of Sydney, and Dr Matthew Hil

  13. Is AI Helping Students Perform, or Actually Learn?

    This week, Ray and Dan end up discussing a fundamental question: what is education actually for in the age of AI? They explore new EU AI Act transparency requirements and the emerging role of AI watermarking, including what this could mean

  14. The Hidden Gender Gap in AI Education, with Juliana Peloche

    The Hidden Gender Gap in AI Education, with Juliana Peloche In this episode of the AI in Education Podcast, we welcome Juliana Peloche (https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliana-peloche-phd/) to explore one of the most important (and often overlo

  15. Two Free AI Resources Every Teacher Should Download

    Two Free AI Resources Every Teacher Should Download Lee Barrett joins Ray to unpack the biggest AI in education news and research. This week, while Dan enjoys the Pacific Northwest, Ray is joined by returning guest Lee Barrett (from CEnet)

  16. Why AI in Education Starts With Better Conversations: Dr Jo Orlando

    How can schools and parents help young people navigate AI while supporting learning, wellbeing and critical thinking? In this episode, Dan and Ray are joined by digital wellbeing researcher Dr Jo Orlando (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joanneo

  17. Higher Marks, Lower Learning? AI's Favourite Magic Trick

    Higher Marks, Lower Learning? AI's Favourite Magic Trick This week, Ray and Dan unpack a bumper collection of AI in education news and research, all pointing to one critical question: Is AI helping students learn…or just helping them score

  18. What schools and small business can teach each other about AI

    Most Australian students won't graduate into global tech companies. They'll build careers in small and medium businesses. So are schools and universities preparing them for that reality? In this episode, Dan and Ray are joined by Amanda Ros

  19. We've Read the AI Reports So You Don't Have To - Series 17, Episode 9

    This week, Ray and Dan dive into a mountain of new AI in education research, so you don't have to. They unpack major reports from around the world covering how students are really using AI, why schools are still struggling to provide clear

  20. Victoria Hedlund on AI bias: What every teacher needs to know

    AI systems are increasingly being used in education, but what happens when those systems introduce hidden bias into learning, feedback, assessment and career advice? In this episode, we're joined by Victoria Hedlund (AKA The AI Bias Girl),

  21. More A's, More Fails: What AI Is Really Doing to Student Performance

    What happens when AI helps students earn more A grades, and also contributes to more failures when it's taken away? In this episode, Ray and Dan explore new research on AI's impact on student performance, assessment integrity, and learning.

  22. Flourishing in the Age of AI: Schools Putting Humans First

    What does it mean to put humans first in the age of AI? Recorded at the Flourish Conference, this special episode brings together three school leaders who are using AI in very different ways, and with a common focus on human agency. You'll

  23. Why One Law School Just Banned AI

    Why would a leading law school ban AI entirely while other countries are giving every citizen access to ChatGPT? In this news-focused episode, Ray and Dan unpack some of the biggest developments shaping AI and education around the world. Th

  24. Pasi Sahlberg on AI and Flourishing in education

    What is the purpose of education in an AI-driven world? In this thought-provoking episode of the AI in Education Podcast, Ray and Dan sit down with Pasi Sahlberg to explore one of the biggest questions facing schools, universities, and soci

  25. Flourish: The Human Role in AI and Education

    This special live episode of the AI in Education Podcast was recorded at the CEnet Future:Forward Conference "Flourish 2026", where Dan and Ray explored one of the biggest questions facing education today: how do schools find the "happy mid

  26. Inside Sydney's AI Hub: Building University Automation That Works

    Inside Sydney's AI Hub: Building University Automation That Works In this episode, Dan and Ray are joined by Dan Hart, now leading the Automation and Innovation Hub at the University of Sydney. Dan shares how the Hub has evolved from a robo

  27. What we learned from teachers at Sydney's Day of AI

    We kick off Series 17 with a multi-interview episode! Recorded live at the The Anglican Schools Corporation "Day of AI" in Western Sydney, this episode brings together three educators who are reshaping teaching, assessment and student learn

  28. The Castlereagh Moment: Education at a Turning Point with AI?

    This week's episode explores a defining moment for education in the age of AI. Fresh from a week of major events in Sydney, including the Microsoft AI Summit, Dan and Ray unpack the newly released Castlereagh Statement - a collaboration bet

  29. From Classroom to Impact: How Dawn Knight Uses AI to Help Students Thrive

    In this episode, we're joined by Dawn Knight, a sustainability lead and specialist support educator working with deaf students in a UK secondary school (Epsom and Ewell High School). Dawn shares how she's using AI in simple, practical ways

  30. Australia's AI moment: Fast adoption, slow policy, big questions

    In this episode, Dan and Ray explore how AI is rapidly reshaping education, workplaces, and policy - often faster than institutions can respond. They unpack new guidance from NSW's NESA on student AI use, highlighting the growing tension be

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