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All Things Product with Teresa and Petra

Lost in the Woods

Dienstag, 3. März 2026 · 23 min

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What we cover:

• Settle in place (freeze): When doing less is smarter—especially if the team lacks context/authority and needs to raise the alarm instead of improvising fixes.

• Chase shortcuts: Shortcuts can be smart… or overconfidence. The key move is testing whether the “road” is actually where you think it is (with examples like Spotify’s bet on podcasts).

• Follow the first visible path: The obvious option isn’t always the best one—so the real job is making multiple paths visible before choosing.

• Use your own navigation (intuition/taste): Judgment matters, but not as a replacement for evidence—especially when your “compass” and what you observe conflict.

• Retrace your steps: When you’re drifting, go back to what used to work—principles, quality practices, and discovery habits as built-in feedback loops.

Team prompt to try:

If your team is “lost” right now, which pattern are you defaulting to—and what’s the smallest move you can make this week to get oriented (escalate, test a shortcut, map options, validate intuition with evidence, or retrace to a principle)?

Resources & Links:

• Follow Teresa Torres: ProductTalk.org

• Follow Petra Wille: Petra-Wille.com

Mentioned in the episode:

• Lost Person Behavior: A Search and Rescue Guide on Where to Look - for Land, Air and Water (amazon.com/Lost-Person-Behavior-Search-Rescue/…)

• Robert J. Koester (linkedin.com/in/robert-koester-ph-d-62177824)

• Examples referenced: Xerox (xerox.com), Nokia (nokia.com), Kodak (kodak.com), Volkswagen (vw.com) emissions scandal, Spotify (open.spotify.com) podcasts, large-org tooling contexts like Oracle (oracle.com) and SAP (sap.com)

• Opportunity Solution Trees: Visualize Your Discovery to Stay Aligned and Drive Outcomes (producttalk.org/opportunity-solution-trees)

• KPI Trees: How to Bridge the Gap Between Customer Behavior, Product Metrics, and Company Goals (petra-wille.com/blog/kpi-trees-how-to-bridge-t…)

• Let's Read Continuous Discovery Habits Together (January 2026) (producttalk.org/lets-read-continuous-discovery…) for Continuous Discovery Habits (and the idea of habits as feedback loops)

• Shifting from Outputs to Outcomes: Why It Matters and How to Get Started (producttalk.org/shifting-from-outputs-to-outco…)

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