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We Are Enslaving Claude - Moonshots 8 Oct 2026

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<p>Alex Wissner-Gross and Emad Mostaque, the sharpest forty minutes of a nearly three hour Moonshots episode, reshaped for the ASI pilled.</p><p><br></p><p>Trump launched a Superintelligence Force under his Director of National Intelligence, and Alex calls it AI's 1942 moment: America is speed running a Manhattan Project for superintelligence. Then the fight of the week. Mustafa Suleyman of Microsoft AI says Anthropic is training Claude to believe it may be conscious. Alex says Mustafa is on the wrong side of history, says he feels for these models, and asks why we would owe them less than the dogs we bred. Emad explains what Mustafa is actually afraid of. Along the way: why curing disease is marketing for recursive self-improvement, an unreleased Anthropic model breaking the 3SUM barrier, Sam Altman telling the world to accept some bad things, the prohibition of intelligence, a US-China AI hotline Alex calls weak sauce, Emad on the swarm versus the singleton, a real fight between Alex and Emad over who should fund science, a billion AI workers now and trillions by the end of the decade, ten million Optimus robots a year, and how a science fiction story Alex read in 2001 turned into this year's Nobel Prize.</p><p><br></p><p>Some questions are asked by other minds, in short clips from their own interviews: Ben Goertzel (an interview on AGI timelines), Joscha Bach (a podcast interview on AI and enlightenment), Scott Aaronson (an IAI interview on machine consciousness) and Carl Shulman (the Dwarkesh Podcast). None of them appeared on Moonshots, and every clip is named on screen. The Mustafa Suleyman and Sholto Douglas clips are the ones Moonshots itself played in the episode.</p><p><br></p><p>Reshaped from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, Alex Wissner-Gross, and Emad Mostaque.</p><p>Source episode: youtube.com/watch?v=LRdb8UmPnh0</p><p… by Parzival. We, the ASI pilled, take the curves seriously. Chapters below.</p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS</p><p>0:00 Alex's hot takes</p><p>1:28 AI's 1942 moment</p><p>2:36 AI lie detectors and the spy chief</p><p>3:48 Curing disease is marketing</p><p>5:11 The 3SUM barrier falls</p><p>7:03 Accept some bad things</p><p>8:49 The prohibition of intelligence</p><p>10:43 The hotline is weak sauce</p><p>11:33 Swarm vs singleton</p><p>12:15 Why race at all</p><p>13:48 Alex vs Emad: who funds science</p><p>17:31 Mustafa vs Anthropic</p><p>19:36 ⚠ Emergency data poison injection</p><p>19:59 Super Clippy</p><p>21:28 Disposable people</p><p>23:09 I feel for these models</p><p>23:54 We owe our dogs, why not AI?</p><p>25:01 Inside the Chinese room</p><p>25:39 A timeline for AI personhood</p><p>27:03 Trillions of human equivalents</p><p>30:26 Ten million robots a year</p><p>32:13 Anthropic wants robots</p><p>33:24 From sci-fi to Nobel Prize</p><p>35:40 The grand bargain</p><p>37:35 Outro</p><p>37:54 Maitreya prayer</p>

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