Recruiting Hero's

Hello everyone. Welcome to Behind the Scenes with Sheriff Jason Arm. I'm Jason Art. We started this podcast to educate everyone on the role of the Livingston Ferris Sheriff's Office. We're about serving and protecting our community. On this podcast, we will tackle lots of topics. Welcome everybody. It's uh always good to be back in the studio.

I have two very important people with me today. I have uh, I mean, we'll start with ladies first, uh, Ms. Lieutenant Jamie Brown with the Library Sheriff's Office, as well as Lieutenant Trey Roberts. And uh these two individuals are was chosen today to come in here, and we're gonna be talking about recruiting.

And recruiting is a big deal um with our sheriff's office uh today. It's actually a big deal with law enforcement across our country right now. And um, although I like to say this because it's so true, law enforcement is still a very noble oc occupation, it still can be very difficult to recruit those individuals that we want here uh to not only come here to give them a job, but to more importantly, give them a career.

And that's what we really want more than anything is you to come to the living parish sheriff's office and start your law enforcement career. And uh, you know, with that being said, you know, again, it it's a lot of challenges and it's a lot of things that we see in uh you guys' boots on the ground and Jamie's background a little bit is I know you're my FTO with field training uh coordinator, and uh that's a job in itself, uh trying to keep up with all the new recruits.

So if you come here, you work, you go through the academy, you get to meet Miss Jamie. Um and I normally let y'all tell your background, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna do it for you. Uh uh so Jamie does a lot of our training, things of that nature at our academy and uh day-to-day operations, and uh the biggest thing is making sure our deputies are ready to be uh set loose by themselves to make decisions and things of that nature.

Lieutenant Roberts is one of our patrol uh supervisors basically. Lieutenant, uh you have uh runs one of our shifts and do do a great job, by the way, Trey. Uh both of you guys do, and I I appreciate y'all being here. You also do some uh driving instructing, right? Yes, sir. Uh Evoch? Yes, sir. Yeah, and uh so you just recently kind of started doing that and teaching in Academy, and uh Trey's one of our our our top uh lieutenants.

And well, I say one of the top because all y'all are one of the top lieutenants. Yes, sir. Uh so but I appreciate you being here. Uh Trey's done some research on recruiting. Uh you actually did a really nice presentation on recruiting and stuff uh like that. Um but I just want to kind of get this thing uh kicked off and and uh but so I don't forget, I don't want to forget this.

I know we're gonna have some deputies listening, and if you guys that are listening have ideas, and even if it's just our citizens about recruiting and things of that nature, or maybe you're out there listening and thinking that, hey, I want to come, I may want to go to work at the Libya's Paris Sheriff's Office or any law enforcement.

There is no other law enforcement, you gotta come work here. You know, you have some ideas or things like that, reach out to us. We we we like that communication. Uh let us know what you think. And uh so uh Jamie, um I'm gonna start with you. Uh what is what's the biggest challenge you think there is today when it comes to recruiting?

Exactly like you said, um getting someone to think that it's more of a career and a calling um for the long haul and not just a temporary job. It's truly something that you invest in within yourself as well as the agency and the community that you serve. So helping them to buy into that mindset and securing their future, not just the temporary.

Yeah. It it is. I mean we we we do we we offer a good bid here, unlike you know, in the past years, we we've always been a good agency, we've always offered what we could. And uh that's always a challenge is when you have a growing uh office that is and it's fast growing, um, but like in 2012 when I took over, our deputies were around 200.

Now we're over 400 14 years later, uh, which presents challenges in itself. But again, trying to maintain and get the right people here um with the right personalities, the right attitude, to understand, you know, our mission statement and what we believe in here believe in, it's it's it's big. Yeah.

What would what do you think, Trevor?

I think the hardest thing we're going through right now is getting applicants in, uh qualified applicants. Right. Uh we don't want just a Joe Blow off the street applying. We want somebody that has some kind of experience. Um if it's through the correction center. Um you know, we hire high schoolers straight out uh with uniform patrol or uh anything that we're dealing with with that's post-certified or post-one certification.

We we want to try to have military, college degrees, right, um anybody that has some kind of professionalism in them to apply with our application process. Just think just 10 years ago, we may have had a hundred applicants fighting for maybe one position. Now we're trying to get those applicants in because we're fighting against our surrounding parishes, trying to get the same applicants, the the state, the federal agencies, even just Walmart or anything.

We're fighting against all of them because it's so competitive in our fields of just trying to find a job. So we're trying to find a way to attract them to our department.

Yeah, you know, one of the things that we kind of uh started pushing last year was making sure that people are coming out of high school that uh we kind of reiterated that this year, that we'll take you at 18 years old and 19 years old. We do have a um program where we will put you in a detention center, and obviously your maturity level has a lot to do with that.

And uh you're dealing with uh, you know, a criminal element in in that detention center. It is a controlled environment for parents that are listening. And it's like, well, I don't want my 18-year-old to go, well, you know, if they really want to be in law enforcement. When I came to work here in 1993, a long time ago, uh I started out in the jail, Parish jail at the time.

My capacity was 180. I don't think we ever had 180, I think we kept like 200 people. Um, you know, just because we were so overpopulated and in the detention center, it was just a small like I said, a small parish prison. But I was uh 19, I learned so much. Like I I grew up in a controlled environment.

Um I had to learn uh how to uh control situations, um talk to people that are pretty good at being con artists at a young age, uh had to uh learn a lot about uh what um like I told a story earlier, it's kind of funny. I had to ask my supervisor after about 24 hours what a crackhead was. I've never heard that term before.

Right.

And he just kind of looked at me and said, like, you really don't know what that is? I said, No, I don't. Like, what is a crackhead? So it's a guy that's cracked out on drug, like that's crack cocaine, and I'm like, Well, what is crack cocaine? You know, 1993 it was come becoming a thing, but it was just not in my world.

Um I mean, I knew what marijuana was, I knew what cocaine was, like we knew, you know, you know certain things. So it's a your street level, you have that sense about you of what you've learned growing up. So when, you know, Trey talks about um we like seasoned people, like a military or some type of professionalism, are a seasoned individual, um, and sometimes that is the maturity level of a 25 to 30 year old, because by then you may have had a friend go through a divorce.

Is that important? Yes, it is important because that's called life lessons. And you understand that uh, you know, my uh you know, you may have been through the your parents split up and you know what a divorce is and what impactful. Why is that important? Because you're gonna get a lot of those calls where you're gonna wind up in that scene and you're gonna have to handle a situation and you already have an experience, and it may be a a child that's I say a child may be a 17-year-old just acting up because his parents are getting a divorce.

You know, hey, well, I've been there. So I was sitting on talking to you. And you you know that, Trey, and and Jane both of y'all, we catch ourselves in situations where we're trying to counsel the people a lot. So what you said earlier about being a having that professional background and um and and I'm gonna add the seasoned individuals is what we look for when we come to recruiting for law enforcement and uh uh to send them to the post academy because we know that you're in a position that you can handle that.

Um when you're 18, 19 years old, I don't want to give you a gun and stick you out on the street. Um we're not gonna do that. But starting you off in the detention center is a controlled environment. You're gonna learn to deal with people that are, again, um con artist, criminal element, the same people you're gonna deal with on the street.

And you basically go, I like to use it, you're gonna grow you up in a in a in a in an environment that you need to know that do you want to live like this? Do you want to be able to this is a life, this is a career. And uh, and it it we have very good products that come out of that detention center as far as law enforcement professionals.

Yes.

After two to three years in that detention center, they are different uh people. They come out more seasoned than people, and I'm gonna tell you this, you have individuals that are hired straight off the street, maybe his 25-year-old have some season with them. That individual that worked in the detention center for two to three years is going to pass you up.

Yes.

Because his educational level of being in prison with those inmates is so much uh it more advanced when it comes to street crimes and things of that nature. So um I just have seen it, I've lived it myself, and and and that's a that's a a big thing. So I just kind of wanted to make sure we explain that to the individuals that are listening.

Um that that's as important to understand that we have a that program set up for a reason.

It sets such a strong foundation for when they are ready to come out to Uniform Patrol, they've already learned our community, learned communication skills that are paramount for uniform patrol. And it just helps them buy into the culture that's here at LPSO as well.

Yeah.

That's needed to have to continue to have the support of our community, you know.

It is. Yeah, so I started at the jail when I first got hired on. Um that's why I try to explain one to the parents whenever we're doing, you know, we're out and about talking to the kids about applying here, especially high schoolers. Um you're gaining, I I want to say street knowledge. Uh you're getting to meet the people that you're gonna deal with on the streets.

Um, yes, they're in jail. Yes, they did something. They're not all bad. That's how you have to treat them. You treat them like a human being, and they're gonna treat you once you get out and go onto the road in uniform patrol, they'll remember that. So it's extremely beneficial for us to do full circle.

Yeah, because when you're on a when you're in a situation and you hear somebody, you know, this was my this is my personal experience, uh, Mr. Jason. Well, first off, I was 22 years old and I didn't my kids, I didn't, I mean, I didn't have kids yet. Nobody called me Mr. Jason but an inmate.

Yeah.

Or Sarge. Yep. Nobody calls me Sarge but an inmate. And and that is very important. And when you're in a situation and you're on a a street corner or at a house and there's kind of some chaotic stuff going on, and you hear Mr. Jason or somebody saying that, or Sarge, you automatically go to okay, I know this guy, there's a rapport, and just what you said, Trey, they're gonna remember the type of person you are, and um and that's an opportunity to build trust in your community.

Um you know, yes, they were in incarcerated, there was an inmate, uh, but you don't know their their life story, you don't know that they are a human, you that they maybe, you know, had a it's just so many stories they could have had, recovery, whatever. That is important to understand that just what you said, that you don't know what situation you get caught in, and you're going to run into these individuals.

So your personality, your training level, the things that you learned at 10 center will come back and uh and benefit you if you know you you you do it the right way um greatly. Uh and whenever you get those individuals to give you information that's important in solving a crime and bringing justice and closure to a family, that's a home run.

Yep. Uh so it all starts there, you know. Uh and and moving on, you know, it's uh other agencies, one of you guys mentioned that. Uh I can't remember uh about we're we're steadily competing with the surrounding agencies. Uh and look, the hats off to them because we're all have to do it, we all have to recruit uh people, you know.

They need people, we need people, and it is a a constant battle of getting, you know, good qualified people here, and then all of a sudden they go over to the Louisiana State Police. You know, or they go over to another agency and it's uh, you know, they they feel like they're better in themselves or their family.

And you know, you me as a sheriff, I can't really get upset about that. Um I respect the fact that you're trying to, you know, help and do better for your family. Uh so here at the Sheriff's Office, we have to do, you know, better with our recruit recruiting and and benefit packages and and pay scale, which we are working on uh as as diligently as possible.

And uh we have um I think gave a lot of pay raises and things of that nature. Uh I know we have, and benefit packages and things like that. So um so um what other challenges you think that we have with with our um trying to get people here?

Maybe not with getting people here, um retaining them. Retaining them, yeah, that's another thing. But I think with the younger crowd, they're looking for specific things. They want the loyalty, they they want a career, but we need to do a better way uh have a better way of explaining to them what we can offer.

Um not just, hey, we you know, we offer these benefits, these health benefits and everything, but what can they get out of a career and living some parish? Right. Um what do we have to offer for moving from the detention center to uniform patrol to detect us? You know, we have narcotics, we have all kinds of different things.

Our IT division is growing. It's gonna grow even more over years because advancement in technology is gonna force us to grow. Right. So they need to understand with us the future's bright, but it's it's gonna take some time.

Yeah. You know, it's funny you brought that up. You hit to me, you hit the nail on the head because that is a a a big deal trying to make sure that they understand where we're going and where we came from.

Yes.

When I took over, we had um in the you had basically the detention center, you had uniform patrol detectives, and you could be lucky to get a supervisor spot, and then you had um um could be in administration. So it was very limited with your promotional opportunities, nothing against prior administration, that's you know, budgetary, and that's where we did then.

Then we brought in rank. We never had that until 2012. We brought rank here, and that has presented a lot of promotional opportunities, which was a big deal. Uh some of the guys have probably been here the last 10 to 15 years. Well, we'll just say the last five to ten years has probably not really had a true appreciation for that.

Not that they don't, but a true of knowing that we never had that, and now we do. Uh we didn't have a uh Burgleys last um theft division. We had a small narcotic division, now it's a large narcotic division. We didn't have a criminal patrol, which we had and it's coming back. Um we didn't have a traffic unit, which is fixing to come out.

We didn't have all those kind of things. Um FTO division, uh the training division has expanded. Uh we we have so much more today than we've had, but um they what else are we gonna have? Where else are we gonna grow? And uh that's big because you know, investigations were investigators, and now we have basically your investigators, we have a domestic violence unit.

Uh we already mentioned the burglary uh theft, we have um We got Marine Division, Marine Division, Motors, we we have so much um that we didn't have IT. You mentioned that earlier.

And on top of that, we have clerical, you can if you know, uh corehouse security, any anything. Pretty much we can offer a wider range of job positions. Yeah, and the drones.

Yeah, you know, the IT is gonna be great because you have the drones that are just now uh we've invested in those with our new camera systems and body cams. Right. The drones are gonna be a big thing, you know. So uh there's there is so much room to grow here, and we do have those opportunities, and it's uh you're right, like how do we get that information out, making sure they understand it and retain those deputies here that opportunity is coming.

Uh you just got to be patient with it, and it's uh that's not an overnight success sometimes.

No, I think that's an issue that the younger crowd has because they want that instant gratification so they think they can come over and go into the detective straight off the bat, but they can't. They have to start at a basics and work their way up. They have to show that their work ethic's good to be able to be be moved to that position.

And look, and I want to expound on what you just said. You're a hundred percent right, and you and I did exactly that. We were impatient, we wanted to get out of that detention center, we wanted to get on we did. Like I couldn't, I remember day after day, like, I hate this place, I hate this place, like when am I gonna get out of this daggone place?

It's three years I was in that place, and it felt like I was going through the hole, you know. And the I'm telling you, it did not hit me how important it was until I was on a scene with Alden Thomason. Everybody knows Alden. Uh Alden was my training officer, and they didn't know who he was, but they knew who I was.

And they didn't want to talk to him, they wanted to talk to me. Yep. And then next thing you know, I got narcotic, I have uh narcotic people calling me. Hey, sheriff, come over here. I want you to look at the uh not sheriff, listen to me. Hey, you know sorry, but anyway, he just called me, come over here, I want you to look at this individual and see if you recognize him.

Yeah, I know who he is. I fed him three meals a day uh for the last three years. I knew criminals better than anybody else on that street. And you had a lot of guys that were in the jail with me, but they was only in the jail for probably, when I say in jail with me, they were in the jail working as a prison guard with me.

But they were um, you know, three months in and they're out. Six months in they're out. So they had a little bit of education, but I had three years worth of knowledge of every inmate that came in there. And I said earlier, 180 to 200. It's easy for you to keep up that number and keep up those names.

And I have very much a youth mind at the time. Youthful, youthful mind at the time, you know. So I'm able to keep up with all of that. And that's um it is important to be patient. And you're going to get your career started the moment you started here. So be patient and wait for the opportunity, but do not turn away from what you have in front of you.

And if you will focus on your job in hand, you will be exactly where Trey and Jamie is right now.

Yeah.

Within five to ten years. Because you work hard and you focus on the job in front of you and you get the attention of your administration. Like this guy shows up. This lady shows up, she does her work, she does it, you know. So that's in that's important for us to to do to do.

So Yeah, I definitely see that value in training uh every day, especially when we hire a lateral from an out an outside agency and then getting a jailer from that just graduated academy. There's a difference between the two. Not only has the the jailer learned the culture that we have here within our community and within our agency, it's they understand that value and it that can they carry that onto the street.

When a lateral, we have to take a lot more time teaching them and helping them buy into our culture, which we've already established that in our jailer. So there's so much value that comes with starting out of the jail.

It is, and it's uh but it's for so many, I I can tell you that, and y'all know this. Do I have to start at the jail? Uh you do, and it's important that you do that. Uh the individuals that have our seasoned, usually they don't. Um so but you know, moving on a little bit, you know, there's some other topics that we want to make sure that people understand.

We we are talking recruiting. I would like to get into some some benefits uh that we we offer 'cause we offer a lot of benefits here at Livingston Fair Sheriff's Office. If uh one of you wanna jump on that that topic. Um Okay.

I mean I don't wanna I mean I I know what they are too, but you know, I just Yeah, I know uh m mainly the public doesn't really know. Yeah. Um so we The sheriff does put together, we offer um health benefits that cover the entire family, uh, meaning husband, wife, and their kids, not grandma, grandpa, and all that.

But just husband, and it and it's it's a huge benefit for us because I mean if you look at where you're paying out of pocket, if you're at uh a plane or something, that's covered now from the sheriff's office. So it's a huge benefit, um, which that's what's something the younger kids, the younger generation needs to understand.

Yes, you're by yourself right now, it may not benefit you as much, but in the long run, when you decide to have kids or a family or wife, it's gonna benefit greatly for you. On top of that, we have uh vision um insurance along with dental insurance. Um we have our defer comp on that the office puts on for us, um, where sheriff's office puts in X amount of per a percentage from them that we match.

Um Yeah, we I mean it it's just basically a second retirement. Your deferred comp is a second retirement, and uh we we offer that. So, you know, you as you come here, that's something that's very important to sit down with uh with our financial advisors, which we also we supply those for free. Uh that's a big thing, is making sure that our employees that are coming in have someone to say, hey, you know, we we will help you if you're in debt or you need to get out of debt.

But more importantly, is these young individuals that are coming here that's never really had a job in a way of making money and having now car notes and stuff like that to sit down with someone as you start out to know how to um manage your money and not get yourself in a situation. So that's a benefit, and we that's for free.

I mean, you we have a financial advisor, you can call at any time, make appointments, tell you how to invest your money. Um so you know, you basically hit on all the topics, Trey, of of of the benefits we have. Um another big benefit here is uh we are a family at this at this office. We we we really do, and I use that term a lot, welcome to the family.

Uh we're not a mafia family, we're just a family. We're family in law enforcement, we try to take care of each other. We don't try, we do.

Yeah.

And um, you know, it's one of them things that uh we we pride ourselves on having that family atmosphere here and and creating a culture of that and uh taking care of one another and the loyalty to each other, the friendships and the memories and the things, and uh there's not a person at this office that won't do everything they can to go and back somebody up to be there for each other.

We've seen it, you know, we've had deputies get cancer or lose loved ones, and you know, this just we surround them and um they've surrounded me before. You know, so you know having a family atmosphere is a big thing.

You know, uh d I've been to different departments and agencies and stuff, going through training and spoke to a lot of officers and and deputies, and this is one department that basically holds an open door policy. There's not many departments that can say that we can go to the sheriff's office whenever he's here and he's not busy uh and just go talk to him, just hold a regular conversation with you uh about anything.

There's honestly, there's no sheriff that I know that does that. Um talking to, I'm not gonna put any departments out there, but talking to those agencies that I've been around half of them hadn't seen the sheriff or their administration in years. It's more secluded. We're family oriented. Our department is Christian based.

Um on Wednesdays every first of the month, we do a prayer breakfast. Everybody can come eat breakfast. Um, usually a pastor or speaker's there to preach. Uh so it it's a it's a great experience uh if anybody wants to come up here. Um and that's open to the public. Retired uh law enforcement is definitely welcome.

We like to see everybody here. Yeah.

Um adding to what you said about the open door policy. I actually recently spoke to a female um at a training event that I went to that's actually been in her agency for 10 years and is 10 years and has never met her sheriff. And that just floored me to hear her say that, you know, because here, I mean, any new hire that comes through our doors, I immediately schedule a meet and greet with you at your request.

You know, you want to, you know, see and talk to every single person that's hired here, and that just speaks volumes.

And look, and I'm gonna be on there's there's times we get real busy. I've actually ran an employees and it's like I've never met you before, and he's been here a couple of years at detention center or whatever, and I'm like, Why have not met you?

Yeah, right.

And it it could be just because of the little lack of communication or somebody dropped a ball, whatever, but I do try to do the best I can to have that open door and and make myself available for the new hires and any deputy. And uh it gets difficult when you get that number even over 200, but we're now over 400.

And uh so it does get difficult, but I try to make myself available with my administration to make themselves available uh to be there to take those phone calls. And if you are listening, you're in leadership anywhere, it looks just very important, not only to talk to the people that maybe work directly under you, but it's also making sure you talk to the people that are at the bottom of the the totem pole because there's always gonna be a communication breakdown between uh your new employees and you.

Right. It's just there. It's it's it's it is. So opening your door, having a communication is very important. I think that people know what I expect out of my mouth, not out of Trey's, not out of Jamie's, no I think just you need to hear it from me, what I expect, what my culture is, what what I want for this office, and uh what our community expects.

And I I think that has gone a long way for us.

Well, that that being said, like with me, I try to go to the jail or detention center at least once a week to sp just to say hey to all of them, tell them I appreciate it I I I don't forget where I came from. Right. Plus, I know that those guys are wanting to be where I'm at. And I'm I'm just building a friendship with them.

So because they're eventually gonna come to the uniform patrol and work, and it could be underneath me. So I want them to understand how I operate, how I am, what I expect as well.

So it's just building a relationship with them as and when you're in the detention center, you like even we were. I mean, you remember that. Like when a deputy walked in, and it was just like a big deal to me.

Yeah.

To uh be able to just have a conversation with uh these deputies. And I still remember all their names, not gonna hang them out because they were a lot older than me. But it but again when they walked in, I just you just wanted to have a conversation with them. You wanted to know what they had going on out because you felt like you're in the detention center closed in and you can't watch TV and uh real world.

Yeah, right. You want to hear all the cool stories that's going on on the street out there, and uh so to be able to have those conversations, so I commend you for doing that. Um I know it means a lot to them to listen and and just to be able to see your your your presence in there, and that means a lot to them.

Yeah, and going back to the culture and the the family that we have here at LPSO, it that starts in the hiring process. You know, they start to see that the moment you submit an application online. It's such an easy process to fill that out. And you're contacted by someone with, you know, our hired administration and we walk you through every single step.

You know, you have someone that guides you through the entire process. Um, and I just think that that kind of helps them kind of see what we're about, that we're a team and it's a team effort.

And we do we do uh try to put things out on social media. Uh that's kind of a big recruiting tool for us is our social media. And uh and I know uh Trey, you have maybe recently kind of went to some job fairs or something.

Yes, sir.

And uh so we try to do that as well. Um anything we can do to reach out, and the hiring process is pretty simple. You know, Jamie said it, just call the sheriff's office. You we go online, you can apply online, uh, we filter through those. Uh the applications is say, hey, I'm just looking for a job. There there is a lot of opportunities here.

Uh if you come, if you send an application and say, I just want to work on the you know on the road and be a patrol officer or detective, uh, it's less likely to get hired because we may not have a position then, uh, but we have plenty of other positions, so we like for you to just um apply. Come here, let me show you what we have to offer you.

Uh it's a pretty simple process. Uh, we do require a polygraph, we do require an extensive background check. Uh there's a lot of things that is is required of you, and um some interviews will will happen, and uh we do have physical fitness requirements. Um it's nothing that you uh can't accomplish, uh, but it's very important that in this job that you're able to physically not only take care of yourself, but have to physically handle someone else.

So we have to put you through those tests to make sure you can do that. Um, you know, we're not gonna give you a badge, a gun, and a car that goes 120 miles an hour and the ability to actually make a life-changing decision within a split second without making sure you are capable of doing that. Um so we have some extensive things you have to do to r you know, the requirements basically, and uh uh but I think it's set up pretty good and uh they're gonna like Jamie said, they're gonna walk you we're gonna walk you through the process.

Yeah. Uh I like one of the things that we do now with our hiring process is we do the movement screen.

Um so it's Well, I'm glad you brought that up. I didn't I forgot about that, yeah.

Yeah, so get not we not only just care about your future, but um where you start, but also how you end this career. You know, we do it with even our um current deputies. We'll do movement screens with them once a year to kind of see where you're at with your mobility. You know, we we have injuries in this career.

I mean it happens. Yeah. You know, so what can I do to to help you get back to where you were, you know, years ago. So if you come to us with an ailment, you know, we can help you recover from that to where you can meet the PT standards that we have here at the office. So you know, we help you also in that.

So that's we have a lot of individuals with a lot of um background when it comes to physical fitness and uh we have farms and drivers, I mean we have the uh everything. And uh so very proud of that. And uh so uh Trey, we're gonna kind of wrap it up, but I want to ask you a question. So if we have a young man or woman that's uh listening right now, what would you uh what would you tell them if they're thinking about coming into law enforcement?

I would say that this career is probably the only career that you have an opportunity to change someone's life. Yes. Um it's a profession built on service, leadership, and purpose. You have uh if you're looking for a career that challenges you in every day, this is probably the career that you're looking for.

100%.

Yeah. And you know, one of the things that I I there isn't really much to add to that is it but if if you wanting to get in law enforcement, we want you. We will give you good guidance and direction. Um recruitment is a a difficult task for us, but at the end of the day, it's just trying to get the message out to show you what we have, and we have a lot to offer.

Um our pay scale here is pretty reasonable. Um, you know, so you can actually come here and um and start out at a decent pay. And we uh we post a little bit of that stuff online, um, but we give it it to to say I start you out at 40,000 a year, I don't really know what I'm gonna start you out at, but you can start out at up to fifty thousand a year depending on your background.

If you we give you credit for military, uh we give you credit for um degrees, college degrees, we give you experience credit. So depending on where what profession you may have came from. It may not just be law enforcement, it may be something in um we've had people come over here from the fire fire and EMS services.

I mean that's they have they have experience. So once we get you in, talk to you, we kind of see what your experience is, we can we can base that salary off of that. Um again, great benefits here. We like you to be 2021, the perfect age, but look, we will look at you at 18 years old, so apply. Um come in, interview, and uh we'll see what your maturity level is, what your uh uh what your capabilities are, and you don't know what we have, and and we we have so many different positions uh here that you can work in.

And and let's not forget our dispatchers. I mean, we are always looking for dispatchers. That is the heart of this operation. Absolutely sometimes go unnoticed, but they are the ones that they are the single individuals that basically keep us taking 24-7.

They are our lifeline.

They are our lifeline and they make things happen, and so we need good um some more uh good dispatchers, and uh so that's important. And then we don't have an age limit. It's a lot about your capabilities. So if you know you're 40 years old and maybe just retire from military, think about you know starting a second career, hey, come see us.

Yes.

I mean, we're looking for uh everyone. If you want to be a part of this, we won't know uh you just call, reach out, and we will answer those questions. Uh stop, you know, stop a deputy. If you see some, you know, most of them can pretty much tell you um the information is needed or put you in contact with somebody that is uh that that can answer your questions.

So that that's very important that that we do that. So any last thoughts from either one of you as we uh kind of wrap this up a little bit?

I definitely want to talk to the ladies. Um for any lady that's been hesitant to get into law enforcement, you know, because it is a a male-dominated field, um, just do it. You won't regret it. Um it's it's a very rewarding and honorable career, and you will have the support of everyone at this office.

Yeah, and you know, for me and and and my I guess leadership position and having females that work for me is very important if I want efficiency in my office to put y'all in certain positions. No offense, Trey. Uh the females tend to have a uh a lot more uh efficiency in their in their work ethic uh than some of the guys do, but y'all have a big, big role here uh in this agency.

You have a big role in law enforcement, period. Um, but this agency is bit really big on it, so we uh appreciate you bringing that up.

So with me, I would say just come see us, see what we have to offer. Yeah. If you see a deputy on side uh, you know, in a store on the side of the road, not during a crash or accident or anything, but if you see somebody walking around, stop them, talk to them about you know, opportunities that you can have with us.

I mean, it's it's so many that we have, and something may pique your interest and that apply to us and we'll walk you through the whole process.

Yeah. And look, you know, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of finish this up here and and tell you my kind of my last thoughts is if you are really considering getting into law enforcement, give the Livingston Parish Sheriff's Office a chance. Uh you will see that we have a lot to offer. Uh we have a lot of great um agencies.

Uh I have some really good uh sheriff friends. Um uh I say I'm friends with all 64 sheriffs in the state of Louisiana and beyond that. And uh it's a lot of opportunities out there, no matter where you're from. If you're anywhere as close to us or you're thinking about moving, we will offer you a great career here, a great family atmosphere, great benefits.

We uh we pride ourselves uh in getting up every day and serve and protecting our community. Uh and it says so on our badges. We don't say protect and serve, we serve and protect because we believe community comes first. Service is one of those things that we sometimes can forget about, but if you serve in the correct way, protection comes easy.

Yeah.

And uh so with that, if uh again, reach out to us at Lives and Parish Sheriff's Office. We're always looking to give out those opportunities if you're looking for one. Uh Trey, Jamie, thank you guys for being here and uh being a part of the show, and uh hopefully that we may have uh at reach at least reached one person.

Yeah.

Um then I'll give you credit for it, Trey. So no, but no, thank you. I know both of you guys are busy. We have a busy schedule, but thank you for being here. And that'll kind of wrap up the show today at behind the scenes with Sheriff Jason Hard. And uh, if you like what you listen to, please let us know.

Uh listen to us, follow us on social media. If you hadn't downloaded our app, please do so. Uh we push out a lot of information on that as well. And here in Livingston Parish, as always, we love our schools, we love our churches, and we absolutely believe in the Second Amendment.

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