Donisha | Betrayal Weekly

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0:27 I cannot have this. I have worked very hard to have a life of peace and we have a child. Now. I cannot have us Marshalls knocking on my door asking me where you are.

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1:38 Growing up, Denisha Quiller was used to chaos. She was one of seven kids.

1:43 I have a brother, a sister, a half brother, and then my mom adopted three of her nieces.

1:51 They lived in a two bedroom house in Long Beach, California.

1:54 Eight people. It was very chaotic, a lot of fighting for attentions.

2:00 I had a good relationship with her father, but he was in and out of the house when she was growing up. As the primary caregiver, her mom held everything together. With seven kids, it was an exhausting job.

2:12 She was super mom. She was stressed out and it wasn't easy.

2:16 When the house got too loud, Denisia escaped into her bedroom and watched her favorite TV shows. She practically had the TV guide memorized.

2:24 I'm an eighties kid, so it was full house and perfect strangers.

2:31 Denisia's mom ran a tight ship, especially when it came to dating.

2:36 My mom was antiboys, anti dating. She would tell me constantly that you don't trust men, you don't rely on men.

2:46 On Sundays, Denisha's family attended church. They were Pentecostal and that came with its own expectations.

2:54 There were so many rules. Sex was on the top of the list. If you did that, you were just done.

3:00 For Denisha followed all of the rules very carefully. There were certain movies she couldn't watch, certain clothes she wasn't allowed to wear, so she had to find creative ways to express herself.

3:13 I got extensions and they were always rainbow colored, and that was exciting. It was pretty much the only thing my mom would allow.

3:22 In high school, Denisha made a plan for her future.

3:26 I thought that immediately after high school, I would go to college, find my husband, buy a house, have a couple kids, and then be a career woman.

3:36 After graduating, Denisia enrolled at Biola University, an evangelical Christian university in southeast LA. She graduated with a degree in communication disorders.

3:48 I was really looking forward to doing either speech therapy or some sort of work with the deaf community.

3:55 After college. She was eager to start her life. She couldn't wait to get a job, get married, and start a family.

4:02 I was like, doors are going to open, right, this is obvious.

4:07 She started applying to jobs and speech therapy, but she was rejected again and again. It was discouraging.

4:14 I had a chip on my shoulder because I had a degree.

4:17 And that wasn't the only thing that wasn't going to plan. Denisia struggled to find a romantic partner. She put herself out there and went on dates, but she didn't meet anyone she genuinely connected with.

4:31 I was miserable. This was not what I signed up for.

4:36 Her childhood in the church hadn't prepared her for this disappointment.

4:40 I was doing everything right. I left God, I talked to God, I read the Bible. I thought, why am I not getting my husband.

4:48 She'd always believed that there was a formula to a fulfilling life, but now that she was an adult, she began to see.

4:55 The formula doesn't exist. Everybody's on their own journey.

5:00 She had to start figuring out what she truly wanted when she wasn't trying to follow other people's rules. So she decided to go back to school for accounting.

5:10 I love accounting. I am very virgo, and I want the receipts. I want to know the proof.

5:17 Denisha worked hard and excelled at school. After getting her graduate certificate in accounting. She quickly found a job. She'd been ambitious her whole life, but in her twenties, she found a way to channel her hard work towards schools that genuinely excited and challenged her. She was finally living life on her own terms. She started saving up money and bought her first condo.

5:41 By her thirties, I was feeling like the badass bitch like I have doing this life stuff well.

5:48 Going back to school for accounting, she'd established a serious relationship. She and her boyfriend had been together for years, but as she excelled, she noticed he wasn't growing with her.

6:01 This man was just kind of bumming. He was a very nice man, but he was not motivated, and it was bumming me out.

6:10 She wanted a life partner who was as ambitious as she was, someone who she could rely on, who she could trust enough to build a family with.

6:19 I had enough, and I said, you have to go. You have to go, and so he went, and I felt like this weight off my shoulders.

6:29 After the breakup, Denisha decided to live on her own. She was surprised at how much she loved her newfound independence.

6:37 I smoothly walked into having my own place, in my own space, in peace of mind. I started working out, I had a personal trainer. I had people over when I wanted half people over. So I had a jet tub in my condo. My favorite thing to do was get a glass of wine and some snacks, go take a nice hot bath.

6:58 As she got into her late thirties, she knew the window to have kids was closing. She started considering the idea of pursuing motherhood on her own.

7:08 I had the career, I had a home, so this kid would not miss out on anything. But ideally, ideally, I would love a great partner.

7:18 So she decided to give dating one more shot. After her last breakup, she had a clear picture of what she wanted in a romantic partner.

7:27 I desired somebody who really took responsibility for his family and led his family.

7:33 Denisha made a profile on a dating app called.

7:36 Wu It's an app for people who love to date bigger people, mainly men and bigger women. I was a thick girl and proud of it.

7:48 After a few days, she matched with a man who stood out from the rest. His name was Lorenzo.

7:55 His pictures were just everything. He was super sexy.

8:00 They messaged back and forth a bit. At first, it was casual.

8:04 We rarely talked about the times that we did, it was a fruitful conversation. I really liked him.

8:10 Lorenzo wasn't pushy or overbearing. If anything, he was more reserved. He had a military background.

8:17 I just remember being impressed with him and really wanting to crack this nut, but like he would not open up as much as I wanted him to.

8:25 Denisha was hoping that Lorenzo would ask her out. He hadn't been forthcoming about what he wanted yet. In the meantime, Denisha went on dates with other guys she met on WU, but none of the men she was meeting impressed her.

8:41 One night, I had a date with a man named Richard. He was okay, he was not a bad guy, but it was just not for me. And I got home and I was really not stealing well about that. Like this keeps happening. I keep meeting okay man, but I'm not meeting the man.

8:59 Was starting to lose hope that the man of her dreams was out there, But in that exact moment her phone.

9:05 Rang, Lorenzo called and said, I have some time off of work. Do you want to meet. I was still in my outfit from the date prior that evening, and I absolutely wanted to meet.

9:19 I could not wait, even though it was late at night. They made plans to meet up for their first date.

9:25 We found a bar called The Stash on Fourth Street in Long Beach and they had seating outside.

9:31 When she got there, she locked eyes with Lorenzo.

9:36 He was beautiful to look at six', four just towered over, me big, guy dressed to the, nine smelled so.

9:44 Good they made their way to the bars outside.

9:47 Patio he pulled my chair, out such a. Gentleman we talked about our upbringing and our goals and our careers.

9:57 On other, dates making CONVERSATION i felt like pulling, teeth but talking To lorenzo was.

10:03 Effortless and then we got on the conversation of do you want? Kids he didn't have. KIDS i didn't have, kids AND i, Said i'm willing IF i find the right.

10:13 Person lorenzo said he'd always wanted to be a. Dad this Made denisha lean. In usually the guys she met either already had kids or weren't interested in starting a. Family When denisha looked at her, watch she was surprised to see that hours had gone.

10:31 BY i told him it was getting kind of, late and one walked me to my, car made SURE i was on the inside of the, sidewalk which was so.

10:40 Sweet standing on the sidewalk next To denisha's, Car lorenzo leaned in to kiss.

10:46 Her it was the best kiss That i've ever had in my. Life it was just.

10:50 Amazing lorenzo didn't walk away until he was Sure denisha was safely on her way.

10:56 Home we watched AS i burged onto the main, street made SURE i got home by a. TEXT i got home with a smile from ear to. EAR i was, cautious but so. Excited it was a great, night the best Date i've ever.

11:11 Had this was the kind of guy she'd been waiting. For when she woke up the next, morning a text From lorenzo greeted.

11:19 Her he had left me a text message and dedicated a song to. Me it made me smile and get butterflies in my.

11:28 Stomach their second date followed soon, after and then their.

11:32 Third we were joined at the hip since our first.

11:36 Date soon they made their relationship. Official denisha's knowledge Of lorenzo's life grew from a few bullet points on his dating profile to the full.

11:46 Story he grew up In Puerto rico for the first portion of his. Life his mom was still. There he had been in the military for most of his. Life he had enlisted right after high. School he started in The army and then matriculated Into, marines and then he went all the way up the ranks to.

12:07 Colonel he Showed denisia some of his old, uniforms decked out with military pins and. Accolades he shared stories from his years in the. Service he Told denisia about the time he stepped on a homemade bomb while on.

12:20 Deployment it really destroyed his body and then was put back together In, germany like titanium and.

12:27 Everything he'd since retired from active military, service but he still worked for The department Of.

12:34 Defense he worked FOR.

12:36 DCIS, dcis Or Defense Criminal Investigative, service investigates fraud and corruption within The department Of.

12:45 Defense he had a gun on him all the, time no matter where we, were he had a gun in his.

12:50 Badge after dating men who lacked, Direction lorenzo's passion for his work was a breath of fresh.

12:57 AIR i was really impressed the, military the high profile government. Job it just was like a cherry on top of this sexy, man like he's on the right side of, things making sure our military is, safe AND i felt safe with. HIM i felt.

13:15 Protected as the time they spent together, grew so did their.

13:19 Feelings it didn't take long for us to be telling each other we loved each.

13:24 Other Soon lorenzo moved in With. Denisia they spent countless hours watching movies AND tv shows together and debriefing about the characters and themes of the.

13:34 Story, afterwards we would have long conversations and would morph into like philosophical, conversations and we would get deep into our religious, backgrounds and he also was deconstructing his.

13:47 Faith they could talk about. Anything when conflicts did, arise they worked through them together with patience and.

13:54 Care the disagreements we had were short and, sporadic and it was more of a. Conversation it s felt so. Adult it felt so good to just be able to express SOMETHING i didn't like or something that was bothering, me and we could just talk it.

14:12 Out the only thing they couldn't really talk about Was lorenzo's.

14:17 Job it was super. SECRET i couldn't know too. Much every once in a, while he'd give me a little bit of an inkling about a case that he was working, on but no, names no.

14:27 Details lorenzo worked long, hours and.

14:31 He would come home at like four o'clock in the, morning or he would be gone for a.

14:35 Week lorenzo Told danisha he had to travel often for.

14:39 Work me and my girlfriend called HIM fbi because we knew he was working for the federal government and some high profile, thing and SO i would call HIM fbi babe WHEN i was referring to.

14:51 Him When lorenzo was traveling for, work he always stayed in touch over.

14:56 Text he would just send me pictures of the plane he was going. On he would send me pictures of him in uniform going into a high profile meeting before he had to turn his phone in at.

15:09 Work lorenzo was fearless and With, denisia he was, caring, gentle and. Patient she felt at home by his. Side she'd been waiting for a love like this her whole.

15:20 Life And i've heard stories before that if you, know you, know AND i JUST i. KNEW i knew this was, HIM i knew this was my.

15:27 Guy they had only been dating for a couple of, months but she knew what she. Wanted denisha was in her late, thirties and she told him her priority was starting a.

15:38 Family, finally you, know and two grown up nerds were both almost in our, forties never, married no, Kids let's do this.

15:48 Together so they made the unconventional decision to prioritize starting a family as soon as.

15:54 Possible if it, happened in my, mind it would be just a. Blessing and then it. HAPPENED i was so elated she was.

16:03 Pregnant it felt like. Fate but she was nervous to Tell lorenzo now that being a dad wasn't just an idea but a. Reality what if he changed his.

16:13 MIND i told, him you don't have to. STAY i could do this on my, own and he, said absolutely. Not that was not even a question in his. Mind we're going to do this first time. Parents let's do.

16:24 This But dinisha had a lot of complications with her. PREGNANCY i had everything in the.

16:30 Book Because i'm, OLDER i was already high. Risk and then twelve week mark they did the diabetes, test had, diabetes had to go on a very strict. Diet around thirty four thirty five, WEEKS i started getting high blood. PRESSURES i had to test by blood pressure several times a. DAY i was going in for a non stress test two times a. Week it was a.

16:52 Lot lorenzo was by her side through.

16:55 Everything lorenzo was my. Anchor he came to most of the, appointments drove me. There he stayed with me the entire.

17:04 Time denisha Was lorenzo's top. Priority even when he got home from work at four in the, morning he got up two hours later to prepare her breakfast in.

17:15 Bed he really was focused on making me happy and making me. Comfortable lots of, massages lots of.

17:23 Love lorenzo started putting together the, nursery hanging up shelves and doing the physical labor so That denisha could. Rest watching him take care of her Gave denisha confidence that he would be a great.

17:36 Dad he was just so gentle with, me AND i was a. MESS i was crying all the, time and he made me feel happy and he got me in a better mood every. TIME i knew that he was going to be an amazing.

17:50 Father when their daughter was, Born lorenzo was right there by her, side.

17:57 And you got to cut her, cord and he was the first person she. Touched it was so, amazing and the nurses try to bring her to, me And i'm, like please give her to her a.

18:07 Dad it was a magical. Moment looking at her daughter In lorenzo's, Arms denisha was filled with pride for her.

18:15 FAMILY i could not BELIEVE i had my man and my. BABY i was just so.

18:19 Excited finally her fairy tale was coming to. Fruition When denisia became a, mom she was. Overjoyed Watching lorenzo care for her and their daughter felt like a dream come, true the type of love always wished. For they had a baby. Shower lorenzo's bomb and sister traveled in From Puerto rico to be.

19:07 THERE i got them gifts AND i thanked them for coming to be with us and celebrate this new journey and how amazing it is that this is their first grandchild and, niece and they were really.

19:18 Receptive because of the nature Of lorenzo's, job he didn't have paternity.

19:23 Leave he was only home for a. Week his job did not want him to be off for that. Long he demanded that. Week him having to go back to work was really. HARD i really wanted him.

19:35 There lorenzo worked a, lot but he still did everything he could to be a great. Dad when he wasn't, working he jumped in to Help.

19:43 Denisia he was helping me figure out lactation and. Breastfeeding he was always washing the baby, bottles and when baby was stressed out and wouldn't sleep and she's screaming and, screaming he would take.

19:56 Over one day In, august when their DAUGHTER i was three months, Old denisha And lorenzo were spending time. Together suddenly he turned to face. Her he looked, anxious out of.

20:09 Nowhere he just says that he had to tell me.

20:12 Something Then lorenzo dropped a, bombshell.

20:17 And he confessed that our baby was not his first. Baby he actually had three additional, children a twelve year, old a ten year, old and an eight year old with two other.

20:30 Women denisha was completely taken.

20:33 Aback to say THAT i was shocked is an. Understatement she was numb and.

20:41 Angry she left the house to get some, space.

20:44 And then WHEN i got, BACK i just begged him to tell me. Everything what do you mean you're not a first time? DAD i don't. Understand he said.

20:53 The kids were from two different relationships he'd had in his, twenties they didn't live in the, area and he wasn't involved in the kids'. Lives lorenzo tried to explain why he'd kept this From.

21:06 Denisia he said he didn't want me to. Leave he thought that IF i knew he had other, CHILDREN i would not be into him. Anymore and my response was that was my, Choice so you took that choice away from.

21:17 Me he explained that he'd never been given the opportunity to parent his older, kids so when he Met, denisha it felt like a fresh.

21:26 START i asked a, Lot please tell me, everything no more. Secrets we're in this. Together anything? Else are you? Married, like what is going? On what about these other? Women and he assured me nothing. Else there's nothing, Else there's nothing, else and he is, very very sorry that he did not tell me about these other.

21:44 Children the lies, stung But lorenzo seemed genuinely. Sorry he admitted that hiding this was a. Mistake he was apologetic and wasn't. DEFENSIVE i really wanted to let it. GO i kind of understood where he was coming, from why he would keep that from. Me she asked if she could meet his other, CHILDREN.

22:06 I would love. IT i would get. Stacks we would watch movies and he was really reluctant and he did not like that, idea and then told me that the other children's mothers would not be on, board that he rarely gets to see them, anyways and there was a lot of animosity between him and the other.

22:22 Mothers denisha believed. Him she was on maternity, leave busy with their, newborn and After lorenzo came, clean he showed his remorse with his actions doting On denisia and their.

22:34 Daughter we had a great time all through my maternity. Leave he was really, attentive even after this ball that he. Dropped we try to get past, it AND i thought it was.

22:45 Doable When lorenzo had to travel for, work he found creative ways to stay in.

22:51 Touch baby girl AND i would hang out in the living. Room we had the nanny cam right next to THE, tv and it was one of those nanny cams that you can patch through and talk.

23:00 Through lorenzo would log into the nanny cam so he could See denisha and his daughter and talk to them while they hung out at.

23:08 Home and it felt really, good, actually it was really. Sweet he was watching all the. Time you just pop in and. WATCH i would hear his voice and he's, Like daddy's, Girl daddy's here and talk to, baby and talk to. Me and it just was lovely to see that he was, connecting even though he had to be.

23:25 Away By thanksgiving of that, year their daughter was six months. Old denisha And lorenzo were in the car driving to her family's house For thanksgiving dinner When denisia saw that she had a miscall from an unknown.

23:38 Number there's a message from the. CALL i asked him to play it out loud As i'm, driving and it's this woman That i've never heard from or heard, of and she says she's looking for her, Husband.

23:51 Lorenzo denisha nearly swerved off the.

23:55 Road my heart, drops And i'm, like what is going? On just a couple months, ago you told me you had three, kids and now some stranger is calling my phone saying that she is looking for her. Husband what is?

24:07 Happening she Expected lorenzo to be panicked and, apologetic but he was. Unfazed he had an.

24:14 Explanation he assured, me that's my Ex she's. Crazy don't believe. Her please don't let this ruin. Everything we have something. GOOD i love you this is our. Family don't let her get in your.

24:25 Head but the whole time she was At thanksgiving, dinner the woman's words my Husband lorenzo echoed in her.

24:33 Mind but it was maybe girls First, thanksgiving SO i pretend it like everything was.

24:40 Great she put on a brave face around her. Family when they got home that, Night lorenzo tried to Reassure denisha that there was nothing going on with his. Ex he showed her the text messages between them to prove there was nothing to worry.

24:54 ABOUT i saw the text messages and it's it seemed, legit so it helped me kind of let it.

25:04 Go she was still, suspicious but she wanted to Believe. Lorenzo they had just started a family.

25:12 TOGETHER i was fighting for my little. FAMILY i thought for sure this was my, time And i'm fighting tooth and nail to keep it as much as.

25:20 Possible one, Night denisha And lorenzo were at home watching a show, together as they often.

25:26 Did Baby girl was in bed. Already it was late at. Night we were Watching, dexter and he pulled out a.

25:34 Ring lorenzo Asked denisha to marry. Him she said.

25:38 Yes we took a little happy picture and posted it on social, media AND i was engaged the next. DAY i squealed with my mom on the phone and all that. Stuff but to be, honest in the back of my, Mind i'm like something felt.

25:54 Off she had always imagined that getting engaged would be one of the happy moments of her, life but her happiness was laced with.

26:04 DOUBT i kept thinking about the other mother that called, me, like where is she in this, story in this. ENGAGEMENT i don't know, why BUT i could not get her out of my.

26:15 Mind lorenzo was passionate about his role as a federal, agent but as time went, on he wanted to start a side.

26:23 Venture he was really into, arbitration which is like the middleman when somebody has an argument with another.

26:32 Person lorenzo decided to open a consulting business where he would use his negotiation and conflict management skills to help clients navigate complex custody battles or divorce. Proceedings he Told denisha that his specialization within the federal government allowed him to be an. Arbitrator this wasn't her area of, expertise so she didn't think much of. It she offered to use her accounting skills to help get the business set.

26:59 UP i helped him draw out like a policy and how to get paid and all that.

27:04 Stuff Then lorenzo started taking on.

27:07 Clients his first case was a family here in Southern. California it was a child custody. Case the mom was not attentive to the child and the dad really wanted, custody but they were not seeing eye to, eye so he was going to see both sides and file.

27:25 Paperwork one, Day denisha was hanging out with some, friends which she got a call From. Lorenzo right, away she could tell something was off with. Him he seemed. Flustered he told, HER i.

27:39 Have to tell you what happened. Today please don't be. Mad AND i was, like. Okay what.

27:44 Happened there had been an explosive dispute and the child custody case he'd been working.

27:50 On the mom was supposed to drop the baby back off at dad's house and never did So lorenzo went with dad to go and look for the. Child he. Said they found mom and, child And lorenzo got out to get the, child and the mom fought him and he held her. Back authorities were called and the mom went to the. Hospital when the police.

28:14 Came they Arrested lorenzo and his, client the child's.

28:17 Father So lorenzo and the father went to, jail but he had failed himself.

28:22 Out he was calling her after posting. Bail denisha was stunned and.

28:28 Furious this was a client of, yours your first. Case why were you on the street looking for people and grabbing kids out of people's, Arms, like why would you do?

28:38 That lorenzo didn't have much to say in his own.

28:41 Defense he, SAID i just got, passionate you, know it was a. Mess he brushed off.

28:47 The altercation as merely a one. Off he did have one major, worry.

28:51 Though he said he was concerned because he did not reveal his arrest to his superior at, work and because he works FOR, sech a high profiled government. Job that could be a whole. Thing SO i was, like so then tell them.

29:06 To denisha reporting it seemed like the obvious thing to, do But lorenzo told her it wasn't that. EASY a little while after, That denisha was home alone with her, baby but she heard a commotion outside her front.

29:21 Door they are knocking at my neighbors right across from, me really, loud aggressive knock AND i hear whoever is asking For.

29:31 Larry the neighbors didn't. Answer denisha heard footsteps walking, away.

29:39 And suddenly the knock is on my. DOOR i opened the. Door these two men in street clothes are claiming to be THE Us marshals and they're looking For. LARRY i, EXPLAIN i don't know A, larry and they, said, well he goes By.

29:54 Lorenzo tanisha And lorenzo were making things, work raising their one year old daughter. Together lorenzo's work as an agent WITH dcis meant he was often away from. Home one, Day danisha was at home with their baby when she heard a knock at the. Door when she opened, it TWO Us marshals were standing on her front.

30:36 Porch and they're looking For. Larry AND i, EXPLAINED i don't know A.

30:40 Larry this didn't make. Sense surely the agents had the details mixed up and were at the wrong.

30:47 House and they, explain, well he goes By. Lorenzo sometimes my whole body is, HOT i feel like my stomach is.

30:55 Dropped then one of the marshals pulled out a photo of the man they were looking, for.

31:01 And they showed me a picture and it's the first THING i ever. Saw it's his dating profile. PICTURES i was, like, yeah that is my. Fiance they repeat that they're from THE Us marshals and he is. Wanted denisha's head was.

31:15 Spinning she needed more. Information what are you talking?

31:18 About what is this? About and they, said we can't really tell you, much but he is wanted for a weapons charge AND i, said, well that doesn't make. Sense he's an agent with our. Government he wears a badge and a.

31:31 Gun THE Us marshals asked If lorenzo was. Home denisia said he was, not but they told her they needed to come in and search the house. Themselves her heart was beating out of her.

31:44 Chest i've never been in, trouble not even a little. BIT i mean a couple of detentions in junior, high SO i don't know the law like. That SO i allowed one of them to. LOOK i asked them to be quiet because baby girl was.

31:57 Sleeping one of the marshals searched the house while the other Asked denisia questions About. Lorenzo when they were certain he wasn't hiding inside the, house they Gave denisiha their contact information and. Left denisha felt like the ground beneath her was shifting like she couldn't take a full.

32:15 Breath my mind is all over the, place totally, nervous in a. FOG i was so scared THAT i did something. WRONG i immediately Called, lorenzo.

32:26 But he already.

32:27 Knew he's, like, YEAH i saw it on the nanny.

32:30 Cam he had been watching THE Us marshall search their home through the nanny cam he set up in their living.

32:37 Room it was as if he were waiting for this to. Happen why what do you watch at that very? Moment why now he knew he knew.

32:47 Something as, Always lorenzo was calm and had an.

32:51 Explanation don't, worry, babe it's just a. Misunderstanding it's BECAUSE i didn't tell my boss about the.

32:57 Arrest To, denisha that explanation didn't seem to add. Up THE Us marshall said he was wanted for a weapons. Charge lorenzo's arrest had been months, ago and he never made any mention of a. Weapon, plus as part of his, job he was required to Carry none of this made.

33:17 SENSE i don't know why the government would be this mad about a stupid. Arrest you got in a fight like that's not a big.

33:23 Deal lorenzo assured her that he had everything under.

33:27 Control this is nothing and he will fix. It don't. Worry i'm going to clean it.

33:33 Up, first there was a lieing about his, kids the secrecy around his. Job then there was his, arrest and now he was wanted BY Us.

33:43 MARSHALS i cannot have. THIS i have worked very hard to have a life of peace and we have a. Child NOW i cannot HAVE us marshals knocking on my door asking me where you, Are, like this is. Ridiculous what is?

33:59 Happening even Though lorenzo seemed calm on the, phone it became clear To denisha that he was hiding something because that day she waited for him to come, home but he never, did not that day or the next, day and he wasn't answering her. Calls that's when she realized.

34:20 He was essentially on the, run trying to avoid THE Us, marshals try to avoid. ARREST i had no. INFORMATION i didn't know where he. WAS i didn't know what was. Happening nothing felt.

34:30 Normal lorenzo called her a few. Times he Telled denisha he was, safe he was still sorting it all. Out she kept urging him to just be honest and turn himself.

34:41 IN i don't understand why people are looking for you and why it would be so hard for you to just go ahead and tell your, boss get your, punishment and get it over.

34:50 With as the days turned into, weeks she clung onto the idea that he could fix it and come home to their, daughter but his absence Meant denisha was suddenly responsible for running the.

35:01 HOUSEHOLD i hadn't seen. Him he is not helping me take care of the. Baby he is not financially there. Either i'm doing this all by.

35:11 Myself the Longer lorenzo was on the, run the More denisia questioned the stories he'd been telling.

35:17 Her it was a balance of really, scared, angry and missing him all at the same. TIME i was so anxious and my neck. HURT i was so.

35:31 Tense lorenzo had been gone for nearly a. Month denisha was in.

35:38 DENIAL i have a baby with, him AND i love him so. MUCH i didn't need. PERFECTION i just wanted my family. Together even if it's fake, peace it's peace THAT i could pretend like nothing else is.

35:50 Wrong when she didn't hear from, him she started checking online googling his name to see if there was any. News that's how she saw the.

35:59 Picture they actually posted On. Twitter it's just so weird to, me BUT i see my big strong man with.

36:07 Handcuffs lorenzo had been.

36:10 Arrested they found, him THE Us marshalls found. HIM i don't know where they found. HIM i always try to look at the. Background it looks like a, house maybe a parking. Garage but, yeah they got.

36:21 Him But denisia still didn't know what Exactly lorenzo had.

36:25 Done all of those arrests are public, records SO i was able to look everything. Up and his charges were child, endangerment false, imprisonment, conspiracy, violence impersonating a peace. Officer all of them are, horrible but the one that really stood out to me was impersonating a peace.

36:44 Officer peace officer is a blanket term to describe law enforcement. Officers it includes the, police, sheriffs and special. Agents seeing that charge was the first Time denisha Realized lorenzo wasn't who he said he.

36:59 Was he was not an agent with the. Government all of that's made. Up and because he's not an agent with the, government he's in, big big trouble because he's pretending that made more sense to me than just the stupid.

37:15 Fight there were no further details in the arrest. Record what did they mean by child endangerment and false? Imprisonment in the, moment all she knew for sure was that he'd been lying to, her and seeing his, charges she knew that his lies were serious.

37:32 Criminal, EMOTIONALLY i was a. MESS i was embarrassed and.

37:37 Shocked she struggled to accept that this was really. Happening worst of all was accepting that the future they'd been planning together was.

37:46 Gone and this is after these fantasy conversations THAT i would have with him getting married and buying a house and like really living our lives out as a power. Couple all that went out the.

37:58 Window she was left to raise their daughter on her own While lorenzo sat in.

38:03 Jail i'm still going through with those partum and Then i'm working full, time trying to keep up with the bills and life and. Cleaning it's all on. Me it's all on. Me so because he's in, Prison i'm only able to talk to him and he calls.

38:17 Me the first time they talked on the, Phone lorenzo didn't have any. Answers he's stuck by his story that he was a federal agent and his arrest was all a big. Misunderstanding his perspective of the story of how he got arrested in the first place does not add.

38:33 Up so what is happening is? ALL i kept, thinking, like what is? Happening AM i ignoring?

38:38 Something then one Day denisha got a phone call while she was at. Work she recognized the caller id it Was lorenzo's, ex the woman who'd called On.

38:49 THANKSGIVING i answer and she comes in. Hot she comes in like who is this and she sounds like she's ready. FIGHT i, Say I'm lorenzo's. Fiance I'm lorenzo's.

39:01 Fiance but the truth Was denisha needed her. Help maybe this woman had the answers she.

39:08 Didn't she asked, her can you tell me what's going? On tell me your. Perspective she tells me he was never. Working every time he was not at my, house he was at her. House that he is sleeping around AND i need to get. Tested it's really.

39:24 Serious it turned out they weren't the only two. Women lorenzo had been in multiple relationships at the same, time and he made all of the women he was with believe they were the only. One but that wasn't even the worst of. It the woman on the phone said That lorenzo had gotten another woman pregnant around this same time That denisia had been pregnant with their. Daughter and this other woman apparently lived In denisha's, neighborhood.

39:54 And she said she lived just next door and has a baby around the same age as my.

39:59 Baby and this was on top of the three secret children he had before he Met. Denisia she recognized the pain in this woman's, voice and she believed Her lorenzo had deceived them. Both later that same, Day lorenzo Called denisia from. Prison she answered on the first, ring.

40:22 AND i let them have it for the first time since all of this has been going. On you're. TRASH i don't trust anything you're. Saying i'm going to get full. CUSTODY i don't want to ever see you. Again we're not getting over. This we're. Done AND i don't say things UNLESS i meet them AND i meant.

40:37 Them she hung up the.

40:39 PHONE i was sad That i'm losing WHAT i really, wanted but Also i'm in a space WHERE i cannot continue to pretend like everything's. Okay this is not, okay it's not.

40:51 Normal the man she loved felt more like a.

40:54 Phantom, now what CAN i say is even? Real did he love? Me why? Me why did you choose?

41:02 Me denisha kept in touch With lorenzo's. Mom one, day when they were out to, lunch his mom said something that exposed yet another.

41:10 LIE i asked his mom How Puerto rico was and she says that she's never been. There not only were they not, there but he was not born In Puerto, Rico so that was a. Lie he was born In La he was Named.

41:26 Larry Before lorenzo's, arrest she'd seen a copy of his birth certificate.

41:32 Which showed me that he was born In Puerto rico and his name Was. LORENZO i saw the birth, certificate it Said Puerto.

41:38 Rico but that document must have been.

41:41 Forged so who doctored this? Document that's so weird and why lie about?

41:48 That hearing this reveal Threw denisha. Off she was too flustered to ask his mom any follow up questions in the, moment but, later when she was, alone she realized she needed more. Answers she didn't even know Who lorenzo, was and she wanted to find.

42:06 Out NOW i Know larry is officially who he is and born In LA i was able to get deeper and look for more.

42:14 Receipts she scoured The internet for everything she could find About lorenzo Aka. Larry her search for the truth took. Years we want to walk you Through lorenzo's criminal, past combining What denisha and our team has found. Out his given name at birth Was Larry Cornell Diamond. Junior in, total he had six arrests and. Convictions we're going to detail a few of. Them it all started in two thousand In Los. Angeles larry was twenty two at the.

42:44 Time he and his Friend Robert hun showed up unannounced at a woman's. Apartment they knocked on her door and told her that they WERE fbi. Agents they said that they needed to search her. Home they were armed and she let them. In but they WEREN'T fbi. Agents they were bounty. Hunters The Los Angeles times reported on the.

43:05 Crime here's part of that reporting read by a voice.

43:08 Actor huon And diamond proclaimed to be affiliated with a non existent branch of THE. Fbi heon And diamond created a fake search warrant and claimed they WERE fbi agents when they made their way through a woman's sam pager apartment searching for stolen. Computers both men were wearing holstered semi automatic guns and silver badges that they claimed WERE fbi.

43:30 Badges that was the start of a, pattern an almost pathological scheme of impersonating authority LIKE, FBI, cia or police as means of. Extortion after he was, Released larry went right back to. It in two thousand and, three he walked into a hardware store where he intended to carry out his next. Crime The District attorney's office In Central california released a statement explaining what happened that. Day he'd had a voice actor read part of.

44:01 It diamond went to the hardware company dressed like a law enforcement. Officer he was wearing all, black displaying a, badge and claimed that he was AN fbi agent with The American. Consulate he then threatened to arrest the owner unless the owner paid ten thousand dollars directly To.

44:19 Diamond for that, offense he served a four year prison. Sentence this was so much darker Than denisia. Imagined lorenzo wasn't just lying about his. Identity he was threatening and exploiting innocent. People he would show up armed and in, disguise then demand money or. Valuables he abused authority he didn't even, have and he did that over and over again for his entire adult. Life lorenzo wasn't just unfaithful or.

44:54 Delusional he was. Dangerous In september of twenty, sixteen he legally changed his name To Lorenzo Sanchez. Diamond the very next, week he was arrested, again this time for possession of a. Firearm denisha poured over all of these.

45:11 Documents i'm reading the whole, thing and they catch him at The denny's in his military gear with guns in his, trunk and he gets.

45:20 Arrested none of his arrests or prison sentences deterred. Him each time he was, released he picked up where he left off and continued his impersonation Con even After denisha ended things With lorenzo and he was imprisoned for the sixth time in twenty twenty, three he would insist that he was always a federal. Agent at least that's what he Told, denisha but he asked her not to come to his sentencing. Hearing there he pled guilty to all the counts he was. Facing he was sentenced to another eighteen months in. Prison denisha thought that would be the end of the, story but While lorenzo was behind, bars she got a strange.

46:01 EMAIL i got a mysterious email from A Bubba. Walker never heard of this. Person they introduced themselves as A cia, agent and then there's A mp three voicemail in. It it was a computerized female. Voice the sender.

46:18 Claimed to be an employee at THE, cia Singing lorenzo's praises for his invaluable efforts in the Global war on. Terrorism they Said lorenzo was a good man with more intelligence than.

46:31 Most the recording just was Like Lorenzo sanchez is a great person and he's a great stand up, citizen and THAT i should trust, it and also said not to tell anybody about this message and to destroy the. Message AFTER i got, IT i told. Everybody my sister was, like, WELL i can say a lot of bad things about this man by people go through the ends of the earth to fake A cia call to get to believe his, Bullshit like this is so, stupid it was.

47:05 Laughable she no longer believed Anything lorenzo. Said after nine months behind, Bars lorenzo was released on good. Behavior even though things were over between, them she Let lorenzo FaceTime their daughter. Occasionally on one of those, Calls lorenzo said he had some grave.

47:24 News that's when he revealed he had. CANCER i thought it was another, tactic another, lie maybe to get my walls down, again to see if he can get back into my good. Graces so she told, him you're not invited in my home or my heart. Anymore if you're, SICK i help you still better.

47:44 Soon but the next time they had a video, Call denisha noticed that the room he was calling from was. Different he was in the, hospital and he Looked. Gaune he'd lied about so, much but this time he was telling the.

47:58 Truth he has stage four colon. Cancer he's very.

48:01 Sick lorenzo's health only declined from. There he went into. Hospice denisha decided to visit him and say.

48:09 Goodbye he looks really. Frail you could push him over with just the.

48:14 Breath seeing him at the end of his life brought up, overwhelming conflicting.

48:19 Emotions before all the things that went, wrong he showed me love like no one else had showed me before. THIS i felt, RESPECTED i felt loved and desired having him destroy my, life and now he was. Dying she walked over to his. BEDSIDE i was so. Sad it was so sad to. SEE i never wished this for. ANYONE i held his hand and told HIM i forgave, him and THAT i got, this AND i will take care of our, daughter and you can let. Go she left his.

48:58 Room in forty eight, Hours lorenzo passed. Away denisia reached out to us a few months. Later she's still processing the.

49:08 Loss it's unending, grief grieving the life THAT i THOUGHT i, had the, husband the, baby the, house all of those, things had it for so, little such a little. Time i'm grieving that all the. Time i'm grieving the single motherhood of it, all AND i a grieve for my.

49:31 Baby that grief is muddied by.

49:33 Confusion it's really hard to determine who this person.

49:38 Was lorenzo's obituary describes him as a, doctor, author, poet and rapper who loved macaroni and cheese and Watching. Jeopardy His LinkedIn profile describes him as a legal expert and human rights. Consultant lorenzo tried on so many disguises so many prestigious, career, doctor, lawyer federal. Agent denisia knows now he wasn't any of those. Things she's left wondering if anything he ever told her was.

50:10 REAL i still am not one hundred percent sure what the truth.

50:14 Is denisia has had to make peace with the confusion and Grief lorenzo left. Behind she hasn't been in contact with the other Women lorenzo deceived for her reaching out with reopen. Wounds she is trying to.

50:29 Heal my focus is on my baby and doing my job.

50:33 Well she has built an impressive.

50:36 Career i'm making six figures at a nonprofit as the accounting. Manager i'm so proud of me to be in this. ROLE i worked hard to get.

50:45 Here she's created a safe and loving home where her daughter gets to express herself. Authentically baby girl is.

50:53 Thriving she loves school and it's already time to enroll her in regular elementary. School and that's, emotional and she loves, dancing loves.

51:05 Ballet these, Days denisius used her own strength.

51:09 Clearly i'm resilient BECAUSE i struggle with depression, anxiety but this did not strike. ME i am still Going i'm still standing strong And i'm going to be.

51:19 Fine we end every weekly episode with the same, question why do you want to share your?

51:27 STORY i cycle through grief on a daily. BASIS i feel very lonely having experienced this and not having a lot of people that understand Where i'm, at that wore these same shoes and had the same. Thoughts SO i really wanted to find my, people tell other people they're not, alone and to just know that somebody knows What i'm going.

51:51 Through on the next episode of The Tray, Weekly.

52:02 You've got to arrest him BECAUSE i don't know where this is going to. End he's a, liar he's a, manipulator and he's an, abuser AND i don't think he'll stop unless he's made to.

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