I Just Can't Communicate With the Business. I've Tried Condescension AND Derision.

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This week's episode is hosted by me, David Spark, producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis (@csoandy), principal of Duha. Joining us is Gary Chan, CISO, SSM Health (ssmhealth.com). Be sure to check out Gary's security mentalism website: gschan2000.com.
In this episode:
• Decision-making with incomplete information
• Translation beats technical expertise
• Influence trumps authority for CISOs
• Technical prowess creates adversaries
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