
Club 520 - Jeff Teague on Karl-Anthony Towns & Jimmy Butler prior BEEF, Jalen Duren weight clause, Bronny James
Donnerstag, 1. Oktober 2026 · 1 h 12
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We’re back with Season 4, Episode 92 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen talk all things NBA training camp! Jeff and the fellas speak on Karl-Anthony Towns' father KAT Sr. CALLING OUT Jimmy Butler. Jeff played with both KAT and Jimmy on the Minnesota Timberwolves, and speaks on the beef the two had while playing there. Plus, hear the guys break down the latest update in the Jalen Duren contract negotiations saga, as the Detroit Pistons have apparently REMOVED the weight clause from his deal. And don't miss Teague and the fellas talk Bronny James and the Los Angeles Lakers, LeBron's role with the Philadelphia 76ers, a new OJ Simpson prank show, and so much more!
Timeline:0:00 - Song of the year & trap gospel8:00 - Ying Yang Twins10:30 - Birdman solo set, No Limit15:30 - 520's WWE update20:00 - Coach Pop and Bud's Ex Wide30:00 - Barbee's high school nickname34:00 - KAT Sr. calls out Jimmy Butler40:00 - Anthony Davis and KAT comparisons44:00 - Towns' pay cut on contract extension47:00 - Weight clause removed from Duren's contract54:00 - Beauty is Black show update58:30 - College football celebration, Stanford prison experiment01:00:00 - OJ Simpson prank show, new Jay-Z episodes01:04:30 - Who's getting blame on Philadelphia 76ers?01:06:00 - Bronny James at media day
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Tap in with the family. Shout out to Cal, she be here. We got to check the marketplace, man. Is the Kurt Franklin Grow Realer song going to be the song of the year, brother?
Yes.
On the way to be remixing a classic like that, bro. Kirk did his thing, man. They called him the DJ Khaled of gospel.
By far.
I think that's a little disrespectful to Kirk because he did a lot more for them songs.
He actually really peeing shit. He actually a musician for real.
DJ Khaled is the... They just mean like, yeah. Of hip hop.
They just mean like, I don't know. He don't never sing nothing. But I'm like, y'all don't understand his production is so important to this shit, bro.
Yeah, bro.
Especially when it comes to arrangements and stuff like that. Especially early Kirk, though. He used to get his shit off of them songs.
He did, he did, but people be forgetting that he write a lot of music, bro.
Come on, bro.
Even for other artists, too. So shout out to Kurt, though.
Trap gospel for sure, man. People are mad about that. They was like, you didn't bring this off in church. Yes.
That's because of the, you know, that's because of the shawty law on there. I'm like, I don't know why I didn't like Kurt. Don't listen to rap music. Like, he's still human, bro. Yeah, like, it's still, he's still human, bro. So, I don't know.
Yeah, man.
Listen, if your church been to Kirk Franklin Gorilla, I'm not mad at it. It's a banger for sure. You got to respect it. Friendship is definitely in there.
Oh, for sure.
And that's where I'm going.
He's talking about the Lord, though, bro. He ain't doing nothing crazy.
Nah, bro. He just took the beat.
And he's just trying to merge, like, I don't know, like, hip-hop. Not really trying to merge it, but trying to keep everybody in tune. Like, you ain't got to listen to church music this way.
Yeah.
You can actually vibe out and be cool.
He's trying to bring people who maybe not Got a relationship with God.
Yeah. You know, on that side, he's trying to bring them close together. Like, maybe you'll hear this and be like, dang.
Kirk want his music played in the club.
Well, it already is. I mean, it is, but... You know when you go to.
Some clubs, we done been to some clubs and they might ring off some pop music. Yeah. Miley Cyrus, they might ring off some... In Houston, for sure, they playing gospel music.
Yeah. Shout out to the Lord, but I am nothing on y'all playing the gospel set at 2 a.m., bro. But that's what it be sometimes, bro. Don't do that, bro. Even like.
Like your get-together. It don't mess up the vibes of that come on.
Nah, not at all. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Kurt.
But he didn't do other songs. He got a song with Lil Baby on the Space Jam. What, LeBron? Yeah, that LeBron shit. I never watched that. Nah, it's a song that I don't want to hear about. We win, yeah. We win. It's actually called, though. It's not a bad song at all.
Nah, shout out to Kirk, man.
Listen, Trap Gospel. I ain't mad at it, bro. The Sunday Service is fire. Y'all feel how you want it about Kanye? Him song is slap. I think more people should. Yeah, more people should. I think we'll get more young youth into the church a little bit. Yeah, bro.
I'm never wrong with exposure, bro. I stopped going to church because I used to hear... Jesus on the main line every weekend.
If they still doing that one, that's crazy.
In some churches, brother, that population, they slaps, bro.
Jesus on that main line. They're still saying Jesus on the main line in 2026. Yes, they are, bro. We're going to go to friendship.
It's a Baptist church right now that's spinning that. A selection from the choir.
Friendship. A selection. No lie.
Respect, though.
Okay, thank God with T.I. Young Draw. I got to tap in, man. Yeah, come on. Shout out to Kirk, man. Shout out to Kelchie as well, man. He's at Promo Club 520. Other music genres, though, so. We over 25 now. We get an extra 25 in the marketplace. Ultralight Beam being a gospel song? It is. And Father Stretch My Hands is a low-key gospel song. It's okay. Start rapping. Oh, no.
When we get to Kanye West, it does not look good. There's nothing gospel about that. But if you just been a kid cutting Beautiful Morning Park, you can choose this nature. They be fire. No.
Jesus Walks is a gospel song.
No, it is not. It is. No, it's not. DJ B.
Hayes.
Yes, it is, bro. Made that for the Lord, bro.
I made Jesus Walks. I'm never going to hell. Kanye's a go, bro. But that is a fire bar.
I am staying.
This is all I need. But you don't get to say that. I do say nigga. I'm over here. Nigga. I'm over here thinking, wait, why wasn't it? He go crazy. He go crazy. Yeah, for sure.
Shout out to Cash. Y'all are crazy, man. It's going down October 14th, man. How we're homecoming special guest John Wall. I'm excited for this, man. We got a lot to talk to John Wall about for sure, man. playoff beat for sure Young Prodigy yeah we got lots to discuss man get them tickets right now man shout out to Project 68 for bringing us out there it's going down we gonna be on campus too be here you going back to school one.
Time yeah and we going to Bison Madness man I wanna give away some tickets too bro Bison Madness is for a basketball team yes sir okay yeah we gonna be up in that thing so you know I mean with the talent looking like this.
Is it at what time is it it's like at midnight like everybody else that I don't know I don't think it's at midnight it's probably for about 8 o'clock yeah 8 o'clock we be there we be.
There For sure, man. Tap in, like we said. Send them food spots. We're going to pull up and see what's going on. It's ShopClubFox1. com. We'll get your merch, man. We got everybody here as usual. To my left, we got my dog, Bishop, be here and out the prayer leaves. How you doing, Nasty?
Cool, Nasty.
Let's get to it, baby.
Hey, I see the promo kicking up, man. What's going down, man? Pull up to Dallas, baby. Yeah, look. October 17th, man.
We at Gilly's. Huncho Amir. Yeah. My guy. Zillionaire, though. You know what I mean? It's going down, man.
Pull up.
Yeah, man.
It should be a good time, man. Hendrix Experience in Dallas, man. Get your tickets right now.
Pull up. It's going to be a vibe. Still to my right, my dog, young Nacho, young Teague. How you what? Cooling. Ready to go to D.C., ready to go to Dallas. And where are we going after that? Cleveland. You going to Cleveland.
Well, yeah, I'm going to Cleveland. But hopefully all of us go to Cleveland if we secure it.
We'll know tomorrow. So let's go up in the air. You're going to Cleveland. Initially, well, I'm going to Cleveland. Yeah, he's going to Cleveland. Congrats, man. I guess by the time I hear this episode, you'll know if we're going to Cleveland or not. Yeah, he going to Cleveland.
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For the refund, shag.
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Remember being on the phone with you the whole time and that was just for the journey.
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I ain't lie.
That's all good, man. It's going to be great. It's going to be a good, you know, it's our first senior class, right?
First senior class. Yeah, so it's going to be good, man. Shout out to my boy, Bob, man. Come on, transfer back. Come on, man. So you can ride this wave, girl.
We ain't playing no sports this year, so we will come and support Pike and all their endeavors.
Now, that's one thing everybody's talking about wins and losses, but how does that feel for y'all, man, especially with this senior class, to see them all grow up, first and foremost, as good as they was as young boys, now that, you know what I'm saying, damn near young men as well. But to see them advance in life, man, I know this guy feel rewarding for y'all, man, because y'all really be locked in with them kids.
Yeah, it's pretty dope, man.
See, like, even like our past seniors, but for this to be our first senior class, we was with them all four years.
It's pretty special, man. All of them doing really, really good things.
And they all got a huge opportunity to play college basketball at the next level.
I'm excited for them. Yeah, man. Back to now. Our first year winning six games with that crew.
That was a hell of a crew.
Boy.
We worked with the young guys. It's all good.
It's all them C's, man. We excited, man. Shout out to the Pike Red Devils, man. You know what's going down, man.
520 NIL. You know the vibes, man. Go support our community as usual, baby. All right, man. Let's get some drinks flowing, man. Barbie at work and she DNP again, man.
I'm back, baby.
Okay, with the new dress, as they say.
I see y'all got started without me. Y'all got that cut water on deck?
Come on, we got the cut dog for show. What'd you whip up today?
I made up the strawberry cucumber margaritas and I topped it with the cut water.
Okay.
It's real cocktails, perfectly mixed.
And you can drink them by themselves, put them on ice, or make up a cute little cocktail so I can keep my job.
Hey, come on. You know the vibes, man. Be him. When I was at the concert this weekend, you already know I tapped in with the Cut Dogs. I had a great one. I had a flavor I never had before. I'm jealous. T got the mango joint. I didn't know what that was hidden for. You rocking with it, bro? It ain't bad, man. It's my first time ever drinking anything out of a can. So, you know what I mean?
This is my first try. It's solid, though. Hey, man.
I'm rocking with the Cut Dogs, man. We was at the No Limit concert. You know what I'm saying? I was probably out of pocket for it. I did not care, bro. The vibes was high. I had to have me one of them cold joints for sure. Keep it going, man.
Shout out to Cut Dogs, man. One of my favorite beverages for sure.
Hey, speaking of the concert, I have never been at a concert where the hype man said, if you was born in the 70s, put your hands up.
Yeah.
That's where Cut started. Yes.
Boy, you got to think about it, though. When No Limit was popping in the 90s, they was already grown.
Yeah, they was 20-something. Yeah. The math adds up. Yeah, you do the math. P came out early, early 90s, really. Man, it was a vibe, though, in there. Me and DJ already said it. An underrated group that we need to put some more respect on are the Ying Yang Twins.
Oh, hey, also real shit. We have to respect the Ying Yang Twins catalog, bro. I know we made some jokes about the SeaWorld stuff.
Yeah. We heard about them. Hey, bro. They said what's fire. Fire. Did they not hear it on Boom? Yes. That is my favorite one. They opened up. They did every hit. They ain't spare none.
They got about a good six. Six or seven.
You've been disrespectful being here. They got a good 15. Bro, they had a team in December and they didn't have a weak song. They didn't have one weak song. I don't think they got weak songs, but it's like six or seven. I don't remember. No, no, no. Doll Shaker. Whisper Song Hilarious. Why You Twerk. Shake featuring Pitbull. Bad.
I don't remember that one.
I don't want to hate.
Yeah, bro.
Man, I'm telling you, every song they play, I would look at DJ Aries and I'm like, damn.
Damn. That's a legendary group. I'm like, damn. Me and DJ did the things. I'm like, damn, they got this song, too. They got this song, too. I was like, damn. That's what it was, DJ. Hey, now, the shorter one, I forgot, because there ain't no disrespect, but when he starts twerking on stage, bro, I started crying, bro. He was wild.
He was feeling them lyrics way too hard. He was like, hands on your knees twerking or just... Hands in the air. They got hands on my knees and my balls on my thighs. Oh, yeah. He don't. He was twerking. Now, respect to who does twerk. I ain't here to say you can't, but it was a little surprising.
Whoever did their song selection, yeah, it was literally like, if they only got eight songs, all eight locked in a row.
And they rang out, too. They do. They had a hell of an opening section. No Limit. No, we need to revisit the conversation. Shout out to No Limit, but be in the Birdman Master P Talks. It's got to end for me, bro. It's got to end for me, bro. It's going to be ended for him. It's got to end for me, bro. Brian Wills, bro.
Years ago, bro. He's a way better artist, bro.
Master P did a 50-minute set by himself. He don't have no... And he didn't have to do that. Yeah, but respectfully, I feel like he should have been out there with No Limit at first, but him from all his songs by himself. He was tired, so... Birdman don't got a Mr.
Ice Cream Man or nothing like that, but.
Yeah, Birdman can't do a whole set by himself.
Yes, he can, bro. Birdman can do 20 minutes, bro.
I said he was out there for an hour by himself.
But DJ said he don't know why.
All his songs was hits now. They all hits, but he was just like... And he only played one verse.
I'm like, damn. He got a lot of CDs or something. Oh, he do. Yeah, bro. Honestly, shout out to No Limit.
I heard me an X part, though.
Yeah, we're good to see her. She said, here, just be cancerous. Shout out to her. congratulations to her as well.
I feel like they should have been together because when Cash Money was together, bro, and they was just going across each other's songs, I don't know, the vibe.
Was just a little bit different for me. How did my boy Silk do? Oh, no. Like Silk did. I love Silk. Still off beat. Yeah, I'll pass.
The original G Herbo.
No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. First of all.
Barbie's just talking about, Barbie, no, we ain't disrespecting Herbo. She's just saying like the off beat shit. Still started that.
Yeah, bro.
He do Mr. Ice Cream Man, Mr. P?
Yeah, of course. Gotta do the slap. I'm a sure.
To see that many older black people go out and just, one, just enjoy themselves, bro.
That's the greatest night of my life, bro. Yeah, it was dancing for real. I seen him, bro.
I seen him on a beer bike when I was coming. I said, ah, it wasn't nothing but a 90s beat. It was all gang twins, though. I looked in the crowd one time to the left. The whole crowd was twerking. I'm like, bro, she's in the club.
She say she work. You got to think that was grown, bro. But I was just like, yeah, y'all 56.
Yeah, nigga, that was 24, nigga, doing that.
Yeah, bro, it was some ARP shaking in that joint. For sure.
The one girl was yelling in DJ's face the whole night. And she was so turned, bro.
She bad. No respect. I thought I told you. Why'd you play me in the face? Nah, she's just like, what's up, DJ? Nah. It's my mama, cuz. There was a lot of them in there.
If she weak, she weak.
She had a thick-ass mustache on her face.
Damn. I had the bone on these. At that point, it would have swayed another couple of ways. You would have had some answers.
You had a thick-ass mustache with that ponytail.
I wonder why she was trying to check DJ, though. I don't even think it was me. I just happened to be there. Now, it was some young ladies. I don't know if they were young or not, but they tried to finesse me and Jeff for our spot.
Yeah.
I ain't never had to do no Hollywood moves without some security. They have to go.
DJ and them don't like big girls around them.
They had to get them escorted out of the section. That was just in our area. Hey, we about to be here for a couple minutes. Y'all cool? I was like, how you just sit in front of us? No, no bullshit. This is our seat right here.
One, two, three.
They just come stand in front of our one, two, three. And we like, oh, excuse me. Like, yeah, we're going to stand here for a little bit. No, fuck you not. I'm going to stand here. Good luck. Hey, we made it funnier. Because, you know, Jeff, he used to be a PC. She's like, yeah, you look familiar, too. Oh, yeah, that's cool. He's like, I'm about to get shit in here. Barbra, I'm surprised you didn't go.
I wanted to.
I just got my new dreads, so I couldn't have been in there napping.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I would have looked like him.
I was like, he in the crowd. He did come in the crowd and get hyped up. Yeah, yeah. And that girl twerked on him. The one that got DJ face.
What?
I ain't gonna lie. That whole front. Y'all was right there. We were in the front row. Right in front of that barrier. It was wicked. They on concert, bro. They was going. Kenny Red was over there.
Then she got on stage, bro. Shout out to Master P, cameraman. I've never seen somebody work so hard.
The last thing you do, I don't know what cuz' name is, but he has to get a raise. He has to get a raise, bro. He was going so hard. He was sweating harder than the people's face, bro. He put in the camera, everybody's face. I said, I'm cool. We got it. It was one song. He put it in his face. He said, hey, bro. I'm so cool with this. He was doing his job, bro. It was safe.
You was good. Yeah, he wasn't doing no wrong. He was going so hard. I seen the footage, though, on Master P page. Wow. I seen it.
I was like, damn. DJ is on the page, too.
I seen you there. That's unfortunate. I wouldn't try to make the mixtape, bro. I wouldn't try to be there. Also, shout out to WWE, man. Listen, SmackDown was crazy.
Your boy Gunther had a triple threat match, bro, with Finn Balor and CM Punk.
Hey, Gunther really one of my favorite wrestlers, bro. He's a cold wrestler. He really be smacking the shit out of people, bro.
Shout out to my dog, Lil Reese, who was watching that cage match and he was really geek. I haven't been around a kid that watches wrestling in a long time since Carter.
Shout out to my boy, Carter. But to watch Reese be hype He like, ooh. I'm like, I remember this shit when I was little. Yeah, bro.
Like, he was a little familiar with it because he watched it before, bro. That little Yachty coming out there, bro. And then Trick Williams, Limit Pepper, Stepper, that match. My boy was locked in.
Yeah. Shout out to Yachty.
He came with Daffy McQuarrie. He said, I'm never washing my hand again. I said, boy, you been washing your hand. I said, boy, I got hand sanitizer in my pocket right now. You better not go home and not wash your damn hands. Oh, y'all have good season again, baby.
No, come on, baby. Chug a whole damn, baby. Chug. Yeah, boys. Down to the family for sure. Man, I was moving and growing. You met the concert?
Yeah, I was never going to that. I was giving my tickets to a homeless person.
I could have smashed you with.
Your sweat too, bro.
I was.
What?
No cap. No cash money. That's one of the weakest concerts you've been to. In the past 10 years, that's.
At the bottom of your list, bro.
No cap. Nah, it ain't. It is, bro. I ain't going to lie to you.
It was.
You did not have fun there, bro.
I had some fun watching OGs having a blast, bro. I've never stood up and rapped songs like that since Jay-Z. I rapped all of those Cash Money songs.
Yes.
Most of the No Limit songs. No Disrespective Fiend and all them. Y'all was a little, that wasn't really mine.
So basically, Cash Money is a better group than No Limit now.
I think it's an age thing, in my opinion, because for me, of course, Cash Money, I'm rolling with. Now, if you ask me, discographies, I'm still going to go with Cash Money.
But if I was that age or I was a little bit older, bro, I probably would feel the same way about No Limit, bro.
Yeah, because I seen my sister, and she was emotional about No Limit. When Fiend came out, you would have thought Jay-Z, she'd say, not my.
Nigga, Fiend.
Fiend was raw, though.
Yeah, bro. Fiend was raw. He was a good performer. Hey, still got the crowd praise. He was moving that stage, bro. Fiend is all, 100%. But yeah, the OGs in there, bro, like you said, the AARP, Bengay Crowd, bro, no limit for them, bro. That was top tier for them. I just liked watching them, for sure.
I'm glad you enjoyed that, bro.
Nah, man. Hell yeah. Good times, good vibes, for sure, man. All right, man.
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We ain't talking about just sports. We ain't going to pop culture, politics, whatever, man. How you feeling?
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Come on, man.
Mook, we ain't just talking about sports no more, man. We can get into the BET Awards. We can go see who got album of the year. College basketball coming up, man. We can bet on Kentucky, too, man.
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Listen, almost training camp, T. You ever feel like, damn, like, damn, I missed ball a little bit. I know you're retiring. I know you're moving on. You're at peace with it. But when you see everybody at training camp doing the same, like, damn, I wish I'd go tap in one time. Yeah, I ain't going to lie.
I don't know.
I think I was talking to Isaiah about that today, man. I was like, man, every time training camp coming around, bro, I get emotional a little bit. I miss it because it's like that's the funnest part of the league. Like, you get to come back with your teammates. If you've been on the same team for four or five years, y'all meeting back up, y'all talking about your families, who done got a kid, who done grew up, what happened.
And you're having a good vibe. You got some new teammates. You're trying to show them the way. But if you go to a new team, you're trying to prove yourself. I just miss that competitive factor. First couple days of practice would be so fun.
And the real grind.
Did you have more fun earlier or later in your years in the league?
I didn't appreciate it early. You know what I mean?
It was like, shit, man, we got training camp. Because I felt like I was going to be in the league for 25 years at that time.
But when you.
Start seeing that shit starting to go the other way, Like my last year when I went to camp with Boston, even though it was COVID, it was just like, I didn't have a feeling it was my last year, but I knew it was getting closer to my last. I might have a year or two, three, maybe. And I appreciated that camp a little more. Like I try to soak it all up for us.
For sure.
From the media aspect, that's like the funnest time of the year because that's really the only time you're going to have access to everybody, honestly, and before everybody get mad.
Because, you know, the season starts, you get wicked. You ain't playing well or you ain't getting enough playing time. People be disgruntled.
That's the only time people typically be like, chill, and they probably open for answers and stuff like that. One thing I did see that was interesting, though, I did see a training camp where a player talked about he locked in with the factor meals and I was like, damn, look at us being real athletes in the refrigerator with him, man.
We got the factor meals in here, too, but ain't none of us going to training camp, man. You come to the den.
Yeah.
You should have seen Mike today. I know he had some factory meals today. That boy was sick. He came to me. It's the hardest workout we ever did. And that shit was light. No.
That shit was light. We tried to get Barbie in there. She ain't showed up. Hey, Barbie, you DNP at the gym? What's going on?
I got it. What are you saying?
DNP, you not pulling up. You did not participate. Okay. Okay.
I need you see her you see her whispering nah police trying to bring it in but.
I'm like okay uh no I gotta tap in these back rows these arms I gotta pull.
Up What's been happening, though?
Why? You know what I'm saying, though? Like, why are we gay anyway?
What's up?
Bro, you can't ask me that. You see that smile? No, no, no. That's that Netflix and chill. Yeah, that heavy weight.
That's all them dates and stuff, catchy.
Yeah. All them crab boils. Yeah. That good steak.
That butter ain't digested in the crab boil bag.
Oh, that'd be so good. So good. Paul, I was talking about you the other day, boy. Hey, I do an actual crab boil. It was like 20 minutes away. I said, I need it. You ate it in your bed? I would never.
Niggas judged me and ordered a crab boil.
That's crazy. I ate it in my kitchen. You ate it in your bed, though? Yeah, that was a problem.
I said, I go to the kitchen, but I don't have nothing on.
Oh, yeah.
Naked eating it.
Yeah.
At the dining room table.
Yeah, that shit. All right.
What's your basketball shorts on? But I feel like if you're wearing, like, a bib with a crab boil, you childish, bro.
If you're wearing a bib with a crab boil and no shirt, you out of pocket. I be watching them crab boil videos on YouTube. What do them be about? Just how they make the crab boil. Not the person eating it. I thought he was eating it. Like when dude kicked it through the phone. Y'all ain't never seen him? Oh, yeah.
You can smell it through the phone on me. His team algorithm is spooked. Murder mysteries of crab boils.
I need a clip of Uncle Mookie with the big bone eating his crab boil. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that would be love. Who go crazy with a crab boil? He pulling out one thing. Slug it out the lid. My brother, man. Mookie going to eat a crab boil like a chicken wing. A lot of allegations out there. Allegations. Oh, my God. Oh, you know what I mean? Don't smut. Don't smut. He ain't going to do that.
He's just a demon with a crab boil.
Now, I know we're a little late, but did y'all see Coach Popovich get married to Bud, ex-wife?
Is that out of pocket? I seen that, man. What are you boys trying to defend, Pop?
Why y'all feel?
First, Barbara, let me ask you this. You always like to ask these questions on here, so we're here now. So say you break up with your husband or whatever, y'all divorce or whatever. I mean, her, Katina, and Kiki.
Whoever, one of your homies, if y'all divorce... Is it cool if one of your friends starts talking to him? Maybe it's five, six years later. Is that out of pocket?
Absolutely not. Not even if I die, is it okay for them to talk to me?
Why y'all holding on to people like you can't hold on to them?
You can find anybody else to date. You don't not got to date nothing.
When y'all in the same area like that all the time, y'all big. What kind of friendship?
I'm not feeling that.
Yeah, they divorced 16, 10 years ago and then they just recently got married.
You been plotting with your man.
I mean, listen, his wife died. Yeah. Who, who wife died? Nah, unfortunately. Nah, unfortunately. For sure. But, For him to go after his homie's ex-wife, is that a violation? Let me tell you some background stories. Okay.
They was teammates and all that. Coach and staff. Bud and Pop, coaching staff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that.
So he knew his wife and all that. You know, all that good shit. They grew up together, whatever you want to call it.
Bud leaves.
You know, he go to Atlanta. Shit don't work out with him and his wife in Atlanta. She still live in San Antonio. So you got to think. She was all around him and his wife. His wife passed. He ain't got nobody to lean on.
That's his friend. That was his wife's friend. They all was together.
A shoulder to cry on is a coochie to eat on.
There you go.
Because what?
Is he the only nigga in San Antonio? I mean, they hung out a lot. He was crying and she just accidentally went down and I mean, after five years, you cry long enough.
I don't think it's probably the other way around, the way Pop be moving. She probably went down on him. He one day probably got lost.
Sympathy coochie is a thing.
If I were to fuck around and hit his head or something.
That nigga Pop be dizzy as hell. I know Pop ain't eat no coochie. One thing Pop ain't doing is oral, for sure. it's out of pocket they always say shout out to Coach Pond they say he's out of pocket for this he's out of pocket it's okay he a legendary coach he wrong for this bro yeah yeah that's your understanding I mean cause Kid got a bull got kids with that like so maybe you know what I mean Bro, you... But they different, though. They might be like Uncle... Oh, but you know.
That's Daddy Oval now.
No, bro, I'm saying... Daddy Oval? You legit. It was a party, bro.
I slept in the house, you told my mom... I'm saying, think no bud. It'll be different if you didn't know bud. You know how bud, how close bud was to Pop, bro.
Yeah, they was close.
That's all I'm saying.
But it's probably like... Okay, now, damn, he probably don't give a fuck. He probably not. Yeah, he probably don't care.
When you get to an old age, you don't give a fuck.
His kids older. Yeah. I went to the club with his kids. So they old. They probably don't get shit. I just don't know what Papa was. I don't know. They probably were just real life friends. Like all their kids probably damn near out the house. She probably had no bite in San Antonio. He went through what he did.
He had the stroke and all that shit. She probably was really just helping him out. They probably fell in love. We can definitely happen like that. I'm thinking that. That's a scenario. There's a 10 year gap in there too. Yeah. Yeah, but if that's your homie, that's tough.
I was his ex-wife. I can see if he just nailed her.
Yeah.
That's different.
Yeah, bro.
But yo, the wife for all my kids is calling you Uncle Papa and all this shit.
We don't spend holidays together, probably, bro. We won championships together.
People get upset if you talk to somebody's ex-girlfriend, let alone my ex-wife.
I don't care about no ex-girlfriend.
I don't care about your ex-wife more than your ex-girlfriend, though. You probably dumped on.
Me with that. What do you mean? What do you mean? I mean, you did you. Nigga, you remember how you did me? We can talk about it. No, we cannot.
You're contagious.
You're contagious, man. I was like, oh my God. He's making songs about you. You're contagious.
Nah, niggas do be feeling away about their ex-girlfriend.
Yeah, I think if I had an ex-wife, I probably would not give two shits about my ex-wife. Hopefully they had moved on, but still, I'd be looking at you sideways. I don't even care about you out-of-pocket family. Because I feel like if I married you and I was willing to get a divorce about you, I really don't fuck with you.
Yeah, I really don't fuck with you no more.
I can see that.
I see most people, they'll try to fight for their marriage.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Not from that perspective, but like, I'm looking at my homie like, nigga, I don't know. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know if you really my nigga like that. You're not. I've been trying to nail my wife. I'm looking at you different now. How have you been looking at my wife? Exactly. Nah, that's a little weird, bro. But you got her 10 years later. She's probably weak now. And that's an age, bro.
I don't care. Y'all giving Pop a pass, I don't like that. I'm not giving him a pass.
He's fat for that. Pop's 75, my wife's 65. Hey, I got me a new young tender. We can't have any of your ex-friends trying to mess with one of your people before. Does it have any friction with y'all dealing with the same person or having thoughts?
Not that I know of.
I don't think it's okay.
Not that I know of, but I don't play. I don't know. It's too many men out here, too many girls out here.
Why?
Barbie, if one of your friends, just say you just met a homegirl. Y'all been cool for like five years and she ended up being with somebody you was with 10 years ago.
You can't fault her for that.
It depends on.
No, it does not. But if it was one of her friends that's been around and she was there for that relationship and they break up, but then she's like, oh, girl, guess who I'll talk to? Yo.
Barbie give a fuck about one-offs, too. Barbie could let a nigga crack and she... Bitch, you better not touch him.
No, no, no.
That's my body.
I'm not like that. You know how you meet some girls and just be like, damn, now 300 niggas is off-limit.
Like, oh, he... That's you.
Oh, that ain't me.
I don't care.
It's them second ones.
I think that, like, your children's, your children's father, parents is off limits. Anybody that you have like a deep connection with.
Anybody just like random, that's cool.
I don't think baby mama's baby daddy is off limits.
From your friends? Anybody.
Yeah, I would hope so. Somebody dated my baby mama. Yeah, it depends on how, it depends on if it was an accident or not. If I paid you for the abortion, you decide to keep it. Well, I mean, that's a hell of a circumstance. Nah, baby boy is hilarious because he went and picked her up in her car. It was out in her car when it happened. Nah, man.
I only say that, though, because I feel like women should have the right to do what they want to do.
$ 1, 000 for sure, man. That's it, bro.
I'm just laughing at y'all students. I wouldn't care if anybody dated my ex-girlfriend. Me either, though. If that's the case, I should have just stayed with her. If I care that much. Yeah, bro, but Pop is just different.
Like, we.
And being Greg Popovich makes it hilarious. Yeah, and you playing, bro. I mean, it's my baby mom. You're not even... I'm talking about my girlfriend, so that's a little different. Yeah, Pop out of... Pop out of... Chad, let us know how y'all feel, man. Is Popovich wild? I hate her, though. But, yeah, he probably does. No, we hate her. Now, for sure.
I mean, I don't know for real, but I'm sure he probably hates her. He probably had to pay alimony. Exactly. He probably had to pay a little child support. Come on, bro. You know they ain't going... Without no type of bread. Yes, man. Good, man. Good paper in the lead, bro. Shout out to Phoenix, baby.
Shout out to their buyout. Before we get out of here, we talked about this briefly, but could you please tell the people your high school nickname?
What happened? It was Skittles, but it was spelled S-K-E-T-T-O-S.
Her friend told her. Skittles.
Skittles. Skittles, yeah.
Skittles. Yeah.
But it was because they called me Skittles, so I had a whole bunch of different hair colors when.
I was in high school. I know, but why they call you Skittles?
I just wanted to spell it different. I'm the one that spelled it different.
Oh, I was about to say, then, bro, what kind of life was you living?
No, no.
In high school, I was a saint.
That's not like a train track name.
No, I never did. I didn't know where that.
Name came from.
I needed some explanation for that.
They said it was because I was gay. Back then? Being gay. Wow. You was gay. How old were you? In high school. Oh, you was 14? Yeah, if I were gay before that. How'd you figure that out? Pride.
How'd I figure out I was gay?
Yeah. Oh, gosh. Well. What a question.
Yeah, that filled me for a ringer.
Yeah, like, did you just, like, look at a girl, like, damn, she kind of funny. Yeah.
Yeah, I just was more attracted to women than I was to men.
To girls, rather, at the time.
Girls, yeah.
Like. Like, you looked at the girls how we did? Like, damn, her ass fat. Mm-hmm.
Like, damn, she pretty.
I told you I'd be obsessed with, like, girls, like, their sides of their mouths, their lips, and stuff like that.
All right. Yeah. So you just examined their mouths and lips? Okay.
It's a non-sexual feature. Like, you like girls' eyes or their ears or something. Hands, feet, stuff like that. People like worse.
I like mouths.
You looking at girls' hands?
I mean, men do.
That's another name I know somebody else who was like that. What? I'm going to keep you out of this with this stuff.
But, yeah.
Oh, okay. He got in trouble for it. But, anyway. Quarantine.
Yeah, I had to hide.
When did you start liking boys?
I'm bisexual.
I like boys.
Both.
I've always liked both. But I just like girls a little more. And then, you know, it was okay to, like, like guys.
So, I had to, you know. Yeah.
So, was there anything wrong with that?
When the decision came for prom. Oh, so you used to bring your homegirls over and be like, Mama, me and you going to the restroom.
I'm in the restroom. I'm in the bedroom.
Yeah.
So what's going on?
It's a little easier than trying to get a guy in the house, yeah.
Oh, okay. So you just freaked out. Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Wow. You went to the prom with a girl or a boy?
A boy.
Okay. But did you leave with the boy or you left with the girl?
I went to a couple of proms. One prom I left by myself. Second prom I left with a boy, yeah. On my date, rather than just a boy.
Yeah.
Damn, you went to the prom by yourself?
No, no. And you were a twainer?
No, I left prom by myself.
I didn't leave on my date.
Oh, okay. My boyfriend. I was about to say, you a twinner? Yeah, go out for two. You play at both conferences. You got one in your bag. That would have been fire. That's nasty.
Afterwards, I did kiss a girl though.
With my boyfriend sitting on the couch. He went out for the basketball player.
The girls. WNBA, baby.
Oh, you been on that? Yeah. She's been a fever, yeah. Cynthia Cooper. She's back in the day.
No, I'm just saying WNBA back in the day.
I was just thinking, 520 HR has to come back. At some point, we have to make a return. L.A. night. Listen, man, here's 520 somewhere. Cut dogs to go for sure. Oh, man, y'all are crazy, man. Ooh, y'all, there's going to be one. There's going to be some conversation. Put some cuts to this, Tony. For sure. Hey, listen. No pun intended. Shout out to Carl Anthony Towns, man. His pops is talking, man. We're discussing.
He said, hey, will you go back and look? You know what I'm saying? My son, he passed Jimmy Butler. We got that chip life. Also, shout out to Wig. He went and got one, too. The person who ain't got one yet, the person who was up here complaining, man. Yeah. Yeah. Is it time for a conversation to be here? No.
No time for a conversation? No. What career are you taking? Jimmy's a cat. Cat?
Just because he won in New York. If Cat would have won somewhere else, I'm taking Jimmy. Cat won the championship, and he was a big part of New York Knicks.
Yeah.
You stamped forever, bro, in that city.
Yeah. I'm a little torn about this situation. And shout out to Big Towns. He's a cool dude. That was OG. Yeah, he's super cool. Jimmy my guy. Love Jimmy. Cat, my guy. Fuck with Cat. Love Cat. Wig, definitely my guy. Yeah. Shout out Wig. Seen him recently. Shout out to my boy and his family. I don't know, man. Doesn't really matter.
They all super successful.
I think his pops is more so mad because of how Jimmy played on Cat Name like that.
He did.
And I was there for most of that. And I probably stirred up a little bit of it. Like, not made it a problem, but.
Yeah.
Cat really was just trying to be professional. Right.
I would say, like, oh, no. And we come from an era where it's okay to be confrontational.
Yeah.
You don't like somebody, you don't like a situation, you can address it. And he was young.
He had to be in his third, fourth year or something like that. He had never been in a situation where he had to address something. So he ain't know how to do it. So he probably went to management or his agent or whoever his agent probably went up top, said, well, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
But we were men, so Jimmy was approaching it like how we came in the league. As men, you approach the person and say what you don't like, and y'all handle it like that.
Man, it just wasn't that.
Yeah.
That was too young. Yeah.
Cat just wasn't ready for that type of ammo yet either.
And it wasn't even a beat.
The thing that I get confused, Jimmy didn't give a fuck about Cat. He didn't like Cat because he said Cat always went to the front office about everything.
Yeah. And kind of tell him, like, yo, Jimmy treat me this way, Jimmy treat me that way. And that's cool. Jimmy just wanted to get paid. And Cat just happened to be up to get paid first. Yeah, yeah. So Cat became the target. Like, oh, you think Cat better than me?
They're like, no, we just got to pay Cat.
He's like, oh, fuck that. Pay me first. I'm better than Cat. Yeah, pay the future.
Yeah, now I got to embarrass Cat and go at Cat because that's who y'all think is the one.
And Jimmy was out of pocket. Jimmy could have handled that situation a lot.
Jimmy could have waited one more game, one more game.
Year and he would have got a max deal he literally told me called me and said tell jimmy man i'm going to give him the.
Max next year.
I said okay call jimmy tibbs gonna give you the max and i know i want it right now okay he wants it right now he's i can't i can't even technically give him i can't do it right now yeah i said well just figure it out he wants the extension right now then after all the shit go down tibbs.
Like i should have just gave him the extension So you could have been. You could have been. I didn't know that part of that. Yeah, he was like, I should have just gave him the extension. I'm like, yes.
Which he should have, though.
Yeah.
He was one of the hardest working people in the NBA.
And it wasn't your money, too. Yeah. And you had already traded Zach Levine for him. So you already gave it up. You already gave it up. You might as well. And shout out to Zach Levine. Respect, of course. But that was a good trade for them.
Hell yeah, it was, bro.
That was a good trade for them. Zach Levine was averaging 20. That team was fire, bro. Y'all would have kept going. Oh, but really, they shouldn't have traded him. Not for what it ended up.
No, bro. Jimmy was there for a year.
And a half.
That's true.
And also that unlikely injury happened as well because y'all was rolling before that.
A year and a half?
I wouldn't have gave up Zach Levine for Jimmy Butler for a year and a half. Even though in that one year, we did a lot for that city.
Y'all did, man.
But thinking about it, it was a good trade, though.
Yeah, it was a great trade.
That was a blockbuster.
Yeah, that was a great. Chris Dunn and Zach for Jimmy. Yeah, it was great. If they would have just signed Jimmy. Bring it, y'all. That was. Yeah.
I don't know. He should have signed him. But I'm glad Cat is where he is now in New York. And he has the best. And he won a championship because he deserved it. He can relax now. Yeah, he one of the more talented players I ever played with. Special talent.
Cat never really had no real pressure either, though. Cat never had no Joker or NB pressure either. So him winning it, I feel like kind of.
Why you say that?
Because I feel like NB, like you look at NB, like he has to win, bro. Joker, bro, you definitely got to win.
I think they only say that about NB because he had teams put around him.
Cat never had a team put around him until he got him.
Yeah, when Ant got there, it was like they were still sad. He was the number one pick, literally. So they was ass. And then when it got rolling, it was like.
I just feel like Cat always been a great player in the NBA. The pressure just ain't... And it may be because he ain't never had a team, but I feel like he's just been able to coast, bro.
I mean, the pressure was on last year. If they didn't win last year... Yeah. They didn't win last year. Especially how we beat them the year before, bro. Yeah. They didn't bounce back last year, bro. That thing got wicked.
I don't think Cat would have won somewhere in this.
Yeah, I don't think he had pressure to win because he ain't an MVP player. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yogi Janem was best players in the league. He was so talented.
I'm like, damn, Cat couldn't be getting a pass for real, bro.
Because he's just an all-star. Anthony Davis ain't never really had pressure to win. Yeah, nobody's ever said AD got to win a chip. Yeah, it's just like.
Now, when he got to the Lakers, of course, they was like, all right, well, y'all done did all this. Y'all got a squad because y'all had Bron. Now, Cat went to the LA and he had Bron, and they ain't winning. Niggas been like, oh, it's Cat.
Like, Cat, man.
So Cat is not a superstar. He's an all-star.
Yeah, I wouldn't say he.
I wouldn't say he's a superstar, but he's definitely a top-tier player.
He's going to be an all-star. Cat and AD on the same tier?
I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I mean, as far as stardom. Oh, nothing, y'all. How are they on different tiers? Both number one picks. Yeah. Both multi-time all-stars. Both champs. Both champs. I don't know why he not on that tier. What is he missing?
I'm saying Anthony Davis is a superstar. I'm saying Anthony Davis is a superstar. I love Cat.
I love Cat.
He might be a super. He's the same star as Cat. Cat went to New York and became a star?
He had been a household name in New York. Yeah. I mean, he was, but in L.A. he became a household name as well.
Yeah.
Because we wouldn't have said that in Minnesota and also when AD was with the Pelicans.
He didn't get enough coverage as well because of where he was at in the market wise. It would have been like they both nasty. Yeah.
I'm not saying that Cat's a better player than AD or nothing.
No, we just.
I think I would take AD if I had to line them up. I would take AD as a player. But as far as, like, production and star status is, you're going to get the same shit.
About the same. But Anthony Davis is a better defender. He a better player than Cat. But, yeah, it ain't too crazy. When it comes to stars, like, y'all about the same level of star. Y'all going to the club, they'll say Anthony Davis. Oh, they'll go Carl Towns. And now it might be Carl Towns before you say Anthony Davis, like, as far as stars. Yeah, being in New York. But the Brown stuff, that played a role, too. The marketing was there for sure.
I don't know.
It's a good debate. I know. Can't be catching all the flack, bro. But I watched firsthand, bro. When he's on, bro. Especially, bro. He's a hard person to guard, bro. Especially the way he can shoot the ball. One of the best shooting big men of all time. Insane, bro. I think, yeah.
So, I don't want people to get it wrong with us, too. I think Anthony Davis is a better player. I think Kat is cold. I think he's been a superstar.
Awesome. I wasn't even trying to have you compare him.
You think Anthony Davis is a superstar? Yes.
So you would compare him to Jokic? It's kind of, I feel like superstar is tears.
Okay. All right. What's the superstar tears?
Because I feel like Anthony, I mean, LaMelo Ball is a superstar.
Where did LaMelo come from? Cole on the court.
And I'm popular as hell, bro. Anthony Davis is the same superstar as like a John Morant.
I mean, I don't know because Ja Morant can sell tennis shoes.
Yeah, but I mean, but I mean, it don't even sound right.
I mean, but you'll never go buy Nicole Elkis shoes either.
And he has a shoe as well.
Yeah, he has a shoe.
You know, big man.
It's a tear.
Like, you know, people that are behind. It's a tear. Whatever they call for Nicole.
Like, I feel like Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball are superstars, but Anthony Edwards is a bigger superstar than LaMelo Ball.
Yeah. It's tears. They all stars.
Yeah.
They all are, like, stars.
But superstars, like, when you play, meet your off the court.
So, like, LaMelo is a star, a superstar, you want to say. Yes, absolutely.
But his game ain't meeting where the kids love.
Like. They want to shoot one, make a three, let me see. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, you'd be like, ah, did he make the All-Star team this year? Nah, he ain't make it this year.
But the kids think he cold.
Like, you know what I mean? like it's not even a question. I'm going to be on the all-star team. I'm going to be all NBA.
Yeah.
And off the court, I'm still that too. Like LeBron, we never even questioned like, it's all right. Steph Curry.
Steph, James Harden. Is Jalen Brunson a star now? Yeah. Like, we're not even going to think about Jalen Brunson making an all-star team. It's like a given. Like, okay, Jalen Brunson going to be on the team. Yeah.
Uh, No matter what year he at, he can average 23. I'm like, oh yeah, JB, he got the Knicks rolling. He going to be on the Super Bowl. It's just like automatic.
So it's only a select few that can be superstars. Everybody else is stars.
I'm with y'all.
You got like superstar, all-star, in my opinion. I think that's the top of the tiers. You got a few people that's at that point that's superstars generation. You got a lot of all-stars, obviously some really good players in the league, but off the court, man, I'd be as personal.
Even Joker, because he ain't personable at all. He's still a superstar.
Because his play just outshines everything. Like, his play can't even meet. He could be a star off the court. He just don't want to.
Like Kawhi Leonard, bro. Kawhi Leonard, bro.
If we would have seen this personality from him years ago, people would have had different thoughts about him.
People would have bought his shoes.
Okay, I get it.
Bought the claws for sure. Yeah, people would have got the claws. Nah, good conversation. You nothing?
Nothing, bro.
Nah, but I ain't mad at Cat, bro. Get your get back, bro. Talking down to your name, you definitely deserve that. For sure, man. I'm happy for him. For sure.
Now, they are far apart in their extension, though. He said the four-year is $ 200, 000, and he said, yeah, I'm looking at a four-year.
He said he'll take a pay cut, but you ain't finna slice me like that.
But I think a pay cut is $ 230, 000, $ 240, 000. I'm not sacrificing 40 M's in my prime, bro.
Nah, because, hell nah. Yeah, I'm not taking Jalen Dern. No. He get down on a rookie deal.
No.
After the rookie deal, and I'm on, I just won a championship. And I put in work. Yeah. Nah. Y'all took a pay cut. Yeah. Them redneck head in the league, too? Yeah, nah. I ain't no pay cut. Yeah, I'm two. I'm 245.
Jalen Brunson did enough cutting on this scene, bro.
Yeah. Pablo Torre, bro. Like me. See what you did. 230.
I can see him taking 235, 230, 240 range.
Yeah.
I think that'll get it done, but. Because somebody will happily pay Cat. Like we said, bro, somebody will gladly take Carlton to the challenge, bro.
Gladly. Sacramento will pay Cat in a heartbeat.
Oh, yeah.
In a heartbeat. Yeah.
Speaking of that, you say they took out the White Claws and Jalen during the contract and he's still nothing?
He said he still don't want to go?
So far, we've said that he is still nothing on that contract. Probably by the time it drops, he will probably be on a qualified offer.
That's what it's looking like.
Unless they have a last second um reconciliation we'll see what happens hopefully he does but it seems like he's gonna be playing on a qualified offer man i just don't understand how you can just leave 200 million dollars on the table something wrong bro and you play a sport where an injury a wrong step, anything can happen.
Yeah, man. You can go up for a dunk and.
They can shake all of that, bro.
We watched Paul George and some of these great athletes have some freak accidents.
He looking at it, y'all trying to take $ 87 million from me.
And I think that he's looking at it the wrong way, in my opinion. No disrespect, but you can't count, you know what I'm.
Saying, chickens that ain't had it yet. It ain't been signed.
But y'all owe me this, cuz. I do not owe you anything.
This is what I'm worth. No, that's not true. I'm telling you what you're worth. It's not true.
They're literally telling him what you're worth. And you can't even get that from no other team. Like, he can go on free agency next year, and it's still going to be less than what they offer.
Yeah, if he keep playing this, it's going to get wicked.
No, no, I'm saying, like, the max deal that he can get from another team, he's still less than.
What he can get. Yeah, they can't match it. No, it's like, why we, like, do you, like, like he said right here, 189 from no team. Yeah. Yeah. Just take the money and say you're not happy. Everybody know you're not happy. So just sign. Then come back and be like, I told you I wasn't happy. Killing it out the way.
Yeah, I'm hooping. But Jalen, why are you not smiling? I told you I wasn't happy. But like, what do you mean? It's simple.
Yeah.
I'm playing because I love playing basketball. But I told you I wasn't happy. And they've talked about it. They said that every turn he's bet on himself and been successful. Obviously, with him replacing up, him going to... Like, I ain't mad at it, but I don't want him to do this to prove a point, bro. Like, I don't know who's in his corner, but, bro, get your money, bro.
Get your... We've seen too many examples of going wrong, bro. It's one step in your whole... Everything can be different. Derrick Rose was literally the MVP in the league at year three. The next year, he was hurt. That's true.
Whole career. We expected Derrick Rose to be After, man, he might get two MVPs. He might be the greatest point guard that ever lived. And it was one false move, one late game play, and his whole career changed.
Yeah.
So playing, and luckily he ain't play with that money. He signed his deal, and he was able to rehab and, you know, get back to playing.
But it's one false move, bro. It's one rebound. John Shire got poked in the eye and never could play basketball again.
Which is crazy. People don't know how cold John Starr was in Los Angeles, bro. He was bumping his head. Shit like that happens.
Mm-hmm.
And Trajan Langdon is over there now, and he said, y'all done dealt with this before in New Orleans. This ain't unfamiliar for me, bro.
We can play hardball if you want to. Damn, man. I don't know, man.
I'm out of touch, but, bro, 200 M's, I know you worth what you want to be worth, and I got to respect that, but to turn that down, bro?
Shit. I just can't stand that. His people and his family is like, Yeah. I seen some, shout out to Kendrick Perkins. He said it.
Cause when I was a free agent, yeah. Like your agent worked for you. So I don't know if this is really his true feeling. Like this is Asian.
Like now.
That's what I'm saying.
They don't, they don't love you. You might want, we need to get out of here.
But man, that could hurt you too though. You better call your mama. I don't know if you guys mama's life.
Yeah.
Whoever, whoever keep you grounded. Call them and ask them, I remember, shout out to Al Horford. And he was like, when I was mad about my contract, he was like, if I would have told you at 18 years old, you can get $ 32 million to play basketball, what you would have did?
He said, you would have played that motherfucker. You would have put your blood on that shit, wouldn't you? I'm like, hell yeah. He said, then what the fuck you mad about? I'm like, because I could have got more. He was like, all right. You know what I mean? All right. But it's true. When you're a little kid, somebody told you you can get $ 200 million playing basketball, bro. You what up?
You go, what?
I mean, when you look at it from that perspective, I understand.
Y'all are going to say, when it gets to that point, you got to just kind of hone in.
It's like, okay, all right, y'all. Y'all ain't fucking with me, cool. Let me go ahead and sign it. I'm not mad at him for initially saying no, though.
But to me, even if I'm looking at it, I'm like, okay, they offered me $ 200, and then they tell me, well, if you don't sign it, the best thing you can get is $ 190 something.
From another team. That don't even sound right. Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and try and sign this in. Yeah. I can see if he can get 225 for somebody else. You're only taking less.
And you're about to be in a situation that's probably not as comfortable as in Detroit. And it's tough for them because K just came back pretty much an MVP type season. And they in training camp, bro, they don't know what's going on. Yeah.
And you just don't want to be looked at as the one hard to work with either. It's a lot to come with that.
You know how labels are in the NBA, bro.
Even if it's not your label, once you get stuck with it, bro. It's all bad, but also it's real wicked because if you sign a qualifying offer, bro, they're going to treat you like that. You always said, price don't go up in them situations, bro. Once you get labeled at a certain price point, that.
Is what you are. What do they do like that, Kim Thomas? Yeah. You sign that qualifying offer. Like, for real, think about it.
If you sign a qualifying offer on me and I know, are you mad at me? Maybe I'm the coach and you mad at me. I don't know what his problem is. He be mad at management. Maybe he don't like how he was being used last year, so he might be upset with the coach. Shit, I'm going to roll with this guy. Paul Reed, he been here in training camp.
He ready to work.
Yeah, Paul working.
Yeah. Like, it ain't no fire to me. Like, y'all make damn near the same amount of money. I don't know. I get kind of the same production when Paul out there. It ain't really no... Yeah. Ain't no fire being lit. Like... That's true.
You know, when you make 40 million and Paul Reed make six, seven, it's like, big dog, I'll be out there.
But when you make it nine and Paul makes seven, it's like... Fourth quarter come, bro. I might be rocking. Yeah, it don't matter. It ain't no... Ain't no pressure. Ain't no pressure. Coach probably like, we was better without you. Yeah, bro.
That's going to be tough.
That playoff run for him, bro, just really kind of shocked you, honestly.
It showed you everything that they're going to show on this qualifying offer.
Yeah, man. We will see what happens.
That is a tough scenario, but especially fresh off the Kaminga situation, bro.
I would not chance that at all, man. You got too many examples to look at. Amiga owner, what are you making? $ 8 million a year? He took less than the Lakers offered him more. Yeah. Yeah, man.
We'll see what happens, man. Detroit bounced back after a crazy year, boy. Detroit is crazy, boy. Yeah, it get wicked, bro. The business of basketball is undefeated, bro.
Yeah, it's crazy. Undefeated for sure.
Damn, I know we talked about this brief in the morning show, but we talked about this a couple of isos ago about the funeral homes in Detroit, man. That is crazy that people tagged us to that. We don't have nothing to do with that. God bless everybody involved. Them telling us to follow back up with that. I said, we will not be doing that.
I don't want no smoke with that.
Yeah.
I'm praying for them people, boy. It's hard, like, losing your mama like that.
Yeah. I'm nothing. I'm nothing.
The motherfucker accidentally cremated my mama.
Nah.
Get back a motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah.
I was going to say, boy, yeah. Some people take that a little bit personal, boy. Get back a motherfucker.
You know what's crazy, B-Hint? Have you finished Beauty is Black yet, man? You tap back in?
I have, but I ain't finished it yet.
You see P-Valley's on the way back, T?
No, I'm not.
They've been waiting on this season for the last three to four years. P-Valley is back. P-Valley? What's his name? The rapper?
Lil Murda?
Oh, Little Murder. I'm about to call him... Little Murder being Chris Paul. And that docu-series still pisses me off. I'm about to call him Uncle Murder because no disrespect to the guy.
Yeah, you know, Uncle Murder loves Chris Paul.
Yeah, no disrespect to Uncle Murder. Shout out to Yale as well.
Yeah. I can't believe that this show is coming back. This third season was supposed to be rumored for like four years. I said, the fact that they doing this is absolutely hilarious, bro. I stopped watching.
I think probably season one. That is true. Little Murder. And what's the other one named? Uncle Clifford. Yeah. Good dog. I started watching that first season. Cricket letter, cricket letter. That show is insane. The first, like, four episodes, I was like, this motherfucker gonna be cold. And then it got wicked fast. I was like, yeah, this ain't my type. Bro, when old girl mama became a pastor and ran off with that bread, she started the money to start, she said, I'm starting the church. Yeah. Upon this, God told me, I should have your money. Yeah, I, Oh, yeah. Well, Murda been fighting for his life ever since that shit was over with. You know what's crazy, bro?
Yeah, he did catch some backlash for that, but he's been in some recent roles. He's been getting his shit off this year. He's had a really good 2026 for sure.
That's good.
I know it was tough for you.
I wonder what made them come back with that show, though. Everybody loved it, bro.
Yeah.
How do you love that? Where is it at? I was like, all right, bro.
For a show to be that show and for it to have that type of a gap, I didn't understand it, but I ain't mad at it, man.
We'll see what happens. I'm definitely going to watch.
I'm not hating nobody getting their money because obviously that's going to get them actors paid.
It's going to be turned up. But we don't never see no high A's for a show to come back like that at all. And shout out to... A different world. Not really my cup of tea, but I had a cup of tea. Man, you know what? Y'all said something about it. I went and watched a couple episodes. I wasn't super mad at it at all. Yeah, it ain't cool.
I ain't mad at it. But it ain't.
I'm mad at it, DJ.
You mad at it? Yeah, a different world with something legendary that it don't. Yeah, bro. I like the OGs get a chance to get their shit off again, but I'm iffy on spinoffs. Like, did you see they doing a barbershop TV show again? I don't need that.
Like, I ain't trying to take nobody's pocketbook, but... What happened to the... It didn't work the first time, did it?
Yeah, but Omar Gooden was Calvin.
A different world just don't got the same vibes.
Different times, man. Yeah, they was like... It is different times. It was cooler. But just be.
I can't say what I really want to say, but it's just too much, bro.
Yeah.
It's too dark. Nigga, I used to laugh and shit watching that shit, bro. The little light-skinned nigga that I used to be with, bro, used to be hilarious.
It's all drama. Yeah. It's not. That was not the vibes. It was drama in a different world, but it was like.
Not like that. It was more relatable.
Yeah, and it was like. I feel like they tried to do what the French Prince did. Like, make everybody sad and shit. Yeah. But I like the French Prince reboot. I ain't gonna lie. The Bel-Air reboot, the first season, I was cool. I like the way. I feel like they tried to take that route. They just didn't hear.
That second. It's the same type of niggas in Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. No, no, no, no. They don't got that.
I do like the casting that they did for the new reboot. I think they kind of kind of were trendy with that. I ain't mad at that.
But yeah, they do. They are with modern time for sure. Yeah.
To say the least. I don't know what's going on with this Barbershop reboot. I might give it a chance, man. I'm always here if it's black. But yeah, I'm a little skeptical.
That's my problem.
I'm a little skeptical. I like new ideas, but I don't do ideas get shot down every day. So.
I was going to try to watch TV for y'all, bro. I came, bro. Everything I turn on, bro, is different, bro.
Yeah.
I want to keep my job. Yeah, bro. I'm cool.
But if you do watch TV, tap into Sling.
Yeah, you know the vibes, baby. Shout out to Sling TV, baby. Football season's going down, man. That day passed, man. If you want to tap in for that Saturday football, $ 4. 99 for sure, man. Good people over there at Sling TV, boy. Yeah, college football is going down for sure, man.
It's going down. Be here.
One thing people ain't talking about enough, bro. They tried to downplay the Texas A & M win. They was sad. They was sad. I don't care how they was ranked when they pulled up to play LSU. And you will respect the win, bro. We are still here for Lane Kiffin.
He will rebound, bro. Forever, bro.
He always talking about teams that don't mean nothing. Let's talk about Wake Forest beating Louisville A's.
Two teams that don't mean anything. See? They mean nothing. Absolutely nothing right now. Speaking of college football, please play this right here. This is As coaches, you and Lou, would y'all do this after a victory, man? Hell no. This is hilarious. You seen this? Look. Six-player blood. Damn. Boy, I wouldn't even help him. They say that is a violation for sure. Man, if that boy had.
Somebody bleed on that court, I ain't even walking by him.
Oh, yeah. Then you don't know what your quarterback doing. Yeah, bro. You do not love him that much, bro. That victory did not mean that much. Yeah.
He wrote that on his Facebook.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Well, he better not see it the wrong way. Getting them pours, boy. See, Z-Boy. It's that English Elbow clip where he's eating the Halloween. He's letting go of our chicken breasts, cuz.
Yeah, bro, there is no way that you looking player that much to be doing that, man. Have y'all seen this, though? The reroute right here. Netflix doing some diabolical stuff, man. The Stanford Prison Experiment. where they put people in real situations. 60 Days In used to be one of my favorite shows, but it got a little too out of pocket. But this right here, people really got to tap in for that role. Either you're a prison guard or you're in a prison. What are you going to do? I'm not doing the show at all. I'm never going to jail voluntary.
Never going to jail. Have y'all ever seen, have y'all seen OJ Simpsons? You got one of these? No, new documentary about OJ Simpsons.
No, there's another one? Oh, it's fire, where.
They talk about him doing a prank show. About his, like, after the murders, he did a prank show. And it's a documentary about him doing a prank show. But the prank show was just to get him to confess about the murders. But you got to go watch it.
They tried to line my boy up. They tried to line him up. But you remember when the knife thing, he was like. Yeah. It's for. Oh, that's what that's for? All that. Like, yo. Oh, my God. That is one of my favorite kids of all time. It's fucking hilarious. He was fucking crazy, bro. He got up. He's trying to sell people Broncos. It's the best escape car. Please play this. It's unbelievable, bro.
Right here.
That's one of the major symbols. Yo, it's unbelievable, bro. That's all I want. Oh, he signed it? It's half a brain cell. It's a show about O.J.
Simpson pranking people.
You didn't guess. I didn't know. One year. It's all out. We've been pleaded. Trial of the century.
It's crazy.
Oh, the juice is on a little pro. O.J. might be one of the ghosts of all time. That's the best way to explain it. This double middle. Oh, I'm salty. I'm salty. Yeah, bro. Oh, shit. What the hell is the name of the building? Duke? Is this the name of it? Yeah. Oh, I'm salty, bro. Yeah. It felt good.
I could have gave my boy a few more years, man. Oh, yeah, bro.
I'm surprised you hadn't tapped in, bro. Oh, no. Thank you for this. I will have a report next episode. I'm sold, bro. I have to watch all this. The juice is on the loose, bro. Because you just been juiced. Escapability? What? Got him selling Broncos. That's crazy. That's crazy.
He did make them famous, though.
And what's crazy is they came back a few years ago. He definitely should have got the endorsement. Yeah. I don't know if they're sold, though. Yeah, I am locked in, bro. Thank you for that. That is insane, man. Wow. I don't even know what to say after that. Reasonable Doubt.
Mike, do you watch Reasonable Doubt, the TV show?
Nah.
It's a fire show. It's a black law show. That's coming back in a couple weeks as well. What you think about Jay-Z, the new episodes?
I like it. I just don't like Rick Rubin.
Why?
Bro, I wish it was somebody else there, bro. Yeah. I'm fucked with it, bro.
He.
I only seen a little bit.
It's Jay. So, like, some of the stuff we hear, I'm enthused about. I hear he's not his brother. It's crazy. That's crazy. That was crazy. I mean, he rapped about it before, too. Yeah.
Yeah, but to hear, like, Breakdown, that's why I like Rick Rubin, because he really getting the bars. I know Jay didn't want to talk about it.
Bro, no. And he was kind of like, Rick, do I really have to break down? Yeah, like. That's the problem. All right, my nigga. He's like, do I got to break down? I shot my brother.
You know, he prays Rick, bro.
He does.
Rick a part of everything. So, if anybody don't get out of him, it's Rick.
Him talking about the Scarface breakdown which I heard before but that was fire to hear that verse about Can't Be Life that was fire as well listen to 444 that song about Beyonce hit a little different when you read the words I'm like wow he like them stillborns and stuff like 444 is a fire whole album bro like a very mature fire whole album.
That was therapeutic for him for sure you can tell I never heard that song since I made it damn The family was definitely in shambles that day. It sure was. Yeah. I'm watching the elevator, Tom. Yeah, it was.
That was.
Family background, I understand. But also, y'all sparked that conversation. They keep going, those two albums y'all talk about, man. Mac and Carla, Holy Grails, man. It's in the lead, but still asleep. I ain't trying to revisit the topic, but. You don't got to.
I told you. It is what it is, DJ. Respect, man. He going to do the Super Bowl. I'm just waiting for the announcement. He's doing the Super Bowl. I don't know why I act like this is a surprise. Nobody else is able to do it, boy. You know you're doing it. It's the rollout for all this shit. Yeah, come on, bro. And the album going to drop right after.
He do it every time.
The album will drop that day of, probably during the actual performance.
I'm here for it, though. I'm here for it. Yeah, he move like Brian.
He listen.
Yeah. I mean, you know what?
He move like Brian.
I got it from him, bro. Yeah.
They move just the way.
All right, man, before we get out of here, the Philadelphia 76ers, man. Who is getting to play when they lose games? That's a good question, bro. Is it going to be LeBron James or not? I ain't even going through that. Is it going to be LeBron's fault if they lose games or not? No, it's nowhere near him.
It's going to be Embiid. They're going to play Embiid? Yes. 100%, bro. Maxie is too loved. He the best player on the team. JB going to play hard as hell. Philly going to love him. LeBron 50. It's going to be Embiid landslide, bro.
For sure.
Who getting the last shot? Jalen Brown. Game on the line. We down two. Who getting the ball? Got to be Jalen Brown. But I would say probably Jalen Brown, Tyrese Max.
Joel Embiid can get it too, but I feel like the other two create shots easier.
I don't know if that's true, though. Joel Embiid a couple game winners, though.
Yeah, Embiid can get a shot off on anybody too.
I don't know.
Will this be the first year that we really don't give LeBron slack for anything that's happening on the team?
Because he ain't supposed to be the person catching the blame for this. Yeah.
Yeah.
We, no, not last year. Last year, we didn't give him slack because Luka was supposed to carry. I mean, I'm like your man, so I feel like LeBron should have did more, but you know how that goes.
He a facilitator now, bro. Yeah, he not gonna get no, he not, he here for the good times. He ain't gonna have no slack. Like, LeBron get eight points one game, nobody cares.
Damn.
That's gonna hurt y'all feelings, though.
It is, bro. I don't want to see that, bro. I do. Unless they winning. I don't want to see people hooping on LeBron James, bro. That's gonna piss me off.
His energy gonna be so high, bro. You ain't gonna notice.
Yeah. And one thing we didn't talk about being Bronny Media Day. Yeah. Yeah, my name is LeBron James. Yeah. They say his name is what?
LeBron James.
LeBron?
LeBron James.
That's hard. That's all he want to be called, LeBron James Jr.? I don't know what he want.
To be called.
People forget my name is LeBron. Yeah, like, nigga, I'm LeBron. Like, I'm making my way right now.
I'm making my own path, bro.
I don't get it. It's time to respect, bro. What don't you get? Like, what? Are you saying, like, yo... I'm doing my own thing, bro. My dad is my old teammate, bro. They don't care about that nigga no more over here, bro. Oh, then why you say my name is LeBron? Because he wants to let y'all know, bro, I'm LeBron.
You forgot.
You called him Bronny. Yes, bro. It's time. I'm confused, bro. All right. You want to be called LeBron? No, he's just saying my name is LeBron, bro. I'm Bronny, but just don't get it. Don't forget who I am. Yes, bro. Oh, don't forget my dad. It's LeBron.
I think about how much you, all the minutes that you got in the G. In the Houston series, you were able to make a massive impact. how Ronnie and Luca backward, get it done. And since then in this off season, are there things that you were able to try to get to that next level of, as you.
Now enter this? I think the biggest thing for me is just continuing to grow.
Um, you know, every day coming to the gym with my right mindset, um, trying to get better. Um, and then just taking all the tips that, uh, coaching staff gives me and, applying it to, you know, my.
All right, I got to get you real quick in the morning. So, he's being PR right now, but yeah, bro. I love that. I was like, yes. Respect, bro. This is his last year in his contract, too. Yeah, I know. You know where he about to be, bro. He will be resigned. He needs to be in Philly, bro. Uh, with the Lakers, bro. It's a big year, bro. It's a contract. What do y'all say? Contract year. I'm not hating.
I hope LeBron.
What do you want to be called? Whatever you want to call it, bro.
I hope LeBron James Jr. have a really good year. I'm rooting for him, for sure. I'm a fan.
Yes, bro. Don't forget. I watched him grow up, man. Literally. Like your friends. Especially my boy, for sure, man. He's going down, man. I just don't understand why he said, I'm LeBron. I mean, you are LeBron. Yes. Don't forget, bro.
We're two different people, bro.
Oh, he said my name LeBron. Yeah, don't. Don't get twisted. I'm different. I don't care about him, bro. Yeah, bro. Oh, that's what he was saying. Like, we're. Yes, bro. I'm here for a reason, bro.
Oh, he was saying my name LeBron, but dog. Like, y'all ain't got to talk.
You see, they kept me, bro. And they got rid of him.
Be here for Sam. How is y'all going, man? That's what I'm saying. All right, man. Y'all are fried, man. Shout out to Bronny, man. Let's get it done, man. Hey, you have to have your jersey. I understand Rudy Gobert's jersey is still in customs whenever you get here, but you have to get it fried. Yeah, because I'm a real Bronny fan for sure. Yeah, it's going down for sure, man.
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