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Bonus Episode: A New Kurt Cobain Cause of Death Report and Artists Gone Too Soon

Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2026 · 44 min

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What can we take away from the new report on Kurt Cobain’s cause of death? And which rockstars gone too soon mattered to you the most? All this and more in the After Party.

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Hey, Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we are discussing me as a potter of the gets.

We're also talking about the new report on Kurt Cobain's cause of death, my Super Bowl hangover that won't go away, and we get into your emails, comments, dms, and as always a whole lot of rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried.

Disgrace Land is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, Discos, let's get into it. Mia Zapata, lead singer for the Seattle band The Gits, died on July seventh, nineteen ninety three, at twenty seven years old, just shy of her twenty eighth birthday. She was murdered tragically, and it's hard to imagine had Mia lived, how her music in life might have evolved. Mia was both inspired and inspiring, in part of a growing scene and born of a generation steeped in rebellion. Whatever road she might have pursued creatively or personally, I'm sure it would have been compelling for us as music fans. Her friend Kurt Cobaine would be dead less than a year later, on April fifth,

nineteen ninety four, from a self inflicted shotgun wound, but it's hard not to attribute the musician's debilitating heroin addiction as a cause of his demise as well. In two thousand and two, grunge avatar Lane Staley from Alice in Chains, he fell victim to his own heroin addiction on the exact same day as Kurt April fifth. His cause of death officially was an overdose of heroin and cocaine, a deadly combination commonly referred to on the street as a speedball lane frequently shot speedballs with Seattle vocalist and poet Mark Lanigan of the Screaming Trees. Mark was the last person Kurt Cobain called before he died. Mark's band, Screaming Trees were recorded a song in nineteen ninety six referencing

me as a pada called Dying Days. Mike McCready, Seattle guitarist from Pearl Jam. He guests on the song Dying Days the Miyaz, a Pada tribute by Screaming Trees, and McCready handles the tunes guitar solo. Now, Mike McCready's playing on that tune and on basically everything that he's ever recorded is heavily influenced by the greatest rock and roll guitarist of all time and fellow Seattle native, Jimmy Hendricks.

Jimmy died back in nineteen seventy. Now had he been born in a later generation, Mike McCready's Temple of the Dog bandmate and Soundgarden frontman Chris Cornell thinks that Jimmy Hendricks would have been too heady a guitar player to break through and to make it in the modern music industry. All right, that's understandable. I guess Chris Cornell was speaking about the music industry in twenty eleven, which was firmly on a downward spiral by then. But what if Jimi Hendrix had lived? What if Lane Staley or even Mark Lanigan, As hard as that is to believe, what if these dudes lived? What kind of music would they be making today?

What if Chris Cornell lived or Kurt Cobaine? What would music even be like if these monumental voices were still making it? Where would Kirk Cobaine's music and voice fit into today's modern culture. That's a super interesting question to think about for me. Anyways, it's hard, you know, I think about, you know, would Kurt still be in Nirvana?

That's hard for me to believe. I believe that Kurt wasn't long for the band no matter what, or at the very least that he was going to make big changes with Nirvana, either in sound, line up, production or all three. And a lot of people ask what would Kurt think of Foo Fighters? What would you think of Dave Grohl modern day Dave Grohl, not to dunk on Dave, who's had a off a couple of years. By rock Star standards, but I think Food Fighters would nauseate Kurt Cobain.

And yes, I'm aware of what Davis said about Kurt's positive reaction to some of his early demos that ended up becoming fully produced songs on the Food Fighters first album. I'm speaking less about the music here and more about the hammy, super comfortable, normy, mainstream place that Dave Grohl occupies in the music industry. I cannot see Kurt Cobain vibing with that at all. But it's hard, almost impossible, to predict what these artists who were taken too soon would be like had they lived. I'm just guessing, That's all I'm doing. I have no idea. I'm basing it on the research I've done on Kirk Cobain and what I know his personality to be. I don't know that he would be into Dave grow in Food Fighters. I

don't think anybody knows. One thing I do think I know about Kirk Cobain is that he was an entirely unpredictable Of all these artists that I mentioned, I think that Kurt Cobain, similarly to John Lennon, had he lived, I think the Kurt would be most surprising comparatively to their peers. To Kirk Cobain and John Lennon's peers, both of these artists were fiercely independent, both were a true iconoclast, both were extremely hypocritical, and both were wildly impulsive. I don't know what to think about Kurt's life or music had he survived himself, except that whatever I think, Kurt probably would have done something different. He was rare in that way. Again, like John Lennon, You're going to hear

a lot about Kirk Comain in the coming days. The British newspaper of the British tabloid, I should say, The Daily Mail just this week published a so called peer reviewed report on Kirk Comain's death that supposedly refutes the suicide cause of death and argues that the evidence surrounding Kurt's suicide suppose a suicide. As they would put it, they'd say, this report says that the evidence supports a staged suicide, that it wasn't suicide, that it was in fact homicide. Now why this report was published, I have no idea. I can't even understand why the Daily Mail and others like Newsweek are covering this report It's researchers Brian Burnett and Michelle Wilkins, among others. This report their report,

I should say it was sent to us back in December through what appears to be a publicist posing as a rando. I'm not exactly sure we here at Double Elvis examined the report. I didn't do it personally. Matt Boden did much to his credit. The details in this report are they're just they're they're I don't even I can't even find the word for it. They're tough, I'll put it that way. Visuals, it's not just text. It's awful.

So anyways, again, I didn't look at it, but Matt looked at it, and I trust Matt completely. And Matt concluded that the information that this report provides does not disrupt what the King County Medical Examiner ruled back in nineteen ninety four that Kirk Cobn's death was the result of suicide from a fatal gunshot to the head and the report the original report. The King County report also noted the suicide note and the high level of heroin in Kirk Kobein's system. But even without this report, if one carefully reads the Daily Mail or the Newsweek articles about the new report. You can discern pretty quickly that the evidence that these researchers lay out is flimsy at best.

Now it's all wrapped up in the trappings in the look and feel of an official report, a quote unquote peer reviewed report. The report cites the positioning of Cobain's body, claiming that it was staged to look like a suicide. The report sites the fact that Kobaine had a receipt for bullets in his pocket as proof of this staging.

This makes no sense. The report also cites a condition of Kobaine's works, what he used to shoot, his drugs, and the capped needles, and the toxicology report that indicates the state of Kurt's body from heroin use. And there's a whole lot more in here, but none of it holds up this conspiracy theory that Kurt was killed, that he didn't commit suicide, that Kurt was murdered. Okay, the researchers here, the authors of this report, They do not claim knowledge of who might have killed Kurt Kobain, But we all know what the conspiracy theory is. It's that his wife at the time Courtney Love had him killed, and this conspiracy theory, it reminds me a lot of the Lady Gaga illuminati theory. It just will not go away.

It just will not die again. You want to hear that Gaga conspiracy theory, all the conspiracy theories related to Lady Gaga, including that she had her her friendly and Morgana killed and stole her whole musical identity. You can listen to less two episodes of Disgrace and a couple episodes back now in the eight years of making Disgraceland.

The group of music fans that I've pissed off the most are the ones who believe that Kurt was murdered by Courtney. But I am I was gonna say I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. The evidence just isn't there. If it was, you know, I would be the first to shout it out. I am not afraid of digging into conspiracy theories. There are no sacred cows. I'll look into anything, and I'm gonna tell you straight up if the evidence supports it.

I'll even admit when I was wrong about things, and I have been wrong, as we all are. None of us are perfect.

And I'm not.

Afraid to say so. Listen, if I believe Courtney Love had anything to do with the death of Kurt Cobaine, I would not only say so, just to be honest, it would make my job way more interesting. Not that it's not interesting already, but you get the point. But in defense of the Kurt and Courtney conspiracy theorists, there are some facts that don't make sense, like the handwriting on the suicide note, But if I put some thought into it, I can quickly come up with numerous explanations.

So no, Kurt wasn't murdered, despite what this new report says. He, like Jimmy Hendrix and Mark Lanagan and Chris Cornell and Lane Staley and me as Apata, was just one of many Seattle rock stars who died too young. Speaking to Curt and Courtney. There's a Courtney Love documentary that's coming out this year, I believe, although there's no date of release yet that I can find. I'm very excited to see this. I believe it debuted at Sun Dance, and apparently Courtney addresses all of these batshit crazy conspiracy theories, which I gotta say is pretty impressive. Zeth and I are going to address these theories more fully in the exclusive section of this after party. We're going to dive into what the conspiracy theorists think, what they say. I'm

going to straw man this argument a bit, and I'm gonna I've talked to Zeth about this in advance, and I want him to come to the table and to defend the point of view of the conspiracy theorist. Now, as much as I don't believe in the conspiracy theories here, as I've indicated just now, there is some compelling evidence, okay, And we're gonna get into the note. We're gonna get a little bit into l Duce and some other elements to sort of break this down. And who knows, maybe you'll learn something, maybe I'll learn something, all right, I don't know, we'll see anyways. That's in the exclusive section of this after party coming up. Go to Disgrace slamdpod dot com to sign up for five bucks a month grab this exclusive content in ad free content as well.

All right, again, speaking of artists shooting themselves. Next week in Disgrace sand We've got a treat for you. We are releasing into the wide feed for everybody to hear our previously exclusive episode on Hunter S. Thompson, now not a musician, but definitely a rock star in his own right, and an artist that I know has a lot of crossover in the world of rock and roll into the world of music history and with music fans and counterculture fans.

This is gonna be the last last time we do this, I think that being released an episode on a non musician in the Disgrace Sland Feed. We produced this Hunter S. Thompson episode a year or so ago, mainly because we're massive fans and we wanted to apply our storytelling to our research on this incredible writer and cultural figure. So that episode is coming next week. And when you're listening to the Hunter S. Thompson episode and Disgrace Sammy, thinking about who your favorite writers are. Is it Hunter Thompson?

Is it, I don't know, Charles Bukowski is it William S. Burrows?

Is it?

Someone more modern? Is it, I don't know, Harlan Coben. I can go on and on, and there's a million great writers out there. When you're listening to this Hunter episode, be thinking about who your favorite writers are and get at me with your recommendations. I'm particularly interested in autobiographies by musicians that you guys have read. I mentioned Mark Lanigan before his autobiography Sing Backwards and Wheat. It's a great example of what I'm talking about. Lots of you guys recommended this book to me, and it led to us creating the Mark Lannigan episode of Disgraceland. Now, whatever musician biograph he's you're into, let me know, recommend him to me. Recommend to me in honor of Hunter S. Thompson,

any other writers in general that that are just kind of like rock and roll writers that whatever, they don't have to be rock any writers at all that I know that's broad, but I'm always looking for new new recommendations. Hit me up six p one seven nine oh six six sixty three eight voicemail and text to let me know now. Coincidentally, Hunter S. Thompson's death was recently reinvestigated years after he died, and uh a good year after we produced our previously exclusive episode. So we're going to get into this recent probe and next week's after party as a follow up to our Hunter episode. All right, back to this week coming up tomorrow right after this episode in the rewind slot our episode on You Got

It Lane Staley, and then, like I said, we hit you next week with Hunter S. Thompson. I'll be back after this with your voicemails, texts and emails, where we're going to discuss, among other things, your thoughts on musicians who, like me as a Potter, were taken too soon, the ones that impacted you the most. We're also going to be discussing your childhood music experiences. We dipped into that last week in the exclusive section of the after Party.

Lots of you guys responded, a lot of you on Patreon. We're going to get into that as well. We'll be back right after this, all right, guys, six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. You want to send me a voicemail, you want to leave me a text, you want to connect in any way about the question of the week, or just anything in general. That's how you do it. Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. We asked a questquestion last week. We asked the question this week in relation to me as a pod of which artists that impacted you were taken too young. Let's chick in with the three three four.

Hello, mister Jake, it's Mahali. I've been featured on Hollywood Land with mister Death a few times, but hoping this might be the first time on Disgraceland calling in response to the question about artists who died before they got their due. Trying to keep this as short as possible, but I've got.

Three for you.

Number one for my generation, which is anyone who's an eighties baby grew up on this group and others like it. Sublime and Bradley Noell, that guy, he was gone before what we now know as Sublime became what it is. Number two would be Otis Redding. He passed away right before his hit Sitting on the Dock of the Bay came out. And I think the biggest one overall from all of my life and probably in general when it comes to music as an American, with the Richie Ballens. Dude, he wasn't even eighteen years old, he wasn't even a full grown adult, and you know gone, And today, seventy plus years later, la bamba and his name, his music still still it searched and widely widely loved around the world.

So I think above all of the others that I know of, Richie Bellens has to be the top one who was gone before he got his due. He never even got to see adulthood, much less the impact that he had in this musical world. Thank you again, Rock Rolla. Love what you guys do, and I'm looking for forward to some more scripted episodes.

Take it easy, guys, three three four, great call, Thanks for reaching out. Happy to get you on Disgrace in here for the first time. Thanks for checking out Hollywood Land. Appreciate you. Yeah, some great choices here. Sublime Bradley Knowle, really interesting. What a grave voice that guy had, just incredible.

Would have been awesome to hear. How how he would have matured as a singer and a musician. You also mentioned Otis Redding. That's a big one. That's a huge one. You know, what would the trajectory of Otis Redding have been? What do you have sort of like blasted through the rest of the sixties and the seventies and just kind of well, he did he died. He died in nineteen seventy.

Hold on, I gotta figure this out. Nope, nineteen sixty seven. What do you just kind of blasted through those years and spun out in a way that a lot of the sort of R and B and soul singers did, even some of the bigger ones like James Brown, or perhaps would he have cemented himself as a true kind of legacy artist like Ray Charles or Aretha Franklin and have just kind of ascended into this the sort of upper echelon of musicians from his day. I think probably the latter. I think it would have been the Aretha Franklin.

Ray Charles wrote. You also mentioned Richie Vallens, and thank you for reminding me. We still haven't produced a Richie Allens episode or Buddy Hally or The Day of the Music Died. I've never been able to figure out, like, do I want to do it about all of them? You know, all this comes up in the Wayland Jennings episode.

I want do I want to do it about all of them? Or do I want to do it about each of them? I think I want to do it about each of them because I'm I'm just at least when it comes to Buddy Holly and it comes to Richievillens, I'm just completely interested in both of them as musicians. I think it would it would be limiting to do one story on all three artists, including the big bopper in here as well. I saw Lebamba in the theaters as a kid when it came out, and it just blew me away everything about it. The performances were incredible. God, I can still remember the fascination I had with that stratocaster that is featured in the film. But I think the reason that that movie has stayed with me for so long is those songs. Those Richie Allen songs are

just undeniable. They're incredible. Great call three three four, appreciate you. Let's check this recommendation from the three to one seven.

Jake Man, you really have to do an episode on the Crayonberries and Delores. You were asking about the best Irish punk band everything. It is easily the crean Berries. I'm not as super fan, but Delores was magical. Her voice was nominated as one of the best voices ever.

So please, please, if you.

Have it in your heart, I think it's a great story. Her death is tragic, but please let's look up the Crayonberries.

All right, three one seven, You've got it. We've got an episode on Dolores from the Cranberry is coming sometime soon. I don't know when, but this is one of those like to me as a pot of that gets this is one of those subjects that just keeps getting recommended to me. I've been hesitant to get into it just because it's so damn sad. Maybe I can convince Zeth to write this one. So I don't know that my headn't it. We shall see, but yes, we're gonna get to Dolores three one seven. Appreciate you see guys, text, call, leave a voicemail, and you know your recommendations, they'll they'll turn into granted wishes. Okay. Now, one of the other questions we were talking about last week, or one of the other topics I should say we were discussing, was

the crazy childhood experiences we had with live music, crazy live music experiences we had as teenagers. A lot of that stemming back to the nineties because that's when a lot of us were, you know, out there getting after it for the first time, but can be from any era. We talked a lot about this in the exclusive section of last week's after Party, Zeth and I. Let's dip into this voicemail from the on this topic.

Hey, Jake, I love the show. I just wanted to be able to say that, like craziest concerts and best concerts ever been to. First time I saw the Roots as a little hip hop kid in early nineties, seeing all of those live music performances doing hip hop was mind blowing. So The Roots were definitely the best live show I saw. But the craziest was growing up in the town where like was real life Footloose. That's where Footloose was filmed in Utah, seeing like Rage against the Machine come in September of ninety six, and having all of the religious folks like telling their telling their parents, don't let your kids go businesses shuttered up town like this little farm town and a rodeo ground, and having

Rage against the Machine come there. No real issues happened at the concert itself. It was a really good show, pretty crazy, but awesome to see. Like the real life situation of religion being terrified of rock and music was pretty awesome. So it might be something you want to check out. Just Rage Against the Machine Spanish Fork, Utah in like September of ninety six.

Love the show, rock and Roll eight to one. Thanks for the call. Appreciate you, man, I wish I saw the Roots back in the day. I never saw them. I'd love to see them now. I guess I did share a stage at a festival when I brought Disgraceland to the stage in San Francisco with Black thought that was a lot of fun. Rage against the Machine in ninety six, So you would have caught them in that tiny little town you're from. I guess at at kind of their peak ninety six, I'm pretty sure they were.

They were on Malla Blues at that point, are just about to be. I'd seen them a little bit early earlier. I saw them in I think ninety two or ninety three. I definitely saw their first Boston show in a tiny club the Ica and South End, and I saw them. Where else did I see Rage? I think yeah. I definitely saw them at Avalon when it was called Avalon, saw them on On All the Blues as well. Vastly different experience in Boston than it was in your footloose town.

But hey, at least you got that crazy experience. Let's do one more voicemail, this one from the two.

To oh one Jake, Jeff two one.

I just want to say I finally caught up. I've been listening to your podcast for I guess close to a year, but I started at the beginning, so now like I'm all caught up, and I'm pretty happy about that. To address your current question, which rock stars or figures in rock and roll fizzled out or or or died way too young right on the precipice of success, I would say that it's tied between two, both having happened in the late nineties. I would have to say Shannon Hoone with Blind Mellon was kind of hurtful.

I thought their music was terrific.

They were just about to blow up. They were highly successful at Woodstock and again, you know, drugs, And I would say that after that, it was probably Brad Newell from Sublime, same thing. They had a seminal album that was absolutely phenomenal and groundbreaking, and I guess he celebrated a little too art.

And and died. But those two affected me, I don't know, for some reason.

They both had a certain vulnert, both the singers had a certain vulnerabilitated.

To them that it was really kind of sad.

You know, it's really a shame because I think if both of them had lived, their bands would have been wildly successful, probably Sublime more so than Blind Melon, but I kind of think they both would have wildly crazy success, and it's really as a shame. Love the show and I'll look forward to talking to you again.

Thank you, Jeff, Thanks so much for the call. I hear you man both there is a similarity team Shannon Shannon Huon from Blind Melon and Brad from Sublime. That and that that tie, the vulnerability tie that you mentioned. I think I think you're honest something there. I think it's I think it's a big part of it's subtle, but it's there and their persona, and I also think, perhaps more importantly, it's it's part of what attracted music listeners to them. It's part of what made them relatable as rock stars. And I also agree with you that I think of the two, I think I don't know if I think that that Sublime and Brad Bradley know would have had a more successful career, but at least it would have been I think it's one that I'm

more interested in having seen progress. And again, I just think that guy was a really really great singer. Not a great singer, but just had a great voice, and it would have been super cool to just hear what became of that, especially because the scene he came from, that southern California kind of punk scene. Just kind of a compelling dude. Appreciate the call. Thanks for calin. Glad you're all caught up with Disgraceland. It's a lot of episodes.

Six one seven, nine, six six six three eight. Voicemail text four one six Jason rights in, Hey, I submitted my Iced Tea Montreal encounter through the portal plus two codas. Sorry so long. I could shorten it, but then it would only be an anecdote. Feel free to edit if you use it. Thanks for making this interactive rock and rolla.

Jason in the four to one six is a Patreon subscriber, and Jason I know had some weird run in with iced Tea as a teenager, I believe, and he teased it out on Patreon, said it was it was too rough and rowdy to share there, and he was gonna hit me up six one seven nine oh sixty six six three eight, and he hit me up. But now it's looking like I guess, he said. He sent it through the portal plus two codas. This is a long tease, Jason, I imagine you talking about emailing you and check that out, Lauren Griffin writes in through the email portal, I guess I'm in the email portal, Jason. I can't find anything, dude. Anyways, Lauren here writes, Hey Jake, my name is Lauren and I started listening to Disgrace And in November twenty twenty

four when I was living in Vancouver, Canada. Since then, I have traveled the world, back home to Ireland and even got an engaged Congratulations Lauren on your engagement. That's pretty awesome, Lauren goes hones say. I'm so happy to say I finally caught up and I'm finally up to speed with the latest episodes. You were my most listened to podcasts last year. It'll probably be the most listened to this year. Or maybe it'll be Hollywood Land because I'm moving on to that next Anyways, just wanted to say, keep doing what you're doing in Hello from the Emerald Island Love Lauren ps. My fiance lived in Boston for a year and is obsessed with the place that it's sports teams. He loves the New England Patriots and is

staying up until four am tonight tomorrow to watch the Super Bowl. Go Pats. Lauren appreciate this, Thanks for the message all the way from Ireland. Happy you're a listener. Happy you're engaged as well. Enjoy the engagement, Enjoy the nuptials. Hit us back, let us know how it went. And hey, you know I you know I've I've officiated some weddings in my day. Just throwing that out there for you, Lauren.

All right, let's move on. Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight voice on text. You guys want to get at me about anything at all, you can also hit me up on Patreon. We're gonna get into some of your some of your responses on Patreon regarding your childhood experiences with live music. Will also hit up some reviews.

And I have.

Got a big pile of crow to eat regarding my new England Patriots coming up right after this. I don't know if you heard that. I just I just spilt water all over my desk, wiping it off with the sleeve of my flannel shirt right now. This is the second spilled water of the d Also have myself a flat tire this morning, so I'm dealing with that it's been a morning, guys, it's been a morning. But you know what, I don't care. I'm grateful. I got nothing but gratitude because this here is the greatest music community on the Internet and off the internet, if I do say so myself. Now, some of you may know, or all of you may know, I'm not sure that we offer exclusive content to our all access members, like the

all access section of this after party, whereas thatth and I will be discussing Kirk Cobean's suicide and the theory that he was murdered, and we're gonna poke some holes in that theory. But last week we were talking about wild concerts from our childhood that was brought on by our coverage of Jane's addiction. Got a ton of comments on Patreon on this topic, and that's that's the best part about Patreon, guys, is the community aspect of it. Okay, if you've been on the about joining Patreon, I'm not gonna make this some big sell. I'm just gonna tell you.

I love engaging with the listeners over there. It's the best getting to know you guys. I love how you guys engage with each other. That's pretty incredible. There's talk circulating about a meetup this year for all of us. Not sure what we're gonna do or where, but I love that, and I just love that we've got this community over there and right now. The topic of discussion is all of your wild experiences as kids with live music back in the nineties, some of the eighties, some of the seventies. Roxane am write's craziest experience in a word, guar Okay, I get it. I get that, Roxanne, I get it. Kimberly Harris writes, got dragged to a Kiss concert one of maybe three people at this whole show, my friend three people. I don't think she means three people,

she says. My friend Kelly had been part of Kiss Nation since she was four. I did move when spewed blood on by Gene, and I definitely moved. I went backstage to meet them, and Kelly and her sister lost it. Half naked and naked women everywhere, and I am the only black person all caps, So I definitely was out of my element in the music in the crowd. But the band was super nice, and I was asked by Gene Simmons playfully how the hell it was that I was at this concert let alone backstage, and my response was that I was dragged along for a girl's night out.

I had a good time, but my friend Kelly and her sister had to be pulled together repeatedly. Kelly's sister did get her all right, I'm getting into that party. Thank Kimberly's got the best stories. Appreciate you. Becky Johnson. Right, Hey, I did get kicked in the face at a Rollins band show. I learned quick that if I was standing in front of the stage to grab the stage driver by the ankles and help them over my face. Were you even alive in the nineties if you were not kicked in the face with a combat boot at a Henry Rowlands show? At a Rollins ban show, Jason Ramsey teases out his iced tea experience. Still looking for that email through the portal, Jason, I'll report back once I get it. Guys, get on the Patreon chat. You don't

need to sign up for five bucks be part of the t You can sign up for a dollar to be part of the chat. Okay, just the buck and you get access to the Disgraceline community to get over there. Get in on that action, and if you can't support financially, we get it. You can always support by leaving a review.

Oftentimes I will read some of the reviews back here to you guys on the show, and when I do, that's a signal to you to get in touch six one seven nine oh sixty sixty six three eight voicemail in text and let me know that you heard your review. And at that point I will ask you a couple questions and I'll get you some merch as a nice little thank you. It's a nice little token of my appreciation.

Now I can't I can't say exactly what that merch might be, but I'm looking at some stickers here on my desk and some pins. I've got some shirts. I got a whole bunch of stuff that was just on earthed. I know I was supposed to mail this stuff out last week. I did not do that. I ended up going to New England for the Super Bowl, and I am I am delayed. What can I say, I'm having Like I said, I'm having myself a little bit of a day here. I had a couple of water and coffee malfunctions, and I got a I got a flat tire and waiting on a tow truck. Come by my house, pick up my car, bring it to the dealership. But I will get merch out shortly to the winners. If you yourself want to be a winner, I encourage you

to go to Apple Podcasts or to Spotify and to leave a review for Disgracelane. It helps with discovery of the show and we are super appreciative of it. Disgraceful. M. Smith nine five seventy nine on Apple podcast Rights. Hey, thanks for all the great content and stories. I'm really appreciative of the music that I have been exposed to because of your platform. I'll go to Apple Music and look up artists that have been subject matter on the show.

I've gotten into more punk and hardcore and I've always been a thrash medal guy and this just adds to my life. Keep it coming. Thank you. M. Smith nine five seven nine. I love that happy you're getting exposed to new music because of Disgraceland. Check out me as a pot in the gits if you have not already, and X ten and xt in on Spotify Rights. I just want to say how much I love this podcast.

I'm such a music girl and as much as I think I know about artists and their stories, you always give me some cool new info. I love sharing with my friends. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You know what. That's what it's all about, getting this new information, new stories, having something to talk about with our fellow music obsessives, whether it's in the Patreon chat, whether it's at the barbecue, whether it's at your next dinner party, whether it's wherever you're standing on the side of the soccer field talking to a mom or dad, and I don't know, maybe they're wearing a Sublime shirt. You want to tell them a little bit about your knowledge of Bradley Nole that you heard here on Disgraceland. We like to say that

this is the podcast that'll make you dangerous at dinner parties. I got to call this out. February thirteenth, that's this week. That was the date back in twenty eighteen. However, February thirteenth, twenty eighteenth, that we released our first ever episode of Disgraceland. That means this podcast is eight years old this week, eight years old. I cannot believe that I was talking to somebody the podcast industry a couple of weeks ago.

And she referred to me as a veteran of the podcast industry. A veteran. I didn't like it. To be honest with you, I don't feel like a veteran. I mean, I don't feel like I've been in this for that long. Everything still feels new to me. Honestly, it all feels like it's growing. I'm still finding ways to be inspired.

I'm still finding stories that inspire me, that make them want to crack the books, get under the hood. I'm Zeth Matt myself. We're still we're still totally compelled to find unique ways to tell these stories, to to do so with audio, to do so with music, scoring, with sound design, and the more of you that come into the space that are new, the more of you that may be listening and decide, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna get involved with the disgrace and community with the discos.

I'm gonna I'm gonna just you know, I just gonna go in there and share, share a little bit about myself, ask some questions on the Patreon or on Instagram or wherever. The more that happens, it just it's fuel, and it makes everything feel fresh and new and itsiting, and it's the greatest job in the world. I was born to do this. So is thatth So is Matt. They're both uniquely talented to bring something special and incredible to Disgrace and to what we do here, to the storytelling. And it is a new year and we've got some awesome stuff in the works for you in twenty twenty six, really going to push everything further than we ever have before creatively. You're gonna be very excited, I promise you.

Just wanted to say thank you to all you listeners. Eight years. I can't believe it. I don't even know how many episodes we have eight years. That's crazy. We got to be around two hundred and sixty episodes at this point. Anyways, much love, much gratitude, Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Stop by Patreon, say hello or just give me a call six one seven nine oh six six six three eight, say what's up? Send me a voicemail. Listen.

I gotta eat some crow here, all right. I got to look, I had all the shit talk in my mouth last week when it came to the Patriots, not the Patriots, the patriots in the Seattle Seahawks. My goodness, man, that game kicked my ass. Kick the Patriots ass. Actually, if I'm being for being for being real about it, So, Matt, before I go any further, let's get this ready. Okay, this is the sixty second sports rant in under thirty seconds sponsored by Five Hour Energy in the return of their confetti craze flavor Bring back Birthday Energy. Wherever you go with this plan your confetti Craze party at www dot five hour Energy dot com or Amazon available now, Matt, give me that buzzer. Look, I gotta, I gotta just say,

Seahawks fans, congratulations. Patriots haters, go f yourself. We will be back. You know what, I can't even go to we'll be back yet. I just gotta. I gotta again. I talked so much crap about this, I just have to say congrats to the Seahawks fans. I was wrong. I thought our coach and our quarterback would overcome what was playing to me as a better team that was the Seahawks. But that did not happen. We got our butts handed to us. We were outmanned, we were out played, we were out coached. It was a supreme butt kicking, and you know, what. I'm not ashamed to say it because we've lost Super Bowls in the past. Here in New England, we've probably lost more Super Bowls and a lot of other franchises have even played in. We're up

to six losses now, okay, and I know we're also six wins, so I know, I know, I know we'll be back. I know we'll be back. And the Pats, I believe maybe playing in Seattle next year. I think the AFC East plays the NFC West next year. I could be wrong. If that's the case, Shay Simpson, I will see you out there and I will buy you some drinks at whatever your stadium's called. I've always wanted to go to that stadium. I always wanted to do.

There's a lot as a handful of stadiums always wanted to go to. That's one of them. So maybe next year will be be the time. And to make up to make up for my sports sins to my Seattle brethren, specifically Yushe, who I talked some crap about here last week. The beers around me, my man, all right, Matt, I know there is no way in h e double hockey sticks that we did that in under thirty seconds, So I'm just gonna say it right now. That was the sports ran sponsored by Five Hour Energies Confetti Craze flavor backed by popular demand, Confetti Craze tastes like the best birthday cake ever with its rich, buttery and vanilla flavors.

Since Five Hour Energy shots are tiny and resealable, it's easy to take that birthday everywhere you go. Planner Confetti Craze Party at www dot five hour Energy dot com or Amazon Available now. Guys, I gotta watch a movie today. I gotta watch a movie today in preparation of our new video podcast. This film should be played loud, which is available for all Access members on Patreon only in that movie that I am watching is Boogie Nights, because that is the soundtrack Zeth and I are going to get into in the next episode of this film should be played loud, which you will all be able to watch via Patreon. Go to disgracelandpod dot com to sign up.

Not only we get this film should be played loud, you'll get all those hollywood Land and Disgraceland episodes add free. Speaking of Hollywoodland, Ze's bringing you to the Hollywood Land vibes weekly. Make sure you subscribe to hollywood Land and the hollywood Land podcast feed. We'll be back right after this. All right, As we mentioned a ton of Disgraceland subjects in this episode, Sublime, Lane Staley, Otis Writing, Jimmy Hendrix, Nirvana, Chris Cornell. Matt will grab the episode notes for a handful of these episodes drop them the show notes of this after priority to help you more easily navigate to those stories should you want to find them amongst our super vast library of content. But alas, it is time for me to go,

so I'm about to take off, But let's recap real quick. Number one this week, our new episode on Miazapata and the Gits is available for you right now. Our rewind episode that's on Lane's Daily from Allison Chains, that's coming up right after this after party. Number three. Next week a new episode on Hunter S. Thompson. Number four is that's going to give you those Hollywood and crime vibes over in the hollywood Land podcast, so make sure you're subscribed.

Number five, This film should be played loud. That's our new video podcast. We've got a new episode on train Spotting that's up right now. We'll get another one on good Fellas, and we're in the process of making a third on Boogie Nights, coming your way at the end of this month. Number six, six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners and music history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers to this week's question of the week, or with whatever else you want to talk about.

Number seven. Don't forget this goes. This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime. It ties them all together, like you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right me as a pot of the gets passed away. On July seventh, nineteen ninety three.

Here's what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard Charts. Number one week by s WV last week two, peak position one weeks on Chart twelve. Number two. That's the Way Love Goes by Janet Jackson last week one, peak position one weeks on Charts eleven. Physician number three. There it is tag teams number last week four, the peak position three weeks on chart number four can help falling in love from sliving should be for last week seven peak position, four weeks on chart nines.

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