Dojo Talks: A Chess Podcast· Folge 169
EP 167 | What Does 3700 ELO Mean?
Mittwoch, 17. September 2025 · 1 h 06
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In this DojoTalks, the sensei argue that 3700 Elo engines are so far beyond humans that they beat elite GMs even while spotting queen/rook/knight odds. They discuss that this gap reframes odds chess, preparation, and training, showing how much headroom remains in human understanding.
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Humans compared to machines in chess strength
Purist view of chess vs. odds traditions
GMs losing to Leela even with material odds
Notable results Naka Fabi Nepo against Leela
Odds games as a learning tool vs. engines
What an 800-point gap from Magnus really means
Computers proving drawish positions still hold winning chances
Engine Elo progress and the question of a plateau