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Dojo Talks: A Chess Podcast· Folge 169

EP 167 | What Does 3700 ELO Mean?

Mittwoch, 17. September 2025 · 1 h 06

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In this DojoTalks, the sensei argue that 3700 Elo engines are so far beyond humans that they beat elite GMs even while spotting queen/rook/knight odds. They discuss that this gap reframes odds chess, preparation, and training, showing how much headroom remains in human understanding.

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Humans compared to machines in chess strength

Purist view of chess vs. odds traditions

GMs losing to Leela even with material odds

Notable results Naka Fabi Nepo against Leela

Odds games as a learning tool vs. engines

What an 800-point gap from Magnus really means

Computers proving drawish positions still hold winning chances

Engine Elo progress and the question of a plateau

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