Episode 16: What is Elon Musk? With Quinn Slobodian and Ben Tarnoff

This week's guests are historian Quinn Slobodian and writer Ben Tarnoff, authors of the new book Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed (bookshop.org/p/books/muskism-a-guide-for-the-p…). Adam talks with them about what Musk is, how he gained so much power, and what we can do to stop him.
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