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Drowned in Sound is music's least apolitical podcast. We meet musicians and campaigners to discover how the music industry shapes society and how fans, artists, and workers can organise for systemic change. Hosted by Sean Adams and Helena Wadia, DiS decodes streaming economics, sustainable touring, climate and tech, workers’ rights, and collective solutions with musicians, researchers, and changemakers. Reminder: Music is upstream from politics.

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  1. Enter Shikari exclusive: Rou Reynolds on why the band goes dormant on 31 December 2027. And what comes next.

    In this week's episode, the first of season seven, Sean sits down with Rou Reynolds, the vocalist of Enter Shikari, for an exclusive conversation recorded weeks after the band announced that they will fall dormant as a recording and perform

  2. Maggie Baird on How Music Can Save The World | Episode 1

    In the first episode of How Music Can Save the World, a new podcast from Drowned in Sound, Shain Shapiro meets Maggie Baird, the mother of Billie Eilish and Finneas and founder of Support + Feed. They start with her musical childhood, from

  3. Introducing... How Music Can Save The World

    Drowned in Sound is thrilled to introduce a new series which will be appearing in this feed. How Music Can Save the World is hosted by Shain Shapiro and produced by DiS founder Sean Adams, who pops up at the end of each episode. Before Shai

  4. Meet The AI Rapper Beloved By The Far-Right - Part 2

    In part two of our conversation with journalists Effie Webb and Harriet Williamson, we move beyond who created Danny Bones and ask what his existence means for music itself. We discuss the irony of a far-right AI rapper borrowing from Black

  5. Meet The AI Rapper Beloved By The Far-Right - Part 1

    What does it take to rack up five million YouTube views in ten months? In this case: a rapper who doesn’t exist, a political party paying thousands for AI-generated videos, and algorithms remarkably good at turning anger into attention. Thi

  6. Blood Red Shoes on their 7th LP, Support Bands, Crisps and Two Decades As a Band

    In this week's episode Sean sits down with Steven Ansell, the singing drummer of Blood Red Shoes. They have known each other for around twenty five years now, since Sean first saw Steven's old band Cat On Form playing to a room of skinny, t

  7. Gig Yap: Robyn, My Chemical Romance, Matt Berninger and Los Campesinos!, and Where to Stand

    What's the best place to stand in the Electric Ballroom if you're under five foot five and don't fancy a six foot stranger appearing in front of you two minutes before stage time? Helena Wadia has worked this out for pretty much every venue

  8. From Paris Hilton to Andy Burnham: Sean & Helena's Lord Brennan Interview Debrief

    Did Sean ask a member of the House of Lords whether the House of Lords should even exist? No. Did he get into proportional representation? Also no... Helena Wadia returns to co-host, and rather than a straight interview this is proper yap o

  9. What can music fans expect from the PM Andy Burnham era? DiS meets Lord Brennan

    Four thousand, one hundred and forty four music fans responded to a single Parliamentary survey, more than any committee inquiry has recorded before. What they said, over and over, is that going to a gig isn't a transaction like any other,

  10. Why Your Favourite Band's Fans Might Not Be Real

    There's a marketing agency that will build your band a small army of fan accounts for about a dollar per thousand views. They post the clips, they seed the captions, sometimes they write the comments underneath too. Until a Substack essay b

  11. Gomez's Tom Gray: How to Fight Spotify in Parliament and Why One Difficult Conversation a Day Is Enough - Part 2

    Spotify paid Joe Rogan over $200 million for his podcast. Then, in 2024, they did it again. Tom Gray has spent the last five years thinking about what that kind of money could do for songwriters instead and his answer at the end of this epi

  12. How Gomez's Tom Gray Ended Up Taking On Spotify in Parliament - Part 1

    How do you go from winning the Mercury Prize to writing music for a CBeebies series about a pig named Hector and a very glamorous chicken named Pru? The answer takes in a Tim Buckley obsession that lasted five years, years of touring Americ

  13. Geoff Barrow (Portishead) Made a Film with a Sleaford Mod and Every Penny Invada Had

    What do you do when everyone tells you that you can't make a film without the right connections, the right funding, the right people saying yes? If you're Geoff Barrow, you spend everything Invada Records has on proving them wrong. And the

  14. Sathnam Sanghera on George Michael: Iraq, Wham!, Empire, Fandom, and The Best Hit Rate in Chart History

    George Michael had the highest hit rate in the history of the US Hot 100. Nineteen entries, eight number ones. 'Last Christmas' has been covered more than four hundred times. Ten years after his death, there's been no big tribute concert, n

  15. Los Campesinos! Part! Two! On Class, Privilege, And The Economics Of Bands vs Solo Artists

    What happens when you can no longer subsidize creativity with a second job? Part 2 of our conversation with Gareth David digs into the real cost of being a musician in 2026: visa fees, tour buses, the collapse of sync deals, and the brutal

  16. You! Me! 10 Million Spotify Streams! How Much?!?!! Why Los Campesinos! Stopped Being Quiet - Part 1

    What do bands actually make from ten million Spotify streams? About £32k... In Part 1 of this conversation, Gareth David from Los Campesinos! walks Helena Wadia and Sean Adams through the numbers and how he felt about Spotify's response. Th

  17. AI & Consent Special with Addison Rae, Dua Lipa and Taylor Swift featuring Dr Hayleigh Bosher

    Helena Wadia and Sean Adams caught up with intellectual property expert Dr Hayleigh Bosher to discuss AI, Addison Rae, ICE, Taylor Swift, deep fakes, trademarks, consent, copyright, Samsung, and Dua Lipa. The episode begins with our reactio

  18. Ticket Touts Rejoice! DiS & Which? React to The King's Speech

    "Disappointing" is the word of the week in the UK music biz, after the UK government seem to have kicked the can down the road on tackling ticket touts aka "secondary ticketing". Why? The King's Speech happened yesterday. The Keir Starmer's

  19. Two Music Fans. One Astonishing Fan-Led Review of Live & Electronic Music

    Over 4,000 music fans responded to the Culture, Media and Sport Committee’s Fan-Led Review into Live Music and Electronic Music and in this week's episode DiS founder Sean Adams and co-host Helena Wadia reacted to this important report that

  20. The UK government promised to end ticket touting. So why hasn't it?

    Before the UK's general election, Labour's 2024 manifesto promised to "put fans back at the heart of events" by ending ticket touting. Then, when in power, the Labour government made confirmed the plan in November 2025. And yet here we are

  21. Movements & Music - Introducing Sounds Like Change

    Drowned in Sound is thrilled to reveal the first series in our new podcast network, with more shows to be announced soon. Hosted by music and social change expert, start-up founder, and campaign organiser Ariana Alexander-Sefre, Sounds Like

  22. Nobody Consented to This: How AI Is Using Artists' Music, Voices and Likenesses Without Permission

    Is AI a human rights issue for musicians? And why isn't the UK government treating it like one? In Part 2 of our conversation with David Martin, CEO of the Featured Artists Coalition, we turn to the question that kept us talking long after

  23. Can £125,000 Make a Difference to the Crisis in Live Music?

    The UK music industry generated £7.6 billion last year. Taylor Swift became a billionaire off the back of a tour. So why are some artists still losing money every time they play a show? That's the question at the heart of this episode, as S

  24. Why Does Electronic Music Sound Like Shoegaze? Art School Girlfriend on Lean In, positive nihilism, and making music for fun

    What does it mean to lean in? Not to your career, not to the algorithm but to the act of making music itself? Polly Mackey, the artist, musician, songwriter and producer behind Art School Girlfriend, nearly walked away from releasing music

  25. What If You Could Taste Music? kwes. on his "dreamy" new LP on Warp

    What happens when a producer and musician working with Solange, Rosie Lowe, Loyle Carner, and Kelela burns out, and a spilled glass of water shows him the way back? Kwes. (Kwesi Sey) has spent fifteen years at the centre of London's most bo

  26. The Grassroots Pledge: Wrestling Instagram, Spotify, and the Arts Council with promoter David Littlefair

    What does it actually mean to be a grassroots music promoter in 2026? David Littlefair joins the Drowned in Sound Podcast to discuss the grassroots pledge he's made with Marrapalooza, the DIY festival in Newcastle's Ouseburn Valley - redire

  27. When Boycotts Work: Arms, Hope and Soundtracking Brexit with Gazelle Twin

    This is a conversation about what happens when artists discover their collective power. In May 2025, electronic artist Gazelle Twin withdrew from her Kings Place residency over the venue's decision to host an arms industry conference sponso

  28. GIRLI on Fighting Back: Activism, Safeguarding & Turning Rage Into a Rallying Cry

    GIRLI joins the Drowned in Sound Podcast to discuss her powerful new single 'Slap on the Wrist, which is a collaboration with recent podcast guest Eliza Hatch of Cheer Up Luv, built on real anonymous survivor testimonies filmed in real loca

  29. Why Hope Over Fear Trumps No Music On A Dead Planet: DiS meets PVA’s Ella Harris

    "My brothers are 20 and they're always like 'we are so cooked.' And I'm just like no we're not. There's hope but you just gotta believe, you gotta believe in something." That quote accidentally captures Music Declares Emergency's strategic

  30. Over A Million Free Tickets: Discover The Ticket Bank's Mission

    Many who otherwise couldn't afford a £40 show, let alone a £300 festival ticket, have accessed gigs because of a new initiative called The Ticket Bank. In this episode, DiS founder Sean Adams meets Jack from Tickets for Good and The Ticket

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