HOW SUGE KNIGHT, J PRINCE, CHRIS AND IRV GOTTI ALMOST CHANGED MUSIC FOREVER-MP3

We got to talk about Jay Prince. He put this in his book. So this is public knowledge. He put this in his book. So shout out to Houston. My man Don Key, if you're listening, that's my guy. We connected on Instagram. Drifted up in Drake style. We got to go to Houston.

I'm going to get Jay Prince on this thing.

Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact.

You heard it here. Prince, we need you, man. You heard it here.

That's a fact.

Shout out to H-Town, man. So Jay Prince told the story. about how he met you in his book, right? Yeah.

Can you tell that story?

He loved me to tell that story, too. Whenever we're around new people, Chris, come on, tell them how we met. But, you know, it wasn't on good terms. And, you know, his legend and his name and reputation precedes him. So when I had found out Irv calls me and says seven days was signed to J Prince. That's one of your producers at the time. Yeah, he was one of our main producers and made a lot of hit records, made a lot of money, and J Prince was basically claiming all the money he made and generated because Seven said that's his money. So if he signed to J Prince...

He's like, collect that money, and then we'll do whatever my deal says I get, I'll take from there. So Jay reaches out, and Irv tells me, you know, you got to go to Houston and deal with Jay Prince. I'm like, great. You know, great. Thanks. Thanks, brother.

Thanks, Irv.

Good looking. Good looking. But, you know, I'm a doger, so at the end of the day, no problem. At the time, Preen was home.

Supreme to Supreme.

Yeah, shout out to Supreme. Hold your head, brother. At the end of the day, Supreme is home, and he was at Beaumont, Texas, going to see his nephew, Prince. And he was coming from there.

That's the federal penitentiary, right?

Federal penitentiary out there. And he calls me and tells, I mean, I call him and tell him I'm going to Houston. Meet me in Houston. He says, no problem. Then I call one of my other brothers out there in Houston, Black. We call him B-1. So I called B-1. B-1's about that life. So I was like, yo, I'm coming to Houston. I got a problem out there. He said, whatever you need, I got you. So I get out there.

He's like, what's happening? He comes, picks me and free him up. And he's like, what's happening? I said, man, who's this J Prince guy? I got a problem. He said, oh, man, I can't do nothing. He's like, that's the big homie. He's like, I can't help you. So, you know, keep it moving. Everyone told me don't go to his ranch.

Jay says, he calls me up while I'm in Houston and says, hey, come meet me at my ranch.

He has a ranch.

He has a ranch. He's a real cowboy. He's a country boy, man. You know, he's the biggest provider of hay.

Yeah, he said that.

Black Angus beef.

In his book.

Nah, people don't know. He's a mogul. He's a real mogul, but he's the biggest real estate owner in Houston. Yeah, he's someone you should talk to. He bought his whole hood. Fifth Ward is his. Jay Prince, you know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, they tell me, I got to go to this ranch to meet him.

I said, all right. So he sends two cars, two SUVs. For Jay, it was all presentation. See, I know this in hindsight now that I'm with, that's my brother. But in the beginning, I'm thinking this is some bullshit. Like he sends two cars, two people in one, four in another, and me and Prem in black. Black's like, I'm going to come with you in case something goes. I'll try and defuse it and stop it. So I was like, all right, bet. So we drive. Again, I just want to give the listeners and the viewers the vision. When you get to this part, we drove for about an hour from where we was at. Then we get to this one part and it says James Prince Estates. And we see it's like a billboard. And we say, okay,

make the right turn. And we drove another 20 minutes.

From the gate.

From that corner to get to the middle of the gate. That's how far, how much land he has.

Good.

And then two more SUVs come down like this path, like dirt path. You see the cloud of smoke. Me and Prem is looking at each other like, yo, it was nice knowing you. No, we was like, yo, it was nice knowing you, yo. But we going to take some booze with us. We ain't going out alone, man. They come four more, and each of those SUVs, we go up to the ranch. And when we walk in the ranch, it was like the yard. It was like you're in Rikers Island in the yard or somewhere. I mean, it was about 60, 70 dudes all over the house.

And I'm like, what the? Me and Preem was looking at each other like, yo, they're going to kill us. So I'm getting frustrated because... He didn't come right out. Like, you know we're here. Where you at? And again, we're only 15 minutes in, maybe 20 minutes the most. So I'm getting frustrated. And I'm like, yo, where's Jay? Who's Jay Prince? I don't even know what he looks like. Like, at that time, I didn't even know what the man looks like. You hear his name and the legend of him.

I'm thinking it's going to be this 6'4, like, dude come out. And then this little dude comes out from the back and says, hey, which one of y'all Chris? And I said, that's me. He said, yeah, come on, let's go talk. I'm Jay. In my head, I'm like, this is what this is all about. This nigga right here. Yo, Jay love it when I tell it, but it's real.

I promise you, it's real. Now, again, I just kept my composure, but I'm feeling the pressure of the room and all the dudes and just the environment. Then when I'm walking to the back with him, You see all the stuffed animals. Not like the ones you want from the fucking carnival. No, real fucking animals that's stuffed and everything.

And it's like, so you see he's a hunter. He's been hunting. Yeah, he's a hunter. And then all the heads is on the wall. And then you go to his desk. And right behind his desk is all the assault rifles. And I'm like, oh, man, this is crazy. You know what I'm saying? And then he wants to talk about $ 28 million that's owed to Seven, and he wants all of that because Seven told him that's all his money, to which I said, not a chance. And, you know, the more I know Jay, the more I understand the move, because the move was really he's going by what Seven told him, but he's a man of his word. So if you say something to him, he's going to make you honor your word. So when I told him that's not it, I'm like, nah, he can't

get all of that. We gave him half. Irv has the other half. It's the producer. And that's it. I said, he doesn't know Jay-Z. He doesn't know J-Lo, Mariah Carey, you know, Mary J. Blige. We do. And I said, that's my money. That's basically what I told you. I said, I don't care what the fuck Sev told you. That's our money. He said, okay. And that was really the end of the meeting. Again, and then we went on after that, became really good friends, and things happened that made us get really close. You know what I'm saying?

But it was a great way, like his, and I told him his image precedes him. So I told him the more he talks or the less he talks, the bigger, you know, that legend grows. So I always tell him, watch, don't get in too much limelight. You know, he put the book out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. and the book did great and he it looked like he was a president if you followed him on the ground because he was in so many places the campaign he went on was legendary like i was like who's your pr guy in the middle of it he uh gets he got involved with the drake and push the t thing it was like this is all happening he squashed it like no drake's not gonna respond they gave me his word he's not responding.

Yeah and we were like They said Drake had to track.

He said if he would have ever released it.

He said you can't do that.

Yeah, we can't. He crossed too many lines. You know, there's only a few people. He's one of the biggest people I ever met.

You say, like strongest.

Honestly, strongest dude I ever met. I give it to Jay Prince. And Preem is a monster, but he's not as strong as Jay in that sense. He wasn't as strong. BMF, like I know T, I know Meech. They wasn't as strong as Jay Prince, in my opinion. And it's just, it's crazy. Like when I seen, like how he has his, not city, that whole state of, you know, he has it.

The Kitakashi, when they, when he was in Austin. Yeah, he was like, yo, they, he was like, yo, they.

Yeah, I tried to fix that with Shadi. Hold your head, Shadi. You know what I'm saying? I tried to fix that with Shadi, man. He said you keep campaigning, eventually you're going to get elected.

That was a hard one.

I used that all the time. That was a hard one. That's real. You keep campaigning, you're bound to get elected. That's a statement. I use that line now. I told him I'm taking it, so he can't get pub on it.

All right, so, but he said in the book, all right, so, you you meet them and then y'all become good good yes and then so y'all have an idea to to have a black owned distribution company for for records with you guys jay prince rap a lot and shook night yes y'all gonna come together east coast down south and that's a that's a crazy trio but um and he said in the book he was like right when y'all was about to get this off the ground and run it everybody just started catching fake cases and all that.

So then that leads to your fake case.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

So what, that distribution channel that you guys were going to start?

Yeah, we wanted to be a major distribution company just like a universal and we was going to cut deals with all of the outlets. You know, I give Suga a lot of the credit. Suga's a super smart man, man. People don't understand him from his business acclimate.

Is he a good dude?

Suga's a predator. Good dude for me, yes. Shug, hold your head. Good dude for me, yes. But we had our ups and downs too. But predators, one thing they respect is that. If you stand your ground, they respect that. If you don't, if you show up... the weakness, they're going to take what you got. They're going to eat your food. And I learned that early from my day.

When I had to deal with Jay, I understood I couldn't show that. And just like with Suge, I couldn't show it. But it all turned, you know, for us, those are all great relationships. Probably the reason why they said, all right, we can work with them. So it was Suge's idea? Absolutely.

It was Suge's idea for this?

Suge was putting it together. And Jay, again, is a super brilliant man. I'm not shading him at all because he is a genius in his own right from a business acumen also. He's very methodical. He's a chess... Like, everyone moves differently. You see how they move. He's a chess player. He doesn't speak much, you know. And Irv is vision, creative, you know, on business. And that's where we was coming together. And when Suge was saying the plays, we envisioned it and seen that it could really work.

And we was like, wow, this is amazing. And then all of a sudden, this indictment, that indictment... And like I said, I don't think that was coincidental. I thought the feds really wanted to learn about the hip-hop culture and what better way to go at it than, oh, these three are getting together. Let's try and chase someone down and shake this tree and see what comes out.

Sam Cooke actually was trying to do something like that. Sam Cooke, that's right. And then they think he's the reason he got killed. Right, like he was seriously gets killed by some random woman. You know, I hate conspiracy theories, but. Some of them are real. It's hard to deny certain things is what I'm saying. I hate it because I like proof, right? I like to know facts. I don't like to talk on speculation. I like to know what's really real. And that's what I mean. But there's so many factors. Even when you talk about, let's say, like holistic doctors and then all of a sudden all these random doctors that got killed or disappeared. Dr.

Sebi.

Dr. Sebi. There has to be some type of connection that correlates to these deaths. So it's like, so yeah, it is a conspiracy theory, but there's a lot of facts too. And you lived it.

So, all right.

So you guys caught the Fed case. So the Feds, if anybody's not familiar.

I don't know how we caught a Fed case, but you know, that's another story.

Yeah.

The Feds, the conviction rate is 97%. You don't beat the Feds. It's almost impossible to beat the Feds. because they put so much pressure on you, they stretch the cases out for so long where you almost got to cop out. That's why the conviction rate is so high because most people just cop out. And usually your money runs dry.

So you guys had the peak of your dominance.

Yes.

You caught a federal indictment. What was that?

I'm going to hit you with the Rick Ross.

So they tied it in with Money Laundry and Supreme? That's what they did?

Well, you know, it was a lot more charges. It got dwindled down due to great attorneys and the right thing. Even the money laundering case was stupid. We was charged with a million dollars in money laundering. Just use your own common sense from there. A million dollars in money laundering sounds like a lot, but at that moment we're paying tens of millions of dollars in taxes. We're paying eight figures in taxes. I was gambling over a million dollars a week. but I'm laundering a million dollars. It doesn't make any sense, right? Just common sense. If I'm laundering the money, I'm trying to turn it clean, right?

Why would I be gambling a million plus dollars?

You're gambling a million dollars a week?

Oh yeah, they got it. It's all documented.

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