375: Every Type of Horror in Fallout | Patron Chat Oct, 2025

0:00 [SPEAKER_06]: Robots radio, games, lore, stories, community, just press play. [SPEAKER_06]: Welcome to the Fallout lore cast. [SPEAKER_06]: The podcast that explores the boundaries of our knowledge about the world of Fallout. [SPEAKER_06]: Wastelanders and Valtowellers, welcome back. [SPEAKER_06]: It is the end of October.

0:29 [SPEAKER_06]: It is spooky week. [SPEAKER_06]: We've got Halloween, as when we're recording this right now, Halloween is just a few nights away. [SPEAKER_06]: And I have my patrons joining me this week to talk about some spooky stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: A topic that gets kind of hit in very specific ways, but we're going to expand it out.

0:45 [SPEAKER_06]: Because we are talking this week about all the different types of horror that you can find across the Fallout series. [SPEAKER_06]: And with me this week, I've got a wonderful cast and guys get ready to unmute and chime in with your best. [SPEAKER_06]: Spooky is sound you possibly can muster.

1:01 [SPEAKER_06]: think about it, think about what might be a spooky sound. [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm just going to call everybody out. [SPEAKER_06]: We've got Void and Pumpkin and Germinator, Ebony Kitty. [SPEAKER_06]: Ash, I'm just shorting that, because that was easier to say. [SPEAKER_06]: Little green, Adam's child, St. G.ub.

1:15 [SPEAKER_06]: And Leviathan, welcome to the chat, everybody. [SPEAKER_06]: On the count of three, get ready to unmute and make your spooky sounds. [SPEAKER_06]: Here we go. [SPEAKER_06]: One, two, three. [SPEAKER_06]: That's awesome. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to clip that and I'm going to put it on repeat on my front porch as tricker cheaters come by and they're all going to be super terrified.

1:37 [SPEAKER_06]: But hey everybody welcome back. [SPEAKER_06]: This is super fun. [SPEAKER_06]: So we've got a list of different types of horror and if there's something that I'm missing on this list feel free to chime in as we get going to be like, oh, whatever. [SPEAKER_06]: about this. [SPEAKER_06]: But we're going to go topic by topic and those of you who have something to say, something to add, a favorite way that they implemented this type of horror or one of their favorite little storylines or characters or whatever.

1:58 [SPEAKER_06]: Feel free to chime in and just off the top of our list so far. [SPEAKER_06]: We've got Lovecraftian Horror, Body Horror, Folk Horror, Sci-Fi Horror, Psychological Horror, Jump scares, Liminal Spaces, [SPEAKER_06]: There's probably more than that, but we'll discover it as we go through the conversation.

2:15 [SPEAKER_06]: But let's kick this off. [SPEAKER_06]: Let's start with the Lovecraftian stuff because everybody loves creepy, Lovecraftian horrors and those kinds of things. [SPEAKER_06]: I can think of a few examples I've covered over the years. [SPEAKER_06]: But I want to hear from you guys who would like to start me off.

2:27 [SPEAKER_06]: Let's start me off. [SPEAKER_06]: That sounds really weird. [SPEAKER_06]: Who would like to start us all off? [SPEAKER_06]: That's also weird to say. [SPEAKER_06]: On this topic. [SPEAKER_06]: Man, it's going sideways already. [SPEAKER_06]: Who wants to talk about Lovecraftian horror? [SPEAKER_06]: I know, I know some of you absolutely love like the done witch boars and that kind of stuff.

2:45 [SPEAKER_06]: Anybody want to chime in? [SPEAKER_06]: Don't be shy. [SPEAKER_06]: I see, I see Pumpkin, maybe? [SPEAKER_06]: Pumpkin? [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I see. [SPEAKER_08]: I guess I'll break it. [SPEAKER_06]: No, I saw Ash and Ash got to. [SPEAKER_06]: Before you did Pumpkin, Ash beat you. [SPEAKER_06]: Ash.

2:56 [SPEAKER_06]: Let's talk about Lovecraftian horror. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I think, yeah, the Dunwitch Bores or Dunwitch Sewers all get the entire, like, um, yeah, the Dunwitch in general, that's that's, and with the, uh, God's, I can't talk tonight. [SPEAKER_00]: That's all right.

3:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, that one side quest in three, um, with the, uh, with the book. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: But then the, whatever, I can't freaking pronounce it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's all right. [SPEAKER_06]: If somebody wants to chime in and help you out, feel free to give it back. [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, so St. James got your back.

3:32 [SPEAKER_06]: What was that? [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: The Chris back enough. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that one. [SPEAKER_00]: I could remember the name of it. [SPEAKER_00]: But like, you know, the different things that you can do with that you can either give it back to the lady or the guy or you can take it and destroy it.

3:46 [SPEAKER_00]: And just, yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: So, done, which, oh. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so let's talk about crafty in general. [SPEAKER_06]: Is this one of your favorite types of horror genres? [SPEAKER_00]: I honestly not a big fan of horror, but I can appreciate the aesthetics of it, but I'm like one of my best friends is the Lovecraft stuff, so I know a decent amount about it.

4:16 [SPEAKER_06]: I say I like it tangent like by association right right yeah there's something that's always fun about like the mysterious beyond the things that boggle the mind right the weirdness of lovecraftian horror and that sort of thing um uh say G. Up do you want to chime in a little bit on this one I feel like this uh you jumped right in on this and you were like I know I know exactly what she's talking about do you have thoughts on this one?

4:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sure. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've been fascinated by, like, the lovecrafts like John, like, again, that cosmic horror for probably going on 15 years now, um, it kind of fit right in because I spent many years watching like Carl Sagan's Cosmos and things like that. [SPEAKER_01]: And that kind of, like, gives you, like, an almost [SPEAKER_01]: idealized version of what the universe looks like, but it never kind of delves deep into, oh, what are the horrors that might exist out there?

5:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's like, you know, the, obviously, the fictionalized and things that, well, crap kind of quote, like, a thulu in all these demonic entities that like, makes exist out into the universe, but those are obviously a, [SPEAKER_01]: You've been a Muslim or a metaphor for just the utter kind of indifference the universe has for us whether it be a black hole or, you know, a supernova something that could just extinguish life.

5:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: So now very deeply fast. [SPEAKER_01]: But why does the fall at universe? [SPEAKER_06]: OK, cool, yeah, your voice broke up a little bit there, but I think we caught it all. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, there's like an existential quality to it. [SPEAKER_06]: This idea, the vastness and the nothingness out there being so all consuming and terrifying, just in that concept, because again, it's mind boggling, that sort of thing.

5:52 [SPEAKER_06]: And actually, I didn't mean to just completely move on to St. Geob, I just kind of want it. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, that's totally fine. [SPEAKER_00]: To get it. [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe both of you feel free to chime in on this. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sometimes I have trouble putting my thoughts into words, so.

6:04 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, me too. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_06]: If I were to livestream me editing and recording the podcast, I have more stops where I go, crap, no better way say that. [SPEAKER_06]: And I start recording it. [SPEAKER_06]: So I do it all the time. [SPEAKER_06]: That's the magic of editing.

6:18 [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, for both of you, is there's something specific and fallout that really hits you the hardest, [SPEAKER_06]: as presented in fallout. [SPEAKER_00]: I think going into the done witch building for the first time and just that like you know something's off and and you like yeah you you run into all the ghouls and [SPEAKER_00]: the ferals and everything that's in there.

6:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you get into that basement and that sub baseman that cave and you're like, oh, that's what's going on here. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, it feels different than just coming across other ghouls in the wild. [SPEAKER_06]: And it feels very staged and like, oh wait, no, this is driving me forward.

7:07 [SPEAKER_06]: And there's something being unveiled as I work my way through this. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Totally. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, polar mist join us too. [SPEAKER_06]: Welcome, polar. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, who also wants to chime in? [SPEAKER_06]: Pumpkin, you had some thoughts?

7:20 [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: So going into the, what's the scariest thing that reminds me? [SPEAKER_08]: It's just knowing the fact that it exists. [SPEAKER_08]: Like it gives you enough to tell you that this is in the world. [SPEAKER_08]: But you have no more info. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, right, right, just a little bit to make you go, what is that?

7:37 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I got you, I got you. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, who has anything else to say on that pumpkin or should we move on? [SPEAKER_08]: I fell down the rat, that rabbit hole couple episodes back. [SPEAKER_08]: If you remember, I told it was like the mysterious characters you were talking about.

7:51 [SPEAKER_08]: I remember falling down that rabbit hole. [SPEAKER_08]: I won't go down that hole. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay, all right, all right. [SPEAKER_06]: Who has other thoughts on lovecraftian horror? [SPEAKER_06]: We also want to chime in on this one. [SPEAKER_06]: No, are we ready to move on to the next one?

8:05 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we've talked about Lovecraft in horror in thought pretty, pretty regularly. [SPEAKER_06]: It comes up pretty regularly, and I've done some episodes on it. [SPEAKER_06]: But you know, one that we didn't talk about too much is body horror. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's another one of the things that comes up, right?

8:17 [SPEAKER_06]: Like totally messed up mutations, and that sort of thing. [SPEAKER_06]: Ebony Kitty's got some thoughts on this. [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think, Ebony? [SPEAKER_10]: So body horror is my second favorite type of horror. [SPEAKER_10]: the my my most memory of body hoard being in fallout is going into the school and fall out three for the very first time and seeing the the body is being mutilated by the writers oh okay with them just like the the body decor that they have [SPEAKER_10]: that in the master being just in a malagamation of flesh and other like voices and everything.

9:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_10]: It followed, followed one, especially with a four game in disguise as a survival game. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think that's a really interesting point to talk about the master and to say that a body horror has been in the series from the very beginning, I mean the main villain of the very first game, you actually get to see him and he's this weird head and his flesh is all strung out over top of like the computer that he's a part of and like it's super weird and messed up for sure.

9:32 [SPEAKER_06]: Void was that your hand did you want to chime in? [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so bunny horror is one of my favorite types of horror. [SPEAKER_07]: I hate the movies because they're, I hate them. [SPEAKER_07]: But, body horror, especially in Fallout, I love. [SPEAKER_07]: With the FVV and everything like that, you've got stuff like, you've got stuff like the Super Mutants and especially the Centaur's.

10:00 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, the Centaur's are a big part of that body [SPEAKER_07]: And honestly, I'd like to see them brought back at some point. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that's what you know with this. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Especially with this Western expansion that we're getting in all at 76. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I see where you go.

10:18 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm burning, burning sands is it? [SPEAKER_07]: Um, but with that, I would like to just more of the FV super mutants, um, centars, and I would have got faster snalligasters. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's another big one because they at one point were human. [SPEAKER_07]: They do not look human.

10:39 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, yeah, same time whatsoever. [SPEAKER_06]: If they have a torso, but then they've got like so many other human parts sticking out of it. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Which one was the originally recognizable as human? [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

10:49 [SPEAKER_07]: But even I would even go so far as goals and scorched as body horror. [SPEAKER_07]: when it goes as well, Ebeneke, he's saying in chat to the zoom call. [SPEAKER_08]: The graph didn't monster. [SPEAKER_07]: Yep. [SPEAKER_07]: All everything, almost everything, we're guarding the FV and even really considering even the mothman, which is just the amputated moth that is in the shape of a man basically.

11:17 [SPEAKER_07]: Like a lot of that is just pure body horror and I love it. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_07]: just any basically anything you can say in fallout would be considered body horror in some sort of regard. [SPEAKER_06]: anything. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you say anything. [SPEAKER_06]: But there's definitely a lot of, I mean, even super mutants on some level are body horror, right?

11:39 [SPEAKER_06]: Like they're extremely. [SPEAKER_06]: Like they're people who have been blown out just weird proportions, right? [SPEAKER_06]: And they even lose any of their gender signaling other than just like muscle mass, which is usually a masculine trait, but like everything else is weird. [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, there's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of body horror [SPEAKER_06]: you know it would be even more disturbing to see more of when I think body horror I don't just think the end result of the thing that got mutated or transformed into something but the the most disturbing parts I think this is just me of course but [SPEAKER_06]: is the transformation part like that's like when you watch a movie that leans into a body horror it's usually the transformation from one thing to another and the agony that the creature goes through during the transformation like that is usually part of the most disturbing part once it transforms you're like oh god that's terrifying but it's the process of getting there and we don't I can't think of too much that we get like we see like bodies and vats we see labs with experiments those kinds of things pumpkin

12:45 [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_08]: Well, 84, you get to see the failed transformation. [SPEAKER_06]: The failed transformations, right? [SPEAKER_06]: Right, but the in-process transformations, like that could be somewhere they go in the future to really like, I don't know, make it feel even more disturbing.

13:00 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and I would even lean into the psyche of the people doing the experiments and watching that because they had to be some sort of sick in the head in order to just be able to watch that and not feel any remorse and just say, oh, yeah, this is a scientific experiment. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, there's all sorts of, there's a lot of stories throughout fall, where you get like the hollotapes or like the, you know, the computer screen with like their notes about the experiment and often times you'll have somebody who's like totally into it and it doesn't affect them at all.

13:29 [SPEAKER_06]: You have somebody else who's like, really starting to question what we're doing here, you know, like back in that side of things, so yeah, there's there's some moments like that for sure. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, anyone else want to chime in on body horror? [SPEAKER_06]: Anybody else, uh, Leviathan, what do you think?

13:47 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know what you guys have, but I found it in relatively cute. [SPEAKER_06]: Which ones? [SPEAKER_12]: Most of them, the master was relatively cute. [SPEAKER_12]: And those, those sent out piece. [SPEAKER_12]: I never played free, but from what I saw on the internet there were relatively cute.

14:06 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, in New Vegas, they, I mean, I see them walk around with their funny limbs and their weird tongue and like, I mean, I guess, you know, when I think about cute, the graphed-in monster is kind of cute. [SPEAKER_06]: It reminds me of the Marvin Martian cartoons and the big furry monster.

14:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Remember that? [SPEAKER_06]: The big furry monster? [SPEAKER_12]: And to Yungro have seen them when they came out, but yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And they came out of the mouth.

14:34 [SPEAKER_06]: Is that what he says, name? [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's Garpsomalia. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh man, that's what that always reminds me of. [SPEAKER_06]: It's just not furry, right? [SPEAKER_06]: Like that guy was furry. [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I think that was like 1940s or something. [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't think any of us were home back then.

14:44 [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, cool stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: Do you have any other thoughts? [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm trying to remember the name of the vault, which vault it was, but I'm referring to fall it for, wasn't it one of them where they were can, it was the one where they had like the pink ooze underneath the school and it correct me if I'm wrong, but they were basically, they were converting basic people into basically food for people to eat, which I, [SPEAKER_01]: And my own mind, I kind of see that as a foreign body horror where it's like a soil and green kind of situation where you're just recycling people and just force feet in the back to each other.

15:19 [SPEAKER_01]: If you told people like, oh, that's what you're actually eating, that would horrify me. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't think I could live with myself. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was eating like a neighbor. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but what if it was delicious? [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, hey, fuck. [SPEAKER_01]: you put a little salsa on it, maybe deep fried and then we'll talk it.

15:40 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean anything fried is good, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Serve up the county fair and I think we can make something happen. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: There you go. [SPEAKER_06]: There you go. [SPEAKER_06]: Alright, time to move on to something else. [SPEAKER_06]: Unless anybody else has any thoughts on body horror.

15:52 [SPEAKER_06]: I think we've covered this one pretty well. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, let's move on to full core and the example of this was like, um, I mean, the Mothman would be an example of this, right, cryptids, that sort of thing, old folktales that come to life. [SPEAKER_06]: Anybody have any thoughts on these?

16:08 [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of this, a lot of, when I think of cryptids, that's like Fallout 76, it was added much more recently compared to a lot of the other series. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm kidding. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I just got to say praise, Mothman, praise, praise the Mothman. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I think the folk or is awesome.

16:26 [SPEAKER_08]: And it's not just like in, [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it's mainly seen in 76, but you see it a lot in a lot of other places, but 76 is the main one where you see a bunch of like the stories about all of the different cryptids. [SPEAKER_08]: And I think one of the best ones that I could probably talk about is Indrid Cold, who is a random encounter, and he even talks about all the other ones.

16:48 [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Indrid Cold is actually, [SPEAKER_08]: I recommend the book, the book, the Mothman Prophecy's mainly follows the story line of Indred Cold. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: So. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: More information on that.

17:03 [SPEAKER_08]: I'd recommend reading that. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I had Dave Chafin's talking about that in the episode while back. [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, that's that's always good stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: Have any kitty? [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_10]: You technically have [SPEAKER_10]: because it was an urban myth that was around before the bomb dropped.

17:28 [SPEAKER_10]: And it wasn't until you go into the simulation that you get to play, you might find a slasher out. [SPEAKER_06]: Like me, and again, whoever's in the background talking, and it's okay, it's a little distracting. [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I get your point though, like this idea of like this was an old tail.

17:45 [SPEAKER_06]: They like this is now playing out. [SPEAKER_06]: That's kind of similar to what was the mansion that's like the Winchester mansion in New York world. [SPEAKER_06]: I did a grandchester grandchester. [SPEAKER_06]: That was the name of it. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, same kind of thing, right? [SPEAKER_06]: Like this idea of an old story about a little creepy girl and now she's a ghost and it's this weird mansion and it's laid out all funny, right Can you continue to talk?

18:10 [SPEAKER_06]: I just and just wanted to note that we could hear stuff in the background [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, um, that was my that was my point, uh, besides the the swamp people swamp people look out. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's another one. [SPEAKER_06]: That's a good one. [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't thought about that.

18:23 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, swamp people super creepy, but uh, it kind of, that kind of borders on lovecraftian because you've got like stories from lovecraft where like the people in the bayou and the weird stuff going on there kind of that's a kind of a blend of the two little bit of folk, a little bit of lovecraft.

18:39 [SPEAKER_06]: When you guys think folklore is there anything else in the series that pops out at you? [SPEAKER_08]: The, oh god, the uh, the survivalist, the how the people look at the survivalist from honest hearts. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: It's not horror.

18:54 [SPEAKER_08]: It's still like it's a folk thing in the octales. [SPEAKER_08]: For the people, that's horrifying. [SPEAKER_08]: For the survival, he's helping the people right for fire right right like this mysterious stranger shows up in my opinion. [SPEAKER_08]: I would do the the question about the the y'all goi bear the specific one for the get the y'all goi glove I can't remember the name.

19:19 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, what was the name of the bear? [SPEAKER_06]: Isn't it like Steve? [SPEAKER_06]: I think [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, oh crap, I forget name so easily that's horrifying because like you just walk it through the desert and you're fighting off hordes of y'all Why yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, and there's there's the out guy there's also I mean there's other cryptids, but there's of course What was the name the name the real long skinny long guys in 76 [SPEAKER_06]: I can't think of what they're called when to go's yeah when to go's that's the word Yeah, when to go's and there's like that there's like the one story about the guy turns into the wind to go in the cave There's that whole thing [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

19:58 [SPEAKER_12]: All right. [SPEAKER_12]: For Elias. [SPEAKER_12]: No. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, the Colossus. [SPEAKER_06]: The big one. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if that one. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it does play off of the Earl. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: It plays off of the the wind to go think that that that's another one of those that like it plays off of the the full core of when to goes, but then also brings in body horror.

20:15 [SPEAKER_06]: I guess when to goes by default. [SPEAKER_06]: Have a little bit of body horror associated. [SPEAKER_06]: But it like turns it up to 11 right. [SPEAKER_06]: The big monster looking dude. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: That's another good one. [SPEAKER_06]: Any other full core. [SPEAKER_06]: That's just the ghost story type stuff, too.

20:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But say, yeah, probably I should go into like the Salem kind of area and fall it for when you actually go to like that old like you know, uh, that old church and like obviously the death clause inside, but you go through and you realize the heritage of like Salem, you know, Massachusetts and what went on there, that definitely is like a folklore, even though it doesn't turn to be a witch, turns to be a death quote.

20:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That still invokes the same kind of fear that people probably had when it comes to like the folk, you know, mystery and the tales you'd hear about that. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, the witch trials and all of that. [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of the, I don't know, the mystery around that era. [SPEAKER_06]: And on top of it, when you think back to the founding of the country and how much land wasn't settled, and so for the colonists to be showing up in the middle of a place where they have no idea what is out there in the dark is kind of harkens back to that kind of feeling, which is cool.

21:22 [SPEAKER_08]: There's the event campfire stories, which literally tells you the story of how the when to go you fight at the end of the event turns into the when to go. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, go ahead. [SPEAKER_07]: Would the mysterious stranger count his spoke or maybe because there are rumors throughout the U.S. of him appearing in multiple places at once.

21:48 [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe, I think, yeah, I think it plays off of similar kinds of concepts that do show up in full core, even if there isn't a specific one, but it's that same kind of thing. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Unless it would be more counted out toward the Kathulu guy. [SPEAKER_08]: Lovecraft, it would be caught more cosmic than lovecraft, even though those kind of blend in the same thing.

22:10 [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, there's these boundaries where I think we're starting to discover that these boundaries are like, kind of, the mysterious stranger himself [SPEAKER_08]: of them. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: A germinator. [SPEAKER_06]: I saw your hand come up.

22:23 [SPEAKER_06]: You wanted to add something, right? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, what about the, uh, one of the, my slant book. [SPEAKER_04]: What is that? [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, into plastic. [SPEAKER_04]: Is that brings in some very weird things in some places? [SPEAKER_06]: It does. [SPEAKER_06]: It does.

22:38 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we'll get to the alien stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: That's, that's part of it. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, but some ghost stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm trying to think of all the wild wastelands stuff that does show up all you're there. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, there are some weird, like weird oddities that do show up from that.

22:52 [SPEAKER_06]: If anybody has any more thoughts on that, then I aren't coming to mind right now if you'll fruit a chime in. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I honestly, I was going to, I'm not someone else that said it, but honestly, like the Satan's, like the aliens, I can't think of anything more. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's say in living in America, if the idea, like UFO's things that I'm [SPEAKER_01]: that's partly fits into the idea of folklore.

23:15 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think where you go in the U.S. there's some storm being abducted by aliens, at least the mics just rest in. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, for some reason you're I do keep cutting out. [SPEAKER_06]: I wonder if it'll be better if you turn off the video if you'll get more bandwidth for your audience Yeah, but we're catching most of that basically you're saying Stories of aliens and abductions specifically and weird sightings and things like that play into the folklore of a lot of different locations across the U.S Heck, I mean you can even talk about the What's it called the site out in what is it Nevada New Mexico New Mexico [SPEAKER_06]: uh... brass well roswell i mean that was nineteen forty-seven whatever so nineteen forty-seven but it's now part of our you know kind of folk story consciousness like was it a weather balloon was it an alien who knows that kind of thing so yeah so let's transition into that let's transition into the sci-fi or i think primarily

24:09 [SPEAKER_06]: For me, the sci-fi horror in Fallout is the Zatons, and the fact that that was just being hinted at for so long, it was kind of this Easter egg thing of like, oh, there's this crash spaceship, or maybe you can find a laser pistol or the bodies in, you know, one or two, like that kind of thing, but then when you get to mother ship Zeta, like you're on a freaking ship, and you get to actually see them, but some of what we find out is that they've been abducting people for centuries, and that opens up a whole [SPEAKER_06]: or the nature of what would it be like to not just be abducted by them but to be like contained and displaced in time by several hundred years.

24:51 [SPEAKER_06]: That's kind of its own thing, right? [SPEAKER_06]: Anybody have thoughts on this one? [SPEAKER_08]: Pumpkins ready to chime in again, go ahead. [SPEAKER_08]: So, and this isn't really Satan's sci-fi. [SPEAKER_08]: This is, I think [SPEAKER_08]: Robo brains or fortifying. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, okay, so that that's like sci-fi the human brain in a robot right right that's like a sci-fi body horror existential issue yeah [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

25:17 [SPEAKER_08]: That's not a fun thought for me. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: And the fact that, okay, here's what's most terrifying to me about Rogue Rains is not the idea that like somebody of their own volition is going, I'm getting old. [SPEAKER_06]: My body's falling apart.

25:30 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to take my brain. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to put it in a machine so I can live on long curve. [SPEAKER_06]: inside this machine, right? [SPEAKER_06]: And they're just okay with that. [SPEAKER_06]: It's the idea that in some locations and follow you have manufacturing centers that have robobrain type machines that are running the machinery, they're using brains as ways to do manufacturing.

25:52 [SPEAKER_06]: That seems even more terrifying. [SPEAKER_06]: Adam [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you're talking about the robber brains and their constant existence, even some going as far as living several hundred years, it makes me think of Nuke World and the CEO of Nuke [SPEAKER_05]: forever until you find him and you are given the option to either continue his suffering or edit.

26:29 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, right. [SPEAKER_06]: It's almost similar to house. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, house's body is basically useless by the time we meet him. [SPEAKER_06]: He's just kind of stuck in this like machine, keeping him alive. [SPEAKER_06]: But is that really that different than a robobrain kind of, the end of Nuka Cola kind of thing?

26:46 [SPEAKER_06]: It's, I mean, at some, on some level, if your body's not able to do anything, it's not relieving that different. [SPEAKER_06]: Do you guys find that terrifying, compared to some of the other things that we've talked about? [SPEAKER_06]: I see some nodding. [SPEAKER_06]: I see nodding. [SPEAKER_06]: Our audio listeners are going to be like, I don't know how they responded, but...

27:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that concept does terrify me because from most of the times, like you were segmenting, like becoming a Robo Brain is not the person's choice, and there's also the fact that I know, I think in some instances, they try and wipe the subject's brain. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's just like, is it will there be a time where like that maybe that fails and you wake up and you're that and it's just like they're like you're that there's nothing that you could do so yeah yeah it's it's just it's terrifying the things like just like something that like that was thought for this universe yeah yeah so I would like to combat you a little bit just a little [SPEAKER_07]: Please do come on multiple you're going to take it like I'm kidding Yes, I'm going to come to some lives in attack and pistol now There it's so there I think it's like one vault.

28:04 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't remember which game but It's an entire vault of all robo brains because they were all rich Pricks basically for like a better word that just wanted to live forever vault four has that well is that what pumpkin's telling me [SPEAKER_07]: where they're only four ball out for far harder.

28:23 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: So thanks for a good a bunch of rich people just wanted to become rubber brains and live forever in this lavish ball. [SPEAKER_07]: And so they did that. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, I don't remember what else I was going to say. [SPEAKER_07]: It's okay, that's cool. [SPEAKER_07]: If it comes back to me, I'll get into it.

28:40 [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, get that on to that because there's another vault from the early games of nothing but brains and jars who were supposed to be all the rich people, not rich people, all the smart people that went insane. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, there's a there's a there's a number of different brains removed from their bodies showing up.

28:55 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the TV show you had it, right? [SPEAKER_08]: What I'm getting at is don't remove your brain from your body. [SPEAKER_06]: Keep your brain in your body, please. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: Because I think the other thing that would terrify me, if I found that like how long am I going to live for?

29:09 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the biggest thing is like, it's just like, like it's like the being stuck. [SPEAKER_02]: And also, I just saw Ebony Kitty and the the the chat saying like what if you're moving around like you're actually like have some freedom and like you break down in the middle of nowhere.

29:27 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's just like just the just the things you don't want to think about. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, plus your brain continues to age even if your body is going to the body isn't it? [SPEAKER_02]: So like what happens when like the robot keeps you alive, but your brain is failing.

29:44 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, Adam's shot. [SPEAKER_06]: I saw that you wanted to respond earlier and then I saw Leviathan. [SPEAKER_06]: So let's jump to you and then Leviathan. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so when we were talking early about the robber brains and them uncontensentially having their brains put into a robot, it reminded me of since, because the Institute, uncontensational, under the words, uncontensentially took people's brains, minds, memories, personalities out of who they were and came to a body that they are.

30:16 [SPEAKER_05]: now wondering if they're unfamiliar with it. [SPEAKER_06]: Right, like, copy them into a synth body, and are they still the same person or are they not, like the whole Nick Valentine story, all of that stuff? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's, that's its own other sort of horror. [SPEAKER_06]: It's like your own personality, I think it's pulled out, is that still you, even though it's not attached to any of your original organs, your brain, any of that stuff?

30:39 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_06]: Leviathan, what do you think? [SPEAKER_12]: think terrifying part is not having your mind wiped because if your mind gets wiped it's just gone. [SPEAKER_12]: The terrifying part is if it's only half wiped, meaning you're still there but you have zero control over your body.

30:54 [SPEAKER_12]: You're just there seeing what happens and being a copilot in your own life. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, capable of ending it, ending your own life killing yourself or just doing anything. [SPEAKER_06]: Right, right, it's like the worst prison ever. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Now, this is all very, very, very terrifying.

31:19 [SPEAKER_06]: Any other thoughts on this? [SPEAKER_06]: This one got a lot of traction. [SPEAKER_06]: You guys seem really into brains, being removed from bodies and loss of control of yourself. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, let's move on. [SPEAKER_06]: We've got a few others. [SPEAKER_06]: Psychological, I mean, this plays into psychological horror, but they're like the big example of psychological horrors.

31:37 [SPEAKER_06]: the majority of vaults that exist are doing something that psychologically is tormenting somebody in the vault if not the entire vault. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean we could go through the whole list of vaults but we don't have all night but is there anything specific about the psychological horror in fallout that that you guys want to talk about items tribe?

31:57 [SPEAKER_05]: This was the category I was waiting for. [SPEAKER_05]: So [SPEAKER_05]: all of Far Harbor, literally you have three groups and they are all dealing with a existential crisis, you have the fog which [SPEAKER_05]: that children of Adam worship and want to use it for destruction. [SPEAKER_05]: So you're constantly in fear of being blown up by their base, which is an option.

32:25 [SPEAKER_05]: You have the harbourman who are constantly in fear of that. [SPEAKER_05]: and then you have Arcadia who are constantly in that crisis of who am I and even Dima, yeah, he was so caught up in a crisis that he erased his own memories and hit them from himself so he didn't have that burden of the mental strain.

32:58 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay, so it's not just involves, but in locations like that, I'm in fact a lot of the DLC locations have some form of psychological trauma happening somewhere. [SPEAKER_06]: I think you could you could you could call that for sure. [SPEAKER_06]: Polar mist, you jumped in a little bit late.

33:13 [SPEAKER_06]: I want to make sure you get a chance to chime in here. [SPEAKER_06]: Do you have any thoughts about psychological horror or anything else that we've covered so far? [SPEAKER_09]: So with the psychological horror, honestly, thinking about it, I feel like diamond sitting because you're living [SPEAKER_09]: constantly being pulled, your neighbors are sent, yeah.

33:31 [SPEAKER_09]: And like just that fear of not knowing if you're, why if you're a sister, you're a daughter, like any of them could just be a synth and you'd never know, like that would be terrifying to be stuck in a situation like that. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, because you have no way to know for sure.

33:50 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it harkens back to, I don't know, things like the communist panic in the United States in the 1950s, like your neighbor could be a communist and you'll never know, like that kind of thing, pitting people against each other and I mean, how can you even say we're going through some of that today?

34:07 [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, that's definitely part of it. [SPEAKER_06]: Germinator, do you have thoughts? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, um, also wanted to point out that, um, you also have a couple of vaults of a combination of, um, uh, body horror, psychological horror and what else do we have, folk horror as well as lovecraft in horror.

34:29 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, just look at vault 22 in your Vegas. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, remind us about what that was because I don't keep a running tally of all the numbers in which one coincides with which. [SPEAKER_06]: So what would it happen to 2022? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, 22 was the one where they had those elections, I'm pretty sure.

34:46 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, right, right, right, right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the, yes. [SPEAKER_06]: And that was 11. [SPEAKER_04]: It was 11. [SPEAKER_04]: Was it 11? [SPEAKER_04]: 11 has a little bit of a claim. [SPEAKER_04]: There you go. [SPEAKER_06]: Pumpkins might go to, guys, whenever I, whatever I need to know with number, I'm going to make stories.

34:59 [SPEAKER_06]: Coming sides with which, because I don't keep, like a running list in my head, but yeah, the whole election thing, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, who do you trust? [SPEAKER_06]: And what, you know, like, yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: But yes. [SPEAKER_04]: Also, Vault 22 with the plants.

35:12 [SPEAKER_06]: Plants too. [SPEAKER_04]: That was. [SPEAKER_04]: That gave me a couple of jumpscares when I first played it. [SPEAKER_04]: a decade and a bit of a good that was certainly not my favorite place to go to. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, jumpscares are another piece of this, but we'll get to that in a minute.

35:26 [SPEAKER_06]: I think that there's a real quick to throw my own thing in here and I'll get back to you, Logan. [SPEAKER_06]: I think that there's even outside of the vaults, even just living in the wasteland. [SPEAKER_06]: The idea that like a radar gang could just come up to your [SPEAKER_06]: camp, your farm, whatever, and no morals will do whatever they want to you and you've got your trust to shotgun and maybe a dog and maybe your neighbor show up and if you can't fend them off, good luck.

35:53 [SPEAKER_06]: There's just something psychological about this idea that not just the world is dangerous, but other human beings have that much potential for causing terrible things to happen and they could just be out there somewhere, you know, like that's just terrifying. [SPEAKER_02]: I think the one vault that like kind of sticks out of my mind, like I don't know if you consider it canon or not, is the puppet vault.

36:18 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he right. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But it's just like how diabolical is it just like, you know what? [SPEAKER_02]: This guy's going to be here for the rest of his life. [SPEAKER_02]: Let him lose his mind. [SPEAKER_02]: But two pop with a box full of puppets.

36:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Why like what who who would even think of that but um, yeah, it's but also like just piggybacking off of like like the world and like it's just like the world and the people is just like It's hard to wrap your mind around how bad people can be I guess [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, and what's what's even crazy about all of that is that we have plenty and I always always draw connections and fallouts of real world stuff because it makes it feel real.

37:02 [SPEAKER_06]: There are very many real world situations where terrible things that happen fallout have happened in real life. [SPEAKER_06]: Mass murder, all sorts of terrible, like horrible things. [SPEAKER_06]: We don't have to go through the whole list. [SPEAKER_06]: Ash has some thoughts. [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think Ash?

37:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And talking of vaults that terrify people, though one that personally terrifies me the most, just thinking about it is the one where it's one woman in like 99 men or something like that. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Like as a woman that would legitimately terrify me. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely, absolutely.

37:38 [SPEAKER_06]: And the flip side is just as terrifying. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean both of the scenarios are no good. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: yeah and on top of it like you would be necessary for the survival of your vaults and nobody can identify with you on the same way on the same level because you're the only one of your gender in like there's just you know or sex uh... like it oh my god yeah no that would be absolutely terrifying [SPEAKER_06]: 100%.

38:04 [SPEAKER_06]: Adam, I don't know what to call you for short names yet. [SPEAKER_06]: Adam feels like he's the name Adam instead of Adam, but go ahead. [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, I just really wanted to put really quickly wanted to put this in there. [SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe out of all the vaults and thinking about psychological horror, we haven't even brushed on the um, [SPEAKER_05]: the virtual vault where everyone's stuck in the dream scape with the dictator that is constantly torturing and killing them over and over and over again erasing the memories and doing it all over again until eternity yes terrifying terrifying stuff for sure what what was that pumpkin he's putting fingers up one 12 I'm pretty sure there you go nobody knows

38:51 [SPEAKER_06]: Is that because you are Stanislaus Brown, and you are, you're, you're the, No, but no, again, nobody knows that vault way better than I do. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, yeah, we're just nobody tonight. [SPEAKER_06]: We're just, we're just nobody. [SPEAKER_06]: Cool, all right, let's move on. [SPEAKER_06]: We got a few more things to talk about.

39:07 [SPEAKER_06]: We've got jump scares. [SPEAKER_06]: I thought this was interesting, because it is a type of horror, a jump scare, right? [SPEAKER_06]: It's something that's very, very used in video games and movies to really, like, [SPEAKER_06]: get you when you're not expecting something or even when you are expecting something sometimes that's even worse.

39:23 [SPEAKER_06]: Are there specific jump scares can fall out that you can think of pumpkin is that a two for vault two? [SPEAKER_08]: Any death claw really? [SPEAKER_08]: Any time at least at least three in new Vegas. [SPEAKER_08]: They were scared me more than Ford and 76 did. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, those models are somehow a little bit [SPEAKER_08]: they they they could just come out of nowhere no music would be playing and you just you're chunch chunch chunch chunch yeah yeah yeah Leviathan what do you think?

40:00 [SPEAKER_12]: One kind of horror that I can't handle jumpscares, Fallout 4 ghouls, and in the Witches Museum in Fallout 4, the Death Club. [SPEAKER_12]: Not the Death Club itself, but the fact that you're walking through the corridors and behind every last corner you expect it to jump you. [SPEAKER_12]: every last time.

40:22 [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_06]: And the way the ghouls will just like throw themselves at you sometimes. [SPEAKER_06]: I see this. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Ash, what do you think? [SPEAKER_00]: The the very first time that I played Fallout 4 and you get to was it conquered?

40:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a conquered with the museum of freedom. [SPEAKER_00]: And get the many gun and you jump down, you get all the raiders, and then, oh, just out of the friggin' sewers, comes that death claw. [SPEAKER_00]: I almost crap a pants. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, it's a great moment.

40:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you're expecting it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: The next time you play, you restart and then you're expecting it. [SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes it still gets you. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you forget. [SPEAKER_06]: Some people have criticized Fallout 4 because they give you a, you know, power armor and a death claw.

41:06 [SPEAKER_06]: It's in it right there, right at the beginning of the game. [SPEAKER_06]: If you go that route. [SPEAKER_06]: But I think it's a, I think it was actually really smart because it tells you, hey, there's really cool stuff you can find in this world. [SPEAKER_06]: This one's limited. [SPEAKER_06]: You're probably not going to be able to use it very long.

41:22 [SPEAKER_06]: there's things that are unexpected and you never know what's going to happen because the deathclaw just came out of the ground and so that makes you question everything from that moment on. [SPEAKER_06]: I think that was really, really smart. [SPEAKER_06]: So that's my thoughts on that one.

41:34 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's a good one. [SPEAKER_06]: I got one more hold on hold on. [SPEAKER_06]: St. G. up St. G. up as the stands up first. [SPEAKER_06]: So we're going to go to the him first in the army. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say probably in 187 actually in Fallout 3 when you're coming out with the gack and all the Sunday on-play of ambushes you.

41:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say this probably will go to the early exams. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I did not completely expect it and they just completely wipe you out and take you away. [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say that's probably the classic example of a jump scare. [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

42:00 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: And it was kind of like a plot thing too. [SPEAKER_06]: So you weren't expecting that to just like happen. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was cool. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm good. [SPEAKER_08]: Any Raider with a fat man? [SPEAKER_08]: or the superman system for that run at you with the ticking bombs yeah that's not much about jumpscare that's psychologic yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but but a but a but a but a greater with the with a fat man you can just be walking in next thing you don't [SPEAKER_07]: Big explosion any any scorched with the M what is it?

42:34 [SPEAKER_07]: M82 40 millimeter grenade launcher like I So many for the love of Christ This is haunting you in your dreams. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, stately. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I did not know those suicide super mutants existed the first time Yeah, the thing popped up from behind me. [SPEAKER_11]: I died without warning [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

42:58 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: The first thing we come across them is terrifying. [SPEAKER_06]: Polar mist has has a hand up. [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Honestly, the first time I found out the super mutant with the many new, I was I just heard that taking like the time from the many new and I turned around and I'm just dead.

43:16 [SPEAKER_09]: And it took me so off guard. [SPEAKER_09]: I had to take a minute. [SPEAKER_09]: No. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Superman. [SPEAKER_09]: Do you want many new sorts, freakin' terrible? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Comacazzi, Superman. [SPEAKER_06]: That's, I think that was another one of those genius things they added to four, because that was great.

43:33 [SPEAKER_06]: Logan. [SPEAKER_02]: So that mine for that sticks out to me the most is, and for the first time you I saw the myrler queen, and just calming up out of the water, and I'm just like, that is the biggest thing I've ever thought. [SPEAKER_02]: Yet, and any of these get, I'm like, yeah, cause I mean, like that the super mutant gliaths, I mean, yeah, they're big, they're slow, so like they're easier to deal with, but like that thing is, [SPEAKER_02]: That I'm not expecting that.

44:03 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you put some bullets into it and you're like, a hat's all. [SPEAKER_06]: That's, oh, that's nothing. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just telling you, if you're going to have nothing up, I'm going to have nothing up, I'm going to have nothing up, I'm going to have nothing up. [SPEAKER_06]: Right, right.

44:12 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, fortunately, you can just kind of run away, but yes, yeah, but the idea of like, and I had a similar experience where I was like, I had to have to go back. [SPEAKER_06]: I have to kill this thing, but I'm going to come back prepared. [SPEAKER_06]: So I'll just take a minute on that one.

44:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, jumpscares the psychological horror of the job scare or the thing running at you with the ticking bomb all of that Also very very cool. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, final one because we're getting close to the ending episode here Liminal spaces and pumpkin you added this to our list. [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think about this one?

44:41 [SPEAKER_08]: So the only one that I don't think really had it was fall out for because like fall fall forward was very like there's a lot of things going on there but um fall out three new Vegas and early 76 I would say would be a like a very liminal which is to those listening it is a space that you that looks [SPEAKER_08]: out of place, it feels familiar and foreign at the same time.

45:10 [SPEAKER_08]: It feels familiar and foreign. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a place that you'd think of. [SPEAKER_08]: There should be people here, but there are. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: It looks. [SPEAKER_08]: It feels like there's like it's been lit, not lived in, but like, use like a lot of people use it, but there's nobody around.

45:26 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Early 76 did feel like that because there wasn't anybody else around. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Unless you ran across another player. [SPEAKER_07]: I can click the button, the mannequins, they're everywhere. [SPEAKER_07]: They look like people, they look like they should be people, but there's no one around them.

45:51 [SPEAKER_07]: And nobody to position them in these particular spaces. [SPEAKER_07]: This could also count as supernatural, yeah, because supernatural or cosmic, right? [SPEAKER_07]: because I might, my firm belief with these mannequins is that at some point in the future, they're gonna turn into the weeping angels from Dr. Who.

46:13 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, right, we've been moved and they follow you when you're not looking exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: How many times did you see like a mannequin in the distance when you're in a creepy situation and just shot it? [SPEAKER_06]: And we're like, oh wait, that wasn't every time, right?

46:25 [SPEAKER_07]: Every time, it's like, I am legend. [SPEAKER_07]: when the mannequin is just out in the street. [SPEAKER_07]: And he's like, if you're real, you better let me know right now. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Ash, we've got a few people raising their hands. [SPEAKER_06]: Let's go to ash.

46:38 [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, first of all, I think you might be thinking the botans, those were the mannequins, inductor who that turned it, that would kind of move around. [SPEAKER_07]: No, I'm talking about the weeping angel. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but I'm talking about the man nervous, creepy in the weeping.

46:52 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're both creepy in similar ways, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: I know, I know. [SPEAKER_08]: They're very creepy in similar ways, but they don't do that. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: But I'm just getting it, like he's expecting the fallout mannequins to turn into the weeping angels.

47:04 [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway. [SPEAKER_00]: And, don't know, let's be trying, no, no, no, no, I have it, um, from the perspective of like the player character in game, walking back into sanctuary for the first time after coming out of the vault, like just imagine what Nate or Nora are thinking in that moment, like, no, there should be people here, this we lived here, this was a place that was lived in, [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so yeah, just like, from their perspective, walking back in a sanctuary for the first time after coming out of the bowl.

47:42 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, right, and the whole rest of the world, even after that, places that they would have been found for a million, but looked similar yet so different at the same time. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, Leviathan. [SPEAKER_12]: First of all, I think all of us put more bullets into those things than in actual monsters.

48:00 [SPEAKER_06]: Probably. [SPEAKER_12]: And second, this is half this team theme. [SPEAKER_12]: If you enter a room or an open space and you see a safe point, munition and healing packs. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: It terrifies every last one of us because we know what it means. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, the typical video game trope of like, [SPEAKER_12]: at that nothing happens.

48:24 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Sometimes. [SPEAKER_08]: I've I've thought about like what could be good examples of like in Fallout specifically what could this be and one of them does actually come from for even though I said not a lot like they fought for doesn't have a lot it's the um there's a little like call the shack that you can find.

48:41 [SPEAKER_08]: that was told, and by a line from pressing, you learn there used to be a settlement here, what happened to it. [SPEAKER_08]: And it's just, when you first enter the town, all you see are two y'all guys. [SPEAKER_08]: That's all you see. [SPEAKER_08]: Everything else is just abandoned until you find the last house where there's ghouls, but that doesn't still doesn't explain what happened.

49:04 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, right, that miss. [SPEAKER_08]: My whole thing is like, it's empty. [SPEAKER_08]: There's no one around. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and there is a mock for new Vegas that actually adds the back rooms. [SPEAKER_08]: I definitely recommend checking it out. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't remember the name of it, but yeah.

49:19 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, new Vegas back rooms. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: St. G. has the hand up. [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, can you hear me? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I guess my go to your first probably being nipped in and the reason being is that even though yes, there technically there are people there, what's going on when you visit it.

49:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so kind of divorced from the reality of what you would expect. [SPEAKER_01]: You expect like a normal kind of town with people going about doing their business. [SPEAKER_01]: Instead, you see it just completely ravaged and changed from what the norm is. [SPEAKER_01]: And having been someone who's done emergency response and a bunch of other, you know, things of that nature before I've seen towns that are normally well lived in and then after like a hurricane or something like that comes in they're completely deserted that's exactly what it reminded me of.

50:17 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, I mean, I live in Florida. [SPEAKER_06]: I've lived through many hurricanes. [SPEAKER_06]: I've been through the eye of at least two storms that have gone right over top of where I've lived. [SPEAKER_06]: I've even gone out during the eye of hurricanes. [SPEAKER_06]: This is like 20 years ago.

50:31 [SPEAKER_06]: And then we had like a window of like, I don't know, 45 minutes or so. [SPEAKER_06]: And my friends and I were all in a house. [SPEAKER_06]: I haven't hurricane party trying to like, [SPEAKER_06]: You know, make it through the storm, but then when the eye came over us, we got in a pickup truck, and we drove around town, and we I'm and just looked at the streets and everything felt there's that feeling of like This there used to be more trees here Like where did all this stuff go like how come how come I can see the lake now when I couldn't see that lake it before you know like that feeling of like This is really or but it's not the same.

51:03 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, totally totally get that Yeah, it's a very end of the world feeling [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: So I think we've made it to the end of our list. [SPEAKER_06]: Anything that we haven't hit, any of the concepts that make should make the list that we didn't cover, anything else out there at all.

51:20 [SPEAKER_06]: Little lamp light. [SPEAKER_06]: Little lamp light. [SPEAKER_06]: That did come up. [SPEAKER_06]: We've talked about little lamp light and the psychological horror of that and how creepy that would be in the trauma. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the NCL trip is full that nuclear waste ended up somehow in the um, fight-up-up.

51:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Dirt's light. [SPEAKER_06]: What kind of camp search light? [SPEAKER_06]: So what kind of horror are you thinking this is? [SPEAKER_06]: Is it something we've covered or is it something new? [SPEAKER_08]: There's two, I look what we put that is psychological and body. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

52:03 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, psychological and body would work. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm thinking, is there another type of horror we have in covered? [SPEAKER_06]: Is there anything else on this list of like, I don't know, maybe we've hit everything, but I'm sure, I'm sure somebody's listening to real or ghosts.

52:20 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, I theory on ghosts, I think they kind of fit into full core a little bit, but yeah, yeah, the ethereal, I mean, demonic horror could be another element. [SPEAKER_05]: I was just thinking about the mother from the child of Adam stuff. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, there's just a match in a new label that is there's that, but the mother I would kind of label is more like a cosmic [SPEAKER_08]: That's a more love crafty in S currently.

52:43 [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and a grandchester would probably fit into folklore. [SPEAKER_06]: It's folk, but there's also a ghost element. [SPEAKER_06]: Also, the girl was was supposedly demon possessed to call it according to the parents and all that. [SPEAKER_06]: So you guys a little bit of demonic horror going on there as well.

52:57 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but it's supposed to be richer futuristic based in the mentality of the 60s. [SPEAKER_07]: So, you know, [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, all of these things overlap a little bit. [SPEAKER_06]: It feels like the boundaries are not cut and dry, right? [SPEAKER_06]: They all kind of have a little bit of something or a little bit something else.

53:10 [SPEAKER_06]: All right, well cool, well this is guys, this has been super fun, we've got a, oh, [SPEAKER_06]: something else did we cover emotional horror emotion psychological horror I think emotion I think we're using psychological emotional horror kind of together but yeah because things that make you feel a certain way and mess up your perception of things and yeah but hey let's we're going to take a quick transition here but thank you everybody for joining me I've got to shout out our newest patrons which includes some of you and um [SPEAKER_06]: and thank you everybody for for your support and all of that patreon.com slash fallout lorecast if you want to join us for future chats like this if you want to add free episodes and welcome to Jeff's cast KDE Lauren M in John S thank you for your support and for signing up and shoutouts to germinator and dusty ray r centributts who get shoutouts every week

54:00 [SPEAKER_06]: Thanks, Jeff. [SPEAKER_06]: Thanks both of you, Germinator's here with us. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you so much. [SPEAKER_06]: And don't have any new reviews on Apple Podcasts, but please leave a review. [SPEAKER_06]: And if I can see it, I'll read it out on a future episode if it's five star review.

54:11 [SPEAKER_06]: And thank you, everybody, for your support with that as well. [SPEAKER_06]: Also, I wanted to shout out one of our sponsors, one of the sponsors that has been sponsoring the show for the last month. [SPEAKER_06]: And there's soup. [SPEAKER_06]: This is, guys, if you have a VR headset and you haven't played, I expect you to die.

54:25 [SPEAKER_06]: I know you've probably heard the ads come up. [SPEAKER_06]: And if you're the patrons, maybe you haven't heard that ads come up. [SPEAKER_06]: But, I mean, it's not a horror game, but the idea of putting on your VR headset and being in a space where you have to, like, stop the nukes from launching and figure out the puzzles.

54:40 [SPEAKER_06]: It's like in a scape room, but you're also part of like this spy thing. [SPEAKER_06]: It's got this retro future sort of thing going on. [SPEAKER_06]: It's very fallouty in that sense, but it's also a lot of fun. [SPEAKER_06]: If you play it like I did with my family and you put it up on the screen and take turns and you all kind of work on stuff together So go check that out and they are sponsors just for a little while still and you can still get 45% off So if you want to try out I expect you to die go check that out [SPEAKER_06]: The code is a little bit long, it'll be in the description of the main show if you want to find it, but if you can remember it, it's fallout rising with the capital F and a capital R, fallout rising dash 8904FC capital F capital C. So I'll say it again, fallout rising dash 8904FC.

55:24 [SPEAKER_06]: So could go check that out. [SPEAKER_06]: It's I had a blast playing with my family. [SPEAKER_06]: I think you guys might enjoy it for the holidays. [SPEAKER_06]: So, just wanted to put that out there as we kind of wrap up the show. [SPEAKER_06]: But there's a bunch of other cool stuff coming.

55:36 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how many of you can be jumping into Fallout 76. [SPEAKER_06]: We talked about the next expansion. [SPEAKER_06]: All sorts. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm excited about that. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm also picking up outer worlds too. [SPEAKER_06]: Have you guys played Out of Worlds 2 yet? [SPEAKER_06]: It just came out today as we're recording this.

55:50 [SPEAKER_06]: It's by Obsidian, the people who made new Vegas. [SPEAKER_06]: And I've heard some very, very good things. [SPEAKER_06]: I haven't actually gotten into it yet about a lot of the decisions are very dependent on what you decide and there's different factions. [SPEAKER_06]: And there's all sorts of, like, it's a way expanded from the first game.

56:06 [SPEAKER_06]: So, [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to be playing this and I would love to have conversations with some of you on on our discord about like what you think about the game and how do you plan and do that sort of thing So those are just some of the things I wanted to throw in there since I've got everybody here with me, but thank you everybody All right, let's go back through and thank you for joining me feel free to shout out something into the world and tell people how they can Follow you or get a hold of you or whatever and we're going to go through on the screen.

56:29 [SPEAKER_06]: Let's start with void Void you got stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: You got stuff going on [SPEAKER_07]: I have many things going on, um, so I, my name is void or Jeremy Geiser, I run the Dungeons and Dipschitz podcast, um, we have retitled it. [SPEAKER_07]: It is no longer Dungeons and Dipschitz a D&D podcast.

56:49 [SPEAKER_07]: It is now Dungeons and Dipschitz faded light because we have another campaign coming sometime early next year. [SPEAKER_07]: So, cool, be on the lookout for that. [SPEAKER_07]: Early 2026, probably around February or March. [SPEAKER_07]: We have another project in the works that is maybe a year or two out, and that one's fallout based.

57:14 [SPEAKER_07]: So, that one's gonna be a fun one. [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm partnering with Logan on that one. [SPEAKER_06]: Logan the pumpkin king. [SPEAKER_07]: If I let him explain that if he so chooses, that's why I'm being a little cryptic with it. [SPEAKER_07]: But again, it's one or two years out. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm currently designing the map for it and it's amazing.

57:36 [SPEAKER_06]: Cool. [SPEAKER_06]: So it'd be like another role playing thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it'll still be a TTRPG. [SPEAKER_07]: Cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Table top role playing game. [SPEAKER_07]: And [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to say my last thing because I don't know when that's going to come to fruition just yet.

57:51 [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you're just going to hint at it and then tease us with it some more until you're ready to. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Tell people, but I'm great in teasing. [SPEAKER_07]: My ex is going to tell you that wonderful. [SPEAKER_06]: But if people want you to tease them in person, where would they for in the reach you?

58:06 [SPEAKER_06]: In person, well, maybe I'm signing apps, maybe I'm not. [SPEAKER_07]: But you can always reach me on the Discord VZero 1D696 or actually know on your Discord, I'm void slash Jeremy with parentheses around Dungeons and Diveshits. [SPEAKER_07]: But my DMs are always open if you need to rant, sorry, I've been going on for a while.

58:29 [SPEAKER_07]: I have a lot of stuff going on. [SPEAKER_07]: So anyway, to Pumpkin, thanks, boy, Pumpkin. [SPEAKER_07]: Go. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, yes, hi, I'm pumpkin king or Logan as you know me over on our other show, but yes, I am going to be working I am going to be working on a fallout tabletop project.

58:49 [SPEAKER_08]: It is still very early on story wise anyway, because Jeremy's very far on the map, so that I'm jealous that he can do that, but I'm. [SPEAKER_08]: I've been it's kind of already been in the works for a while. [SPEAKER_08]: It just I was very half-assing it. [SPEAKER_08]: So now I'm kind of trying to get.

59:08 [SPEAKER_08]: They're full-assing it. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I'm trying not to get on it to get working on it. [SPEAKER_08]: It will be I'm not going to be giving any information just because in case it kind of does [SPEAKER_08]: fall down. [SPEAKER_06]: That's right. [SPEAKER_06]: We'll tell you what. [SPEAKER_06]: Why don't you, you've hinted at it.

59:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Why don't you fill us in maybe next month or whatever and when it's when it's getting close. [SPEAKER_06]: Let us know and then people can check it out. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: But other than that, you can find me on the Discord. [SPEAKER_08]: I also run the Dungeons and Dipshits, a live D&D podcast.

59:40 [SPEAKER_08]: blue sky we also dungeons and if it's also has an Instagram which I think both are in are on the discord I think I want to say they are not in the dungeons and dipshits channel the blue sky is in the blue sky pack [SPEAKER_08]: uh... but they're in the description of all eleven episodes of us yeah and if you if you want to put it on your channel just go ahead and i'll just pin it and then people can find it there too so yeah he's a uh... i also have my own blue sky at the pumpkin king the i the i's being ones in the e being a three you can always find me on there i'd try to that's been a loss i posted but i'm want to try and get with that get with that yeah and if you need some season talk to void

1:00:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: Thanks, pumpkin. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm in. [SPEAKER_06]: Germinator. [SPEAKER_06]: How can people get a hold of you? [SPEAKER_06]: And you got anything going on? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, obviously, apart from getting hold of me on Discord, I've actually just started my own business doing mobile laser cleaning.

1:00:44 [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. [SPEAKER_04]: I've got an Instagram page. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a bright forge laser. [SPEAKER_04]: If you want to look it up. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and this is specifically in Australia, or do you can people send you things across the ocean or just Australia? [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't figured out I get how to get my truck to float yet.

1:01:01 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, once I do, I can do wild ones. [SPEAKER_06]: Cool, cool, cool, cool. [SPEAKER_06]: But if you, if you're in Australia, hit you up for some laser cleaning. [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. [SPEAKER_04]: Very cool. [SPEAKER_06]: Awesome. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, thanks for joining. [SPEAKER_06]: Good luck with that.

1:01:12 [SPEAKER_06]: That sounds really cool. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: Awesome. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: Ebony Kitty. [SPEAKER_06]: I think going on and how can people reach out? [SPEAKER_10]: uh discord mostly other than that um one I want to congratulate uh the fallout community for raising so much money on uh fallout day uh yeah follow through yeah yes uh two um just happy Halloween with it being this uh this Friday yeah happy Halloween such a fun holiday [SPEAKER_06]: I'm very cool.

1:01:47 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, thanks, Ebony Kitty. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, Ash, are you got anything going on? [SPEAKER_00]: No, nothing really going on for me, but you know, I'm always up to chat in the discord. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, same name is here. [SPEAKER_06]: Brocky O'Dreamer, Ash, the full full name even though I shortened it.

1:02:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, yeah, so there you go on the discord, and thank you for joining us again. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, little green. [SPEAKER_06]: How's it going? [SPEAKER_06]: Let's go and look good. [SPEAKER_02]: What's up? [SPEAKER_02]: So, um, well, if you would like to I'm going to promote my same thing every time, uh, my photography.

1:02:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you can look me up on Instagram at a little green underscore photography. [SPEAKER_02]: I just got a new camera. [SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm going to be using the living hell out of that thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can find me on the discord as well. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just I think I'm just a little green over there Yeah, that's really all I got.

1:02:39 [SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna love green everywhere. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's a little big green, but everywhere I should be here. [SPEAKER_06]: It should be your little tag. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I'm here. [SPEAKER_02]: Is this Actually, this is yoga with someone To make my thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just some schmuck with a camera [SPEAKER_06]: some schmuck with the camera.

1:02:57 [SPEAKER_06]: Let me take your pictures. [SPEAKER_06]: That's not so creepy. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Cool man. [SPEAKER_06]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_06]: Adam's child. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for joining us. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for having me. [SPEAKER_05]: It's been wonderful. [SPEAKER_05]: You can find me on the discord robots radio at Adam's child.

1:03:13 [SPEAKER_05]: You can also find me anywhere that you [SPEAKER_05]: If you want to meet the real me, you can find me on Instagram at underscore. [SPEAKER_05]: JT underscore Sims. [SPEAKER_05]: I do photography, modeling and acting, so if you want me, come get me. [SPEAKER_06]: If you've had everybody's out there, you reach everybody.

1:03:37 [SPEAKER_06]: Awesome. [SPEAKER_06]: Very cool. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, thank you for signing up. [SPEAKER_06]: Like last minute in joining us for the call. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you as a pleasure. [SPEAKER_06]: Saint Giobe. [SPEAKER_06]: You guys think I went on? [SPEAKER_06]: Anything share? [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, not really.

1:03:51 [SPEAKER_01]: You could find me on the discord under St. Geob as it, you know, it's kind of spelled, uh, I'm getting ready to go back in January to start my masters. [SPEAKER_01]: So just kind of wish me luck in that, I guess. [SPEAKER_06]: Nice. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, good luck. [SPEAKER_06]: That's a big endeavor.

1:04:05 [SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, cool. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, thanks for taking the time. [SPEAKER_06]: Leviathan. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for joining us as well. [SPEAKER_12]: Nice being here. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I don't own social media, but you can directly ping me on discord.

1:04:22 [SPEAKER_12]: And mostly on it in possible times, but you'll stand out, but yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, some people are on, it's, I mean, there's a little bit of crossover, but yeah, totally, totally get it. [SPEAKER_12]: And from Germany, you have two in the morning right now. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, three in the morning.

1:04:35 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, so if you do it earlier in the day here, then it'll be his afternoon and then it'll be out. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, that's a nice thing about messages as you can catch up when you get up in the morning Um, you work late shifts. [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm most of your wake and they are when everyone else is sleeping Oh, okay, but well, thanks for staying up late and taking the time That's awesome and then polar mist you're wrapping it up you're the last one Well, I've been last one I'm polar mist.

1:05:05 [SPEAKER_09]: You can find me on the discord spelled polar and miss [SPEAKER_09]: Um, I don't really do anything. [SPEAKER_09]: I kind of just I'm around so it's pretty much it, but I'm happy to be here This is my very first time super nervous. [SPEAKER_09]: I've listened to you all of y'all talk all the time for podcasts at the podcast So just happy to be yeah.

1:05:26 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: What do you think now that you've been here? [SPEAKER_09]: It's as scary as it was as you thought it would be a little bit like even now my heart is just something because I'm I've [SPEAKER_09]: Like, y'all are people that I've just listened to for years. [SPEAKER_09]: And I've just now, like, gotten into Patreon.

1:05:43 [SPEAKER_09]: So it's very nice to be able to start being a part of it now. [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, that's great. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad you decided to join everybody here. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad you decided to join, especially the new people. [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, it's this weird thing where if you listen to people on a podcast, you feel like you really get to know them.

1:06:00 [SPEAKER_06]: But they don't know you. [SPEAKER_06]: And there's that weird disconnect, right? [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I can't tell you how many times I'll get a message. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, please don't do this to me. [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, my DMs on Discord are not open because of these kinds of reasons.

1:06:12 [SPEAKER_06]: But somebody will just send me a message and just go, hey. [SPEAKER_06]: Like there a friend I haven't talked to in two weeks and they're just checking in and see what's going on You know, and I'm like, I don't even know who you are. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you're a bot I don't like this is it's so weird.

1:06:26 [SPEAKER_06]: It's so weird Yeah, I would be surprised if some of the other people on you know these patron chats get that too because people are like I've I've listened to you like 15 times now over the over the last few years and you know like hey, what's up? [SPEAKER_06]: What's going on? [SPEAKER_06]: It's just so weird, but thank you, thank you, Polymers.

1:06:41 [SPEAKER_06]: I hope this was, you know, fun and engaging, and that you guys will join us for next month, and I'm sure we'll have some fun things talk about with the 76 stuff coming out, the season two of the show. [SPEAKER_06]: There's all sorts of fun stuff on the horizon, so. [SPEAKER_06]: good times.

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