416: Expectations & Hopes for Remastered Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Obsidian's New Fallout Game

[SPEAKER_07]: Welcome to the Fallout lorecast. [SPEAKER_07]: The podcast that explores the boundaries of our knowledge about the world of Fallout. [SPEAKER_07]: Wastelanders and Valtweller's welcome back to the Fallout lorecast. [SPEAKER_07]: It is time for our patron chat and we have all of this news to discuss with all of the new Fallout titles that have been revealed to have now finally officially revealed out there along with the Obsidian Fallout game that they will be working on.

[SPEAKER_07]: These are things that we've all been speculating about for a while now, but we have officially [SPEAKER_07]: and an obsidian follow-up game and follow-up five and we're going to go in order and tackle each of these and talk about some of our hopes and expectations about each of these titles.

[SPEAKER_07]: But joining me this this month we have a wonderful cast and of patrons and here's what I'm going to do. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to introduce everybody and then on the count of three you guys are all going to react. [SPEAKER_07]: You're going to give me a glimpse at how you reacted when this news was revealed.

[SPEAKER_07]: and whatever sounds you made. [SPEAKER_07]: So here we go. [SPEAKER_07]: We've got a Bracchio Dreamer Ash. [SPEAKER_07]: We have Void and Pumpkin, Nova, Cadpat, Lil Green, Eira, Phil, and Leviathan joining us. [SPEAKER_07]: Welcome to the show everybody. [SPEAKER_07]: Get ready to unmute.

[SPEAKER_07]: Here we go. [SPEAKER_07]: One, two, three. [SPEAKER_07]: I subway it was so void and pumpkin are in the same room together and they almost started making out. [SPEAKER_07]: Was that your reaction? [SPEAKER_07]: That wasn't the first thing I thought was just pull somebody over and give them big smooch.

[SPEAKER_07]: But that was hilarious. [SPEAKER_11]: It was ours basically. [SPEAKER_11]: We were just like messaging each other like holy shit. [SPEAKER_11]: Did you see this and then started virtually making out. [SPEAKER_11]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: All right cool cool cool cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Well congratulations.

[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't realize the relationship [SPEAKER_07]: I don't get saying no. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, whatever you guys decide to do, but here's how we're going to start this off. [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to start with Fallout 3, the remaster, and we're starting with a Bracky or Dreamer Ash Ash. [SPEAKER_07]: You have some thoughts about this.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to start with you. [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to move to CADPAT and then we're going to open it up for everybody, whoever else wants to chime in with some thoughts. [SPEAKER_07]: But let's focus on your hopes and expectations. [SPEAKER_07]: What do you think we will get and what do you hope will be a part of it?

[SPEAKER_02]: How's somebody who lives in the capital wasteland? [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just... That's really dark. [SPEAKER_07]: The current waste capital is also the wasteland already. [SPEAKER_07]: But anyway... Feed. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean the double entendre, but you know, if this is... [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: As somebody who lives in the capital wasteland, I am excited to go back. [SPEAKER_02]: and with updated graphics, um, hopefully. [SPEAKER_02]: And I am just excited to play three again with the updated engine with the, like, new, shiny bits, all the new shiny bits. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, all the, so how long, how long has it been?

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't crash every, like, three seconds. [SPEAKER_07]: That would be a hope too. [SPEAKER_07]: How long has it been since you've played Fallout 3? [SPEAKER_02]: a couple of months actually. [SPEAKER_07]: So you went back recently. [SPEAKER_02]: I did go back recently. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't get very far.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was like right after my friend and I watched the Superman movie were like, hey, let's play Fallout 3 as Clark. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't get very far. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not sure how that works, but that would be a entry-leveled energy weapons. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

[SPEAKER_07]: So let's talk about the improvements. [SPEAKER_07]: Clearly, graphics, we have the Oblivion Remaster as kind of a measuring stick, or I don't know, an initial idea of what we might be getting. [SPEAKER_07]: For anybody who doesn't play Elder Scrolls games and didn't play the Oblivion Remaster, this isn't weren't plugged into the news.

[SPEAKER_07]: Basically what they did was they kept the engine that runs the game, the same underneath, the thing that handles the physics and the scripting, the scheduling, the movement of characters, the dialogue, a lot of that stuff was fundamentally the same and mostly untouched. [SPEAKER_07]: They fixed a few bugs and things, but most of what they added were little tweaks here and there and improved graphics.

[SPEAKER_07]: Do you think we'll get the same thing, hush? [SPEAKER_07]: Or do you think that like one of the big things people have talked about is what are they going to do with the combat? [SPEAKER_07]: Is it going to feel like Fallout 3 or is it going to feel like Fallout 4 76? [SPEAKER_07]: What do you think?

[SPEAKER_02]: I am kind of hoping for an improvement on the fallout four, at least. [SPEAKER_02]: It feels a little bit smoother, a little less clunky. [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, one of the big things was aiming in fallout three and fallout new Vegas was still very much stat based and was not based on what you were actually pointing at.

[SPEAKER_07]: and that's something that got fixed or updated was probably better way to say it in Fallout 4. [SPEAKER_07]: But some of the older games were just built around more like dice rolls and then anything else. [SPEAKER_07]: Do you think that's a good improvement? [SPEAKER_02]: I did find like going when I was going back and forth between like three and four in New York because I was playing New Vegas again for the while and going back to three four in New Vegas is I definitely did like four's combat a little bit better.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Then like three of your new Vegas. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, a CAD pad. [SPEAKER_07]: Let's jump over to you. [SPEAKER_07]: You have some thoughts about Fallout 3. [SPEAKER_07]: What do you think about specifically? [SPEAKER_07]: What do you think about the combat plus anything else you want to share?

[SPEAKER_10]: Okay. [SPEAKER_10]: As someone who has had military training when it comes to rifles and stuff like that, I'm going to say that Fallout 3 and New Vegas that you constantly shifting your aim is fairly accurate, [SPEAKER_10]: and you have to hold this thing constantly while dealing with a decent amount of force to the shoulder.

[SPEAKER_10]: So in my opinion, at least, I think that fault 3 new Vegas have a fairly accurate systems when it comes to missing and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_10]: But I do think that [SPEAKER_10]: improve combat along with the power armor system would be so much better in Fallout 3 and New Vegas. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, just to clarify so that everybody is a were all on the same page.

[SPEAKER_07]: The two systems work in very different ways. [SPEAKER_07]: So in Fallout 4, you aim at something and if you're aiming at your target, then there's a certain amount of spread. [SPEAKER_07]: that's on your weapon, like most other first-person shooters that determines how inaccurate your weapon is, thus the kick of the gun, that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: In Fallout 3 and New Vegas, it's more like you could be absolutely pointing at something like two feet in front of you, but if your stats are not good, then it's a dice roll. [SPEAKER_07]: It's not like it's actually modeling the bullet. [SPEAKER_07]: it's just rolling a dice and like in D&D, if you roll a one, it doesn't matter that the bullet looks like it physically hit the thing in front of you.

[SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't actually register. [SPEAKER_07]: So that's one of the big problems people have with this stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: But, Ken Pat, what else do you think about the follow three master, what are you looking forward to? [SPEAKER_07]: What are you expecting? [SPEAKER_10]: Honestly, I know that they will probably be like this, but I just hope all the DLCs are included because it's a what?

[SPEAKER_10]: I can't even remember like 18 year old game. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, something like that. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I came up to yours after I was born. [SPEAKER_10]: So yeah, 18. [SPEAKER_10]: So, yeah, honestly, an 18 year old game, even if it is getting a remaster, it should have all of the DLC included.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's usually the case. [SPEAKER_07]: In fact, that they did that with oblivion. [SPEAKER_07]: So, I would expect that they just drop it like a whole package, right? [SPEAKER_07]: Everything's in there, all the DLC. [SPEAKER_07]: So, yeah, I'm on board with that as well. [SPEAKER_07]: If they don't do that, that's going to feel kind of nickel and dimey, hopefully, then we just [SPEAKER_07]: No, we don't, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, or the new Halo game that just came out where they remastered the entire campaign from the first game, but then just didn't include multi-player, but you know, like, what? [SPEAKER_07]: A little bit weird, but people love the multiplayer, but whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: But here, let's open this up.

[SPEAKER_07]: Who else has thoughts about Fallout 3 expectations? [SPEAKER_07]: Leviathan, I see your hand. [SPEAKER_07]: I also see some other people, but we'll jump around. [SPEAKER_07]: Start with Leviathan, what do you think? [SPEAKER_06]: I have never played free, but I hope I can play it when the remaster comes out as someone that likes to snipe enemies half across the map, half further than you're supposed to shoot them.

[SPEAKER_06]: I hope it's not a dice roll because yes, I don't use that's normally because if they're in the building, I should have them from like free buildings away. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_07]: So that's fun. [SPEAKER_07]: I enjoy a good sniper build as well. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and I like when it feels like no, I aimed that correctly and I hit them.

[SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't just for any chance. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like it feels good because it's like I've been working on the training. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm getting better at this. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_07]: Pumpkin, I saw your hand as well. [SPEAKER_07]: Pumpkin, do you have thoughts on Fallout 3?

[SPEAKER_08]: Uh, I'm just hoping that I'd be able to aim at something normally. [SPEAKER_08]: My whole thing is like instead of it going like, you know, your head face against the gun to down the site, look down sites and shooting your character would just like move his head forward. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, right, right, right, right.

[SPEAKER_07]: The screen just kind of zooms if you have a little bit. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I, I want like I, I hope that they fix that. [SPEAKER_08]: That's my big, that was my big thing with that game. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: The tech in it is pretty old and that that engine had never done a shooter before.

[SPEAKER_07]: The closest thing to shooting was using your bow in oblivion or something like that, right? [SPEAKER_07]: So very, very different. [SPEAKER_07]: Who else has thoughts on Fallout 3? [SPEAKER_07]: I see, no fill, no thrill. [SPEAKER_07]: Fill, fills join this. [SPEAKER_07]: How's it going, Phil?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, I'm good thanks. [SPEAKER_05]: I just was a month ago, I was a guest at German Fallout podcast, and we actually talked a lot about Fallout 3, and we all came to the conclusion, and I know it's probably not realistic to hope for that remake. [SPEAKER_05]: or remaster, but the problem with Fallout 3 for me was a lot of things felt unfinished, and it had so much cut content in the game, and I would really, really hope they might review some of this at least.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's a good point. [SPEAKER_07]: Some of the things they fixed in the Oblivion Remaster were things that felt a little unfinished or needed some extra polishing, but they definitely left some things just kind of, as they were. [SPEAKER_07]: In fact, they left most things the way they were.

[SPEAKER_07]: But I'm on board with that as well. [SPEAKER_07]: In fact, this is one of the questions I thought about before we got together was, do you think that they're going to either add in new stuff or flesh out some of the stuff that was a little bit unfinished? [SPEAKER_07]: And is there something specific that you were like, oh, I want more of this, specifically, what do you think, Phil?

[SPEAKER_05]: Especially, some of the walls felt very unfinished and there was a lot of potential, I think, especially like Walt 87, where they, I think, Fox initially had a lot of terminal entries and a lot of this was scrapped, for example, and I think in other walls as well. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I was working on that last episode that just went up with where I went these vaults should be canon and one of them is the puppet man vault, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: And that would be amazing. [SPEAKER_07]: What if they add that entire vault with the puppet man and they actually like just put it in the game and they're like, it's not just an outfit with the number we get the whole vault. [SPEAKER_05]: This was what would be great. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: I think that would be really cool too. [SPEAKER_07]: Who all says [SPEAKER_10]: Uh, yeah, honestly, when it comes to the pop, man, well, I think that you should get a some sort of legendary weapon from it. [SPEAKER_10]: Regarding like the poppets, like, yes, no hammer or something like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Or you get a puppet and you put it on your hand and then it punches things for you. [SPEAKER_07]: It's literally, yeah, but it's, it's like massive damage somehow. [SPEAKER_07]: And you're like, or it's really intimidating in conversations, because that's what the comic is kind of like, [SPEAKER_10]: It's like that, and you can swap out the pop-ups to depending on what situation you're in.

[SPEAKER_07]: That would be amazing. [SPEAKER_07]: I think our hopes are probably a little too far than what they'll actually do. [SPEAKER_10]: And the other things actually. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, go ahead. [SPEAKER_07]: No, go ahead. [SPEAKER_07]: Pumpkin had a joke, but go ahead. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll finish with you first.

[SPEAKER_10]: The other thing I was hoping was they take off the green filter. [SPEAKER_10]: Because it is a absolutely gorgeous game if you've ever seen it without the green filter. [SPEAKER_10]: I watch videos of people playing through it with normal coloring and like the game is gorgeous. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I feel like that's something they could add in option in the options menu for.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like if you, if you do take it off, there will be the purists who are like, this is not my fallout. [SPEAKER_07]: The colors in oblivion were a little different and people were like, it's not the same. [SPEAKER_07]: But if you leave it, they're going to be people who are like, oh, what's with a green filter?

[SPEAKER_07]: The other games don't look like this. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, and then so the option seems like the best fit in my opinion. [SPEAKER_08]: yeah so pumpkin what were you saying about the puppet who i was saying it's like have you seen those like punching uh pen toys yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what i was thinking of for a little rockham soccer brobots like [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: That would be great. [SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: Let's move on to new Vegas because a lot of my expectations for three are very similar for new Vegas improved combat improved graphics fleshed out content, but new Vegas also has a place in the fallout community as being. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, a lot of people put it on the pistol.

[SPEAKER_07]: This is their top-follow game and there are there's a lot more going on in certain regards in New Vegas Then and follow three. [SPEAKER_07]: What do you guys think about New Vegas? [SPEAKER_07]: What are you hoping for? [SPEAKER_07]: What are you looking forward to with that? [SPEAKER_07]: Nova?

[SPEAKER_09]: So well [SPEAKER_09]: I just have a question for both fall three individuals to do they're actually going to update the movement or do some more, like, you know, take some things from fall at 476 and actually implement them into those two. [SPEAKER_09]: That's something I would kind of enjoy if they do with both of them to catch all, but with new Vegas specifically, I hope they add some time.

[SPEAKER_09]: That was release, that was like, oh, it's fall new Vegas 10 years later though, so it's still five years before the show takes place, but you get to, [SPEAKER_09]: at the very least quality events that led up to the show and you can make your own decisions and everything, but you know the cantical ending already because of the show, but maybe explore some other aspects of that, which they weren't able to touch on with the show and also see how that was actually implemented, how the on-close able to get an entire pack of death clause to take over the ship and do everything else like that.

[SPEAKER_09]: I think that would be [SPEAKER_09]: I think that would be really interesting to see with this, because we already do have fall in New Vegas, but New Vegas, 15 years in the future, we know the current will have events of it, and so I'd like to see some other things that led to seeing the wasteland how it came, the way it is in the show.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's a great idea, and even if they only just sprinkled in little Easter eggs all over the place, and then you could kind of find them and discover them and go, wait a minute, this little thing wasn't here before, this relates to that thing that happened in the show, or even a door that goes down to the vault that we see in the season two of the show, but you can't open it or something like that, just something like, oh, this is right here, look at it.

[SPEAKER_07]: That would be really cool. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, or you have the cold fusion reactor, like, door, because Ark Frost and Mr. has a screen. [SPEAKER_09]: You have the doorway there, just like you were saying with the vulby of the door, where they're behind the shells. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I'm pressing the button, but it's not opening.

[SPEAKER_09]: Come on. [SPEAKER_09]: Come on. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: And then the people who drive people nuts, they're like, I know there's something in there. [SPEAKER_07]: I got it open. [SPEAKER_07]: I wasn't able to find a way to open it. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think that's a great idea. [SPEAKER_09]: And we're if they add some things in from there's just a gun general. [SPEAKER_09]: So like, if Lucy's many 14 or [SPEAKER_09]: or the the ghouls revolver. [SPEAKER_09]: Like whatever, they said the handheld grenade launcher, you add a couple of those, where it fires the 25 millimeter grenade, just as a cool little hey, look at this, it's from the show guys, is it awesome?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they've added some of that kind of stuff to what Fallout 4, you can get the ghoul stuff in, there's ghoul stuff in 76. [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, I think your abs are spot on, I would love to have more of that stuff, and it makes sense to have crossover stuff because there are a lot of people who have watched the show who still haven't tried any of the games.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I can tell you from the stats on my podcast that that is absolutely true, because if you look at the number of downloads per month or whatever, it stays within a certain range, and then the show comes out. [SPEAKER_07]: And it like spikes it's like four or five times the number for like a month and then the number goes right back down to regular within like two months and what my assumption is is that those are TV fans and they they poke their head in they listen to some episodes They get enough of whatever it is that they wanted to get but they haven't played the games so they're not super interested in like an episode about who Preston Garvey is because they don't know who that is right

[SPEAKER_07]: and then they move on to whatever other show they're watching. [SPEAKER_07]: So to have more reason for viewers to go, okay, this game is based on the same location that we just saw in the TV show, I want to go play that I want to experience that world. [SPEAKER_07]: I want to go talk to Mr. House or whatever.

[SPEAKER_07]: That would be amazing. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly, but it's like we're talking in the pre-show, like Todd Howard's probably dropped the ball with market capitalization and I haven't even got anything to that physically ship with the show. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so that was obviously a massive blunder, but let's keep this positive.

[SPEAKER_09]: And I go one of the things I'm going to say about follow three new Vegas, do you think they're going to add an accration club into the remaster? [SPEAKER_09]: Ooh, they didn't. [SPEAKER_09]: One thing I've been bothering for a long time because it is a cash cow for Bethesda, obviously. [SPEAKER_09]: And it would be a way to implement some things that are not canon, but people think are really cool.

[SPEAKER_09]: Like, oh, I don't know literally anything from the show into the games that hardcore fans, who are like, this is not, it's not just a new vrg, it's never had all their stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't want to have the cool's duster in the game. [SPEAKER_09]: But the people who are here for the show, like, [SPEAKER_09]: I can be the goal, or I can be the hostie.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, totally, totally. [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's a great question. [SPEAKER_07]: My gut says they won't do it for two reasons. [SPEAKER_07]: First, they didn't do that with Oblivion, the Oblivion remaster. [SPEAKER_07]: And second, we've seen how long it took them to get that up and running and working correctly and fall out for in Skyrim and in Starfield.

[SPEAKER_07]: So I feel like that's probably more work than they're going to want to have to do in order to get the game out for people to start buying it. [SPEAKER_09]: Now, that also doesn't have any need for the gamer we see it though, so they have. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, until they get us a absolute deadline, then they have pretty much as much time as they need to implement in what we think.

[SPEAKER_07]: And like I said, as much time as Microsoft will give them. [SPEAKER_07]: That's the thing is that they're they're looking at Bethesda and going, we paid how much for all of you. [SPEAKER_07]: And we've now let go so many people. [SPEAKER_07]: We need you to make more money. [SPEAKER_07]: Put things out.

[SPEAKER_09]: And yeah, but they call, they also point at, [SPEAKER_09]: They also point to all the sales that they had for fall at four and fall at 76 is Australian the Adam Shop at also the creation club and say well look at how much we sold immediately after the show is released and all this stuff that had like how much we're still working every single month once you like two more games with that with that marketplace and that you can just buy stuff like like even if it just like one bundle like version called I'm just for [SPEAKER_09]: for you buy for one or applied to both.

[SPEAKER_09]: I think that would be the best system, obviously, because I don't want to buy two things for the two different games. [SPEAKER_09]: And I think they would build a point towards that and say, hey, look at this, and this is the projected, there we're thinking we're going to make, and this is all the items that we're going to have lined up for season three's drop, and X, Y, and Z, and they're just going to keep adding stuff to it, obviously, and whatever fan creations too.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, that's totally fine. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you're led everyone thoughts and finished. [SPEAKER_07]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_07]: But I don't know, maybe when it happens, we'll come back to this and be like, hi, or you'll be like, hi, it's all Jesus. [SPEAKER_07]: We're like, cool, either way.

[SPEAKER_07]: But here, let's, what else do you guys want for a new Vegas? [SPEAKER_07]: There's so much going on a new Vegas. [SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of DLC. [SPEAKER_07]: I see the Void Pumpkin combo with fans raised. [SPEAKER_07]: What do you guys think? [SPEAKER_08]: We've been had it, and it's lost, and go for it there.

[SPEAKER_11]: I haven't played all the way through New Vegas. [SPEAKER_11]: So I know my opinion is going to be a little less here, but I want more side things. [SPEAKER_11]: I want the same new Vegas, but I want more side things. [SPEAKER_11]: I know it's not like I know it's probably going to be the basis of what a bliving was the same game but updated graphics.

[SPEAKER_11]: but I want more because there was so much cut content for new Vegas that could now be included or and they could give more story to more areas that I mean, I think that this is the perfect opportunity to actually fully flesh out this game. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think that would be great, too.

[SPEAKER_07]: Pumpkin? [SPEAKER_08]: I'm kind of in that same, but I would love the world space to be filled up a bit more because like you don't even though New Vegas is still one of my favorite games of all time. [SPEAKER_08]: It felt really empty in a lot of places. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: I feel like it's filling that emptiness would be very, very good for the.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, there are certain things that I noticed when I go back and play, having played a lot of Fallout 4 and 76, and that's one of the first things you notice is once you get out of the town where you start, there are just large swaths of just nothing, and maybe just some monsters or whatever, and it would be nice if there is a little bit more going on that you can even just [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, just a cache of something you can pick up over here or a character that's, you know, just randomly walks around in the wilderness who might give you a little side quest or, you know, a heck, even a little cave.

[SPEAKER_07]: A little cave or two to just like poke your head in and be like, what's in here? [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's a monster with some stuff I can get. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I totally agree with all of that. [SPEAKER_07]: Any other thoughts on that one from both of you? [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, going along the same lines is what you were saying, having that more just things happening.

[SPEAKER_11]: I remember pretty early in the game, I believe it's, you're going east along the southern border pretty much, there's literally just a flat plane open field with nothing except rad scorpions. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: But they might have changed it. [SPEAKER_11]: It yields your something.

[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: But I mean, even then, like, over the years, because it was a desert when the bomb strapped, there would have been nothing. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: I put something there. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Or even just, you know, another idea that could work for these types of games.

[SPEAKER_07]: In a game like Skyrim, when you walk around, there are random encounters that will happen [SPEAKER_07]: And this is a function of a game that came out on a very similar engine, a slightly upgraded engine, just a two years after, and to have that be the thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Like, okay, the game is keeping track of your character.

[SPEAKER_07]: You're walking X amount of time through the wilderness. [SPEAKER_07]: Nothing interesting has happened. [SPEAKER_07]: And so it spawns a random encounter. [SPEAKER_07]: And maybe that's a legionary who's lost in the wilderness is been left behind. [SPEAKER_07]: And you got to deal with them, or maybe it could be any number of things.

[SPEAKER_07]: A robot that comes by something. [SPEAKER_07]: You could add more stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: And I think that is a absolutely great idea, so I'm totally on board with that as well. [SPEAKER_07]: Any other thoughts about new Vegas from anybody else who hasn't gone yet? [SPEAKER_07]: Adam's child made it, jumped into the show, welcome, glad you're able to make that workout.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hi. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for having me. [SPEAKER_04]: Good to be back. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, so the one thing that I wanted to say about new Vegas is as somebody, I've, I've never played new Vegas. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and it's unfortunate that they announced that there is a remaster coming out because I had literally like a couple months ago just bought it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, so I don't know whether I should just wait or if I should just go ahead and play it, [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I'm in the same camp, by the way, I have played New Vegas, but every time I get the itch to go back, I'm like, yeah, but I should just wait. [SPEAKER_07]: Right?

[SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but anyway, I am a Fallout 4 guy for sure. [SPEAKER_04]: And one thing that I want to [SPEAKER_04]: I kind of want some of the mechanics from Fallout 4 to be put into New Vegas, especially the power armor mechanics, because if I recall correctly the power armor in New Vegas is just like regular clothing.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I'm three in New Vegas had it was it worked just like regular clothing. [SPEAKER_07]: You didn't get in the power armor the way you do in 4 and 76. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and that's one of the things that I enjoyed the most about Fallout 4 was the power the power armor mechanic.

[SPEAKER_04]: and the customization of all the pieces, the different things that you can upgrade on your power armor and just the different variations of all the special different ones from like Nuka World, the Vim power armor, all that stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: It was just really cool. [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's mechanic that should come to the remaster of new Vegas and also, of course, since it was remaster, it's going to be able to be handled a bit differently, I definitely like to see more like everyone else has been saying like just putting more of that unused content in there, like I always hated like playing fallout and [SPEAKER_04]: and going to a door that can't be opened, you know, like I just I want more I want more story I want more possibility for random things.

[SPEAKER_04]: So those are the two things that I think of for new Vegas. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I agree. [SPEAKER_07]: So because they will be updating the graphics means that they will be changing some of the models for the enemies and characters and the next thing I thought about was [SPEAKER_07]: What about the death clause?

[SPEAKER_07]: Because the death clause in three in New Vegas don't look like the death clause from four in 76. [SPEAKER_07]: And some people like them better, some people don't like them better. [SPEAKER_07]: So some thoughts on that, but real quick, little green as it's hands up. [SPEAKER_07]: Lig green or hand up.

[SPEAKER_07]: Not hands up like you, you're under arrest, but. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I was gonna say something that I honestly don't want to see and that is like the crafting and building systems. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because I love the difference, too. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see the games just get like like the facelift and everything like in an added things, but I don't want that specific thing added maybe something like something like for like the weapon upgrades, but nothing like we see in like like the feather system or like the in 70 sets all the building in there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: So I appreciate it in those two games, but I don't need it or want it in those ones. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I agree. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm on the same page with that as well. [SPEAKER_07]: Leviathan, do you have some thoughts? [SPEAKER_06]: I hope when they all have worked the graphics that they make those abomination, usually things as slimy as possible.

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Extra gross looking things. [SPEAKER_07]: Adam's child, I feel like I cut you off and jumped off of this when we were talking, like, go ahead. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you didn't interrupt me at all. [SPEAKER_04]: I had finished talking about what I wanted to have.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just wanted to bounce back off of Lil Green, because I do agree with Lil Green. [SPEAKER_04]: I think everything in the Fallout 4 and 76 mechanics for customization of weapons and such should stay. [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's just the main thing that people that were fans of the older games, [SPEAKER_04]: uh... are hating is the base building aspect so i think it if we can keep everything from fallout for in terms of that customization just get rid of the the settlement and base building aspect i think that would still stay true to the uh... to the lore and uh... and vibe of uh... both three hand um...

[SPEAKER_07]: new Vegas right so new Vegas the in four are very different in the way that they handle weapons in the way that you can repair weapons or even ammo that's a very different thing as well so that that could be another thing where it's like well do you prefer one or the other catpad had his hands up though catpad okay uh one i'm hoping that they have longer than an 18 month development cycle for this thing [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so if they started right around the time that Oblivion was released, that was March of a year ago, so it has been almost 18 months at this point, just, you know, back of the napkin kind of math.

[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, and then we don't have a release day yet. [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm assuming that you're correct. [SPEAKER_07]: They will have more than 18 months development. [SPEAKER_07]: So hopefully that's a thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: The other thing I was thinking that they could add to new Vegas, I think Adam's child was saying this was, or no, I think it might have been Jeremy and Void.

[SPEAKER_10]: The random encounters I was thinking from some of them, it could be like a mirage like, oh, I see a town often [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that would be cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Like, yeah, the way the heat plays with you in the distance and some extra effects for that, um, even the shadows for the clouds as they pass over the kinds of things you would see in a desert that they haven't been able to do in the game before.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and maybe add the heat as a modifier for like exhaustion stuff like that, because [SPEAKER_10]: I think most people know this, the Nevada desert is hollow. [SPEAKER_07]: It's hot, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I would imagine that if they were to do something like that, they would lump it into like a survival mode similar to what they didn't fall out for.

[SPEAKER_07]: So that could be a whole other thing as well. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you take a sip from your trusty canteen. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, take a sip from your canteen. [SPEAKER_07]: Phil, you have some other thoughts on this? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think it would be cool when they could add layers to the survival mode because I think the survival mode in New Vegas is not very hard, but the survival mode in the fallout here is actually a group of great.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I talk to a lot of players who would like to try survival mode, but they're just afraid. [SPEAKER_05]: And I guess it's because first time I try survival mode, I think I died on my way to Concord. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you got to deal with all that stuff for sure. [SPEAKER_07]: Yep. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry Phil, you finish what you're saying and then we'll jump over here.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think it would be awesome if it would like head of some more light, medium and hot. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Or some different sliders for different things. [SPEAKER_07]: This is how you need a drink. [SPEAKER_07]: This is the heat and drink thing. [SPEAKER_07]: All the little different mechanics.

[SPEAKER_07]: Sure. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: You're at wood. [SPEAKER_07]: What did you want to add to this conversation? [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, just that I agreed with with that fully. [SPEAKER_03]: I hated survival mode in four because that same thing happened to me. [SPEAKER_03]: I kept dying and dying and dying so many times at Concord, I was like, no, I can't play this.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I wanted to play it because it had that, if I remember right, like you had to be drinking and eating, did it have those, like, [SPEAKER_03]: I think I think it did like it in the base game, you don't need to be right. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: You don't have to track your hunger.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: That's what I think. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I like that aspect in the games that it makes it like more realistic. [SPEAKER_03]: And like you have to be paying attention that, oh, I got to remember to eat and I got a drink to keep my strength.

[SPEAKER_03]: But that that you could only save when going to sleep. [SPEAKER_03]: And I found out one mattress, right, yeah, sometimes it's hard to find a bed and I had to go back and like fight all those Raider that I don't know how I just kept dying and I can't do this. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, it's tricky.

[SPEAKER_07]: It makes it harder for her. [SPEAKER_03]: Some kind of different levels in that that would be great for me. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that would be cool. [SPEAKER_07]: That would be cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, we need to move on to the Obsidian game. [SPEAKER_07]: And so we're going to wrap up the New Vegas conversation just a minute, but Leviathan, you have some other thoughts on this?

[SPEAKER_06]: I wanted to mostly to agree with that. [SPEAKER_06]: I like survival mode. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm playing a lot of survival mode in a modern, survival mode in Skyrim, but I hate it if you have to sleep to safe because I have the problem I chronically safe constantly because it's nothing more frustrating than getting through a quest.

[SPEAKER_06]: to save and then it crashes just before you're saved. [SPEAKER_06]: Then you have to repeat the last hour and a half. [SPEAKER_07]: Right, right, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, all of that stuff is tricky. [SPEAKER_07]: It does make the game a lot harder. [SPEAKER_07]: And once you can't save anywhere, it definitely is more of like a real world thing that gets in the way, you know, like, I need to close the game, I gotta go do something.

[SPEAKER_07]: You have to find a bed. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, totally. [SPEAKER_07]: In chat, Golden Goomba guy says what's everyone's feelings on type of co-op in new Vegas remake, let a friend be your companion. [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's a girl just answered this real quick. [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's an awesome idea.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's highly unlikely. [SPEAKER_07]: We saw how hard it was for them to update the engine and 76 to be able to play with other people. [SPEAKER_07]: And we've seen some improvements in mods for modding the different creation versions of the creation engine for the different games.

[SPEAKER_07]: But I don't think it's something that they're going to prioritize due to just the difficulty and really dialing that in, but I would be happy to be wrong about that. [SPEAKER_07]: That would be awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: But here, let's transition. [SPEAKER_07]: We have to talk about Obsidian and them working on a new fallout game.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of news around this, but a lot of this stuff has already been discussed out there. [SPEAKER_07]: What I'm more interested in is what do you think they will be working on? [SPEAKER_07]: Do you think they're doing a new Vegas 2? [SPEAKER_07]: because that seems like a really obvious one that's going to sell really well, or do you think that they have plans for something else?

[SPEAKER_07]: Do you think they're moving further in the future? [SPEAKER_07]: Do you think they're moving to a different zone? [SPEAKER_07]: Do you think maybe they're doing something further back in the past? [SPEAKER_07]: What are your thoughts on that? [SPEAKER_07]: What are you hoping for next [SPEAKER_10]: south eastern states, so like you're not going to look woods of Florida, Nola, that type of area, because we basically haven't seen anything from that area, then normal state can brotherhood of steel.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so some of the other games have kind of branched out from the either west coast or east coast, like, you know, the main line games are like, okay, this is California and adjacent areas, or this is the northwest or northeast and adjacent areas on northwest. [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, we've definitely done conversations before on some cool locations that they could do things in.

[SPEAKER_07]: So maybe they listen to some of our episodes and got some of these ideas, but what do you think they're going to go in the past? [SPEAKER_07]: Do you think they're going to go in the future? [SPEAKER_10]: And it thought honestly, I honestly think that there's our human side could be either past or future, but personally, I think it would be better if it was like new Vegas, it was a little side story didn't have anything to do with the overarching story, well, yeah, it does have new Vegas does have stuff to do with the overarching story, but I think that they should continue on with [SPEAKER_10]: not making sequels, like direct sequels, but just having follow-up be like an anthology.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: That makes sense. [SPEAKER_07]: Ashley, that's some thoughts too. [SPEAKER_07]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm considering that the TV shows can't end and it's not done yet because we still have season 3 coming. [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of hope that [SPEAKER_02]: whatever is coming is not nowhere near Vegas and kind of set in the past.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I can see the conflict there with like, yeah, how do you make this? [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know the timeline for the new game to come out. [SPEAKER_02]: And we don't know how long the TV show was going to run, right? [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know if we're going to get a season four or five.

[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, so it's I feel it's safer for them to set it somewhere else. [SPEAKER_02]: before the events of, you know, whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right, right. [SPEAKER_02]: Whether they said it, I mean, there's so many other bits in the timeline they can go to. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so even if they wanted it to be new Vegas adjacent and not butt up against the TV show a little bit, they could move it into, say, a neighboring state, [SPEAKER_07]: That's like deeper in Legion territory or something like that and kind of have a one-off story that exists off on the periphery of the things happening in the TV show.

[SPEAKER_07]: I could see that being possible. [SPEAKER_07]: What do you think about that? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I could see it, but I'd like to go somewhere new. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [UNKNOWN]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: No, but you had some thoughts too. [SPEAKER_07]: What are you thinking? [SPEAKER_09]: We know the TV shows moving farther and further east.

[SPEAKER_09]: We also know that there's a lot of lore in the surrounding states, like you said before. [SPEAKER_09]: So we know that there's gonna be a set in Colorado per own just entirely. [SPEAKER_09]: And an obsidian made a fair amount of lore that goes with Colorado, Denver specifically, City of Hammonds.

[SPEAKER_09]: But they also had, like Salt Lake City was a very, very, very important setting. [SPEAKER_09]: for a significant amount of the story. [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm split equally between it being set and Denver and being set in a solid city, the next game I'm saying, interesting. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, well, because you have new Canaan, which is the remains of like the area around the city, but [SPEAKER_09]: and they have Joshua Graham, who had a massive story inside of New Vegas.

[SPEAKER_09]: So whether it's going to be his introduction, or it's going to be the aftermath of new KNAF, the White Link's, or it could be going the opposite direction, and it could be the [SPEAKER_09]: introduce some of the legions at the very beginning when they were first mentoring Denver and then you're either going to side with whatever whoever the not the twisted hairs I've get who what was the house and then or something like that whatever tribe was occupied was living in Denver yeah what was that what was the name anybody in Rembers the name why I know some of that yeah what was those white legs no no that is dying also [SPEAKER_07]: either either way I think it would be cool to have in one of those locations and we do get mountains in new Vegas but to have it in a more mountainous region that looks a little bit more like the geography of something like Skyrim would be very different for the series that would be way different it would be yeah and also

[SPEAKER_09]: uh, you able to possibly interact with the uh, not the brothers to the on the on clay settlement that is there because we already do know that like said that's why they're going to call it right on the first place and see the three and so you can get a lot of backstory for that you get the back story didn't very get the back story and full zero possibly everything else that is in that general area like exactly the shiny and mountain complex for God say right that is.

[SPEAKER_09]: Like when it comes to US military, it's super secret, well, super secret locations. [SPEAKER_09]: If you do one, shy and non-complex. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that's the bigger the people who think of it, or the one who's the coordinator, well, I know, but. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, as long as they're going to be well with the show and everything works out and we don't get weird lore, you know, to get in time to do that though.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, yeah, how long do they have to make the game on? [SPEAKER_09]: So they just start an development probably season three is going to come out within a year. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And so they're going to have season three and possibly the majority of season four being [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's true.

[SPEAKER_07]: There is speculated there. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I guess there is news out there that obsidian was going to do a follow game. [SPEAKER_07]: It got shot down. [SPEAKER_07]: They retooled it to be a different game like a different world or something. [SPEAKER_07]: And then because they were already significantly into the development of that that might get.

[SPEAKER_07]: Reverse tooled back to a fallout game which means that there's going to be a lot of like Fixing that story if that's what they're doing and making it work and fall it again But I don't know all the time about this. [SPEAKER_07]: These are just kind of leaks or I don't know speculation people have made But low grain you've got your hand up again.

[SPEAKER_07]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_01]: So I might be kind of vastly different with this. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want another new Vegas because it's already had its time twice now, technically. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's been in the show and it had its own game. [SPEAKER_01]: If it was to go back in time, I would like to maybe just like just some character that like was it been like the resource words or something like that, but it's not an open world it's not a typical fallout game like we're used to maybe like a level based shooter like almost like like how you might find a life like called duty campaigns or something like that, but there's still like some exploration to it it's like wider levels.

[SPEAKER_01]: but it's more like a really strong story-driven thing to like, hey, let's explore what the recess wars were about or like the elastric conflict and stuff like this. [SPEAKER_07]: Right, but it wouldn't be like in a more than, it wouldn't be fully open-world. [SPEAKER_07]: That's the piece of it that would be significantly different.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I don't know if I don't know if people would be okay with that. [SPEAKER_07]: That's no one would be okay with that, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Now, because it's like, oh, it's open-world, do whatever you want. [SPEAKER_01]: It's RPG. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, [SPEAKER_01]: considering a city and like, you know, like that I have faith that would do something nice with like that, like a different style of game for fall out, especially it's just going to be something filler.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, I would imagine, and I say that like in a loving way. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think the idea is bad. [SPEAKER_07]: I think that you would have to pitch it as not being developed by obsidian. [SPEAKER_07]: Like I don't have any problem with them going, you know, we're gonna do a spin-off game.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's gonna be a different style of game, but it's gonna be based and fallout. [SPEAKER_07]: This is a fallout RTS. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, cool, let's give it a shot. [SPEAKER_07]: This is a fallout competitive shooter. [SPEAKER_07]: Fine, as long as it makes sense. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't want that.

[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, like I'm not super into that idea, but I wouldn't have a problem with it if it just happened to be in fallout, you know, that's yeah, that's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Like it really doesn't you know, I wouldn't mind something that's just like a kind of like a good game single player story based building up a lot of [SPEAKER_01]: the historical lore, I guess we could say, like the pre-world lore, so that I was going on in America and the world before, as the ship was hitting the fan.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right, right, or just something crazy, like based over in China during the war. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and just like, we've got Void and Punk in here, patiently waiting to chime in. [SPEAKER_07]: What do you guys have? [SPEAKER_11]: I think we both agree that we would be okay with that idea if it were a DLC kind of like Operation Anchorage.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: That's right. [SPEAKER_07]: That kind of feels like Operation Anchorage. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Good point. [SPEAKER_11]: That would I think be the only way I would be okay with it. [SPEAKER_11]: Even if it was like a spin-off game, it would flop so hard.

[SPEAKER_11]: It would be Brotherhood Tactics, Brotherhood of Steel, shut up, fall-out tactics, Brotherhood of Steel. [SPEAKER_07]: Man, YouTube in the same room is funny stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think you could make it work as long as you are, you have to market it correctly. [SPEAKER_07]: You can't give a city and a chance to make something as exciting as maybe new Vegas 2 and then it'd be a completely different type of game.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like people would be like super upset, but you could give people a new Vegas 2 and something different by a different studio. [SPEAKER_07]: And then just see if it comes out good, great, you know, that's fine. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, this is some hot takes on this of city and idea, any other thoughts on the, well, I hear, well, we'll go back to Void and Pumpkin in chat.

[SPEAKER_07]: Screen for death says I want new Vegas to and golden says if they do a new Vegas to, of course, depending on how they do it, game save transfer would be cool. [SPEAKER_07]: That's an interesting idea. [SPEAKER_07]: That's a cool idea. [SPEAKER_07]: All right, Void, other thoughts? [SPEAKER_11]: So I am more particular on the great lakes or midwest idea, kind of like Golden is saying in chat and Twitch.

[SPEAKER_11]: I we already know that there's I believe an on clay base in Chicago. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: Yes. [SPEAKER_11]: It would be more of like along the lines of a follow up three story line. [SPEAKER_11]: But I also know that we would have a lot more aquatic if we did Chicago specifically because the water treatment plan or water filtration plan is offshore like half a mile.

[SPEAKER_11]: Half a mile to a mile. [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe they could flesh out some of the things they were going to do in Fallout 4, but put it in Chicago. [SPEAKER_07]: Right off the coast, yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: And I mean, I live in the Midwest and I've always wanted to play a video game in around my local area.

[SPEAKER_11]: I grew up in northwest Indiana, so I know Chicago very well, and I would love it. [SPEAKER_11]: But we also know that Indiana has multiple nuclear silos and sites. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so you play that into the story for sure. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: And I, I think it would be best in the Midwest.

[SPEAKER_11]: That's in the Midwest going at what's going on. [SPEAKER_07]: That's your slogan best best in the Midwest. [SPEAKER_11]: That's what we say about the corn. [SPEAKER_07]: It's best in the Midwest. [SPEAKER_07]: Nice. [SPEAKER_07]: We're going close to the end of the episode. [SPEAKER_07]: Any other thoughts about Obsidian and what they're working on any other hopes fill?

[SPEAKER_07]: Is he fills hand? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: To that word, little green said, I think historically every time whoever was making fallout, when they tried to remove the RPG stuff, it didn't end well, it didn't end well in tactics. [SPEAKER_05]: and I think Operation Anchorage was not a very well perceived DLC and I really like the ideas that overhead with the Salt Lake City or Denver and I would also like a Midwestadier and other ideas I would like would be like either the NCF from here like Baha or like in the North or [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, you can go in either of those directions and end up with more content.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's lots of places you can go with this for sure. [SPEAKER_07]: Pumpkin, did you have something else? [SPEAKER_07]: I think pumpkin has other stuff to say. [SPEAKER_08]: So, you all know I'm partial to the Montana. [SPEAKER_08]: And I think a Montana base game would be like follow a single player, fallout 76.

[SPEAKER_08]: So if they went that route, I feel like it could be very fun. [SPEAKER_07]: Just large large landmen, large large landmen, open land. [SPEAKER_08]: whether you're being nobody there again. [SPEAKER_08]: We don't need nobody to get in Montana at some of the most nuclear silos. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_11]: I'm actively making a large scale TTRPG map for the fallout 2D20 system. [SPEAKER_11]: only the western half, I have marked out 127 nuclear sites that are known. [SPEAKER_11]: Wow. [SPEAKER_11]: Wow. [SPEAKER_11]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_11]: Wow. [SPEAKER_07]: Interesting stuff. [SPEAKER_08]: So definitely a spot that probably get hit pretty hard.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, probably be bombed, but definitely he writes some storylines around some of those silos that don't get hit or something. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Totally. [SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: Any other thoughts? [SPEAKER_07]: Last thoughts on ERA. [SPEAKER_07]: Here's got thoughts.

[SPEAKER_07]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know where this would go because I'm probably alone with this. [SPEAKER_03]: That's why. [SPEAKER_03]: This thought, but, um, and fall out for, I loved that dialogue system that I could hear and see what my character was saying, and I know I've read that a lot of people did not like this.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, it's highly contentious. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: But my reason is because I prefer videos over books because I'm just a slow reader. [SPEAKER_03]: I have to imagine it in my head like the scene, what is happening in the book. [SPEAKER_03]: So it takes forever for me to read a book.

[SPEAKER_03]: And also I noticed in like three and new Vegas because you had just the lines you choose from. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember those those conversations that well as I do the ones in and fall out for because I could [SPEAKER_03]: follow it so much better when my character was saying whatever the response was, so I liked that part of of Fallout 4.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's why I probably played it so many times over and over again and kind of just change okay now playing a little bit different. [SPEAKER_03]: What is this answer in this one? [SPEAKER_11]: Right, right. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's what I would probably not ever going to get it, because it's probably not.

[SPEAKER_07]: I can think of, I totally get why you would like that and prefer that system. [SPEAKER_07]: I also, I think a lot of their own justification internally was a lot of what you said. [SPEAKER_07]: Like it's more engaging to watch a character have a conversation, but I also think that that does create limitations around building your character.

[SPEAKER_07]: And the conversation system in New Vegas is highly fleshed out with all sorts of different [SPEAKER_07]: options of things you can say depending on the perks and things that you have and the amount of dialogs would be a lot bigger. [SPEAKER_07]: They kind of capped it at four options each part of the conversation and four in order to kind of limit it but you can really do that.

[SPEAKER_07]: You don't have to hire a bunch of new voice actors for all of that stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: I can see why they would probably stay away from that but I totally get why you prefer it and appreciate that. [SPEAKER_07]: So I guess we'll see [SPEAKER_07]: I bet somebody will drop a mod somewhere that'll just like read all the, all the stuff in Texas Beach kind of mod that just reads it to you.

[SPEAKER_07]: So that might make it a little bit easier. [SPEAKER_07]: Ash, let's jump to you. [SPEAKER_07]: You're going to wrap this up for us in the conversation about of city and you started it. [SPEAKER_07]: You're going to wrap it up. [SPEAKER_07]: What are your final thoughts? [SPEAKER_02]: I, I would love to see a blend of the, the two like dialogue styles, like the voice, you have the options that we see in three new Vegas, but, yeah, the really dynamic system of yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I know the logistics of it would just be a nightmare. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, having worked at a company that did some tech stuff and being the guy that didn't work, and coordinating things with the external staff that actually did a lot of the work on the app that we they worked.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it was just kind of a, I mean, it was kind of a nothing app. [SPEAKER_07]: It was nowhere nearly as complex as one of these games. [SPEAKER_07]: I can tell you that from the outside, we all look at the tech that goes into these things and we think it's a lot easier than it actually is.

[SPEAKER_07]: And if they're, if they're pushing to get it out soon, they probably won't be adding that that would be my guess, but it's not bad to want things, you know, to be like, well, this would be my optimal version of this so you never know. [SPEAKER_07]: but thank you everybody for joining me for this episode of the show.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to take a quick quick little break here to thank our patrons and we've got we have three new reviews that came out so you guys can react to the reviews and then we're going to wrap it up with everybody. [SPEAKER_07]: But thank you to everyone who supports the show on Patreon and welcome to our two lips.

[SPEAKER_07]: Our newest member, thanks for signing up, and shoutouts to our Sentry Bots, a germinator, Nova, Maine Monkey, and ERA. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you so much for your continued support and everyone else who helped support the show. [SPEAKER_07]: And we got some reviews I have to read out on Apple.

[SPEAKER_07]: We have one from, let's see, fall out. [SPEAKER_07]: fan hen who says my new favorite pod robots is a great host with a not grinding voice like other people. [SPEAKER_07]: I love the patron chats and if you love lore stories games and more, you will love this pod. [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks Tom for a great time.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, thank you so much, fought fan hen. [SPEAKER_07]: And man, you guys are big on their list as well. [SPEAKER_07]: That's awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: And then this one from Fenrier, who says great podcast, I love this podcast, and have some ideas, ultrasound, how follow one was almost canceled, and vault 120, the fall of four canceled under water vault.

[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you robots, and don't be surprised if I join the patron chat scene. [SPEAKER_07]: We'd love to have you. [SPEAKER_07]: And those are some fun ideas. [SPEAKER_07]: I've been thinking about some other things. [SPEAKER_07]: I've been wanting to keep bouncing back and forth between the series of things I do and these one-off episodes on some of these more interesting topics.

[SPEAKER_07]: So maybe I'll hit on some of those in coming months. [SPEAKER_07]: And then we also have this one from the vegan dude who says long time Listener first time reviewer, Binne followed fan forever and found this podcast I even joined the Patreon and forgot to leave a review. [SPEAKER_07]: This podcast is great for a long time fans of the series and brand new ones.

[SPEAKER_07]: My girlfriend has zero experience with Fallout before me and started the show with me. [SPEAKER_07]: She dived into this podcast and has been a blast with it too. [SPEAKER_07]: is having a blast with it. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you so much for all of you taking the time to leave those reviews and everything and keeping supporting the show and keeping this going and really do appreciate it.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm super, super excited about three new Vegas and I'm just waiting to dive back in once those are available and then whatever else we get in the next few years, it's going to be amazing. [SPEAKER_07]: But [SPEAKER_07]: Tell you what. [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to wrap this up. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you all for joining me.

[SPEAKER_07]: We'll go through each one of you real quick and you can just, you know, one or two sentences say, hey, this is stuff I'm doing in the world, go check it out and this is how you get a hold of me if you want to reach out if you want to leave that sub to you. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll go on screen in the order everybody's in.

[SPEAKER_07]: We'll start with Ash again. [SPEAKER_07]: Ash, thanks for joining us. [SPEAKER_02]: It's always a pleasure to be here. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for having me. [SPEAKER_02]: You can find me on the discord, same username, brachio, dreamer, ash, again, happy to chat. [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing really going on at the moment.

[SPEAKER_02]: Future plans, things. [SPEAKER_02]: I would be at Mojave to make him this year. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nice, nice. [SPEAKER_02]: We're just everything else's book. [SPEAKER_02]: We're just figuring out transportation. [SPEAKER_07]: Awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: That's awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: That's so exciting.

[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be in my head. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay there. [SPEAKER_07]: Then people can hang out and see, are you going to dress up? [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: I do have a couple of things that I'm going to be working on. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm also giving out trinkets. [SPEAKER_07]: Sweet.

[SPEAKER_02]: I have trinkets I'm working on. [SPEAKER_07]: That's so fun. [SPEAKER_07]: Awesome stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks for joining us. [SPEAKER_07]: Void Pumpkin. [SPEAKER_07]: I think there should be a fallout creature that's a Void Pumpkin. [SPEAKER_07]: It's just like a mutated combination of both of you.

[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, we're a centaur. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's like a cent. [SPEAKER_08]: It's like a centaur, yes. [SPEAKER_08]: use our face models on it. [SPEAKER_11]: That's all. [SPEAKER_11]: It is a highly intelligent humanoid center. [SPEAKER_11]: And I am on the back of his head like Voldemort in the in the philosopher's stove.

[SPEAKER_07]: That would be awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I've been wanting is somebody who's really good at modding to just make some of the crazy mod ideas that I have on occasion. [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe they could start with this one. [SPEAKER_07]: That would be if you are somebody who mods and you could make a void pumpkin [SPEAKER_07]: We can drop it in one of the games.

[SPEAKER_07]: That would be amazing. [SPEAKER_07]: But what do you guys have? [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I know you guys. [SPEAKER_08]: You guys go so again as it stated last time I'm on the on the talk he's the tism. [SPEAKER_08]: So we do tism talk Where we talk just about anything and everything we do have a X and a blue sky.

[SPEAKER_08]: So you can find us on there plus YouTube and anywhere you can hear podcasts you can find done [SPEAKER_11]: moments or tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, tism talk, t

[SPEAKER_11]: This is what this thing came up in my entire time. [SPEAKER_07]: You're getting a glimpse of all of their podcasts right now. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's good. [SPEAKER_11]: But also, he and I will be at JenCon this year. [SPEAKER_11]: So I know this is coming out Thursday. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Also be very soon. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: First, first day of JenCon is when this is going to be out. [SPEAKER_11]: So if you find us, you find us. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Just listen for their voices. [SPEAKER_07]: Look for their voice. [SPEAKER_07]: Listen. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what's next. [SPEAKER_00]: You're any more of them. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: There you go. [SPEAKER_07]: If you talk like that, the entire GenCon, I will give you $5. [SPEAKER_07]: Do I need to record it? [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_11]: It's vlogging anyway. [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_11]: We're out of our vault vlogging. [SPEAKER_11]: So. [SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: A little thanks guys. [SPEAKER_07]: Nova, what you got going on, anything? [SPEAKER_07]: Nothing a particular actually just existing cool. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a good life. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a good life You got a bunch of dogs keep you company.

[SPEAKER_09]: I do. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I have five of my house right now only two of my three are clients because You're very familiar with that just not the dog part. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I have a dog who barks when I try to actually do my work And then I have to be like stop barking. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm recording [SPEAKER_09]: I was talking about the stress of, I know, I was taking it in a cuter direction, but yeah, you're talking a little fluff, you're talking a little bit of cotton ball, right?

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he's a little guy, but he's loud, man. [SPEAKER_09]: I thought so, yeah, I have a little bit of that Yorkian take care of. [SPEAKER_08]: Every time I walk past me, you're right. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, my neighbors were my neighborhood look at me where I'm like I'm just holding him.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I think in now Sorry, I don't know wait when we need to do. [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry about that don't call the cops me, please Yeah, yeah, yeah, well cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, thanks for joining us Little green here. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, little green here up next. [SPEAKER_07]: Anything going on?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, brain fart, but just going on right now, I actually just got my part 107 drone certification. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to be pumping out a lot of just random drone content on my Instagram, or maybe you can find me in my photography and soon to be drone work.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's little green. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just score photography on Instagram. [SPEAKER_01]: I've had a couple of people. [SPEAKER_01]: find me who was the last one. [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, Slant, O'Neigh showed out shout out to you. [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, Slant, O'Neigh first. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: The last one to follow me. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, no, you can find me on the discord as well. [SPEAKER_01]: And if you want, need someone to play 76 on the computer. [SPEAKER_01]: I play almost daily. [SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, I'm sure you're going to get some cool grown shots being that you're like a photography guy and get some cool stuff for that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yes, I'm excited for that. [SPEAKER_01]: And then was the next week. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing a drifting event with my FPV drones that I built. [SPEAKER_01]: So you'll see some stuff soon. [SPEAKER_07]: Very cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Very cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks for joining us. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_07]: You're anything going on. [SPEAKER_07]: Anything you want to share? [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing really just. [SPEAKER_03]: hanging out on spare time playing games, playing the seasons, fall out 76, sometimes ira underscore of moody on playstation same name on on the discord. [SPEAKER_03]: Awesome, it's pretty much you.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, it's a simple life. [SPEAKER_07]: That's great. [SPEAKER_07]: Awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, thanks for joining us again. [SPEAKER_07]: And no fail, no thrill. [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks for thanks for getting up early. [SPEAKER_07]: You got up early in order to join us this time. [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks for having me.

[SPEAKER_05]: I really glad I made it and could be back. [SPEAKER_05]: I missed all of you guys. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I actually have to have a little something going on. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm [SPEAKER_05]: Kind of a regular now at Syndrica class, the German Fallout lock-ast, and I think starting next Tuesday, Andy of the Duka class, then I are going live on Twitch, and we're going to play Fallout 2, like we're 250 year olds in the 90s.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's great. [SPEAKER_07]: That's so fun. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's crazy. [SPEAKER_07]: I was older than 15, [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's you came out because I'm so old. [SPEAKER_07]: But I hope you guys have a great time and I hope people pop in. [SPEAKER_07]: You want to give the Twitch channel name just in case people want to follow you there?

[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's it's it's a local cast. [SPEAKER_05]: It's just a new cast which. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: Awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll get luck with that. [SPEAKER_07]: That's so fun. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_07]: Leviathan, you got anything for us?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the same as ever, I don't do much, if someone wants to reach me, you can directly write me on this court, as I'm probably not around when most people are around, besides that I'm gonna be on the album vault festival in Berlin, in the flash world, right, right. [SPEAKER_06]: But besides that, not much.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, maybe they'll say, hi, that's awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll have fun with that. [SPEAKER_07]: And then Adam's child, knew you're wrapping it up for us. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, thank you very much. [SPEAKER_04]: My name is Adam's child. [SPEAKER_04]: You can find me on the Discord of robots ready underneath the same name.

[SPEAKER_04]: You can find me on Instagram at underscore.jt underscore Sims with two M's. [SPEAKER_04]: You can find me on backstage at the same name. [SPEAKER_04]: And you can find me now on IMDB because I found out I have a page, and I claimed it. [SPEAKER_04]: So look me up, I've been acting a lot, [SPEAKER_04]: I just am about to finish my second feature for this month, so we can look for those in the future.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know when they're coming out, so I can't give a date, but that's what I've been doing, so if you want me, come find me. [SPEAKER_07]: Awesome, congratulations on getting some rolls and getting some stuff out there. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you very much. [SPEAKER_07]: Very cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Very cool.

[SPEAKER_07]: And Kat Pat, I guess I believe jumped off the chat, but thanks for being here, Kat Pat. [SPEAKER_07]: And thank you to all of you in chat for joining us, everybody, for hanging out. [SPEAKER_07]: So again, we're so excited about new fallout stuff and I'll be revealing things if there's stuff that comes out and for things to discuss on the show or dig into and I'm super excited about getting to play fall of three again with new updates.

[SPEAKER_07]: And then I'll have some content focused around Fallout 3 as we get closer and closer to whatever that release date is. [SPEAKER_07]: So all sorts of fun stuff coming for the show in the future. [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks for being here, everybody, and stay safe out there. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a crazy place.

[SPEAKER_07]: In the way sled, we'll see you next time. [SPEAKER_07]: To plug into everything else we're doing, check out robotsradio.net, reach out to me on Twitter at robots underscore radio, check out the robots radio rocket club where you can join me and a bunch of our other creators creating your podcast starting a new podcast or helping your current podcast grow.

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