Week 3 Fantasy Football News: Major Injuries, Waiver Stashes & Start/Sit Decisions (Ep. 2216)

What a Jackson, Dart, Caleb, Williams, Jaden, Daniels, Aaron, Jones, Puka, Nakua, Zay, Flowers, and half the league have in common. They're all hurt. They're all injured. We've got to talk about it. That's what we're doing here on the tailgate. I'm Chris Welsh. That's Andrew Erickson. Welcome in to a live edition of the tailgate that we do on our YouTube channel, which you guys can find at youtube.com slash tailgate NFL. If you listen on the podcast, you guys can come and hang out with us. interact with us. We're here to talk.

But these are the five big stories that we're going to be covering midweek before we get into our week three predictions. And that's what we got in store. Andrew Erickson, every waking moment is a new injury. We do this. We do this song and dance. We're like, oh, look, it's not injury year. It is an injury year. It's always like this. Week three is getting pretty brutal. We're Are you OK? That's what I need. Are you doing OK?

Are you injured?

I'm feeling pretty good, to be honest. Feel healthy, alive in week three, feeling good. Not as good as a lot of these NFL players, but it's a brutal sport, man. And you can never be too careful when it comes to guys that come back into the games and they're nicked up and they say right after the game, oh, I'm fine. I feel good. That adrenaline is pumping and they wake up the next day and they're like, oh, no, I'm I don't feel nearly as good as I felt like 12 hours ago. So yeah, the Aaron Jones thing obviously is the top headline in terms of what just happened in terms of breaking news. But I don't want to say I'm like totally surprised that he's on the injury report to the extent obviously we didn't know. But

I mean, he was visibly frustrated last week after he got banged up. And although the reporting was initially positive, he is an older running back. He's dealt with injuries in the past. So, yeah, DJ Dallas, Devon Claiborne, buckle up.

Those are going to be the questions. That's number one. That's we're going to jump into. But if you guys do want to interact with us, you're welcome to. We cover fantasies. We can talk fantasy. We can talk real NFL. This is the chance and the opportunity to hang with us. But jumping into the headlines, not into that one, is the Aaron Jones news. That is like the newest piece.

So new that when we did the running back ranks episode, we did not really have any feel for what this was going on. But he is dealing with a knee injury. that knee injury is to the level where they are now questioning if he's going to be able to play. And I got to point out to you, sometimes we have coach speak, and obviously there's great coach speak indexes and stuff, but the level of coaches talking about a player not being able to play and then them not playing, it's high so far this season. So there's a good correlation.

And they were talking in the press conference, as you mentioned, about DJ Dallas and Damon Claiborne. So talking those guys up, raising those guys up a little bit, If Aaron Jones is out, it's going to be a really weird dynamic, probably with like a DJ Dallas running, you know, third downs, maybe some early stuff. And like if you were caring from a fantasy perspective, I kind of think Claiborne would be the guy I care about. But what's your make of this situation? Is this going to be an opportunity for Claiborne to kind of prove what he's all about for a lot?

I think so. Right. Right. The coaches love him. He's a grinder. He's good in pass pro, etc. But even if that guy, in this case, DJ Dallas, ends up seeing the majority of work or snaps or touches, his upside is probably pretty capped, right? We kind of know who DJ Dallas is, right? He's a journeyman running back.

good at pass protection, third downs, like you kind of alluded to. Whereas Jamon Claiborne, to make the family guy reference, could be a boat, right? You never know. He could be anything. He could be a boat. He could be terrible. We don't know. But he is the upside play here by far. Even if he flames out, at least we'll know right away, okay, yeah, this is not going to work for him. They're just going to roll DJ Dallas because of pass pro. The matchup itself is brutal for running backs in terms of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Todd Bowles, the one thing that he does defensively is try to stop the run. And if you're Kevin O'Connell and you're already down to now your third and fourth string running back,

don't you just lean into the passing game like a little bit more? Kyler Murray is going to be making his second start, obviously getting knocked out of week one.

But how unideal is this for Kyler Murray to to step into a situation after getting smashed? And then now you've got no running game. Like if you're you already had no running game, really. But now you have no running game. I mean, he's going to have to do it with his legs, those tiny little legs. And then he's going to have to do it slinging the ball.

Like from a fantasy perspective, it's kind of fun, but it doesn't seem ideal for a dude that just got hit off of his first run and dealt with a concussion.

Yeah. Interested to see what Kyler does with his legs, whether he's more hesitant. I mean, I believe when he got concussed, it was, it was on a, it was on a scramble.

I thought it was, I thought it was on a scramble, right?

I'm pretty sure that chat help us out here. Just make sure to double check. But Maybe just go through the passing game, right? Feature your best players, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Hawkinson with the running backs down here. I think that it's very viable to believe that O'Connell is just going to throw the ball more, especially when you look at what Todd Bowles is going to allow them to do. Todd Bowles always sells out to sell the run.

How do you attack this Buccaneers defense? It's through the air. You have Kyler Murray. All right, time to put up or shut up, right? You want to get paid next year by some team, by the Vikings, somebody else. Kyler Murray has to deliver in the spot. I mean, dude, Deshaun Watson just had his best game in like the past five years against this defense. So if Kyler Murray can't get it done, that's more about Kyler, I think, than anything else. So obviously the running back injury to Jones, I feel bad for the guy because he's such a gamer.

The team leaned on him so heavily. The most carries he's ever had as a Minnesota Viking. And that's the reason why, because he does get banged up. And in hindsight, I'm sure the Vikings coaching staff is like, yeah, we probably shouldn't have given him that many carries last week.

So so that's a great point. That was what I want to ask you. Do you think so? Let's just say like. Let's go to the scenario that Aaron Jones is just out and it's Claiborne and DJ Dallas. But the next week, Jones is like, hey, I'm good to go. We're going to get it. Do you think we've now seen the last of heavy carries for Aaron Jones because of what happened? So my point would be, because Jordan Mason's on the IR, is this an opportunity where a guy like Damon Claiborne can finally prove himself for a multi-week standpoint? Because I don't know if the team, like you're alluding to, can feel comfortable giving him 20 plus touches.

They probably want to go back to like the 12 to 13 touches. So they got to find that somewhere else. DJ Dallas is fun and all, but Claiborne would be the big play option. Do you think we are, do you think legitimately we are going to have a viable Claiborne moving forward or it's just going to be a mess?

I think the play long-term is still Jordan Mason, right? I think all the buzz this off season was Jordan Mason is going to be the main ball carrier in his backfield. And of course he gets banged up Remember, it's a thumb injury. It's not like this guy has a busted up knee or MCL or any of these types of injuries. Like he's just sitting with, I mean, he's probably like, dude, I'm like fully healthy, ready to go.

It's just, I can't, I can't hold onto the ball because my thumb is messed up.

Let's just cast that stuff. Give it some, some sticky on it and just like go.

Cause I believe that last week, Trey Hendrickson, the pastor for the Ravens, he played with a broken finger. And it's just like, well, you're a pass rusher. They do the club thing and you're ready to go. But like certain positions, you just, oh, you're on IR. Like if you're a defensive player, you break your thumb, it's like too bad. You're playing, dude. Like we're going to wrap it up.

And can you just put the ball in the other hand? Like just like maybe it's just super uncomfortable and club out.

And maybe they're like, I mean, if Demon Claiborne and DJ Dallas Slay, a bunch of turds, This week, maybe like trying to get Jordan Mason. Maybe they make it. I know. Didn't they also add the Jerome Ford as well? He's on their practice squad. He's another guy that, again, is a serviceable running back in terms of catching passes out of the backfield and pass protection. So he probably will also play a factor in here. But in terms of explosive upside, Timon Claiborne can definitely add that type of element that you're not going to get from someone like DJ Dallas, who is more of the going to eat your vegetables type of running back where he's out there going to play the snaps you need to. special teams,

et cetera.

I was like, Hogan, take your vitamins. Dude, how badass would it be just running back with a big club and just clubbing defenders over the side of the head?

What running back do you think would play with like a.

Derek Henry.

Why am I even asking this question?

Didn't even have to ask. Cam Scadaboo.

Oh, yeah. Cam Scadaboo would play with two broken hands. He'd be like, dude, He would.

Be willing to be rolled in a wheelchair across the line and he would just– he's the juggernaut.

I'm the juggernaut.

And just slam. Is there– OK. So those are the two obvious ones. You didn't even need to say it. Can you think of a third? Who's a third running– is there one other running back that would play with a clubbed hand? It's got to be like a bruiser.

It's got to be a bruiser.

Oh, well. I was thinking Pacheco. Isaiah Pacheco would be one of those dudes with like– his feet never stop.

I mean that's his issue. That's why he's on Ninja Reserve again. Because– Oh my God. He just runs like a psychopath. Yeah.

Oh, Sal said if Nick Chubb was still available. Yeah, I could see that.

Do you think, do you think Ramondre would be better at not fumbling if he had a club for hands?

Not unless they would let him Velcro it to his thing. You know what I'm saying? Like that would be worse. He just have to keep it. Maybe if he just kept it in one hand and just focused on that and kept it away. Cause like that ball just flies out. It's ridiculous, but that's a, Piece of news to pay attention to. This might be big with Aaron Jones coming out.

There's other big news we're going to be talking about in a second and definitely will to chat with you guys like Mr. E was saying I was in the midst of sending out trades for Aaron Jones, heard the news and quickly canceled those. Yeah, get your Aaron Jones trade fours out. You do not want to be buying right now. Maybe a buy for Jordan Mason. Actually, this might be one of those opportunities. You can buy him on the absolute dirt cheap, but we will be love to interact with more of you guys. And we've got more stories coming up, but this is an opportunity. We talk about giveaways and I've said, one of the greatest giveaway opportunities is on this channel because you can win a Todd Gurley autograph Rams Jersey. And all you've got

to do is subscribe to the tailgate YouTube channel right now. We are closing in on 2000. Let's get it there. And then just drop a comment below. If you sub and comment, that's it. Nothing else you got to do. We'll be announcing a winner on the channel, so make sure to turn on notifications so you're here for all new videos and you can claim your prize. One of the best opportunities to win, and it is a pretty awesome one. Get us over that 2K marker, win a jersey, and have some fun here on the tailgate. Story number two, big one, Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart, we knew he was hurt.

We all became lipreaders. from the four to six weeks. And then it was like, hey, there might be some good news. Well, we found out today Jackson Dart is going to have season ending surgery, according to Ian Rapoport. And I think Mike Ruffalo reported it. So it is Jameis Winston season. Another brutal blow for the Giants over the last couple of years here, losing all their players.

And I don't know, what is your make of it? We kind of talked through that. It all seems to run through Jameis Winston because if Winston can get back to like you know, the crazy gunslinger, like he likes to target main guys. So that could be good for neighbors, but you just got all these pieces that are floating out there and they just lost their quarterback and they look so unprepared for him to come in. That was what we couldn't get over on the rank show. Just wildly unprepared him or the team or whatever. I don't know if he just thought he was going to just be a soundbite and holding the clipboard all season, but he looks so wildly unprepared this year. Your reactions to Jackson darts season ending injury and the giants chances to

be competitive.

Robbed of something really special to see between Jackson Dart and Malik neighbors who have barely, they played one full game together. One, one. And that was week one. That was the only game in Malik neighbors. You could argue it wasn't even a hundred percent. So it's gut wrenching for giants fans to see your franchise quarterback go down to a season ending knee injury. And the fact that it seemed like it was going to be okay. Reports were that he wanted to go back in the game and then Harbaugh on the sidelines, like, four to six weeks, like the mouth readers are trying to figure out what's going on. And it's just, it's just absolutely brutal. I thought that the Giants looked so well in week one,

Jackson Dart was in such command of that offense. And maybe that's why they look so bad with James Winston, because James Winston ain't got, ain't getting any reps because it's all about Jackson Dart and him being the commander of this ship. So it's all about, does this offense now let James Winston do his thing and help evaluate the rest of the roster? a lot of young players on this team. I always thought the Giants were going to be a play for 2027. That's what I said on a lot of the offseason previews of the New York Giants. And after week one, I felt really dumb because it looked like, no, this team has arrived. This team is ready to go. And just, I was so impressed by what I saw, but now it's okay. Well,

we got to wait for 2027. I do think it's encouraging that we are seeing quarterbacks. A lot of these players in general just make comebacks from the season ending injuries. So I don't think that the chapter or the book, the story on Jackson Dart in the NFL is over in any way, shape or form. I think that he can definitely make a strong comeback. He's a young player.

Very exciting. But as for 2026, I am very, I guess I'm not really sure how I feel about Greg Roman and Matt Nagy and Callahan, this boomer coaching staff that I was not high on entering the season. Are they going to be willing to let James Winston cook? Or is it, no, we got to reel them in. We got to run the football. Like that's what I'm, that's like what I'm scared about the most. Cause I don't know what is going to be the solution here because clearly whatever they did on Monday night, they can't do that again. Cause that was downright atrocious.

But that's also the thing that you worry about. If that is what is more of the norm, then they will try to run the ball. And then that's where you're facing this discussion of like Malik neighbors is going to be this unrealized talent and we can't get the Isaiah likely that we thought we were going to get And if teams are stacking the box and Cam Scadaboo is going to be average and that that's the worry.

Like there is two huge paths. One of those paths is, oh, my gosh, everybody's cooking because Jameis Winston's going ballistic and they're throwing the ball. And, you know, they're like the Cardinals of last year where it's like number one pass offense and you're getting volume and all this type of stuff or they're in. epic disaster because they don't know what to do and they can't do anything and they're trying to hide jamis winston all year and that's what i'm concerned about and i don't know the answer and probably until we see this coming week where you've had a full week of installing winston and you know i guess as a first teamer and everything.

Yeah i'm very curious to see what this offense does look like under winston because it just can't it can't be the same thing that they did on on monday night because i'm totally unprepared not ready to go whatsoever scataboo was like the only guy that was making plays even you know And he's going to try to keep his team motivated as high as, again, he's screaming at guys on the sideline, trying to get people going. He's going to be the heartbeat of this offense. And I mean, there's a scenario where he and Jameis Winston can kind of embrace each other and they can really, they're eating W's, they're doing all this thing. So I mean, the Giants, I think they're going to be competitive still. I still

think they have a lot of talent on defense. They have a young defensive unit. And two, the fact that Dart is out and the Giants are probably lost any chance of making the playoffs. I know after last week's game or week one, I was like, man, I've been on the wrong team to be worst to first in the division after being high in the Titans and that looking like a bad pick after now. Now I've moved all that to the Saints. Now they're the team that's going to go from worst to first in their division.

So that's the second year quarterback train that I'm going to be riding because right now, Tyler Shuck and the Saints, they're cooking.

Can you do a W without any movement? Can you just like without help go to a W?

No.

Like without.

I can only do this.

I can only do Spock. That was what I was going to do next is I know people that would say, can you do, can you Spock it? But can you do both? Spock both?

Spock both. Yeah. Oh, Spock both.

Oh, you're struggling.

No.

Yeah. Okay. Now W both.

I got to think about it.

Okay.

That's okay.

Think about it.

Let's see it.

Eat a W. You got to cross them.

I got to cross them. Oh, I can't do this.

Oh, you can't. You can't dub. No dubs for Erickson.

Sorry. Here are my fingers.

That looked like a mess.

Yeah.

High fingers. Big, big ass hands. Jesus. All right, we're going to go to the third topic in a second, but I want to remind everyone, we're going to get to see some fantasy questions that are coming in here. We will definitely drop that here in a second. Totally down for it. So hold tight. We need a super chat that jumped in. We'll answer a few of these questions.

We want to at least get through one more of these topics before we do. Jonathan Brooks headed to the IR. Also going to throw this out there that there just is another running back one. Jonah Coleman is also banged up after all the positive talk, but the Jonathan Brooks thing is the big major focus. More running backs that are banged up from Aaron Jones. to Jordan Brooks. We kind of had this as an expectation. He's going to be out six weeks. This is a time for Chuba to hurt. And you got the whole Broncos that are banged up. Just some thoughts. Do you think Jonathan Brooks is a lost cause in 2026?

I think so. I don't, I don't, I don't know what else to say.

And it's what we got wrong. We all got it wrong. Like, wait, it was in front of our face the whole time. It was right there. It was like, oh, hey, look, this is a guy that can never stay healthy and he's injured. And we were just like, yeah, OK, push that aside. It was in our it was it was in front of us the whole time. And we got too excited. We got way too excited. And poof, this is of course, of course, this was going to happen.

Of course, he was going to go on to the I.R. Where could we have possibly taken some odds on Jonathan Brooks going to the I.R.? Please.

Oh, man. in hindsight too, and I almost remember this in real time, doing drafts and seeing Jonathan Brooks on the board, Marshawn Lloyd on the board. You know who actually was the pick we should have been making 10 times out of 10 was Blake Corum. That should have been the pick.

Oh, well, true.

But what I'm saying, like Blake Corum was never recognized as the play there because he never had the green light to becoming the starting running back for his team. But the thing is, he's actually good. And he's actually proven in the NFL that he did last year that he was good. And Brooks and Lloyd, to an extent, they were their projections, right? And sometimes projections hit and you feel good about it, but sometimes they don't. And with Brooks, it's just injury after injury. And it seems like it's always one step forward, but then two steps back with Brooks. And yeah, it's gut-wrenching. And when he got that preseason injury towards the end of draft season, it's kind of like in the back of my mind,

it's like, oh man, like, could this be bad? But like at that point, like all the sleeper lists had already been published, like the breakouts, the league winners. It's like, He's already on there.

But also, you had like Chuba. Chuba was like kind of banged up. And the coaching staff started to turn. They're like, Brooks looks really electric. And we're like, okay, let's go. And then it was just like all of a sudden the season started. And it was like, oh, Brooks is a little bit banged up. Chuba is now healthy, by the way. And then it just steamrolled. And here we are going into week three with Chuba looking awesome.

The offense running. And Jonathan Brooks back on the IR. And he'll be gone longer than the IR. Six weeks, they're saying, at least.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm with you. I think this is a lost season I'd happy.

I love to. I would love to be wrong about this too, especially because like I have Jonathan Brooks, but in shallower fantasy leagues, like if you don't have an IR spot, he's gone. Like you're dropping them. And I don't think the expectation should be high for when he returns. Right. Unless something happens with Chuba Hubbard. We've seen him break down at the end of seasons before. I'm kind of curious to see what else the Carolina Panthers do. but they're running back. I know they have A.J. Dillon as the primary backup now. They do have the other Travis, or not Travis, Trevor Etienne slash A. Chan. He hasn't changed his name. I really want him to become a thing this year because that is going to put Travis

Etienne or A. Chan down. really under fire because like, well, you didn't change your last name, but your brother. Oh, that's a good point.

But we need him to commit to ETN though. We need him to be like, I don't want to be the ETN thing. I want to be ETN. Yes. We want like brothers fighting and it's like completely different. I completely agree with you.

I don't know. I mean, we're going to do, we're going to get head-to-head matchups, dude. The Panthers play the Saints twice. And if Travis going head-to-head against Trevor, one of them is, I'm Travis Achan, my brother, Travis Achan. Dude, I can't. The fact that they both start with the same name.

Trevor, Etienne, Travis, Etienne. And then you have Etienne and then I think Devon and that like pauses me all the time.

Do the Dolphins play the Saints? That's going to be brutal for the broadcast. Etienne, go on. Imagine listening to that game on the radio and being like, who has the ball?

Yeah, exactly. You're trying to wonder and hand off to Etienne and you're like, which team?

Which one?

Then they'll have like a generic name tackle Smith with the tackle. I'll be like, what's happening? What team are we doing that? So yeah, expectation, Jonathan Brooks to the eye are pretty brutal blow here. I will take a few questions in just a second, but I need to tell you guys about this new prediction market called poly market.

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All right, some fantasy questions from people. It doesn't have to be fantasy related here on the tailgate, by the way. How do you guys feel about stashing Tyreek? Was Copeland with a super chat in here? I just don't feel like Tyreek. I know Tyreek has been sharing videos and stuff like that. And I've seen some of the Twitter doctors talking positive. Maybe he comes back in like week 10 or 12. I just don't feel super optimistic about it.

It's probably a playoff team that does it, but I'm not a, if you're asking from like a fantasy standpoint, I just don't think Tyreek is for this year. That's my take.

I would agree. And it reminds me talking about receivers that may or may not play this year. You saw the thing with Shanahan when they asked if.

Oh, my God.

Is Brandon Ayuk an option? He's like. No. Yeah.

Because they're talking about wide receivers. He's like, yeah, it's a really big blow to DeMarcus Robinson. By the way, the Niners picked up Brandon Cooks. They didn't even work him out, by the way. Classic 49ers thing. Like, just pick him up and don't even worry about it.

It's like severely overweight. They're like, he's probably good to go.

He's like called him at a, you know, I called him at a, uh, a subway and he's just sitting there. We need to.

Have this conversation very quick. So the, and I posted this, I think on X on Sunday night or Monday night, the subway nachos. Dude, who you haven't seen the commercial for the subway nachos chat. Oh no.

They're what are the, like, are they actual nachos?

They're nachos that you can buy at subway that are the selling point is they're drizzled in hot honey. And it's a thing.

That sounds awful. Who is it like tortilla chips and like cheese and tomato? And it's like normal. But then instead of cheese, it's hot.

I think it's a combination. But the overarching point is it's nachos at Subway. This isn't Taco Bell. Oh, okay.

Yeah.

No, thank you.

Cause I was like, where are we going with this? Yeah. They, they've also, Subway's got the footlong pretzel and they've got like the, yeah, I don't, the, the cookie thing. And I'm with you. I'm totally with you on why are we doing that?

Who eats nachos from Subway? Who?

I mean, I don't, I'm not.

I am thinking about making that though, the punishment of whoever loses the tailgate fantasy league is you have to eat Subway nachos. Eating.

Oh, that would be, do you think they're bad?

Do you want to eat them?

I don't want to eat them, but I don't think it's like getting sushi at a convenience store. You know, going to Circle K and getting sushi at a convenience.

Store or sushi at the airport was worse. Dude, you can't do that at the airport.

I had some deep thoughts about it because I don't travel a lot. But like when we have our trips and stuff like that and like I think about like, oh, I actually don't like to eat before because I don't. I'm not a I'm not a bathroom airport airplane guy. I'm not going to go to the bathroom under any circumstance. No, especially specifically on the plane, specifically on the plane. I will not get up. And then airports a little bit dicey as well. And it's like you get one bad piece of food. What are you talking about? You might be.

they might arrest you for having sushi on there for what happens in the cockpit. And no, thank you. That's a hundred percent, but I don't know. Sushi at, or I'll say sushi at Subway. Notches at Subway.

Seems like a problem. They won't stop. Sushi at Subway.

That's weird. all the hype on Jota Coleman. And now it seems he's dealing with the ankle injury. Still a stash. Yeah. That popped up today that he's got this ankle injury and Dobbins is up. I still think he's a stash because my long-term bet was that it's not, it wasn't about now. It was about a couple of weeks from now, but I'm not going to lie that it, it doesn't feel good with the Harvey stuff and everything like that.

Are you wavering at all?

I am a little bit. I did point this out on the rank show that his yards after contact numbers were not that good in week one. So just, or excuse me in week two. So just something to point out. And he played through injuries last year at Washington. And that's why he fell in the draft because he did not play well through his injuries. And he was a lot slower because of that. So we'll see. Hopefully this is a nothing burger, kind of like the Ashton Gentry ankle injury that was like basically literally nothing. So we'll see if he practiced in full this week. I think that you're less concerned. I think you, I mean, if you picked them up, you're not just going to drop them.

Right. And yeah, I had to hold it.

Yeah. You got to see how it plays out. And if it doesn't play, it sucks that you had to waste your waiver on him. But Dobbins needs to prove he's healthy. Harvey needs to prove that he's healthy. So you got to hold these Denver Broncos running backs because I mean, or else plug your.

Nose when you're doing it. Like you're ordering the subway nachos, subway nachos and Jonah Coleman. You're just like, all right, let's just roll. I bet they smell good. I bet they actually smell good.

You know what?

I'm a big bread smell guy. Like I like the fresh smell of like a sourdough or something. Like bread is dope. Like warm, new bread.

Bread is dope right now.

Bread is dope. That's my new hat. Daniel said, need help. PPR got offered Kraft in London for DJ Moore, Godwin, and Jawan Johnson. I own the Moore side.

Yeah.

He gets London. He essentially gives up Godwin and Moore to get London. And then he gets Kraft for Jawan Johnson.

So easy. Good move. Easy peasy.

This one is a really good question too. Between Jutkins and Tootin this week, who should I go with? Bogman and I were just talking about this. I mean, I know you were talking about.

This as well.

I'm full on. This is Jutkins week. This is the Jutkins week. Carolina's rush defense is one of the worst, I think, out there. And this is an opportunity for them to get going again, regardless of the line. So I am team. I have Jutkins six spots higher than ECR. ECR and Fantasy Pros is 25. And I think I've met 19.

Yeah. I think it's Judkins week as well. I've been 2-0 on Judkins props, on Judkins sits, on the social for fantasy pros. And this week he's going to be smashing the over on his rushing prop because it's probably going to be not nearly as high because it's been dog crap the last two weeks.

This is our new rollover. Just what do you do with Judkins every week?

You're 2-0. This is a player that I'm hot. There are players that I can't get good reads on, but Judkins, have a good read on him and he's going to smash this week.

You better– you're going to be a pain in the– you already stole the Rashad White prop. Don't you dare steal a Judkins prop.

No, I'm doing it. I'm just listening. The card just fills up as the.

Week goes on.

I do the sheet.

I'm going to give you the sheet with a Judkins prop up there. It's already locked in. Yeah, I want to see what the rushing yard prop is. If it's under like– Okay, so if.

They're going to– Can you– I wonder if it's posted yet. I would say, so based on, it's probably around, if I had to guess.

I think 55, 54.5 is my guess, you guys. And then I'll see if I can find it.

Because it's Carolina.

I bet it's not available.

They may push it up a little bit. I would say it can't be higher than 60. That's the max I would put it at. And I'd still take the over.

Yeah, 59.5 sounds right. I would still take the over.

But that's what I'm going to guess.

Okay, you ready? I do have it.

56.5. Oh, so you were right on it. Yeah. That's an easy over.

Yeah. Projection is only 59.4, but I don't care. I don't care about none of that business.

You can't read into what he did the first two weeks. He had no shot.

Oh, I got a better bet. I call this. Dibs. Dibs on this one. Check this out. This is crazy. Rush attempt. He's at 12 and a half.

Yeah, that one's a smack. He's at 12.

I'm smashing that.

He's at 12 the last two weeks.

12 and a half? Are you kidding me? I'm smashing that.

All right, you take me to town and I'll take the yards. We'll be hand-holding all the way. We'll be hand-holding all the way to the bank with our money.

Maybe we could just do an entire bp prop show of all just doing it'll just be like receptions receiving yards touchdowns first touchdown yeah exactly we'll just figure out what we can do with it All right, let's burn through these last ones. And we got two quick story. We'll just do quick hitters at the end so we don't go too long here. Landon, Aaron Jones and Coker for Bigsby and Stevenson. I know that Aaron Jones, I want Aaron Jones and Coker just by like a country mile, regardless of the injury, because I like Coker.

Yeah, I think Coker is like the best part of this deal here. And I don't think people want Aaron Jones on there. I don't even know if you get this deal done anyway, because I don't think it's an Aaron Jones trade.

I wonder if he means Daniel Jones because he says, like, not much running back depth, but I need a new quarterback.

No, that's why he's trying to get shook. So, I mean, if you need a quarterback, look, I mean, and someone will take Aaron Jones off your hands. Like, Aaron Jones may have just had the best game of his season last week.

Probably most carries for sure. Tom said start Burden, AD Mitchell, Gadsen, or DK Metcalf at flex 14 team.

I'm pretty sure my rankings are going to say Metcalf, but like. My heart says AD Mitchell. This is one of these questions where it's like someone will ask you, am I crazy for starting player X over player Y? And you're like, no, because I watched Metcalf play last week and it was abysmal. And the Steelers offense is abysmal.

And AD Mitchell's playing at Coors Field.

I'm not backing DK Metcalf until he looks like a viable.

Receiver right now. I'm just not. I'm pretty sure he's like the.

One of the most overrated looking players in football.

He's like the fifth highest paid by receiver in the NFL. It's crazy.

Yeah, I'm not doing that. So I'll go A.D. Mitchell on that. He had 12 targets last week. He's going to get more targets. All right, last two stories. We'll just do kind of quick hitters here. Number four, Alec Pierce officially goes to the IR. I think that was kind of speculated on. Interesting, Steichen was defending how the team handled him coming back as well. I thought that was an interesting wrinkle. ESPN did a... Kind of fun thing on it. I'm going to put it.

I don't know.

There's much to go with. I think this is detrimental to all my stupid Colts takes like, good Lord, you can't lose all these guys. I'm going to put this in a different angle. We could talk about how awesome Josh Downs is. Number one separation score in football. He's getting targets. Do you think this is going to hurt the offense in a really negative way for guys like Josh Downs and them not be able to move the ball because they don't have Michael Pittman anymore? They can't really spread the ball. You're not going to put Keenan Allen doing 30-yard goes. So I'm worried that they are playing in a very short field, and I think this is going to be a bad run. And their defense is one of the worst. Colts might... They might lose

like five or six straight at this point.

Fading the Colts. Feel good about that from the offseason of my AFC South teams that I liked and disliked.

Thanks for the reminder.

But I also, you know, I told people to draft Jonathan Brooks. So here we are. I would say with Pierce, and I haven't looked at the splits so far this season, but I know Rich Rebar talked about in his week one preview about how Jonathan Taylor averages significantly less yardage when Alec Pierce is off the field. And that's because he is a legitimate threat to take the ball downfield.

And now when you replace him with guys like Laquan Treadwell and Darius Slayton, the force of an actual threat on the outside to take the top off the defense, especially with a quarterback that's not pushing the ball downfield nearly as much coming off a torn Achilles. Well, the Texans know who they got to stop. Every defense in the NFL knows what they got to do. And Jonathan Taylor, again, he's going to get his. He always does because he's an elite running back. But it does just make it that much tougher for this Colts offense to operate at a high level, like we saw when everybody was healthy last year and Al Pierce was fully ready to go, taking the top off of the defenses. So excited for Josh Downs, obviously, to see a lot of targets. Tyler

Warren's going to eat. JT's still going to get his. But I think that the fact that Shane Steichen was getting defensive about this, I think that just goes to show a head coach on hot seat, right? Like that's kind of where he's at, where he's feeling it. We definitely know the GM for the Colts is feeling it because he was also probably in the camp of we did this the right way. I think that Ballard is most likely gone first before Steichen because Steichen's in a weird situation too, where we all know he's like a really good offensive mind. I would say that even ahead of someone like a Mike McDaniel or something along those lines.

So if he were to get canned, Shane Steichen would be one of the first coaches that would get hired by another team. So, but with the Colts, like they haven't gone over the hump and I know it's not his fault. It took him forever to figure out the quarterback position. Then when Daniel Jones finally hit, he got hurt.

But unfortunately this is a business of winning and we don't win and you make excuses and you start. Oh, and two. And like, if they start only three, man, someone's going to get, someone's got to get fired.

Yep. It's not good. It just, it's a tumbles and it rolls and, I will tell you on the Josh Downs thing, I'm a little worried he's going to become Wandel where it's just going to be like seven catches for 60 yards and stuff like that. You can work in full PPR and stuff like that, but I'm very worried about this offense. And this could be one of the heads that roll if they can't figure it out, they're gonna have to make a move. And I don't know what that looks like. A Bogman has been kind of a screaming about Marvin Harrison. This would be like, if, Pierce is going to miss some time. Maybe a guy like Marv, if you can get him at a decent cost.

I mean, Marv doesn't seem to want to try, but I mean, get him back to his team, his father's team. He's a deep play guy. Yeah, I think Colts fans would support it. I think there'd be a lot of support around it. The Cardinals are looking at moving it. He's a guy that could spread the field. He could play the Alec Pierce role. They would be a really good fit, but they got to make that splash.

Well, the issue too is they don't have draft picks. Because of the, again, not even, I don't think that, I mean, the Cardinals obviously won a first round pick from Marvin Harrison Jr., of course, but I don't know if anyone's going to pay that just based on what we've seen from him so far in the NFL. And another player that has been rumored to be traded, Brian Thomas Jr., the Jaguars obviously wouldn't trade him to a division team.

Yeah.

Well, we'll see.

Maybe Marvin could be on the move. Final thing, as a quick hitter, Bears are going into Monday Night Football and they do not know who their quarterback is going to be. I love that graphic. I don't know.

Bad news, Bears.

Case Keenum is running with the ones because Bajent is currently dealing with a concussion protocol. So the question is, is this team wildly more competitive if Bajent can clear protocol or are the Bears in for a bad time on Monday?

I mean... the bears could be in for a bad time. Even if Kate Williams was starting in this game, because the Eagles defense is legit. One of the best defenses in the NFL still. So ideally you'd like to have Bay agent out there. I think that he's pretty good, especially among backup quarterbacks. And now you're going down to case Keenum where I just think that the ceiling is so low with someone like him where, yeah, he can run the offense. He's a veteran. He's been around the block.

So this isn't going to be something like brand new. It's different from like, Cooper rush experience or Jack strand or something along those lines. But there's a reason why no one has been trying to get case Keenum off the bears. Right. Cause like, it's like, it's probably not again. Like that's something you have to like contextualize with these back quarterbacks when you say, Oh, like James, he's not that bad. Like he's not that bad. Okay. If he wasn't that bad, then he wouldn't be a backup. Like he would probably be starting somewhere else for all these teams that need quarterbacks. So I think you have to take the downgrade very considerably when it comes to who's going to start for Chicago. It's the Monday night game,

I believe. So we're going to be going to the wire. You know, Ben Johnson's probably going to be like, Oh, I don't know who our quarterback is. Like, I mean, he'll tell who's practicing, but he's going to try to the gamesmanship thing to not try to give the Eagles an edge. But Vic Fangio's defense is going to be fired up. And this game could potentially be a slog because I mean, actually, I don't even, I mean, the bears defense is horrible.

So, So it's horrible. I don't know. It's a slog. It's just like, Eagles might just do what they want. You know, this could look like this could be like what the Niners did against the dolphins, but the bear is not doing what the dolphins did. The dolphins just kept running it. And what they each had like two drives or the Niners had two total drives in the first half, but every single drive the Niners had, they were competing. That might be the Eagles in this. They might just, Run it with Saquon, bring in Tank Bigsby.

Here's a little play action to Devante. And then they just keep scoring. And the Bears, I'm worried about three and outs with Case Keenum. The Bears have been a fun story, but it hasn't been fun watching Loveland. It hasn't been fun watching Burton.

I will say the one thing the Bears could, if the Bears are going to win this game with Case Keenum, it's because Ben Johnson's run game just takes over. Because I do think that there are opportunities because the Bears are playing at home. right? This game is a home game for them. I guess. I mean, that matters. I think that playing a soldier... No, it does matter.

I'm just Case Keenum's quarterback.

But if they're running the football effectively, like they did in week one against Carolina, obviously the defenses are different, but Philadelphia has shown in the past that they've been able to be run on before, especially if you get a good scheme going. So I think that's probably the Bears' path to success. That's why I don't think that you should just outright sit someone like DeAndre Swift, for example.

I still think he's going to get a ton of volume in this game, and They've had success before running the football. I believe last year when they faced the Eagles, they ran the ball pretty effectively. I'll have to double check the stats. I know that they played last year. It was not the Black Friday game that they played last year. Remember them playing around the holidays between the Bears and Eagles. I'll have to double check. But yeah, they got to run the football or else they're screwed.

This cannot be right. I am looking. Is the line Chicago's a favorite?

Yeah, no, it's going to be it.

It hasn't updated. Do you know what the current line is?

It's like Eagles minus, I think it's like five and a half or six and a half.

That's still not enough.

Well, it's because Caleb can play still. I think Caleb.

Yeah, we'll see. But bottom line, the Bears don't know who's going to be the quarterback. Neither do we. Monday could be ugly or maybe, you know, there'll be some late minute excitement. We didn't get the, you know, puka last second activation. But yeah, maybe we'll see something different.

All right.

There you go, friends. Those are the five. OK, this Eagles four and a half.

OK, Eagles four and a half. And I need to I need to see this game. I need to to to check exactly what happened. Because the Bears played the Eagles last year. I'm checking right now. Oh, yeah. So they played they played at Philly last year. They won twenty four to fifteen. They did play on Black Friday because the game, according to Pro Football Reference, was played...

This was a Friday at 3 o'clock. Black Friday. And in the box score, called it up live. This is great radio. Yep. 24-15, they won. DeAndre Swift scored a three-yard rushing touchdown. Kyle Minunga scored a four-yard rushing touchdown. A.J. Brown had two touchdowns. Rip. And... Yeah. Oh, no. Menunga and Swift both rushed for over 125 yards. So the Bears at the link ran all over the Eagles defense.

So that's the path to success. And that's probably why the line is what it is, because you have to put respect on Ben Johnson's run game.

OK, well, I mean, I'm sure the Eagles aren't going to put eight in the box every single play and say, if you're going to beat us, you're going to be going to beat us because we got a secondary that we're comfortable with. But we'll see.

We'll see.

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