Future Histories· Staffel 3· Folge 30
S03E30 - Matt Huber & Kohei Saito on Growth, Progress and Left Imaginaries
Sonntag, 19. Januar 2025 · 1 h 35
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Kohei Saito and Matt Huber discuss degrowth communism, socialist ecomodernism and their respective views on growth, natural limits, technology and progress.
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If you are interested in democratic economic planning, these resources might be of help:
Democratic planning – an information website
Sorg, C. & Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition & Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1.
journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1
Groos, J. & Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk]
bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construc…
International Network for Democratic Economic Planning
Democratic Planning Research Platform:
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Shownotes
Kohei Saito at University of Tokyo:
u-tokyo.ac.jp/focus/en/people/k0001_04217.html
Saito is chair of the “Beyond Capitalism: War Economy and Democratic Planning” Program at The New Institute:
thenew.institute/en/programs/beyond-capitalism…
Matt Huber at Syracuse University:
maxwell.syr.edu/directory/matthew-t-huber
Saito, K. (2024). Slow Down: How Degrowth Communism can save the Earth. W&N.
weidenfeldandnicolson.co.uk/titles/kohei-saito…
Saito, K. (2023). Marx in the Anthropocene: Towards the Idea of Degrowth Communism. Cambridge University Press.
cambridge.org/core/books/marx-in-the-anthropoc…
Saito, K. (2017). Karl Marx’s Ecosocialism: Capital, Nature, and the Unfinished Critique of Political Economy. Monthly Review Press.
monthlyreview.org/product/karl_marxs_ecosocial…
Huber, M. T. (2022). Climate Change as Class War: Building Socialism on a Warming Planet. Verso Books.
versobooks.com/products/775-climate-change-as-…
Huber, M. T. (2013). Lifeblood: Oil, Freedom, and the Forces of Capital. University of Minnesota Press.
upress.umn.edu/9780816677856/lifeblood
Matt Huber’s and Leigh Philipps’s review of Saito’s recent work:
jacobin.com/2024/03/kohei-saito-degrowth-commu…
on Huber’s critique of degrowth:
jacobin.com/2023/07/degrowth-climate-change-ec…
more articles on Jacobin by Huber:
Matt Huber’s medium blog:
On Ecomodernism:
thebreakthrough.org/ecomodernism
Matt Huber’s stance on the term “Ecomodernism”:
medium.com/@Matthuber78/clarifications-on-ecom…
on Vaclav Smil:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaclav_Smil
chapter on machinery and modern industry in Marx’s Capital Vol.1:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch15.htm
on Eco-Marxism/Ecosocialism:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-socialism
Reading guide on Ecology & Marxism by Andreas Malm:
historicalmaterialism.org/ecology-marxism-andr…
on GDP:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product
Schmelzer, M. (2016). The Hegemony of Growth: The OECD and the Making of the Economic Growth Paradigm. Cambridge University Press.
cambridge.org/core/books/hegemony-of-growth/A8…
on the „Green New Deal”:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_New_Deal
Pollin, R. (2018) De-Growth vs. a Green New Deal. New Left Review Issue 112.
newleftreview.org/issues/ii112/articles/robert…
Hickel, J. (2020). What does degrowth mean? A few points of clarification. Globalizations, 18(7), 1105–1111.
blogs.law.columbia.edu/utopia1313/files/2022/1…
on Malthusianism:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism
Harvey, D. (1974). Population, Resources, and the Ideology of Science. Economic Geography, 50(3), 256–277.
uky.edu/~tmute2/GEI-Web/password-protect/GEI-r…
the „Limits to Growth” report from 1972:
clubofrome.org/publication/the-limits-to-growth
Hickel, J. (2019) Degrowth: A Theory of Radical Abundance. Real-World Economics Review Issue 87.
static1.squarespace.com/static/59bc0e610abd04b…
on Planetary Boundaries:
stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-bou…
Earl C. Ellies:
on “Decoupling”:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-economic_decoupling
Christophers, B. (2024). The Price is Wrong: Why Capitalism Won’t Save the Planet. Verso Books.
versobooks.com/products/3069-the-price-is-wron…
on the Haber-Bosch Process:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process
Smil, V. (2004). Enriching the Earth: Fritz Haber, Carl Bosch, and the Transformation of World Food Production. MIT Press.
mitpress.mit.edu/9780262693134/enriching-the-e…
Smil, V. (2016). Power Density: A Key to Understanding Energy Sources and Uses. MIT Press.
direct.mit.edu/books/monograph/4023/Power-Dens…
on Mining and the Green Energy Transition:
soundcloud.com/novaramedia/novara-fm-clean-ene…
Marx’s letter to Vera Zasulich:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1881/zasulich/…
Marx’s “Preface” to “A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy”:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1859/critique-…
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