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In this episode I am once again joined by Lorin Roche PhD, meditation teacher and author of “The Radiance Sutras”.
I first met Lorin at the Summit at Sea conference in 2015 where we were both teaching. We attended each others’ workshops and immediately hit it off.
In those days, we both taught on the California conference circuit and were often booked to teach at the same gatherings. Over the years we spent many weeks enjoying extended conversations, raucous dinners, and long evenings of music and poetry. In short, we became true friends.
It was a desire to share the rich conversations I was having with friends like Lorin that contributed to my decision to start the Guru Viking Podcast. And so, naturally, I asked Lorin to be my first interview subject. He went on to become one of my most popular, recurring guests.
On the 18th of April 2026, Lorin died. What follows is our last interview and conversation, recorded a few months before his passing. The episode covers many of Lorin’s most characteristic teaching themes and I have also included some of the conversation we had before and after the main episode content.
There are many poignant and amusing stories from the years of my friendship with Lorin and there is a lot worth saying about his approach to meditation. One day, I might record an episode dedicated to those themes.
For now I will say that it is obvious to all that Lorin was a vivacious man - the essence of his approach to teaching meditation was an encouragement to wholeheartedly embrace life. But I can also report that behind the scenes and off the stage Lorin was a generous man, irreverent, funny, and very kind.
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Topics include:
- Intro
01:5 - Boats, geese, and hummingbirds
- Meditating with the flow of nature
- Being human is like being president of Earth
- The miracle of attention
- Teaching was easier in the 70s
- Agencylessness is a dumb idea
- Human reaction time
- Attending to the inner life
- Evil meditation teaching
- Misunderstandings about Patañjali’s Yoga Sūtras
- Taming the body
- The genius of yoga
- Pros and cons of stopping the mind
- Where meditation went wrong
- Tuning the instrument
- Limitations of the “tuning” metaphor
- Monastic ideas sabotage lay people
- Religion vs meditation
- Is Loren’s approach self-indulgent?
- Peak experiences and enlightenment
- Loren’s drug experiences
- LA Yoga community’s enthusiasm for drugs
- Loren asks about Steve’s meditation
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Previous episodes with Lorin here:
- guruviking.com/search?q=lorin
To find out more about Lorin visit: - www.lorinroche.com - www.radiancesutras.com - www.meditationtt.com
For more interviews, videos, and more visit:
- guruviking.com
Music 'Deva Dasi' by Steve James
