WW: Ep 40 Nina Kulagina

Thank you.

Hey guys, welcome to Wickedly Weird with Jerry and Amanda, episode 40.

I'm Freddy Krueger.

I'm Keyboard.

Keyboard.

I knew it, and I couldn't think of a name, and so I just looked down and saw my husband's keyboard, and I was like, Keyboard, that's my name today.

Well, maybe you should backspace and come up with a name.

I don't want to backspace. You can't backspace on a piano. No.

You said keyboard. I was thinking like a typing keyboard.

Call me Charlotte. Charlotte.

Amanda, I know people listening, this is going to be like Christmas Day, but we're going to talk about Halloween because we're recording right after Halloween since we're kind of far ahead. You apparently had a fantastic time, judging by the video you sent me. Tell everybody how your Halloween was.

It was amazing. First, I dressed up as a mushroom.

And I was I was an inflatable mushroom and it was so cool. And I won second prize at work. I went to work like that. I was committed to the bit.

I walked around. I had some lady be like, oh, Amanda, run for me. And I did.

I ran for like a couple of times and it got a little awkward. And I was like, you want to try it on? You can run like this is weird. And it was fine.

So I won second. I won second place and it was chef's kiss. And then I got home. And I went trick or treating with my children as that mushroom.

And I was the celebrity. Everyone wanted to talk to me. Everybody loved me.

It was really weird. It was a weird thing.

Cause I'm not, I'm normally like little people. No, but this mushroom really made me feel fabulous.

My daughter.

Cause you could have had it a little bit. You probably had some anonymity.

So yeah, you didn't know it was me, but I was the, what video did I send you? The one of me running around. Yeah. Yeah, I was running. It was so fun. Some cat asked if I was a penis.

And I said, well, number one, it was definitely a dare from the older kids they were with. So I was like, how can I make this awkward? What did I go and say? Yes, it is very phallic shaped. I could understand why you would say that.

But thank you. I am a mushroom.

And then he was disappointed and went back to his friends. And he was like, she said, that was awesome.

Thank you. I was like, yeah, that's right. So... That happened.

My son was a scream, like scary scream character. And I'm too lame now for him. So he was very far ahead of me. He's like, don't walk near me. I would walk and I'd waddle. I'd junk in the trunk.

It was great.

I want to know how you were able to sit down and do actual work.

I had to take it off or inflate it. And so the thing is, I had to take it off. Because inflated, I looked like a condom.

Because.

Of the material they used. Why they chose that color, I'm not sure.

Like, they should have just done, like, a lightish... I don't... I wouldn't even.

Like, I guess a mushroom part is stem.

Is that color maybe? Maybe they could have wanted.

Are you sure it wouldn't have been a penis?

No, it wasn't. Not a penis. All the little kids were like, it's the mushroom from Mario. And I was like, that's right, I am. I wasn't. I was whatever I wanted to be, whoever asked.

Nice.

Um... And I definitely played I'm Too Sexy, and I walked the walk on the way back to the house.

And it was fun. Who got first place at your work?

What was their costume?

I am not happy about it, but it was some guy in a unicorn PJ that was dirty.

It was fucking dirty, and he won.

Absolutely no thought. Didn't have to walk around looking like a wiener.

Not at all. I did. I committed to that. But I didn't win. Nope. Second place. That was bullshit. But you know what? It's fine. I got comp time for it, so I don't care.

You got something.

It's fine. I wasn't upset.

Congratulations to the guy who put no thought behind his costume at all.

But anyways, let's move on.

All right, Amanda. So let me ask you a quick question before we get into the story.

What?

What are your overall thoughts on telekinesis and psychic abilities?

Can I tell you, I'm going to touch on this. When I was little, I watched an X-Files episode and it was a telekinesis episode. And I was convinced that I could move a spoon and I could not.

And so I think it's really cool.

And I want to hear about this lady who had superhuman powers that I wish I possessed.

So you do believe that people can have those powers?

Sure, why not? We don't even use all of our brains. So why not?

All right.

When it comes to these psychics and telekinesis, there's a bunch of them that are exposed as fake.

So you would agree with that?

Oh, my God. Oh, wait, pause. Have you seen the Miss Cleo documentary?

No, I have not.

Oh, my God. You got to watch it. It is so good. And like, you know, she may, I don't even really know if she was a fraud, but what she did was.

She was a fraud.

Shh. Shh.

No, Miss Cleo was amazing. Whatever.

And she passed away and it was sad. But you got to watch a documentary because she.

Didn't even have a real accent. She made that accent up.

Well, her whole life was kind of made up. It was a little weird. You have to watch a documentary. I don't want to put spoils on it. I don't want to spoil anyone.

All right. I'll watch it then.

Better.

So there was a woman, though.

She was studied for over 20 years because she was so accurate in what she was doing. Her name was Nina Kulagina.

Get out.

What?

That's not real.

That's where to go. First of all, I'm probably pronouncing it wrong because she was a Russian woman. So there's probably some, you know, it could be Kulagina or something.

I don't know.

It rhymes nonetheless.

This is true.

Unless it's Nina Kulagina. That's probably not right either.

Anyway.

Let's just go. It's going to go down a path.

She's born in 1926 in Russia in the area that would today be St. Petersburg.

When she was just 14 years old, she became a radio operator for a tank regiment against German forces in World War II. 14.

They already had her in the military.

Well, you know, they do things different over there, so I feel like it's not uncommon. I'm sure at 10 they were like, here, come with me.

And you'll see.

She was wounded three years later while still serving in the military. And all of this would take a toll on her throughout her life. In the 1960s, she suffered a nervous breakdown. But this time she had gotten married.

That'll do it.

The guy she.

Married was a naval engineer by the name of Victor Collegina. So that's how she ended up getting her round.

Call of Gina.

Or Call of Duty. I don't know. Maybe.

Together, they had three children. And this was around the time that she heard about people who claimed that they had special abilities such as telekinesis. She saw a story on TV. It's about this woman who could feel colors with her hands. What?

Wait, hold on. Pause. What do you mean she could feel colors with her hands?

Even with her eyes closed, if it's even more amazing.

Wait, she could see them, or she could, like, feel, like, wait, what do you mean?

I think she, like, felt the colors, like, internally. Like, she could tell something was blue or red. What?

All right, let's continue.

Anyway, this gave her the, I guess, the courage to speak up about her abilities. She told her family that she had had these abilities for several years. She just never talked about them. Of course, they didn't take her seriously. So she decided she'd prove it. She did this by picking out different colored threads from her embroidery bag while she was blindfolded. She could also read text from a page that could either be from a book or handwritten, whatever the case is, just text.

While wearing a blindfold. Otherwise, you know, that really wouldn't be that impressive if you could just read it off the page.

Right.

Like, wait a minute.

So like if you wrote, the horse has a big penis.

Right.

And she was blind voted and wouldn't look into paper, she could tell you what it said.

What the hell?

Or if you had a book, say the Bible.

You could read like a word.

And you were reading or are you headed to a certain page she could tell you what page it was and what you were reading.

Off the page but i want to jump back to the thread situation if it was her threads maybe she had them in such a way that she knew what color they were see like that's not i feel like you can't use that you got to just use random thread off a shelf not something in her.

Bag yeah but if her bags were all the same threads just different colors.

Yeah but what if she knew like red was in row three, space four, and she was.

Like, oh, they were all in a bag.

Yeah, but, like, in just a, like, in a loose bag? Yeah.

Oh, alright, well, I guess maybe that's... Maybe they're ribbed. I don't know. Alright, let's just keep going. For her pleasure.

So....

She could also replicate drawings that had been made by someone in a different room. So if you drew a cat.

Or an alien.

She would do it.

She could do the same thing, even though she was in a completely separate room.

Hmm.

Imagine if she had cameras everywhere.

I don't think in the 60s she did.

No. By technology, I don't know. We don't know. This lady sounds crazy.

When Nina told a doctor about her abilities, she became the subject of a 20-year study into telekinesis.

Oh, they studied her?

And her psychokinetic business.

Like she was 11? Oh, you know that probably wasn't the best. That was probably horrible.

No, she was married with kids already by this time.

But I feel like when they take someone and they watch them, don't they do experiments on them?

Oh, I'm sure they did. I thought you said she was 11 years old.

No, no, no, like 11. Like, you know, 11 in Stranger Things?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what I think. That's what I think of when you say experiments. That and Lilo and Stitch.

626. Or on one occasion, she was challenged to stop a frog's heart. Get out.

Get out.

That seems a little strange to me, but with everything they could have chose, they chose to stop a frog's heart. But to her credit, she was able to do this. I bet her husband probably, hello, I think, Nina, I don't have any problems with anything you do ever, since I know you can stop a heart.

Since you can stop somebody's heart, which I feel like that might have been a stretch.

I think that might have been a stretch. I don't know.

Researchers noticed that while she was stopping the frog's heart, her own heart rate increased considerably.

She was taking souls?

I don't think she was taking souls.

Like, what?

With, like, Kermit the Frog. Oh, she's taking my soul.

Yeah.

I can actually do a fairly good Kermit when the time permits.

All right, well, just got to spring it on me, okay? Okay.

To lovers, to dreamers, and me.

Why are you so good at that? Why is that like a hidden unlocked talent nobody knew about?

I have no idea.

Wow.

You got to do a whole episode of you just singing. That would be amazing.

Okay. Yeah, that's what people will tune in for.

They will. You never know.

Nina sent the frog into cardiac arrest. I'm just kidding. I don't know.

Cut it out. All right.

He did, though, clarify that her heartbeat did raise. And they did this by having her hooked up to an EKG machine and a heart monitor.

So there was proof that that actually did happen during that time.

A few minutes later, the experiment had to be stopped because the doctor's heart rate increased to a serious level.

So the doctor himself. So she stopped the frog's heart, but she must have been raising the doctor's heart rate.

Ah, no, I don't know. That's wild.

During other experiments, she was able to move small objects that had been placed on a table without even touching them.

See, that's what I was into as a kid. I wanted to move my spoon. I wanted to move my fork.

I wanted to be like the enchanted Mickey Mouse, you know, from Fantasia.

That's what I want, make rooms move. Okay. Not to talk to people's hearts, but continue. Continue.

These same experiments were repeated with the objects covered with plexiglass, but with the same result. So there was no way she could have touched it with the plexiglass over top of it. Yeah. When the objects were placed in a vacuum, she could no longer complete the effect, though. And don't say like a Hoover or a Bissell. It's not that kind of vacuum.

Like a kind of vacuum.

You know, like a room that's got a certain amount of suction or something.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Like outer space room?

Yes, yes, yes.

On another occasion, an egg was taken out of its yolk and placed in saltwater solution. She was able to separate the yolk from the white with just the power of her mind.

What?

Come on. Is this real? Yeah, of course it is. This isn't on the onion or something.

No. Benson Herbert, a. British doctor.

He said that when he met her, she touched his arm and he immediately felt a shock of pain. When he looked down, there was a burn mark where.

She had touched him.

This feels like the X-File episode I watched. Like, what? Come on.

That might be where they got the idea from.

Probably.

So no one could touch her now at this point?

Well, I don't think that. I think it was just a rarity.

Storm from the X-Men?

I'm sure her husband loved that. Oh, it's got such a shock running up there. Researchers discovered that since she was best able to demonstrate her abilities while under severe stress, it kind of goes into like a poltergeist type situation.

Yeah.

Yep.

While performing these feats, the activity in her brain would increase by up to 400%.

See, if we unlocked our whole brain, we would all be doing what she's doing. It'd be a very scary place.

On some occasions, a magnetic field would be around her while she was concentrating.

Is she like an alien now? I don't know. Wild.

Could you imagine if she was an alien, like by accident got left here?

By all accounts, Amanda, she really did have some telekinetic powers. By all accounts, she really did have telekinetic abilities, though they still aren't fully understood even today.

I'm having a hard time understanding it, honestly. It's weird.

It's cool.

I kind of wish she was still alive so we could interview her.

Yeah, she died in the 90s, early 90s. I should have probably mentioned that. I think it was 1990, in fact. She lived to be a ripe old age.

Yeah, because she was an alien.

What is that?

Amanda, we got another story I want to talk about. It's one you might be aware of.

I'm not sure.

I hope I'm not. I hope I'm not aware. But we're going.

To take a very quick sponsor break. All right, Amanda, I promised you I had another story.

Yeah, what do you got?

Well, in 2006, Mike Tyson was asked to do an interview from a sports reporter by the name of Dale Posner. Have you heard this story?

Nope.

All right, good.

So Mike shows up to the interview to find the reporter is being bullied outside the interview site. So Mike goes up, chases him off, as you would think he would. He said that the guy.

Looked like he was an airport janitor. He was kind of nerdy.

So he does the interview. He said he seemed like a nice enough guy. But two days later, the boxing gym that Mike was practicing at, same place they did the interview, was surrounded by cops. So Mike asked the sergeant, hey, what did I do now? Who's ass did I apparently get into last night?

That's what he said.

Whose ass did I grab last night? Well, it turns out that that reporter, Dale Hosner.

Was a serial killer.

What?

He and a friend by the name of Samuel Dietman, they had gone on a shooting spree and injured 19 people and killed eight.

Holy crap.

This was all before the interview.

What the hell? And he was, of course, they always look weird.

They always have, like, weird glasses, or they always look like a janitor.

They don't ever just, like, ooh. Or they just, I don't know. You can tell. He couldn't tell. Well, I mean, I guess.

No, I guess not.

That's absolutely wild. I didn't know that.

Yeah, I didn't either. I ran across that, and I said, well, this will be a fun story to add on to the one we did.

I wish we could get Mike Tyson on the show.

Let me make some calls.

You should.

I will, and I'll come back and tell you the same thing you already know. We can't get Mike Tyson on the show.

What about Danny DeVito?

I love him. He's a national treasure. You could tell me something horrid about him, and I would be like, I love him.

He's amazing.

If I could see a Jersey Mike commercial with him in it one more time.

Oh, don't be a hater. He's so great. I love him. Actually, I don't watch anything with commercials. So I'm just kidding.

Do you watch him in Always Sunny?

I'm not the biggest fan of that show, so I'll watch it.

It's fine. But any movie he's been in, I love.

Twins, I love that. Matilda, he was great. He was in The New Haunted Mansion.

I just love him. I love him.

You're too young to remember him back on Taxi where he got his stardom.

You?

I've seen clips and stuff like that. He's just short and hilarious and I love him.

I do. Who doesn't love him? I bet you he's awesome in real life.

I bet he is too. He's got to be in his 70s now.

I think he's older than that. Maybe so.

Maybe 75, but.

I love him. He's great. He's entertaining. He's just the right amount of angry. I love him.

Didn't he play the penguin in one of the Batman movies?

He sure did.

Yeah.

He did. He was the penguin. But he was also in the new Beetlejuice Beetlejuice movie as well.

I still haven't seen that.

Oh, that's a really good film. I really like it.

I'll see it eventually. I kept hearing bad reviews.

You gotta make your own judgment.

I know, but if there's a lot of people that I know like the movie... The first one, and then they didn't like the second one.

Yeah, but it's not. They're older now. It's a different storyline, really. It's not really the same.

I know, but I kind of want it to be the same. Because my whole thought of Beetlejuice would be a lot of the same characters and Michael Keaton being Michael Keaton and blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, but the other two, think about it. They're already dead. What's there to tell? You know what I mean? There's nothing to tell. They're dead. They already died. We know that story.

Yeah, I guess.

Whatever.

They weren't even asked to come back because they, like, aged and... I don't want to watch Alec Baldwin in a film anyway, to be totally honest with you.

He's gross.

Yeah, but, well, I wasn't thinking Alec Baldwin. I was thinking of the.

The woman?

No, because Alec Baldwin wasn't the guy in the first one.

Yeah, he was.

No, wait a minute.

Yes, he was.

The husband and the wife. That was Alec Baldwin?

Yes! Oh, my God. You didn't know that?

I swear I didn't remember him being, I thought it was somebody else.

No, it's Alec Baldwin. He is, he plays the dead guy. Yeah, everyone forgets that that's Alec Baldwin, but it's him.

I swear I did not remember that being him.

He played Adam, Alec Baldwin. And I love Catherine O'Hare. She will always be my favorite.

I love her.

Yeah, she was good.

It's Jenna Davis who played Barbara. Juno was Sylvia Sidney. She was a good actress.

Whatever.

You know what?

Jeffrey Jones, that little weirdo, the way they did him in that movie, that was kind of funny.

But.

Yeah, I'm Beetlejuiced out. Let's end this thing.

All right.

Well, I hope you sleep tight, everybody. Merry Christmas and Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. Yep.

Merry Christmas.

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