Jason’s Home Assistant Smart Home That Watches Birds and Tracks Visitors

0:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello and welcome to the home Mrs. and podcast. [SPEAKER_01]: My name is Phil. [SPEAKER_01]: Join me today. [SPEAKER_01]: We've got Rohan Hageranglain. [SPEAKER_02]: Very good, thanks. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're also pleased to have with us one of our Patreon members, Long Time Petra Member Jason.

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1:57 [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably first time we've heard an ad read on Applecast for a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: Quite some time. [SPEAKER_00]: So, I was like, wow, these are getting really long. [SPEAKER_00]: You're really sophisticated. [SPEAKER_00]: This is great. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've tried to step up our best at our game.

2:09 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got, yeah, Apollo Automation now and that we've got ourselves all to do. [SPEAKER_01]: So supporting this and making this bring more content, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Like getting, as well as people like you Jason supporting us on the Patreon, we can, you know, thank you for episode some mouth now.

2:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, thank you for your support. [SPEAKER_01]: Benny and Jason are our two executive producers, which is one of our levels on Patreon, so yeah, thank you for stepping up and giving us a like, I think it's one thing to you know, gives it a like, rating and a comment on the social media, and we really do appreciate that it helps us grow the podcast too, but you've actually put your money behind us too, and we really are grateful for that.

2:46 [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: 100% no problem. [SPEAKER_02]: No problem. [SPEAKER_01]: Jason, what about a, well, you're a bit of a bit of a backstory, what's, uh, but you can to have one of them. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh boy, um, I think with a lot of folks of my age and just shy of 50, um, X-10 was like the first thing that we used back in the day.

3:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know if I, I don't know if I, I mean, it was fine. [SPEAKER_00]: It was weird. [SPEAKER_02]: It's time for, for what it did for what it is. [SPEAKER_02]: It was, I mean, by today, it's absolutely, it's primitive, but it, [SPEAKER_02]: worked really well. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it sure did.

3:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It worked really, really well. [SPEAKER_00]: And it was one of those technologies that just made me think, like, what else could I do with this? [SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, it's not just a binary on and off, but like, what's the next thing you can do with it? [SPEAKER_00]: What other things can you kind of, you know, make the, you know, make happen in your house?

3:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And when, when you're someone like, when I, when I was using it and I was fairly young, [SPEAKER_00]: I can buy a few of these boxes, put them into the, you know, connect them to the walls. [SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm able to turn on an off a light just by using this like really weird looking remote.

4:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like a fat boxy. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_02]: Thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we don't think of anything like a converter from like the 60s, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then to kind of make me think a little bit about that.

4:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember my grandmother at one point had this like whistle that you would squeeze, and that would turn lights on and off. [SPEAKER_00]: It'd make a little whistling noise. [SPEAKER_00]: And every time a car would drive by, if it had like a really messed up muffler, it would make the TV turn on her bedroom.

4:33 [SPEAKER_00]: it was like the clapper but it was a whistle. [SPEAKER_02]: So in this morning, Jason, just for and for a folks that are listening, we just recorded that 2026.10 episode. [SPEAKER_02]: And so [SPEAKER_02]: we were talking one of the things that came in was a glass break sensor and I was talking about how like you know from everything I've heard I've never owned one but I've heard how inaccurate it is because of frequencies and stuff like that just you know something around that frequency happens and it's like ding ding ding ding you know the world is ending.

5:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And, and it's funny you say that Phil was talking about another like little, uh, like a key finding thing. [SPEAKER_01]: We find, uh, yeah, like, oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you had those Jason, but you just whistle and because if you lost a case, you whistle right and then the case would say, hey, I'm over here, but it would react to anything.

5:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So same thing, same thing. [SPEAKER_02]: It's, uh, but it's interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't, I didn't, I've never seen or heard about this like, [SPEAKER_00]: is a little black, squeezy-looking thing that you squeeze it. [SPEAKER_00]: It would make this whistle noise.

5:36 [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing was, is if somebody whistled on TV, it would hear it and it would turn off the TV. [SPEAKER_00]: And my grandma used it for turn, her TV on and off. [SPEAKER_00]: And you might come and visit her. [SPEAKER_00]: She lived near a busy street and you'd hear a car drive by like, it was usually like a Volkswagen, like an old bug or something would go by.

5:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And it would go by as it kind of like spun down and then it would make the TV turn on in the middle of the night. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's amazing. [SPEAKER_01]: The modern version of that is now people with smart speakers. [SPEAKER_01]: And so the reason why we can't say her name, we always say Amazon Echo Lady.

6:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Turning things off, right? [SPEAKER_01]: The famous South Park episode going through and making it from, you know, all their devices activate, right? [SPEAKER_01]: You're just ahead of the time, all right? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess so. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess so. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

6:20 [SPEAKER_00]: They do need to find a better way of making that work for podcasting folks, so that way we can kind of filter it out a little bit. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think internally for themselves, like when they put ads and stuff, I think they put a special like ultrasonic signature or something like that, so that it doesn't trigger.

6:35 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I don't know what they're interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've been in technology. [SPEAKER_00]: I got my first computer when I was 12. [SPEAKER_00]: It was like a 28612. [SPEAKER_00]: So I had like 12 megahertz, very, very old. [SPEAKER_00]: Nice. [SPEAKER_00]: And it was a lot of fun.

7:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So Brooke Windows, many, many times. [SPEAKER_00]: Brooke Windows 2.0, many, many times, edited all the things you weren't supposed to edit. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Microsoft edit. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all the fun. [SPEAKER_01]: And I find, you know, making positive protected directories even though it's 95, right?

7:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Other than that, all the fun stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Have a good all day. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I'd be using Computer Shriver. [SPEAKER_00]: It's been a lot of fun. [SPEAKER_00]: I've been enjoying that. [SPEAKER_02]: Nice. [SPEAKER_02]: And now you are you currently still in like desktop be kind of stuff server stuff.

7:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, desktop server the whole thing. [SPEAKER_00]: I am the IT department for the organization that I work at. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: I get you all of that. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean from Azure to my my mouse doesn't work.

7:42 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, all of it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So has your triage work. [SPEAKER_01]: Just the Azure instance going down and get the top priority to the [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it depends on who it is. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fair enough. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure. [SPEAKER_00]: See you.

7:54 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not working. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, it really just depends. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, it's it's fun having all the different technologies that your fingertips and being able to kind of play with the various tools and technologies that are out there.

8:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And some of the stuff, you know, goes from working at home, working from work, doing stuff with the home lab, you know, all of those sorts of things. [SPEAKER_01]: So tell us about your harm lab. [SPEAKER_01]: What's seen the harm lab then? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I have a fairly old Dell Power Edge T340 and I just found like the box that has the most amount of disk space that I could just throw disks into it.

8:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I threw bunch of disks into it, I run home raid, I'm home raid, unraid on it and unraid just kind of takes care of all my Docker containers, all the fun stuff that I use for, yeah, for everything. [SPEAKER_00]: So that works really well and then I have at home I use ubiquitous of all my ubiquity products that are here and you know cameras to sensors to all those fun stuff so yeah having all of that together and then every Raspberry Pi version that you can think of I have one of those doing something [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the box of shame.

9:18 [SPEAKER_01]: The drawer of death. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's these blue ones that are back here. [SPEAKER_00]: And this white one, that's yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the shelves of shame. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: One drawer. [SPEAKER_00]: I could do not. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't open it. [SPEAKER_00]: But there's one drawer that just a stack of hard drives.

9:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm definitely afraid to get rid of them just because there's no data on it. [SPEAKER_00]: But there's recoverable data like crazy on it. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to have to, you know, use magnets or [SPEAKER_01]: What's the least of a value on the bit the moment, like are they with?

9:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, every one of them is probably less than like less than a terabyte I'd imagine because that's that old. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: But then up here on this shelf, I have many multi-terabyte drives that are waiting to be swapped in for my my server. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

10:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, just depends. [SPEAKER_02]: So I am sitting on a gold mine up there. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was going to say, especially if you bought them like free like a year ago or something. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Probably. [SPEAKER_02]: It's that that's your investment right there.

10:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you're trying to find. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but the server that I'm using used to be a camera server for an auto zone, you know, yeah, yeah, so the guy was just like, oh, yeah, the auto zone software still and if you want to play with it, and I was like, oh, yeah, I am so made a quick little image of that through it into VM, and I was like, I'll play with that for a little while and see how that works.

10:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, fun stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: The things you find on Facebook marketplace, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like in depending on where you are you find more interesting things like in Toronto you'll find something once in a while but I feel like in California where there's the Bay Area or anywhere else it's like you get a lot more.

10:59 [SPEAKER_02]: There's just a lot more tech people and tech stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: Start up shutting down a lot of it, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm in Los Angeles area, so yeah, there's plenty of stuff to grab off Facebook marketplace, even like the most weirdest stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, wow.

11:17 [SPEAKER_00]: You're selling that? [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Here, it's like it's either broken or it's just grossly over price rooms. [SPEAKER_02]: I got to spend a lot of stuff wearing it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But there I died with the rough, but you know, oh, yeah.

11:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've purchased like this laptop that's right here. [SPEAKER_00]: We're right there. [SPEAKER_00]: That laptop runs ZEMA OS and it has a couple doctor containers on it. [SPEAKER_00]: And it works just fine. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So what are you running your home assistant instance on?

11:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's a little desktop right there and it's running proxmox and it's the only VM on there for running proxmox, but I really wanted to run proxmox, so I threw it on there and have a screen over here that I can't display anything on because it's not running on proxmox. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I went from like having a thing where I could display something to like I don't know the people that make these these hypervisors need to come up with something cooler to put on the screen other than just like a login box that and that's it I'm just like I got to find something even a banner a cool banner that would display on there.

12:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Just I probably do like an asky like messages a day banner something like that when you log right where the login screen is right because usually just like username and then to blink blink. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's just, why hasn't someone come up with something cool for that? [SPEAKER_00]: It means an homo system doesn't have anything cool that shows up on there.

12:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's just, yeah, there needs to be something on there. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how many people plug in that stuff there, I just like, or like, it usually run all the headlights there. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I've never, yeah, plugged.

12:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I think homes can, like support, like it will detect, like your plug-a-hatch you might have ice into it, but I've never plugged a HDMI device. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, even when I moved into this house, I flashed my home assistant yellow, what her rebuilt it. [SPEAKER_02]: And no, no monitor or anything, I just, I'd press the hard reset button and hope for the best, right?

13:15 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's that. [SPEAKER_02]: take a couple of tries, but got there, so you're running it on the machine and then using proxbox and you said nothing else so that means are you running the OS? [SPEAKER_02]: Are you running [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did that before on that machine. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, oh, I should try proxmox.

13:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you break the entire house. [SPEAKER_00]: So nothing works for several hours as you start figuring it out. [SPEAKER_00]: And then you just wait until the spouse gets mad and says, hey, I tried to turn this on and it doesn't work. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, babe. [SPEAKER_00]: Let me fix it for you.

13:58 [SPEAKER_02]: But that is your sign of successful automations. [SPEAKER_02]: When it breaks and you get yelled at, it literally today, my wife was like, when can I just say good night and all the lights turn off? [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you haven't got that back working here. [SPEAKER_02]: No, well, because I don't have any smart switches installed yet, right?

14:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's new. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's, it's because we laughed all of that in the old house and for the, for the new people. [SPEAKER_00]: So I will say that the smart switches did work because I use Lutron switches, and so those up there on bridge, and they just work.

14:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yep, yep, that makes sense. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's actually an interesting question. [SPEAKER_02]: So how do you present those? [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not sure how you, first of all, how do you interface with Home Assistant? [SPEAKER_02]: Is it through Google Home or like HomeKit or something like that or like Apple Home?

14:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Or do you interface with it using the UI or something like that? [SPEAKER_00]: a little bit of all of it. [SPEAKER_00]: So my wife uses home kit. [SPEAKER_00]: So she opens the home app and all of those things are presented as bridges or connected to bridges that she can use that. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I myself, I use either have a, I either use one of my custom dashboards in the home assistant app.

15:17 [SPEAKER_00]: or I've been using this app called quartermaster. [SPEAKER_00]: And quartermaster can talk to homosistent and give you a nice little dashboard. [SPEAKER_00]: So I've been playing around with that one as well. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's a third party homosistent. [SPEAKER_00]: Third party. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, third party homosistent.

15:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to add that word. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the end and so then Lutron in your case you were saying so that's not just because how I had it before was just everything went to the homestead and the u interface with tomoses me through the upper voice or whatever right so in this case you've you've added Lutron as a separate [SPEAKER_02]: up, I guess, into, yeah, into a kit for your way.

15:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it just works no matter what. [SPEAKER_00]: So sort of electricity in the house, you know, oh, oh, it'll always work no matter what. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it kind of fixes that whole instance of having like a dumb home, you know, can you make this thing still work with everything turned off?

16:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it'll totally work with everything turned off. [SPEAKER_00]: It also costs a small fortune to replace all 43 switches and the people remotes with them. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: I think in my old place, I probably had, it was a bungalow, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Took a single story.

16:31 [SPEAKER_02]: So I like half of what you would normally have. [SPEAKER_02]: But I think I had like 25, 28 of them. [SPEAKER_02]: And in this house, we've got, you know, two floors plus basement. [SPEAKER_02]: So now it's like, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to have to phase this in because I can [SPEAKER_00]: That's probably 60 bucks each, you know, it's no big deal.

16:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just take a, just take up a second. [SPEAKER_01]: At least not to get at the lock bulb level, right? [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't get at the bulb level, oh, I can get it at the top of my gosh. [SPEAKER_02]: But even that, like not, but that's easy, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's like just take it out swap it out when you, when you move, I had three, three light bulbs.

17:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I had an Italy flight bulbs. [SPEAKER_02]: The original matter of which red ones they had a thing. [SPEAKER_02]: And I just, you know, they were outside on my patio. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, you know, like Halloween, you can have them like orange or something, Christmas, whatever, right?

17:23 [SPEAKER_02]: So I did that and so I just took those swapped out and that was good. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I still have, I haven't plugged them in or using anywhere, but I can take them with me. [SPEAKER_02]: Only good thing about having to smart bulbs, right? [SPEAKER_02]: And over a switch. [SPEAKER_02]: Unless you want colors to stuff, that's different.

17:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like, I like Lutronoli a lot, I've been using a lot of carous stuff as well and just kind of, you know, getting a good mix of things, I remember at one point you guys were talking about when IKEA came out with all of its stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, I don't have over threat stuff.

18:00 [SPEAKER_00]: These, these are cool. [SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, I went and got one of these, which is the nicely cool colored, you know, dual switch thing, the guys, those things are possessed. [SPEAKER_00]: They are absolutely possessed. [SPEAKER_00]: So what would happen, like, there's one right here.

18:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll show you this one. [SPEAKER_00]: So this one has, it just has the battery cover off, which is the actual clicky part. [SPEAKER_00]: these things are possessed. [SPEAKER_00]: They will just randomly turn on and it's the button on the switch. [SPEAKER_00]: It's actually turning on the Iquaker.

18:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I've watched it and home assist it where it just goes click and it just clicks itself. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't know why, but it does. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I'll be sitting here and all of a sudden, like a light turns on. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I look and I'm like, did the light turn on or did the switch tell the light to turn on?

18:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Nope, it was the switch. [SPEAKER_00]: The switch was literally being like pressed. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because you can have the switch as it's separate and it is separate for the light stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's so amazing.

19:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So I have a whole bunch of those because I was like, oh, these these look fun We'll put one on the bedside table and put one here and there and a couple of my office Nope Just press themselves pick or remotes just put peaker remotes everywhere much better You know what I do I I loved the way some of these smart Devices do three way remote right or yeah [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, you know, downstairs, if you have two switches for something, great, just close one to them up, don't use the traveler and yeah, I don't remote it.

19:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Super easy. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I really like that concept of, you know, the peak or remote whenever or so. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you can get them in different different styles as well where you could have four buttons, five buttons, the fan buttons, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, they're cool.

19:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so what else are you, so you've got your lights, you've got, you're running a luchron on those. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, what else are you doing? [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I see the LEDs behind you going crazy. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: WLAD. [SPEAKER_02]: I love WLAD. [SPEAKER_02]: It's fun.

20:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice. [SPEAKER_02]: And I just just entered strips that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, standard trips. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you just you can just control it with home assistant. [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's or their web interface or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what's the lake bar on the side. [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing's just, no, it's a it's a very dumb light bar.

20:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It has like a really boring remote. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it just works. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is that integrated into Harvey system. [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_00]: It's an ingredient that there's a, um, there's a lutron, um, one of the lutron boxes for like a lamp box to turn it on and off.

20:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: That's okay. [SPEAKER_02]: I guess smart Twitch. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: What protocols is it these are lutrons that use like RFL in freight? [SPEAKER_01]: Could you? [SPEAKER_00]: Who try uses? [SPEAKER_02]: What is it? [SPEAKER_02]: Do you mean the switch?

20:59 [SPEAKER_01]: The switch I'm guessing is just like the on and off. [SPEAKER_01]: The control for the different lights. [SPEAKER_01]: Could you automate that in our system? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I guess you could probably take that apart and put like an ESP32. [SPEAKER_00]: And there are something like that.

21:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so today you can just probably just chop off whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: And stick something with W LED on it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely. [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't, I haven't messed with the yet because I know if I did it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'd probably break it and then I'll have to. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I have some people who are much more well fun than that, if you know.

21:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And then the panic sets in right. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is my, this is my gaming room. [SPEAKER_00]: So I need to be able to play play games with all the lights. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all the lights need to be happening. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Today's episode is brought to you by Clean My Mac from Matt Pop.

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22:55 [SPEAKER_01]: You've got, uh, was it the, how many out Raspberry Pi's got four or five Raspberry Pi, somebody around the house? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have a, I have a pie rack, which is nice. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, nice. [SPEAKER_00]: One of the little short small ones. [SPEAKER_00]: And so that has, you know, my, [SPEAKER_00]: You might unify switch in it, it has a couple of the other unify stuff and then it has a lot of Raspberry Pi's and then it has a screen in there that's attached to one of the Raspberry Pi's and then that displays stuff through.

23:25 [SPEAKER_00]: What is that? [SPEAKER_00]: It uses trying to think of what I'm using to display stuff on there. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a web interface that's being displayed on there with a touch screen that you can. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: How are you monitoring your home led? [SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's see here.

23:47 [SPEAKER_00]: So I get my house has its own discord and the discord has its own channels in the channels. [SPEAKER_00]: All just like talk. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just non stop talking. [SPEAKER_00]: This thing's broken, this thing's broken, this thing's working, you know, any of those sorts of things. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I also get to give you problems and no solutions.

24:06 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what, that's what, that's what I'm here. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it definitely does, and you can talk back to it and they won't do anything because it's not, it's not doing anything other than just like writing to like, you know, web hook and that's it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it, it, so the discord server is one way that I do it that quarter master software I was talking to you about that thing does it as well.

24:29 [SPEAKER_00]: It has its own Docker container that runs on on my my own raid server and it just scans a network looking for different apps and stuff like that and then putting it on to my little clean display. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's pretty much all that how I'm monitoring that stuff is a lot of a lot of things complaining and You know, just Kind of figuring out what's broken and what's not and then get in there and fix it That's it.

24:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think I have like three critical Integration errors in my home. [SPEAKER_01]: This isn't in sense. [SPEAKER_01]: That's been like that for a year [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, critical day out to me, all right, yeah, that was critical. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then to the point where the actual ones, they just critical, so I I'd fan at the other day that the power to my weather station, like the little echo with Wi-Fi bridge the power to that had been cut.

25:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't realize just how important that was. [SPEAKER_01]: Like home business was yelling at me, you're like, hey, just wasn't yelling at me loud enough with all the other free, critical things going on. [SPEAKER_01]: Because that thing controls the brightness for the house. [SPEAKER_01]: So it knows that it was shut off from the day.

25:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So it thought at nine, 10 o'clock at night, the sun was up. [SPEAKER_01]: And so the lights in the house went turning on, this brand of automations weren't firing, right? [SPEAKER_01]: So once I returned, that was the issue. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was just like, why are the lights not turning on?

25:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Why don't I have to turn? [SPEAKER_01]: Why would I have to use this switch right now? [SPEAKER_01]: Once again, we're on proving that automation works, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So yes, it's like a big cloud just went over your house or a big spotlight depending on how you want to look at it.

26:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, next off, I do have to clean up those critical notifications. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have uptime humour as well, also just monitoring, you know, all the services, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you've got, and you have this too Jason, I'm like, oh, you're docket containers that are running.

26:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Who know, like, you need to have something watching them, because you can't be watching them all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: the watchers have been watched. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: One point I got to this thing where I'm and again, this is just extremely unnecessary over engineering because it was like, okay, well, what happens if because I run a Docker swarm, right?

26:48 [SPEAKER_02]: So there's three nodes and whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: So, [SPEAKER_02]: They're like what happens if uptime kuba goes down who's watching uptime kuba so then I got into this all all Situation where I was over engineering everything and I'm like, can this is this is stupid? [SPEAKER_02]: This is my house I don't need this Like one instance is fine just to tell me something's broken [SPEAKER_01]: Reminds you that you mean with everyone pointing at each other, right?

27:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're a fly, you're a fly. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, everyone wants a status page, right? [SPEAKER_00]: You want a status page, you can just go on there and say, what's broken and what's not, and, you know, listen, I'm at the point where I don't care what's broken, go fix it.

27:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: It's all my strength. [SPEAKER_02]: We are right. [SPEAKER_02]: So so what's what's been fun as I've been playing with a lot of that kind of stuff to where it's like, hey, let's let's see, you know, I've got MCPs for the bunch of stuff, bring it all in into some agentic.

27:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I had it in Claude. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm starting to port things over to open web UI now and and I'm between that and Hermes to see. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, something's happened. [SPEAKER_02]: You have us to say jacks us to stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: You have API access. [SPEAKER_02]: Just have go go fix it.

27:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: So [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the MCP stuff's been really handy, like really really handy not being able to, you know, just just it just handles it for you Yeah, totally When you've mentioned before Jason about your disco, so for your house, I was like, oh, that would be could we have like a room there We like one agent would be like, okay, this integration is broken.

28:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell the other agent to go and fix it [SPEAKER_01]: And then I immediately thought, oh, that sounds like a very quick way to burn tokens. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, it will be just, you know, like, it'll be two agents talking to each other and being like, no, no, it's working, but it's still not working.

28:29 [SPEAKER_01]: You just go and fix it again. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so much, I wish to introduce. [SPEAKER_00]: I have a, I have a thing where every month at the end of the month, it sends me an education obviously in that, that discord. [SPEAKER_00]: And it just says, I, I tell it, just, you know, this nice little prompt that says, check everything.

28:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Check this, Raspberry Pi, check this server, check this, check this, look at everything and come back and report back what's broken, what's broken, which we fixed. [SPEAKER_00]: And then come up with the top five things that you think. [SPEAKER_00]: you know it especially like cloud cloud loves to just go oh everything's broken we have to fix all the things and you know it's like come on this it's okay this has been broken for like six weeks it's it's no big deal it's okay notification so yeah come on get with it yeah as long as it doesn't learn like the slash everyone command in in a discord I should be fine [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

29:23 [SPEAKER_02]: So how do you manage this? [SPEAKER_02]: So like from even from a notification perspective, right? [SPEAKER_02]: And and I I actually struggle with this even with Holmesis and notifications or anything like that. [SPEAKER_02]: I've got critical notifications for critical stuff like again, if motion is detected when I'm not home or something like that, right?

29:42 [SPEAKER_02]: But other than that, I find that at some point, I will just get like, it's just notification overload and I'm like, okay, another home is notification. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about for now until something happens. [SPEAKER_02]: Same thing, and so it's funny. [SPEAKER_02]: I used to do the same thing with.

30:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Uptime Kuma, like you Jason and a bunch of other stuff, I had it all going into different, either a room or a different room. [SPEAKER_02]: I actually had one point I just had one channel called Alerts, and everybody just dumps their relevant crap into there, right? [SPEAKER_02]: And it got to the point where I think I went for like a year without opening that chat, like I even forgot I had that room.

30:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, [SPEAKER_02]: because it got to the point where I'm like, it's so much that I just, I just kept ignoring it to the point where I eventually just didn't care and forgot. [SPEAKER_02]: So how do you deal with those notifications? [SPEAKER_02]: Whether it's with a discord or for everything else.

30:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Because like, how do you stop yourself from doing that? [SPEAKER_02]: Or are you, you know, it's just, you're one of those people that just, you can handle that. [SPEAKER_02]: Not like me clearly. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was actually just looking on my phone real quick because I wanted to see like what is it like what what are the types of notifications and where are they coming from that let me know in something breaks.

31:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So like looking looking in here, I you know, I do have what's it called have one app that that I use for notifications. [SPEAKER_00]: It's called like. [SPEAKER_00]: Peer. [SPEAKER_00]: I get them now, but I don't like, you know, I'd never open the app. [SPEAKER_00]: I just get the notifications like I'm going to go like, oh, that broke.

31:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Really? [SPEAKER_00]: Let me just go top in there real quick. [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a few of those that use essentially just web hooks that, you know, or something where you can just go and grab those. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think what it comes down to is just figuring out like what what things are mission critical and most of the things have to do with can you watch TV?

31:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you turn a light on? [SPEAKER_00]: And does a garage door still work? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, like those types of things, are they still working? [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, then good, we're fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Everything else is kind of secondary. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like we roll up a monthly roll-up that you had where you went in and said, hey, go check everything in.

31:58 [SPEAKER_02]: See, that's nice, because that's like, hey, here's a single thing, you can go in, check, go after that, and be like, okay, great, let's focus on these five, eight, whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a big, it's a big prompt of, you know, each of these things I want you to look at. [SPEAKER_00]: And it looks at the previous stuff to kind of see what's happening.

32:16 [SPEAKER_02]: And then, yeah, go swim there. [SPEAKER_01]: Great, that's cool. [SPEAKER_01]: Have you tried to order recover things as part of those alerts? [SPEAKER_01]: So for example, that weather station issue I was talking about. [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't ordered a recovery on it. [SPEAKER_01]: Every randomly, right?

32:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I will find that my eco-weight wifi relay has just no longer reporting from network like all my weather stats are frozen. [SPEAKER_01]: So now I have an automation. [SPEAKER_01]: If the weather stats are frozen, like the wind or the Lux sensors, they report every 30 seconds. [SPEAKER_01]: If that hasn't reported in the last 5 minutes, I know that that relay is just stop working.

32:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So I have a smart switch on it and power cycles at the time of the next railway. [SPEAKER_01]: Have you thought about putting in any order of recovery systems for that so that your home can then try and sell for parent self? [SPEAKER_00]: Well, every Friday is off and every Friday morning I get a nice, long list of notifications of all the batteries that need to be switched.

33:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm essentially like a battery manager for my home. [SPEAKER_00]: I walk around and I'm like, Oh, yeah, here's this one. [SPEAKER_00]: Ikea, you know, thing that needs to be changed and all of that. [SPEAKER_00]: There's plenty of things inside home assistant to deal with the battery management.

33:31 [SPEAKER_00]: But being able to look at that and go like, oh, okay, this one needs to be replaced. [SPEAKER_00]: I want these replaced. [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of make sure that all of those things happen on a day where I could actually look at it. [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of it showing up randomly throughout the week, I wanted to happen on a specific day, and Fridays a pretty good day to do it, because that's my day off, so I might as well just have it happen then.

33:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I did like that. [SPEAKER_00]: I think a day is the same thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Would you mind having a day, you know? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I have an AI tool that I use to block out time and using home assistant, okay, this battery is low, schedule 15 minutes on feels calendar to go and change that battery.

34:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you, like, I'm never doing that even if the AI schedule blocked out time, my calendar to do it. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's my problem right or it's like, even if it's in my calendar and I know it's not like it's not like a work like a meeting or something important.

34:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll just be like, yeah, pushing next week. [SPEAKER_00]: And the next week is the same thing, right? [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, yep. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is, this is unrelated to homosistent, but homojacent, my car. [SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of shortcuts on my phone. [SPEAKER_00]: And one of the shortcuts is every time I plug my phone into my car to be able to have it show, show up on the screen.

34:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It detects that, and then it says, hey, Jason, here's the following things that are going on today. [SPEAKER_00]: And it gives me a nice list of shows everything on your calendar for today. [SPEAKER_00]: Here's everything that's a reminder. [SPEAKER_00]: It's all voice just coming through.

35:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I've got to say something to you. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, that's nice. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the shortcut just builds it and then it hands it off to the, um, the, um, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, it sends it to Siri and has Siri kind of go off into its thing.

35:16 [SPEAKER_00]: So it uses that up on intelligence or as intelligence it can be to generate that stuff, and then have it report what's going on, which my wife thinks funny, because every time we get in the car, it wants to talk to me about what's going on for the day. [SPEAKER_00]: And then she's like, you have nothing going on today at all, I don't like, it's Friday.

35:36 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Friday's nothing going on. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, your wife is judging you, me, no. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, but yeah, that works really well for me as doing something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: Now we have some exciting news from Zeus. [SPEAKER_01]: Zeus is beginning a new chapter as part of Jusco, bringing more resources to the brand for product development, innovation and future growth.

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37:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's start talking about, you know, like going back, what kind of going back to it, but more little in depth in terms of what you're running at home. [SPEAKER_02]: What types of protocols are you using? [SPEAKER_02]: What are your, like, are you more of a matter? [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

37:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here, so I don't use Z-wave. [SPEAKER_00]: I have a little bit of Zigby stuff with the Akara devices that I have. [SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of like temperature sensors all over the place. [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of those. [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's like 11 temperature sensors around the house and then Lutron.

37:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I have [SPEAKER_00]: I try to keep things off of Wi-Fi. [SPEAKER_00]: If it sits static on a desk and it's near something that you can plug in, I just let it plug in. [SPEAKER_00]: Most of my stuff, I just don't have it on Wi-Fi unless I absolutely need to. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, in QTT, I have quite a few different things going with that.

38:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thread over, um, matter over thread. [SPEAKER_00]: I have like all the IKEA stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: There's tons of IKEA stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: I just went one day and was like, let's buy a bunch of IKEA things and make them all work. [SPEAKER_00]: And they work pretty good. [SPEAKER_00]: They work pretty good.

38:35 [SPEAKER_00]: They hold that battery wise. [SPEAKER_01]: The meta stuff, because I know there was a bit of, uh, negative press around when Rocky went all in a meta and I came with sort of like, oh, it's, we're having a few issues here. [SPEAKER_01]: How have you found that experience? [SPEAKER_00]: As long as it's not a switch, it's great.

38:53 [SPEAKER_00]: The Ghost Witches, I'm not very happy with, but for instance, I have a door sensor. [SPEAKER_00]: We use our garage door as our front door for the most part, so you go in and out of that and it's in a touch garage, so you just go in and out through that door. [SPEAKER_00]: I think last time I looked at the stat for that, I think we go into that garage door like 35 times a day.

39:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And so that thing non-stop gets open to closed, open to close. [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's a light inside the garage that automatically opens every time you open that door, open and close. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that device works really well. [SPEAKER_00]: I think I changed the battery on that, maybe every month or two.

39:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So 30 times, 30, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: So it happens a lot, it gets to use a lot. [SPEAKER_02]: And what's the reason you and I key out there instead of a car? [SPEAKER_02]: Because you said you have a ton of a car stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Make a lot of that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

39:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the car stuff? [SPEAKER_00]: I bought all of those are like the water sensors. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So all the drip sensors, all of those, if the anywhere there's water, there's one of those underneath it. [SPEAKER_00]: And those work really well and it's kind of, you know, save my butt a few times when, for instance, like, we have one that's underneath our freezer in the garage.

40:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And the garage gets warm. [SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, if the, if the garage is warm and someone forgets to like lock the, the, the freezer door, the freezer will start dripping onto the ground. [SPEAKER_00]: very loud on home home kit, but you know the home Apple start yelling at you telling you that there's like a major water leak somewhere in your house, go find it, and then you know it's in the garage.

40:39 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, nice. [SPEAKER_00]: That works out pretty good. [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Does that actually tell you which device is posting a lot more just there is a device in the home It tells you yeah, it tells you which device it is but it doesn't matter when it's too hot in the morning and sometimes you know when grab something that they're going to let defrost for the the breast son might or something like that yeah [SPEAKER_01]: In our old house, we would have the washing machine, which is leak randomly, right?

41:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So I had a flood sensor on, and I remember making, as part of the announcement from home, this is when it would detect it, it would say, yet there's a flood under the washing machine, but there will also give you actions. [SPEAKER_01]: There's towels in the laundry cabinet, like, go out from there, right?

41:22 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the closest towel or, you know, water, and vaporised [SPEAKER_01]: Because that way, you know, we're not home and, you know, like, it gets time to get, well, what do I do with this water that's leaking out? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, just go grab a towel from the laundry and chuck on the floor and push it to the floor.

41:37 [SPEAKER_02]: You, I do love that you're expecting your guests to clean that up. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I can't imagine if you're, like, at an Airbnb, and that happened, the Airbnb, like, that's like, yeah, my, my, I feel like, [SPEAKER_02]: some of my friends right yeah that's uh that's funny I completely forgot we were [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you asked me about like thread over matter, which is a matter, yeah, matter over that, rather.

42:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I mean, I like I said, I try to keep things off of, off of Wi-Fi as much as I can. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, we use, um, Apple TVs in our house, so, um, there's four Apple TVs in the house, so those are all being used as, I guess, those would be like thread border routers, if I remember correctly, for, [SPEAKER_00]: for all of the, the, I don't have the latest and greatest, but all the ones that have either known on it.

42:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, nice. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's cool. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and or the home pods can do that too. [SPEAKER_02]: I think. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the home pods too. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool. [SPEAKER_02]: So you, you talked about having this a car, uh, temperature sensors everywhere.

42:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have your thermostat too? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't. [SPEAKER_00]: I ended up getting one by a company called Miras, and Miras, they make the garage door opener thing, and then they also make the bunch of temperature sensors lens. [SPEAKER_00]: They make one, I'm looking at it right now, that's a temperature sensor that has a solar panel on the top of it.

43:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And so as long as it gets a little bit of sun, [SPEAKER_00]: it will always stay charged. [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool. [SPEAKER_00]: That thing, it just gets enough sun, barely enough sun, and it has a hundred percent all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely genius. [SPEAKER_00]: So I have one of those in my office and it works really, really well, really, really well.

43:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I was in dollars for this, like, no, no! [SPEAKER_00]: I bought it on accident to be perfectly honest like I I was looking on their site and I was like, oh, yeah, I want to get that new garage door opener thing because I was when like my cue was doing its whole And so I was like, oh, this is great.

43:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll grab this. [SPEAKER_00]: I went and grabbed this, you know, that garage opener as well as the thermostat so I have their very plain Jane looking thermostat You tap the screen and then like [SPEAKER_00]: Dometricsy looking number show up on it. [SPEAKER_00]: But that one's that one's really nice.

44:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I like that. [SPEAKER_00]: I think my set has to I think I'm mistaken. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, don't matrixy kind of. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very basic like the look. [SPEAKER_02]: I like I love how minimal it is. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not a screen, but it's not a screen that's sitting there just like, you know, but when when when Google, you know, killed its 90th, you know, thing, I was like, okay, well, I get rid of this home thing and no longer use that and then I was looking at the mirrored stuff and I was like, oh, [SPEAKER_00]: So this is great.

44:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So I have that thermostat and I also have this like thermostat, I think it is humidity and a few other things, I'm next to my bed and if you kind of touch the side or like shake it a little bit, it will light up and you'll show you like what the temperature in the room is and a few other stats.

45:02 [SPEAKER_00]: That works. [SPEAKER_00]: That works really good. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm very happy with with having all those. [SPEAKER_00]: So all those were tied into home assistant and then I have this nice little grid that shows you all of the temperatures throughout the entire house and so that way you can kind of get a rough idea of like where the hot spots are in the house.

45:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: including the attic. [SPEAKER_00]: So I have one in the attic that just tells me how hot is it? [SPEAKER_00]: You know, oh my gosh, 125 degrees or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I just have one in those in there so that way I can kind of determine why is a house hot or not.

45:34 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, outside having weather stations and that sort of thing works really well with that. [SPEAKER_00]: Nice. [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I was reading the notes that you sent us. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I go, it's my name stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the ones that stuck out to me was I'm using merely as one of your self-hosted services.

45:57 [SPEAKER_01]: We're on and I have sort of tried to use merely, stop using merely one of them. [SPEAKER_01]: But what's your secret? [SPEAKER_01]: It has merely going for you. [SPEAKER_00]: So the target audience for Melee would be my wife and she doesn't want to use it. [SPEAKER_00]: So we don't use it.

46:12 [SPEAKER_00]: It's got something, it just doesn't work for us. [SPEAKER_00]: And so we're just not going to use it. [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to be the guy who scans all the things and puts them all in the virtual shopping cart and then fill. [SPEAKER_00]: I remember you were talking about your local grocer, has an API or something that does some really fun stuff.

46:30 [SPEAKER_00]: There is one. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have that anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's it's in Europe. [SPEAKER_01]: I want one, but um, I Then I do it down here. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I'm considering you know putting claw to the task or getting an agent onto the task right and seeing we can do it ourselves [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

46:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: That would that would that would be really good. [SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine that would would would end up happening is. [SPEAKER_00]: It would come from like nine different distributors and they would all just show up in like a very weird times and you know, you know, I've just been to I'd be paying for shopping fees nine times and yeah spoiled milk the whole thing.

47:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would be it would be really fun. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, our chocolate bar with a $40 shipping fee attached to this. [SPEAKER_00]: And we sent them in six different boxes. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I like the idea of merely for, you know, these were your recipes.

47:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And what are we having for dinner tonight? [SPEAKER_01]: Just being able to solve that question. [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we've got some recipes in it. [SPEAKER_01]: We've used, but then we never look at it. [SPEAKER_01]: It's, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know what the solution is to me.

47:38 [SPEAKER_02]: For us, it's gotten relegated to basically, like, [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I found this cool recipe on Instagram, and or actually what's like, you know, at some point, either me or my wife or like, I want to have more, I don't know, whatever protein or fiber or like whatever, right? [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, so.

47:59 [SPEAKER_02]: As we go through these different phases, whatever you want to call them, I'll go in and chat you, be like, hey, I like these things, take this recipe, I found that Instagram and make it bump up the protein. [SPEAKER_02]: I like these types of flavors or like, I like noodles and like, you know, that kind of stuff.

48:16 [SPEAKER_02]: and have it generate recipes for me, and then I'll export that into a Melee JSON format or whatever you're using. [SPEAKER_02]: Nice. [SPEAKER_02]: And then I bring it into Melee, and it actually fills out like all of that stuff really nicely, and it's like, this one of calories, that's one of whatever.

48:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's all in there and then it's like, I do want to do something different today. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, yeah, you know what? [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do this and just those kind of things, right? [SPEAKER_02]: But it's not like our, like when I'd love to use it for is it's like, hey, here's your week, right?

48:50 [SPEAKER_02]: This is what you're going to eat. [SPEAKER_02]: This is what you're going to do. [SPEAKER_02]: Go buy these groceries or whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that's just not. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I ended up just using a shortcut on my phone on my iPhone that just it gives you the camera you scan the, you know, the UPC code on the back, it just adds it as a nice little checkmark list in notes and then the notes shared by my wife and I and we get a notification on both sides saying some stuff got added to it and then we just check it off as we need to so we kind of went old school when it came to something like that.

49:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's what it was like, I know we were talking about in the 2026 10 release. [SPEAKER_01]: There's just come out the homies that now supports lists and calendars from iOS or from Apple. [SPEAKER_01]: So you got to have some sync between, you're right. [SPEAKER_01]: So then you could have homies that aren't adding items to your to-do list then go straight to your phone, like your wife's and your phone.

49:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And also if homies is in the text that you've just purchased something, you could have homies and tick it off the shopping list. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the early part of it is not, you can't automate everything like in, no, you can't in the groceries. [SPEAKER_00]: So you become the human API and you're just the one that's just sneaker netting the thing back and forth, you know?

50:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I got to the live where I was tracking all the co-cans, all the leaders of Milp that we haven't stocked. [SPEAKER_01]: No, like you just, yeah, you go through Milp and those two quickly, they're always in a constant rotation. [SPEAKER_01]: And then the things that you sporadically use, you know, like how much herbs and spices we've got in the cabinet.

50:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Right? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not marking every time I use, you know, a slither of palms in, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like you're working, you're like being a barback or something, you're having to like measure out all of the bottles to see how much is left on it, kind of thing.

50:45 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh gosh, that's just way too much stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, in your ubiquity land, you're all the only on the ubiquity crisis I'm assuming. [SPEAKER_01]: Does that go as far to camera as well? [SPEAKER_00]: It does. [SPEAKER_00]: It does go with cameras as well.

50:59 [SPEAKER_00]: So on the camera side, everything goes through scripted and scripted is kind of how I pull in all of the the video cameras and stuff and be able to use those. [SPEAKER_00]: I use a lot of the cameras for essentially sensors for other cameras, so I have a PTZ camera that sits at the corner of my house and I have cameras that are on left and right of it, as well as my doorbell, which is further to the right.

51:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And so if a car pulls up in my driveway, in the driveway looking at it will notify the PTZ camera and say, hey, [SPEAKER_00]: motions happening near me. [SPEAKER_00]: And then it will turn to that preset and start recording from another camera angle. [SPEAKER_00]: So I essentially get two camera angles of everything that's happening.

51:51 [SPEAKER_00]: So if I go through my front door, the front door, that lock on the door detects that the door is open. [SPEAKER_00]: And then it tells that PTZ camera, hey, look over towards the front of the house. [SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, so that PTZ is like, oh, those cameras are just essentially sensors.

52:07 [SPEAKER_00]: They're recording, but they're being used as sensors [SPEAKER_01]: And to the person detection that you're doing on those, are they detecting who is there or it's just A person, like you've got like facial work. [SPEAKER_00]: Just A person in it, it filters out dogs, cats, all that fun stuff when I first set up my cameras, I actually made it so that if it detected an animal at night and the front door hasn't been opened at all, then we assume it's another animal, not mine.

52:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it would turn on the sprinklers. [SPEAKER_01]: That's cool. [SPEAKER_01]: So you get like the pesto layer, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it keeps keeps like the neighbor's cats or whatever out of my yard. [SPEAKER_00]: And it'll just turn on for like 30 seconds. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's just, yeah, and it would just turn on.

52:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So that between like the, the raccio, uh, you know, interface with with that for the, uh, [SPEAKER_00]: The sprinklers, and then having the camera's active sensors, you're able to determine like, you know, is there somebody walking to the front door, and if so, then the PTZ camera points at that person as they walk up the steps to lead up to my front door, and then once they get there, they get another sensor saying, you're at the front door and it'll zoom in, so you could actually see them from a second angle.

53:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really like this because now you're using multiple cameras to sort of get the highlight, [SPEAKER_00]: As well as notifications, so like on the Apple TV, we have in our living room, and the corner on the right-hand side of the screen, it'll show that person walking by on the camera and they'll switch to the other camera and it'll show that person walking by as well.

53:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's constantly looking to see like while you're watching TV, you can see the person walking up to your house. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It's sort of like, um, uh, how you'd get reality TV rather, if it'd change the angles, so you can just keep everything in frame. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

53:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That's cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're in my front yard, there's at least two camera angles that are happening in one from that PTZ camera and then one from the static cameras that are just facing out. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Nice. [SPEAKER_01]: As you said, scripted handles all that.

54:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Scripted handles the majority of it and then there's like a Python script that runs such as if this and that if this and that and it just kind of runs through and points it in the correct direction. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's just bunch of presets that are set on that ubiquity PTZ.

54:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Stay outside there with those cameras e-brain cameras inside then as well. [SPEAKER_01]: Nope. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, just now single camera inside the only camera I have inside is one that we call the away cam and it's one of those little USB powered Wi-Fi cameras and We usually put that in the living room when we leave for like vacation or something like that [SPEAKER_00]: And that thing just, you know, it starts to notify me if anything moves or anything like that.

54:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's good idea, actually. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, when I saw people have like PTC cameras, it will turn around. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so you can't have this type of, yeah, I just think it was a bit powered. [SPEAKER_01]: Camera, then when I'm going into vacation mode, power gets enabled on that.

55:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a way. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's a family rule. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the family rule is we don't put cameras now, so. [SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that. [SPEAKER_00]: That camera gets disconnected and then we all know we're plugging it in and then you can see that's plugged in.

55:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know people that use the friend of mine uses those little, uh, one of those little tiny crappy cameras. [SPEAKER_02]: They were super cheap and I really love them a lot than they became like the wise, the wise cameras. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's just, but he's got, I think a couple of older ones, he's just using them whenever he travels the same thing, plugs it in, faces there, he's got a, he's in a condo, right?

55:44 [SPEAKER_02]: So he just faces the door and you can see if anybody opens the door, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's fine, it works. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, works good. [SPEAKER_01]: And you mentioned there, you have the retro on the sprinklers as well. [SPEAKER_01]: Anything else outside that you've been ornamented?

55:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I do have one. [SPEAKER_00]: So we were growing, um, we have a lime tree in our front yard. [SPEAKER_00]: And we wanted to watch and see that lime tree grow. [SPEAKER_00]: And so homocystent, there's an automation that just looks, it tells that PTZ camera every day at 8 a.m. [SPEAKER_00]: I want you to look at this, at this spot and then take a picture of it.

56:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And then it saves it to my Google Drive. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I just can look through the Google Drive and see all those photos of this tree growing. [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's really neat because you don't have to do anything. [SPEAKER_00]: Like you literally do nothing in every week, you just get a photo.

56:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And it just shows up there. [SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, that's a fun one. [SPEAKER_00]: It was one of those things where like, [SPEAKER_00]: I have a preset that's already set up to kind of watch that spot anyhow. [SPEAKER_00]: So every morning it just does it at 8 a.m. and you can just see that.

56:46 [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess you can do it as many times as you wanted if you really wanted to get a cool little, you know, show something going. [SPEAKER_00]: It growing. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it reminds me of that. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you're really cool. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also a peek from New Zealand who had the camera outside to say, how you don't forget to look at the sunset.

57:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you know, take a photo of the sunset, send it to go, hey, like it's a nice sunset. [SPEAKER_01]: Go out and have a look at it, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've toyed with the idea of putting one up on the roof and pointing out. [SPEAKER_00]: I live on a hill, so being able to look out and see.

57:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So being able to see like we have an island out on the coast called Catalina, so being able to look out that direction. [SPEAKER_00]: So that'd be really cool to be able to do that. [SPEAKER_00]: But I haven't implemented that yet because for one it's probably just going to get beat down from the heat.

57:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like just. [SPEAKER_00]: that poor white camera is just going to turn so yellow. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's going to crisp me as well. [SPEAKER_00]: And fragile, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he don't let it shut down. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.

57:43 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the things regarding outside, so I wrote a blog post on my site about this. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's this really cool project that this group did that is for listening to birds. [SPEAKER_00]: It's called burdenet. [SPEAKER_00]: And so what it is is just a Docker container, you install.

58:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It's real quick and easy. [SPEAKER_00]: When it's installed, you just tell it, I want you to look at all the RTSP feeds from all of my cameras and grab the audio off of them. [SPEAKER_00]: And then it uses AI to listen to those bird calls, and then you'll identify the bird calls. [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a couple of different models, one's called Perch by Google, that you can install just in their little library of models.

58:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it's so cool. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we've [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like like today I'm looking at the list here and we've had like 389 California thrashers and 338 house finches and just those calls all throughout the day and we have this really great tree out front of my house and it it just so many birds and then at night it turns in all the owls that are in the area captures those owls [SPEAKER_00]: So you could do that, my wife just loves birds.

59:03 [SPEAKER_00]: And so she was just like, she'd take her phone out and she would like hold her phone out to like, oh, you know, can I hear the bird and then be able to identify it using the app. [SPEAKER_00]: And when I found this, I was like, oh, this is just like, this is a cool automation for my wife.

59:16 [SPEAKER_00]: So now that gets put into home assistant so you can get a nice little list and then there's a there's another there's another project I can't remember the name of it I'll have to give it to you for the show notes or something but what it does is it shows you it makes a web page of all the birds that it's hearing right now and displays those birds as drawings.

59:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've seen this. [SPEAKER_02]: I was just going to say that this project also looks sounds like you've already found it so cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Like what I would love to do is I would my wife's not going to listen to this, but I would love to do this. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a Christmas present or something like that, but get like a nice e-ink display and put it up on the wall and have it just display all of those birds that would be the coolest.

1:00:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So so yes, so. [SPEAKER_02]: You get it still in the box, but I can't find my other ones, but I've got the 13.3 Spectrasix display, ePaper display. [SPEAKER_02]: That would be perfect. [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen people do, I think I might have seen one for birds, maybe, or maybe I'm confusing it.

1:00:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen one for airplanes, where people try to Yes, airplanes and it draws like vintage posters of those airplanes that are tried that are above your head kind of thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we live at the, we live below the, the approach for LAX. [SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, we, we have all the airplanes fly by.

1:00:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I would love, I mean, be cool to have it switch between those, you know, throughout the very kind of thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: That's cool, I bet you know, so it's a bird net thing because I have heard that for, but I think my impression was that you had to get a microphone and stick a microphone RTSP baby, just pulls them right off of those cameras.

1:01:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's my business. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the feed for my doorbell, which is a ubiquity doorbell, that one gets has the best. [SPEAKER_00]: And if you live in an area where there's a lot of bats, you can turn on a bat version of it so you can hear all the bats. [SPEAKER_00]: You have to have a special microphone for that, but you'll be able to grab all the bats.

1:01:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Like down the street from my house, there's a bat box. [SPEAKER_00]: that's this huge box that's on a pole and bats live in there and so they just fly out at night and you know make their little ultrasonic sounds and it could potentially pick it up if I had the correct microphone for it.

1:01:48 [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was a free one, didn't you have to do nothing just, just, just, yes, or T.S. [SPEAKER_02]: and you're good to go. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not, I'm not even like a bird, like a fishing knot or anything. [SPEAKER_02]: But that just sounds cool, like, it is cool, it is really cool.

1:02:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Like a little, a little hobby thing, right? [SPEAKER_00]: It's, uh, [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was it was the blog post that I posted about it. [SPEAKER_00]: It ended up on hacker news and I ended up with about like 30,000 views of just because of that one post that I wrote six months ago. [SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't even write the software.

1:02:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I just like talked about it really well, I guess, and so it just just worked out. [SPEAKER_00]: That's right. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fun stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I was going to ask you what your favorite automations are, but I mean, I [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, there's, yeah, there's a few, there's a few sounds like that should be up there.

1:02:38 [SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's a, yeah, that one's pretty up there. [SPEAKER_00]: I have one that my going back to the doorbell, the doorbell has a little screen on it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's an older model and it has a little screen that I think you can put like, maybe you put the little messages or something.

1:02:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So I have an automation that every night it says something different, it sets it up for the next day. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, you know, Wednesday vibes or Thursday this or Friday that it's almost Friday on Thursday, like goofy stuff like that. [SPEAKER_00]: And I had it do.

1:03:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I had it do a whole bunch of different lyrics for different songs that have days of the week in it and so you just give it a nice little array of here's all of these to go through and it just picks a random one. [SPEAKER_00]: So that was fun. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So we went and then what's nice about that is that also ties to the calendar and home assistant.

1:03:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So the calendar and home assistant, you can turn on all the various like national holidays or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: So you'll tell you, you know, Merry Christmas or whatever on those days and it just updates that little thing that no one's actually looking at but me when I walk my dog outside and let him go pee.

1:03:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I really hope on April Fool's Day. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, Rick rolling people, but not that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, it totally could just, like, if you're, if you're smart enough, you know, if you give it the right info, it could say, like, welcome so-and-so, like whoever that person is when they walk up, that would be very creepy, but it could totally do it.

1:04:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's cool. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that one. [SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing that I have automation was I have two different things regarding the TV. [SPEAKER_00]: So my air conditioner, the main unit, that kind of like the part that does all the intake, is a little loud when watching TV.

1:04:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it actually uses HDMI CMC to tell the TV to turn the volume up when the air conditioner turns on. [SPEAKER_00]: And then if the door opens, it'll actually tell the air conditioner not to continue while the door's open. [SPEAKER_00]: So, that way you're not air conditioning in the neighborhood, you know, so the door actually tells the air conditioner to turn it off and on.

1:04:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And then another one I have is if you're watching TV through JellyFan, it'll actually pull up information about the show that you're watching and display that on a nest hub that I still have underneath my TV. [SPEAKER_01]: So it gives you like a little here's here's when the show's gonna be over and what show you're watching and that's sort of thing So that was a fun little one to to mess around with For the TV I find that depending on the input like if you're switching like through the TV tuner or like the Netflix app For us on the TV the volume is not in day all right like yeah Netflix to live TV and you like where's the sound gone you need to apply first and then you get blast with sound

1:05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: So I have an automation in home. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a very simple. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just what's the input? [SPEAKER_01]: Is it the live TV input adjust the signal same bar to X And any other input adjust it back down to that. [SPEAKER_01]: Nice. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's my question.

1:05:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to change the input? [SPEAKER_01]: You have to change the volume right now Attempts roughly say the same volume. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's cool. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the, uh, you said they are you doing jellyfish, uh, the, the nest, uh, is actually like using the nest, uh, stock, uh, where's or if you hacked it to have something that's using the stock OS and what it does is the automation generates a 30 second long video.

1:06:19 [SPEAKER_00]: of a static image and then it casts it using cast up to that screen. [SPEAKER_00]: Cool. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that works good. [SPEAKER_00]: The other one that it does is that the PTZ camera detects any movement that is not generated from any of the any of the sensors from the cameras that it will display that up on the screen.

1:06:39 [SPEAKER_00]: So like my my home assistant servers just kind of transcoding that that video and [SPEAKER_00]: And that's really nice because it doesn't disturb you while you're watching TV because it's literally like moving around the entire time, so it's kind of annoying. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's cool.

1:06:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think Jason, this is pretty much the end. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for joining us. [SPEAKER_01]: Where can people find your blog if they want to go and read all those articles that you've been pushing you out? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's my name, Jason Tucker dot blog. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

1:07:14 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll leave links of course in the channels on Homestistent.fm. [SPEAKER_01]: Jason, thank you very much for being my executive producers on Patreon and supporting the show. [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to get early access to episodes with an ad-free feed, like Slack Jason, yeah, you can go to Homestistent.fm for us as Patreon, for us got Apple Music and you can join us on the YouTube channel as well.

1:07:34 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're not already subscribed, yeah, thank you very much Jason for joining us. [SPEAKER_01]: A problem. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for having me. [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it. [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_02]: Cheers.