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Shownotes
Alessio Fanelli, founder of Kernel Labs and co-host of Latent Space podcast, walks us through two very different AI workflows: (1) a fully autonomous coding setup using OpenAI Symphony + Linear, where Linear acts as a state machine and Symphony manages agents through the whole dev lifecycle with zero babysitting; (2) Codex with browser access searching eBay for underpriced Pokémon cards—autonomously browsing, extracting PSA certificate numbers, and flagging deals on $10K–$20K cards for his San Carlos card shop, Merlin Games.
What you’ll learn:
• Why “agent manager” is a better mental model than “agent prompter”
• Why local Mac Minis don’t scale, and what a cloud VPS unlocks
• How to wire Symphony and Linear together as an agent state machine
• How to track token costs per task (and what 221 million tokens buys you)
• What Glimpse does, and why better agent senses extend autonomous runs
• Why your CLAUDE.md probably needs a full purge, not more instructions
• How Codex scouts underpriced $10K Pokémon cards on eBay at scale
• The new category of small business that AI just made possible
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In this episode, we cover:
() Intro
() Prompter vs. agent manager
() Live demo: Symphony + Linear
() Setting up Symphony
() Purging your skills files
() The benefits of this system
() Demo: Using Codex to hunt for Pokémon cards
() The benefit of AI for small businesses
() Lightning round
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Tools referenced:
• OpenAI Codex: openai.com/codex
• OpenAI Symphony (open-source framework): github.com/openai/symphony
• Linear (project management/agent state machine): linear.app
• PSA (Professional Sports Authenticator) grading: psacard.com
• TCGplayer (card pricing): tcgplayer.com
• eBay (used for card price scouting): ebay.com
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Other references:
• Meta Ray-Ban glasses: ray-ban.com/usa/ray-ban-meta-smart-glasses
• The Monk and the Riddle by Randy Komisar: amazon.com/Monk-Riddle-Creating-Making-Living/…
• The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri: amazon.com/dp/0451208633
• AS Roma (football club Alessio and Claire are both fans of): asroma.com/en
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Where to find Alessio Fanelli:
X: x.com/FanaHOVA
Latent Space podcast: latent.space
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Where to find Claire Vo:
ChatPRD: chatprd.ai
Website: clairevo.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/clairevo
X: x.com/clairevo
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