Gilmore Girls Gazette: Parenthood Let’s Not Do A Love Triangle Anymore (Season 4 E13 & E14)

I Am all in again Gilmore Girls Gazette with Amy Sugarman and Danielle Romo, an iHeart Radio podcast.

Welcome to an episode of Parenthood recap.

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A little surprise in the middle.

Well, do you see what I'm talking about these episodes?

Oh brutal?

Just know they went a little too much of it, you know what I'm saying, Like, give me one heavy storyline and the rest sort of not as much.

Which one would you like to start with? Because I got thoughts on all Let's start with Drew and I knew knew you were going to start on that one. Amy is pregnant.

Was it all done in the one because we're watching two at a time now, was it all the storyline in one episode or did it go over both?

Oh?

One? Because when you watch it like two back to back, you can't differentiate.

It was just an episode thirteen, Yeah, one episode. It was just an episode thirteen and That's how we.

Ended right with him crying, like literally falling.

He wants to have a baby and she wants she had an abortion.

Right, and then he goes to I almost said LAURALI goes to his mom, Sarah.

Oh.

I loved that though.

That was amazing. We've seen that with Lauren Graham before, that sort of like what's happening, what's happening, what's going on?

Thing?

Yeah, but it was that had me.

We need to talk about how she had no idea though, and the only reason why she tried sniffing it out was because.

Of Mark correct Mark, and she got it wrong. Do you think she still doesn't know? She doesn't know now right?

Do you think Mark knew Marks?

No? But I think Mark knew and knows it's not senior college stuff. He knows something is actually really wrong wrong. And even when she sort of said it's college stuff, I think he was like, Okay, but no, it's not.

Yeah, you know, I think it took a lot of balls. Balls. I was trying to find a different word because I know you don't like that word.

I like the word, I just don't say the word.

A lot of courage, immaturity for him to having the history that him and Sarah recently had and events.

A segue to him going waiting for it first of all, a little weird waiting outside the photo studio, sure, and that he's like I'm gonna get her back, blah blah blah. The part that I liked was when he said to her, to Sarah, I didn't fight for you enough. I let you go too easy. Because he's right. That hurts, right, this is really bailed.

This is my one thing that like makes me just die and cringe is he walks in. She's at the computer with Hank. They're clearly flirty, flirty now you know there's.

Some there like together.

Almost right, And for him to just walk in break that up, and for ilmost said Laura.

And he's your kid.

It's just like what for Sarah to be like like kind of flirt you with Mark? I'm like, what if it's.

Very trianglely right, It's like they're sort of not a triangle.

I want I want there to be separate lanes right now.

It's funny you say that because Sarah and Hank and Mark are not triangle people right right, They're like they're not going to be trianglely and so in the fact that they've got this triangle going.

This is a hot take for me, But can we not be in a triangle with Sarah anymore? Like we already did this.

Right, I'm surprised they brought it back up again. I think it plays out one more episode until the end of this season, okay, and then it kind of goes away. I don't think Mark seer. He shows up again one one or two more times in the series, but we don't have this triangle situation for long. I don't think.

Yeah, okay, my memory was actually because.

I actually thought Drew went to Hank about the pregnancy, but I was.

I want Sarah to be with Hank. I want them to be awkward and lovely and run their photo studio together. And I want Hank to be the principal one day, Like I just I want to be principal. Sorry, yes, I want Mark to be the principal one day. I just I'm over the triangle. Let's let's move on fair. It's fair, fair fair Drew. Oh yeah, Drew, for sure, Poor Drew, Poor Bru, poor Amy, poor Amy. I mean, she is in a.

Very correct and it's going to like break them up right, I think this might be the end of Amy, right, I think so really, but you know what I mean on the show, I mean that is five six or whatever.

That whole scenario is life changing. It is crazy. I mean the.

Portrayal is accurate, right, Like they're all doing what It's very realistic, is what I would say. It's just brutal. I'm not sure we needed more heaviness with Drew. I'm just not sure we need it that right.

I want you to be happy. I want him to be thriving, and he has never thrived at all.

Well, I mean we haven't that sort of dark stuff with Amber and.

That whole situation and Joel and Victor.

Well, first of all, we're gonna get to that. You're not gonna like what's coming.

Let me tell you you're not. Oh I can already see it. I already see it, can I guess? Yeah, Joel's going to go off with Victor and Julia is gonna be well no, because oh no, it's not.

You're not right. But like there's definitely trouble in Paradise with our favorite couple.

Uh yeah, I can see that because they are handling this so differently, which also Okay.

Joel is right and Julia is wrong even though she's struggling. When you make that decision to adopt.

A child, you have you you adopt the child.

There's no turning back, even if the child is struggling, because guess what a child you birth can be struggling also a right, there's also then they're also like being so unfair to Sydney, like still these kids the same because and also first of all, the biggest fail was like this child who has a mom who's like there was drugs and prison. If I remember, first of all, the whole thing is very far fetched because they would never it would never. They would the goal would always be to return the child to the birth mother, even if the child, even if the mother is in prison.

I just don't think that it wouldn't go this way. So that part's weird to me. But Julia, like what this.

I think in Julia's head, she was going to adopt a child and it was going to be perfect, and that child was going to fit in perfectly, and it was going to be her missing piece and all the in, all the things right, she she had rose colored glasses on. And I feel like now that she's faithd with adversity here, like literally challenge on challenge on challenge. I'm not denying what she's going through is hard. But Joel is like, dude, this is the commitment we made. You're you're giving up like this, you know, like this is this is an older child who has it's you know it.

Joel is a real winner. He's a real winner. He is right. I don't really have anything to blame for him. I thought the way he handled the situation with is his name Ryan Ambers, like.

Kind of yeah, Ryan was also good?

Yeah, great, that was great. Okay, question for you. I loved the scene with Crosby talking to Julia when she's breaking down. Although acting like brother and sister is really hard because brothers and sisters.

Like Peter Cross them, Lauren Greight, they're just not.

I don't want to make all these people right, they're just not. Like have you ever seen a TikTok It's like a TikTok trend where the sister tries to hug the brother and the brother literally punches the sister basically like the brothers like you are gross too, and like punches. I wouldn't even do that, Like sometimes my baby brother I might like, but like they their portrayals of siblings is way too affectionate. Now, I will say my nieces are like my little nieces are. They always put their arms around each other and they're like best friends type of vibe. But like, I don't know any brother sister.

Just mark at my brother and I'm like, please stop talking to me, look in my direction. Uh So that was a beautiful scene except that.

It didn't play. It didn't play.

I mean, they could be nice to each other, but it's just two. There's almost like sometimes they touch each other's faces or they they act act using quotes like coworkers that really like each other, right right, because like a coworker I might hug and be like, oh you're amazing, or like a best friend, but like not a sibling.

What are your thoughts when now speaking in Crosby of Crosby Jasmine, Jasmine's mom and all the things. I don't think he was wrong and being like Renee at all, you got a job, you gotta take it like we're here, we're here to support you when you don't have a job, but you have the opportunities.

He's wrong about like, don't tell me like, well, first of all, the whole breakfast eating thing was kind of nuts because Crosby made the nice breakfast kid didn't want to eat it, so they give him a bar and then Crosby's like all mad, and I'm just like wait, but she's overstepping. And also when you're like staying with somebody and they're like putting all your bills.

Side, like I'm not you want, but I get it. I think if my mom lived with us, like she'd be like that. She'd be like, let me make you food.

Would surely be like that. She would be also redecorating. She'd be like I mustn't go here, which also my background makes it seem like I need her to come over because it's real messy right now in my background. But that's fine. I just stand strong on and I'm glad they gave us a little more backstory of like she had this job, there was budget cuts, she had this job she loved. Just that woman had savings. She's not losing.

She has a four to one car and you know, like she's good.

One could retire. She's got that much savings. Like that's what I'm saying. She just would never be in a predicament like this where she has to go crash at.

Her daughter's just agree with you.

Also, Crosby, it was rich of him to make fun of the laundry when it's like, bro, you didn't do your own laundry.

Either, right, that was a good call out from Jasmine being like and he's like, oh, but look, because I lived on a boat. We don't annoying.

Rosbie's being annoying, Jasmin's being annoying, the mother in law's being annoying, the the brother in law's being annoying, meaning Jasmine's brother. And I don't care, Like that's my problem with this storyline. I just don't care other than like Jabbar being adorable and I do want to watch him. The rest, I'm like, I don't care.

Fair Well, you were talking about Ryan earlier in this episode, and he gets his job back and.

He are strong in this.

He came back strong. He still scares me in the sense of I just I'm scared for Amber and it's just not like.

Recovered.

Right, He's got a lot of he's got a lot of work to do.

I don't fault it, but he needs more work to do, just because it's so traumatizing what is probably the way I would say it.

I do find it interesting that he like calls Zeke in the middle of the night and has that relationship with him, and of course, of course Zeke answers his call. Like I, I love the relationship the two of them have together because no one understands and more than Zeke does, and so I love that. I love that they have that understanding of each other, and and they don't have to hide they are to each other, you know, like they get it. They get each other, which I love that he has that in the Braverman family because that could be hard to enter a family that doesn't know that, that doesn't understand you.

It's very complicated, right, the whole thing. And I would call this a storyline that I am liking more because it doesn't feel tropy. It does feel it does doesn't feel too dark yet, but it also feels dramatic and real and heavy with light moments too. Do you know totally this is how I feel? Okay? First of all, First of all, my favorite storyline by far by far is everything with Max.

I know by the body odor.

Laughing, laughing out loud when Zeke and Camille come over and they're talking about all the like sex stuff with puberty.

I was, oh, I said the word.

I was laughing so hard because Camille and Zeke were exactly what you would expect them to be because they're kind of hippies Berkeley. They're not going to be jarred by this. They totally know how to like like be grandparents to Max. They don't treat him different, do you know what I'm saying?

Right, So they're just like, yeah.

It's great, of course.

I do.

Like they're awesome grandparents. They are so great cool.

And Christina was so like frigid and like stressing and she should have just left the room and let them handle it.

I agree. I did find it very sweet when he when that's this episode, right he was talking to Adam about about sex and and and Max. I'm I'm not ready for this, and Adam was like okay.

And Adam was like whatever bothered or nervous about that? When I was like, okay, this this kid. I thought it was great that he listened to what he needed to listen to. And then he was like, yeah, I'm gonna tap out on the rest because I'm not ready for that right now.

I love that I thought. I thought that was so well played, and I love that Adam didn't push it.

Actor is so brilliant that plays Max. I know it's now in Ted.

He's he's so good. He is so isn't his say Max too?

Yeah, yeah, he's so good in this show. It's crazy.

Yeah, no, he's so good. But I feel like Adam's character would be one to like keep pushing and be like no, no, no, you need to listen to this, you need to hear this stuff, you need to learn about this. And I love that Adam was just like you know what, dude, Yeah, I'm too Yeah, yeah yeah.

And they're just so stoked that he took the shower and it's I mean, the writing of this storyline was so brilliant because from the Camille Zeke stuff all that, and then he's like, I washed my my pard balls. It's all my words. I hate every word. I hate armpits he.

Said, it all balls but crack or whatever he said.

I'm like, oh my god, I was laughing so hard. That was needed. Levity.

The slow motion of him walking out of the shower just was.

Was really funny.

It was yeah, and was wearing his robe so it was so good.

So that was very good. That was very good.

We needed it, We needed it in this episode where everything's so heavy.

Yeah, I'm kind of bored by Crosby and Jasmine. Yeah, for usual, they kind of got the short end of the stick.

Always they go in and out. They have the best is my favorite.

But it's also like.

I'm over it. I can't, I can't.

You know, I wanted to be unicorns and rainbows.

All.

No, it's not that I don't want to be unicorns and rainbows. I just feel like it's so fundamentally not them, and it's just not I don't know. I want them to go through hard shit, but like worse before it gets better. They also are the best teammates in this entire show, so it's kind of like feels inauthentic to who they are as a couple. That's all I can say.

It just feels very out of character.

Yeah, I mean, she's just struggling, like she's got no job, she has no identity. She really feels hurt by. I thought Crosby said it best, like who like you're the mother he needs. It doesn't matter if he's saying he likes you or not. You know, I don't know. I thought there's things about that storyline. I like, it's just getting a little redundant. But they can't I get it.

They can't just suddenly be like no, I'm fine and I love my family and my sister.

What no, right, oh man, Well it's it's all good. You know, it's crazy. Next week is the final.

I know this, so I was going to ask you this. I think we watched the final and the first one of five.

Yeah, I think so too. We've been doing at time. So that episode, those I mean, those are it's the season opener and season ender. Always it's going to be the big two best episodes. So I'm here.

I'm still going to give these a nine point five.

Like, yeah, I actually agree with I do agree with that. All right, Well, we'll come back for the finale.

Anti for me.

He's in four finale, Season five premiere. Yeah, all right, Well, Braverman's out. Everybody, don't forget.

Okay,

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