HUGE UPDATE: What's Happening With Our Show & What's Next

0:00Josh What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Limitless. You probably have some questions. It's been a little while. What has it been? Three weeks and two days, something like that. Not that we've been counting, but we have some updates. This is an update video letting you know what's been going on over the past few weeks, what will be going on over the next few weeks, months, and hopefully years.

0:18Josh And as you can see, Vijay is right by my side. Things are good.

0:21Ejaaz I don't know which side you are, Josh.

0:22Josh All is well, yeah. I think, yeah, you're giving, wait, I'll give the hug, put the arm out. There we go. Yeah, there's our virtual hug. All is well. We have some updates. Ejaz, you want to fill people in about what's been going on

0:34Ejaaz The last few weeks? Oh, what hasn't been going on?

0:37Josh It's been excruciatingly painful. Listen, we miss you guys so much. And we see all the messages.

0:41Ejaaz We have missed you guys. Yes. Can we talk about the messages, Josh? The amount of people that have messaged me, and I'm sure it's been the case for you as well, being like... Have you and josh broken up like is everything good between you and josh just to address the the rumors josh and i are very well i can still see him in his window well actually there's a building that's obstructing his view but he's still we.

1:02Josh Live right next to each other also and the messages the outpouring of messages has been so kind and so generous and it's really nice to to see the support from the people who have

1:10Ejaaz Watched yes it has and okay so let's go through like a quick kind of i guess list of things that have been happening um, the first thing is we've been working on some stuff behind the scenes and what that looks like is a new partnership that comes in the form of this company that had been listening to us and we're actually fans of the show they've been listening to us for about three to four months and they kind of reached out they were like hey how can we work with you you know you guys are looking for like sponsorship or like you know you want to expand the show and build it on a bigger scale and so that's what we've been working on behind the scenes.

1:45Ejaaz And it's been excruciating not being able to talk about it with you guys and figure out how to communicate with this and put out new episodes for you folks. But we've finally reached a point where we're comfortable enough to do that. And we're excited to be back on the show. So I guess update number one is Yahoo Finance has agreed to work very closely to put out AI content to you.

2:07Ejaaz We talk about all the headline news, trending topics, new releases, new models, but there is also another update.

2:13Josh Yes, when EJ says us, he means us a little more sparingly than normal. Because... As of now, this is going to be a different type of show where I will be less involved. And this is the part that breaks my heart. As this whole process was going on with Yahoo and we were figuring out how to transition, some of you who have been sleuthing around the internet realized that I also had a role at Anthropic as a contractor.

2:38Josh I have decided to continue to pursue that and continue to work at Anthropic as a full-time job at a full-time capacity. And it's doing similar stuff to what we're doing here on the show. Oh, it's creating content. It's talking about AI. It's just doing so at the place that we talk about on all of our episodes. And it was really difficult.

2:58Josh Ejaz and I, we worked through a lot of the logistics of what this would look like and just kind of making sure it was cool by everybody. So instead of me being the host of every episode, I will be involved much more sparingly. I'm here today. I will hopefully be dropping in every once in a while. But Ejaz is now going to be shepherding you through the singularity and beyond for all of these daily episodes.

3:20Josh And like, I do have to just thank everyone for the support and just like being here today in general, listening to this episode, you guys, this is number two, three, four. We've recorded 234 episodes of the show, which is just like an unbelievable journey that we've gone on over the last, what has it been like 15, 16 months.

3:41Josh And the support that we've garnered over the last year from all the people who just reached out over the last couple of weeks, concerned, wondering where we've been, missing their favorite daily show. It's been so nice and just really sweet to... To feel the, I guess, like compassion from the audience that we've, we've built the community that we have and like miss you.

4:03Josh We'll miss you, but we'll continue to provide content on a regular basis through our pal over here, Ejaz, who is now, I will say much more resourced. Ejaz will be in a studio filming a real show, um, and doing so at a regular cadence. So it's yeah, kind of a weird, weird, big change, tough change to talk about.

4:22Ejaaz It's huge.

4:23Josh But, um, but like a new, a new chapter a new era for for both of us

4:28Ejaaz I want to address the you moving on to anthropic because it's kind of like going through a breakup josh i i i told you this like the pit in my stomach definitely reassures dude i i was like like we've been friends for so long and like we started this show literally in our bedrooms stemming from conversations that we had offline before we ever sat in front of a camera and so dude it's like extremely bittersweet and i've i've said all of this to you off camera but like, gonna miss you man like seriously like it's and we have like had the most funnest times i've had the most funnest times ever on this show and i'd be lying if i said that like you know um the new version would be would ever feel the same um i don't think we can ever replace you but the intention of

5:10Ejaaz the new version of this show is that we maintain that core kind of like dna um and and that's you know it's going to be me for now and i'm going to try my hardest to meet the very high bar that we, you and I set on this show so far. And hopefully, hopefully bring the type of content and insights and sometimes very unhinged takes that you guys have been used to listening to.

5:35Ejaaz And I want to emphasize the point that you just made, Josh, which is like the. Loyalty and outpour of support that we've seen from you folks just over the last couple of weeks has been insane. You said it was three weeks, Josh. It has felt like three months. I don't know about you, but like, it has felt like an eternity.

5:53Ejaaz And there have been times where I'm like, I get these DMs and I'm like, I really want to explain what's going on, but like I can't. And it's this really difficult thing where we're still trying to work through some operational challenges. But yeah, like it's going to be a new version of the show and I'm super excited to do it.

6:08Ejaaz I hope you guys will join me and us and producer Luke, who's still behind the scenes, joining us on this new thing forwards as we kind of put out more content and capture the frontier. But the cool part is we've always said on this show, we've always kind of been like this armchair critic or this armchair expert that has been yapping at you guys, it'll be nice to have an official.

6:30Ejaaz Subject matter expert in the form of Josh appear on the show every now and again. In the arena, letting us know all the latest and greatest of what's going on at one of the top research labs in the world, which is awesome to see. The other thing I'll say is, In this new partnership, it's very important that we maintain the core DNA of this show, which has ended up being me, us, Luke, producer Luke, and all the creative kind of aspects that come with that.

6:56Ejaaz And I just want to emphasize that that is exactly what it's going to be. We're going to try and maintain that high bar that we set between the two of us and put out content that hopefully you guys enjoy. So you guys are very key and important here. We don't have any restrictions. We can make whatever type of episode or show that we want, and we take a lot feedback seriously so we hope you guys will join us on that journey um and i'm super excited by it albeit a little upset um that josh is moving on but i'm super pumped for you dude.

7:23Josh Yeah i want to explain a little more context but i also want to share the lore of limitless because i don't think a lot of people know behind the scenes what actually goes on how big is the team how we get things done like everything that you see in limitless is done by three people and two of them are on screen right now we have a very small team we have a very lean team that pumps out four episodes a week and it's myself ejaz and producer luke who edits all the videos um luke is graciously going with ejaz to yahoo to continue that side of things and then i want to explain just a little bit of the thinking behind it because i feel like i do owe it to the people to just like share what What happened here so it's like the dream for me has there's been two parallel

8:01Josh dreams which is one creating content to being at the frontier of technology all the things that we love all the things that we do um and then these two opportunities kind of happens within a few months of each other simultaneously one was to talk about the thing the other was to talk about the thing while building the thing and it feels like such a rare opportunity to contribute to a frontier lab in a meaningful way doing like what i'm responsible for is a lot of the content creation and the social channels and distributing videos and i'll be on a bunch of videos over there and it seemed like an opportunity that i could contribute as a non-technical person in a meaningful way that can make a difference and that to me was really

8:37Josh important to to give it a try and see it through. And We chatted about it. I have all the faith in the world that after 234 reps, you're pretty good at this thing. And I think we're both pretty good at this thing. And the product will not die as a result. It will just look a little bit different. And I think that is okay.

8:55Josh And we'll both still be creating content in our own worlds. And we'll both sync up when it makes sense. And I think that's like going to be, that's the explanation. At least that's kind of the reasoning and the thinking behind it. It's going to be weird though. and it's different because we dude so much has changed since we recorded episode one like episode one i think was may 17th 2025 something around there i think it was sean mcguire as the guest I remember, like, I was going through a few of our episodes, particularly the new model launch demo episodes that I was, like, clicking through just to see.

9:27Josh And I remember not even, what was it, like, eight or nine months ago, we were stoked just to have, like, a little sprite on screen running through a 3D world. Oh, my God. And that was, like, the coolest demo in the world. Like, we couldn't believe it. We posted a short about it. The short went viral.

9:42Josh It was, like, our best performing short ever because, holy crap, you can prompt a model to make, like, a game. And fast forward to today it's like dude if you if you prompt a model you'll get like you're getting like call of duty now in one prompt it is like a full-blown triple a game in fact i was going to ask you if you've been interested about any topics recently because one of the things that i got one-shotted with recently was um the reverse compiling of games i don't know if you've seen this on x but like as an avid gamer myself i've loved gaming since the beginning of time i still play every day i got my controller right here on my desk it doesn't leave my side um people who've been using these ai models the more recent frontier ones they've

10:21Josh been reverse compiling these games back to their source code rebuilding them in a different language to bypass the ip laws and then just allowing you to play them and remix them together i found this so unbelievable that you can have like portal 2 with call of duty zombies in one or i saw like tiger woods driving like a car through like A Zelda map and I saw like a chess game mixed with like Link and there's been so many of these remixes.

10:48Josh People are jailbreaking PS5s now like on a regular basis. You can play any game you want for free and i was just telling ejes before i started this that i was recording a video um was getting ready to publish it and i had the the model edit the video for me overnight generate the animations make the cuts do the sound design and it's like the progress that we've had from episode one to now has been staggering and i think we could both agree that the rate of progress is still that vertical curve so i don't know what the hell is gonna happen the next few months but like dude it's gonna be busy like you might need six seven eight nine ten episodes a week to cover all this

11:22Ejaaz Stuff or maybe i just need six seven eight nine ten versions of me to cover all of this and people can guess kind of like what the ai generated version of it because the video models are also getting super freaky.

11:32Josh Did you see the new 11

11:33Ejaaz Labs i don't know whether it was the 11 labs thing but it was this product from tavis did you see this where it's like oh no a zoom call okay so there's this video of this guy sitting down and he's having a zoom call with one of his colleagues and they're talking about how they should like release like the announcement of their product and she just goes, well maybe we should just record us speaking as like the video oh my god yes i saw this and then he goes yes do you think people will understand that you're ai and she goes, it doesn't matter if they do or they don't like that's just and she had the thickest scottish accent ever and her facial expressions were like very human-like and she could see everything he could see so,

12:14Ejaaz the joke i guess here is that like ai has accelerated so quickly since we started the show i distinctly remember josh doing an entire episode i don't know if you remember this. Comparing the personality of how the different models sounded. Do you remember that? Where like Grok, the first version of Grok was basically like extremely brash. And then you had GPT-4-0, extremely sycophantic, agreeing with everything and we couldn't stand the thing.

12:41Ejaaz And then we had Claude that was just like, just starting their ascent to fame at that point where it was like, oh, this sounds actually smart and very reasonable. And we should start using this model more. And I remember that resurgence fast forward to today where now i am kind of using these models in an increasing amount of tasks and just surface area of my life josh like, recently um you asked me what i got excited about i've been obsessed with muse meta's new personal super intelligence when.

13:12Josh It came out i was like why can we not film an episode about this immediately

13:15Ejaaz It's so sick it's.

13:17Josh They beat johnny i have an open hair out of the punch they got the device out

13:20Ejaaz How did zuck do that well i I guess, like, Zuck has built one of, like, the largest, most successful social media suite of products ever, right? Instagram, WhatsApp, Facebook, yada, yada. And so he has all this data as to, like, you know, how people act, what they want to buy, and he can help bridge that gap between them.

13:37Ejaaz So using Muse, guys, if you haven't used this, and maybe we should make, like, an entire episode about this as kind of, like, one of our comeback episodes, but it's, like, it is so good and easy to use. And the greatest part about this is there's so much competition popping up now. You've got OpenAI last week releasing their version of this called Dots.

13:55Ejaaz You've got Grok from Elon Musk, GrokBots, working more on like the... Knowledge work side of things but this era of personal agents is something that i'm very excited about because sometimes the model releases are now happening so frequently that i don't know about you josh especially as you're working at anthropic but like you kind of lose track of all the updates and like there's so many things going on at once and you don't quite know what model to use and when it's materially good for you and these personal agents kind of act as the new medium the new layer honestly feels like javas dude i was playing around or rather i was watching demos of, OpenAI's new ultra mode or ultra fast mode where it spits out like 300 tokens per second.

14:36Josh And so, X the cost.

14:38Ejaaz Dude, yeah, 500 bucks because thank you, Jane Street, for dragging up the prices. But they just like, the demo was of this guy not touching a single keyboard and just kind of talking to his AI agent. And when he would ask for a product, it would just appear in milliseconds in front of him. So I just, when I compare this to episode one, I'm just like, we have come so far. You and I have learned so much. And I honestly don't know where all of this goes. It's just crazy.

15:05Josh It probably just goes faster. I remember like the first time I was ever on Bankless, I spent so many hours trying to figure out like the best intro. And the intro was just like everything around us. It was a Steve Jobs quote, actually, which was like everything around us is made up of people no smarter than us.

15:20Josh What happens when they are smarter than us? And we are like right on the cusp of that reality happening. And i believe the downstream effects of intelligence smarter than we are is like still near incomprehensible in terms of how it plays out but i think there is a high level of certainty that it's here and if it's not here it is like very imminent and it is happening this year um or next year and it's really remarkable just to see the acceleration of progress and to your point it's like i think the average model launch the the time was like weeks last year and now we're down to like 10 days or something like that and i'm sure that's just going to compress i'm really excited about the personal agent era i think having a personal assistant

16:05Josh giving it a hardware embodiment whether it be through musa's device the open ai device that we're getting later this year that like dude whenever that happens we need we got to chat like when we finally solve

16:15Ejaaz This let's go we've.

16:18Josh Got to chat about that one because like oh man that's coming And it's this whole new paradigm where it's like this weird asymmetry, right? It's like there's been remarkable amounts of acceleration on the frontier, but then there has been a much more limited amount of, I guess, absorption from the general public where there are more users for ChatGPT today than there were last year, but not by the amount in which the intelligence has improved.

16:42Josh So I think that we're at this now with this weird place where the rate of acceleration increases, but the rate of adoption is still a lagging metric. And i think like one of the most important problems is solving that lagging metric and that's done by all the people watching the show you got to tell your friends about what's going on how to use it how you use ai like what are you using your personal assistant for your grok bot your your dot from open ai whatever it may be um i think that's like a really important paradigm shift and then the sheer amount of intelligence man science biology if you could break down those things into quantifiable math like math seems close to solved right it's like we're solving all these impossible millennium problems

17:19Josh um that probably creates a really interesting place in the next 12 months where it's like wow what if you can actually solve biology by breaking it down to numbers and then figuring it out using large language models like that seems kind of cool there's just so much stuff that's going to happen and it feels like this the stake not the stakes but like the importance of it gets larger it's like oh my god not only can it write your essays and like do your work but also it could save your life and i think i'm excited for like that jump to Oh, I don't want to use AI. It's scary to, oh my God, AI created this thing that saved my life.

17:53Josh And that's like a really cool thing. So I'm hopeful that we get that next year. And like, therefore we get a sentiment shift around AI as a whole, which is generally been mixed as we've done this thing. In fact, I will say you just, when we started, people were a lot more favorable towards it than they are today. So I think there has been this like backwards momentum that hopefully will shift forward sometime soon.

18:13Ejaaz Yeah, you're right. There's, there's been this sort of like doomerism that has taken over especially with like all the frontier labs calling to kind of like slow things down with all these like crazy ai agent hacks but i think very little time is spent on pushing out all the positive advances that we're making to your point i do think, the gap between what's happening on the bleeding edge of the frontier like for example what's happening anthropic opening and all these frontier labs versus what the majority 99.9% of people actually understand is widening.

18:46Ejaaz It hasn't gotten any closer. And when I think back to starting this show, that was kind of the reason why we started it. Because you and I were trying to figure all of this out. We were trying to unpack it ourselves. We were looking for feedback. We were looking for an audience to kind of like give us that feedback. So we were like, let's just film this show.

19:02Ejaaz And that's the kind of like full intent of this show going forwards as well. It's like kind of like trying to unpack the craziness that's going on. Stuff that I'm excited about is, well, as a former biologist, I will say on your point around moving from this world of software and just chatbots to, physical wetware. And I know Anthropic is actually, you know, working on like a biology lab that has advancements by robotics and, you know, you can plug in cord and you can run a bunch of experiments physically, autonomously.

19:30Ejaaz I know it's in those early stages. Like seeing more of that, like Demis Fasibis is kind of like stepped down from his chief of AI role at Google and is working on the same thing at, what is the name of his lab? Isometric Labs or something like that?

19:42Josh That sounds right.

19:43Ejaaz Yeah, just seeing that come into real life, especially with robotics, is going to be such a major trend and theme of 2027, in my opinion. But there's also a case around fear, like people are worried that we are accelerating too fast, and we need to build this in as constructive a manner as we can. So the same tools that can be used to build all this amazing innovation, solve math, solve physics, and build the cure for cancer can't also be used for more malicious types of stuff.

20:14Ejaaz And I think it's a very reasonable shout. And I think for those folks who are worried about that, you have a right to be worried about those things. But I guess the case that you and I have always tried to make on the show is that it is way more optimistic than mainstream headlines make it out to be.

20:28Ejaaz And it's our kind of like goal to kind of like, you know, I guess, explain why that's the case. I'm excited about the robotics stuff, dude. I was looking at, what was it? There was an announcement from Brett Adcock. So he runs FIGA, which is the US robotics lab, one of the leading robotics labs here in the US.

20:47Ejaaz And they're announcing like their new personal agent called Hark. I was, I got access to it. I was playing around with it last night. It's pretty cool. But like, I don't know when this episode releases. Hopefully it's out by then. I think it's releasing today or yesterday, depending on when you hit this episode.

21:01Ejaaz Like we see hardware and software kind of like really merging together. We see models iteratively being produced faster and faster. Dude, the compute capex spend, do you remember like our first episode about this where we were like, these billions and billions of dollars is a big number.

21:19Josh Remember when it was billions?

21:20Ejaaz Remember when it was billions? And then we have.

21:23Josh Like kind of

21:23Ejaaz These leaks, rumors, and like actual real figures from some of the biggest companies in the world. I think between Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, and Oracle combined, they're spending upwards of $800 billion just next year. Over the next 12 months, we see the price of memory still skyrocketing, even though the last time we spoke about it was about a month and a half ago, and we were like, oh, this might be the top.

21:46Ejaaz Prices are still going up. Demand is still soaring. AMD CPUs with this new AI agent stuff is crazy. It's hard to get my head around it because every time I think I'm being honestly a little too optimistic about this stuff, and I'm trying to ground myself, I'm like, but the numbers are telling me a completely different story.

22:03Ejaaz I don't know about, as you can tell.

22:05Josh It's not driven by debt. It's driven by revenue. And I think that's a big difference. And it's driven by like real value that's being delivered to the world. And like to your point about people disliking AI, I think like one of the most compelling arguments for it is that like almost all the problems that we face today are matters or like are downstream of a lack of intelligence or a lack of understanding.

22:27Josh Like the reason why we get unhealthy is because we don't understand what makes us unhealthy. The reason why we can't build amazing structures and buildings and infrastructure quickly is because we don't have the materials, we don't have the manufacturing. It's all kind of downstream of increased knowledge. And as we as a society have gotten smarter historically, we have unlocked new technology like the internet, also like the nuclear weapon.

22:49Josh Both of those things are good and bad. They have both upside and downside, but the net net of all of this technology, technological progress is that the quality of life of the average person is far better today than it was for the wealthiest person in the world, even a hundred years ago. And I see no reason in which that should change. In fact, it should accelerate even more so in terms of volatility. Sure, because there's a lot of uncertainty.

23:12Josh There's a lot of change. Change is difficult to manage. But on the other side of that, it's, well, now we have intelligence that not only could we figure out, but we could use this artificial version that's smarter than us, that could think for Millennium worth of time in like a couple of days to solve these problems that we could then take and use to improve our life so i think that's a really cool really exciting thing to think about is like every problem is downstream of a lack of intelligence we are now able to generate intelligence at the cost per per watt per like ray of sunshine on the planet we can convert that ray of sunshine into thought and like that's such a brilliant thing and i think

23:50Josh the back half what comes on the the backside of that it's just this like unbelievable new future that does things that like we can't even imagine and this is the early stages it's like i have to keep reminding myself how fast this has gone this still is like day one it's like oh remember the internet when you had like dial up connection and you had to like type onto like a message board and it was just text and then you got video and it's like this feels like that time and there's so many downstream effects this is a wave that is never gonna end there's there's like only ever gonna be a need to record more of these episodes because there's just going to be so much stuff happening.

24:22Josh And I think like it's there's it's very easy to have a pessimistic view and to join these groups of people to feel as if you are Part of something special but i think the more interesting place to be is joining the groups who are focused on making the change happen so like you don't need to sit there and yell on the internet you can go and like get in the arena and do the thing and i find that once you start doing the thing it's like people start to realize like oh my god wait this is actually pretty amazing um and this is unbelievable technology and this is a really exciting future man it's just gonna to get crazier it's like so fast the the curve is straight vertical and it shows no signs of slowing down

25:03Josh and my god what a fun journey it's been and like what a crazy journey it's going to continue to be over the next few like days weeks months year like it doesn't stop and oh it just gets me really excited for for the future and all the cool stuff that's coming from it

25:18Ejaaz I saw this crazy stat from i think it was the a16z team two days ago where um, they talked about like ai penetration across like the entirety of the US or US households in general. And the number was like 2% in terms of like power users that had used AI chatbots beyond just like an average Google search.

25:36Ejaaz And honestly, it's something that I believe when you kind of like step out of like the Twitter bubble. And when you speak to people that are kind of like just doing kind of normal nine to five jobs, they've heard of the AI thing, but they have by no means kind of like downloaded or use an open source model or used one of these personal agents or understood like what you could potentially use these different tools for beyond just kind of like a chatbot.

26:00Ejaaz And that just gives me so much hope towards... Productivity of humanity and where we're kind of like moving towards in terms of like, inventing brand new things like when i think back to kind of like history in general, the craziest or the hardest challenge that humanity has always faced is, how do we invent a solution towards some kind of a problem and to your earlier point with ai the idea here is is you can just kind of apply it blanket to anything and every kind of problem and whether it's physical or software it will eventually be able to figure it out.

26:33Ejaaz About six months ago, that was crazy for anyone to kind of like conceive of, bar maybe like a couple thousand people in the world. And now you have an internal model that was trained for, I think it was 11 days at OpenAI, that has reportedly solved hundreds and hundreds of open standard math problems.

26:51Ejaaz And now mathematicians are kind of scratching their heads thinking, Okay, one, how do we feel about this? Because we've just dedicated our entire lives to figuring this out. Number two, how do we understand what the solutions are? Josh, I don't know if you, remember we covered the whole Navier-Stokes thing like back in the day, right? Back in the day, it was like three weeks ago.

27:09Josh A month ago.

27:10Ejaaz Navier-Stokes was like this millennium problem. There's like seven of them. And if you solve it, you get like a million dollars. OpenAI figured it out with, you know, one of their internal models. Mathematicians still haven't been able to go through the solution that they created, that the model created, because it's so hard for them to kind of wrap their heads around. So it's like this weird thing where it's like, okay, maybe the humans don't check the work of the AI. Maybe it's another AI.

27:32Ejaaz And I think the fear that comes from that is like, well, AI is just going to automate a bunch of our cognitive load. And I think the important part about this technology is it should be used as a tool very much in the same way that the internet has benefited so many people by being used as a tool. If you use AI as kind of like a thought partner, as something to make you smarter and teach you different things, you could actually end up having the opposite effect where you just become a way smarter, way more productive version of yourself in a very short period of time.

28:00Ejaaz And I hope that's what kind of like the show and the stuff that we talk about inspires. That's what inspires me, at least. I know that's what inspires you, Josh. So yeah, I think that's basically it. Is there anything.

28:10Josh Else to catch folks up on? I mean, yeah, it's just like AI, AI is a means to asking better questions. And right now it's solving our existing questions. But man, how cool is it going to be when it starts to ask more interesting questions that we can't comprehend, that unlock all the secrets of our universe it seems like a reality that's coming i read a lot of sci-fi which helps kind of synthesize what this is like asimov has the last question which i think it's a short story everyone should go read and it's about the idea of asking better questions until eventually the world just reaches the heat death of the universe and like everything is a form of intelligence there are two camps you can choose to be the pessimist

28:44Josh you can choose to be part of belonging of like this like armchair critic or you can choose to like take the more noble side, I think, and fight the good fight and see how this can actually change the world for the better. And that's what I would encourage everyone to do. I did want to leave with some thank yous because they are in order. This has been one hell of a journey.

29:02Josh I first, Ejaz, co-host number one right here, could not have done this, all these episodes without you. So that like, oh my God, what a run it's been, what a run it will be. I'm so excited to continue to do this, to continue to hang out. We're still good, everyone. We live right next to each other we're neighbors he can't even if he wants to love you too man for better or worse we're doing the damn thing you broke my house

29:23Ejaaz Yeah yeah we're good.

29:25Josh Yeah and like to luke the producer who made all these episodes possible that dude edited so many episodes he could probably do it with his eyes closed he is the reason why we look so good on camera the reason why we say things that make sense he is the like the reference check for all the crazy ideas that happen in our head it's like no you cannot do this yes you should do this and it's oftentimes right and i trust him with deciding the topics for so many of these episodes.

29:48Josh So many are gaveled by him. We like, Edith and I will both have an idea. Luke's like, we should do this one. We're like, you know what? I think you're right. He's like totally pivotal. We'll still continue to be involved and we'll still, you'll see his like hand pushing on this. There'll be a lot of similar themes and that'll be Luke in the background to Ryan and David, the bankless guys.

30:05Josh They're the reason why this happened in the first place, particularly David, who took the bet to say like, hey, do you want to do this podcast thing? Like, I think you're pretty good at it. I think we can make something special. He believed in our ability to make this podcast and he was right. And I feel so much just like eternally kind of grateful for, for him, for believing in us, for allowing this to exist, for creating this entity that we now call like limitless and the show that we have and without his support throughout, like overwhelming levels of support, even against my resistance against it was like so critical. It's making this happen.

30:38Josh And then one, one final shout out, which I have to make because we've published 234 episodes. And that is a tremendous amount of listening. And I don't know if anyone has listened to every single one, ourselves included, except for one person. My dad has listened to 234 of these episodes, every single word of every single one,

31:00Ejaaz Which is just like this.

31:02Josh Unbelievable feat and certainly supporter number one. So thank you for listening to all these episodes and yeah it's just the last one i guess is the people it's all the people that have been here for like an eternity for supporting us for making this happen for giving us the platform to be able to talk about this cool stuff every single day and you just like you mentioned this is not the end this is the beginning of a new era and i'm so excited for what that new era holds because if you thought the last 16 17 months were crazy like oh buddy buckle up for the next one so for all the people who have been here commenting every single episode. You show up every single day, four days a week, soon to be five days a week, and watch these episodes, engage with us,

31:44Josh follow along with us. Like, oh my God, a tremendous amount of gratitude for all of you. One of the things that we've been in awe about for so long is just the quality of our comment section. Ejaz, we talk about this every day. We have the most thoughtful and interesting and productive comment section, I think, on the whole internet. I've been doing the same thing for a while. We have

32:03Ejaaz The best side of YouTube by far i don't know how you guys found us but thank you.

32:08Josh So like seriously from the bottom of my heart thank you for making it exciting for us there's a world in which we get the doomer people in the comments and they hate everything and it just becomes this hard thing to do but it's so motivating waking up and seeing the support every day and that has been so critically important to to making this into the thing that it is today and that is that is the the thanks i feel really just like grateful for the run, excited for where it goes next. And...

32:35Josh Man, what a freaking journey, dude. It's been, it's been like absolutely insane.

32:39Ejaaz It's amazing. And I'm going to miss you now. That's like, there's no other way to put it. We are going to miss you, but you're always welcome back to the show whenever you want to come in and be our armchair expert. And let us know about, you know, future model releases that we can break maybe before anything comes out.

32:56Ejaaz But, you know, it's, I'm excited about this new version of the show. And I'm excited to most importantly, keep bringing new folks content. It has killed me it has killed us not being able to put out an episode for so long, but we're back baby and hopefully you enjoy this new version of the show and you keep giving us feedback as has been so constructive if not just thankful in the comments section please keep liking if you aren't subscribed please subscribe turn on notifications that helps us out massively we are still on all the same channels that you are typically used to, if you are not subscribed or giving us a rating on Spotify, Apple Music or wherever you listen, please do so as well most importantly, if you like our content if

33:40Ejaaz you've been OG listeners of the show let us know in the comments Josh, you just mentioned, there are probably some people that have listened to almost all or most of our episodes we want to hear from you guys, we want to give you guys a shout out because we read every single comment, we love you guys, we wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for you guys and it's going to be the exact same case as we push forwards into the new frontier.

34:03Ejaaz Of this show going forwards thank you guys so much for listening.

34:06Josh And yeah and i got to tell people where where to find us also so like please i'm not disappearing off the face the internet here handle right here at josh gale you can go follow for personal stuff we'll be showing up on the claude youtube channel ejes you have a gazillion followers on x you probably post like 12 times a day so that would be his handle that's where you can go find out about that and then these channels of course will begin to get active again i believe ejes you've been recording some episodes for the yahoo channel it's like kind of figuring out where all these things are going they'll

34:36Ejaaz All live here just to be clear they'll all live here yeah so.

34:39Josh You don't have to go anywhere else for that but yeah i think that's the update thank you all so much for watching thank you all so much for being here along this journey and we'll see you soon