Exit the Old You: Biblical Healing, Mindset Mastery & AI Health Revolution w/ Rob Rene

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1:47 From visionary leaders to trailblazing creatives, we uncover the mindset, strategy, and grit behind greatness. Whether it's business, culture, or personal growth, we ask the real questions. This isn't just conversation, it's transformation. The Kingdom's podcast, Your next breakthrough starts here. Music licencing reimagined we are live ladies and gentlemen, you once again welcome to the King James podcast and today I've got what be fighting out of Dallas TX Rob Exodus strong faith hero Renee how are you Rob this is this is a soldier of God.

2:33 Amen. Hey man, I'm so excited to be here. I am excited, I'm pumped and of course I'm gassed beyond what gasoline can give you. You know, I need to be paying gas taxes right now because I am absolutely pumped for this one. So you once again welcome. And of course, the audience, guys, you're in for they, they only say you're in for a rude awakening.

3:03 But what's, what's the opposite of rude? Amazing. You're in for, you're in for an amazing awakening. Let's let's let's go right to the introduction of the guests, right. So today's conversation is about transformation. It's real, it's roar and it's rooted in something deeper than quick fixes. And my guest started as a high level athlete, survived a near fatal accident, climbed to the corporate ladder, and then walked away from meat, all after uncovering what he believes is widespread deception in mainstream health. He didn't just pivot, he was reborn. Combining 2000 years of biblical healing wisdom with cutting edge signs like molecular, molecular, hydrogen and frequency medicine, he now helps people exit the old

3:55 you physically, mentally and spiritually. This is Rob Renee of Exodus Strong, the voice behind the I am Pain Free movement. If you've ever felt betrayed by the system, stuck in pain, or disconnected from purpose, lean in that this episode could be the beginning of your own Exodus. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Rob Renee. What a what a great intro.

4:25 I super appreciate it. Well, well done. Yeah, this is going to be a lot of fun. Hopefully people are going to get a lot of value out of this conversation because I'm here to help people in a in a dramatic way. So let's do it. Yeah, you're, you're very much welcome. You are here to help people. You were born to help people.

4:42 And there's something I love to tell people. Help me to help you. So that is why the best, best strategy in business is win, win. You know, if I win and you win, it means you're helping me. That's right. To help you. Let's let's, let's go back to the beginning, right? All right. Take us back to that accident in Utah. Like what happened and what was the emotional and spiritual fallout like for you?

5:14 Yeah, that was a, a crazy experience just because I, I, you know, grew up as an athlete, right? I ended up being a, a runner that was kind of my specialty. I, I loved running. It was much better at running than any other sport and just God gave me his natural talent to run. But I also read a book that was important to taught me about nutrition, how nutrition really fuels the body. So I use that as a, as a tool by running that my, most of my competition was eating, you know, hot dogs and pizza. And I'm, I'm feeling my body correctly and I always had a good finish at the end.

5:45 And it got me full ride running scholarship to Division One school. And I was on my way to be a professional runner. That's what I had thought. And I just won an international race where I beat the best runners from 5 different countries. And I was just super excited. I'm like, OK, I'm, I'm on my way. I wanted to make the US Olympic team, which is coming up in another year.

6:05 And I was out on a train run in Utah's went really snowy and cold and, and the roads were covered with the with the snow and we're out on a 10 mile run. So we're bundled up and hat on and out running and all of a sudden my friend yells my name and I turn around and just see this truck coming and like had nothing. I couldn't, didn't have time to jump out of the way like my friend did.

6:27 And I said, I'm going to get hit and going to get hit. And this truck hit me right in the hip and then threw me, you know, 36 feet and boom, I landed on my face and it knocked me out. I'm literally here on this earth for a reason, because I should have died that day. I had a clogged throat from the blood that while I was laying on the ground unconscious that my, my throat was clogged.

6:52 So if it wasn't for my friend to save my life that day by unclogging my throat, I would have perished that particular day. And you know, we, we can Fast forward to two weeks ago and I'll tell you another crazy story, but back-to-back to this one. It was like, man, it's so devastating because that was my whole life, right? My life had been for 10 years.

7:11 I was training to be a professional runner and boom, immediately that my life had changed. Running was no longer a, a, an option. And so that became really tough, really tough mentally, physically, spiritually, everything. I went through a really difficult period of time on what what am I supposed to do now? Thank goodness I had a brother who was a mentor of mine. I think you know, in business is so important to have mentors and and.

7:38 Advisors and. Multiple advisors, right? And you, you know that so well, right And so, you know, I, I did that in my, my work of life. I'm like, OK, my, I had that mentor and my brother helped me understand that. I thank goodness I had a good education. So when I was, even though I was a good runner, I did well in school too. So I fell back on my schooling.

8:02 I got into my college degree and I go on into the corporate world. And then I did what the corporate, you know what the world tells you to do, right? The world, the world tells you to go, go to college, go get a job at a large corporation. You know, this is back in my day, right? This is, this is back 1520 years ago. And it was like, OK, you need to have a, a wife and three children and you need to have a house with a white picket fence. And you know, you need to have a dog and you need to, you need to play video games, you need to watch sports. And that's what the world told me to do. And I was good at all of that, right? I was good at drinking.

8:36 You know, I drink, drink often. And I partied with my friends and I, I was really successful at my corporate sales job, but it was just not very not fulfilling for a long time. I'm really sad that I did that for so long of my life that I, that I did what the world told me to do rather than what the Lord tells me to do. And then the pandemic hit and that's what just transitioned my entire life.

8:59 So I call it the second truck that hit me because I had the same impact, right? That first truck was, was I was on my way to be a professor runner, right? Yeah. And that was a physical confrontation with A4 by 4 vehicle that almost ended my life. The second truck, it was the pandemic. And that reason why it was so impactful to my life was I'd lot, I'd been a corporate sales executive for a really long time.

9:24 And when the pandemic hit, the I couldn't travel. I was in the middle of Oregon, which is not a big populated place. And they downsized the sales force and I was part of that downsizing. And I'm like, OK, yeah, I was a Portlander, right? I was actually over in Bend, OR at the time, which is in Central Oregon. Beautiful place to live and wonderful, wonderful place, but not there's not a lot of large corporations there that are need enterprise software, which is what my specialty was. So I'd lost my job and it was like, Oh my gosh, this is the first time in my life that I had had time to do research. And so I taught myself how to research. And when I one of those things I loved, I loved health, right, Being a runner when I was young

10:11 and I was worried about my family. Like everybody was like, how do you stay healthy during this COVID arena? And I just started digging in a research and one, I remember the one doctor that really woke me up because this one doctor was getting vilified for trying to help people. He was recommending vitamin D to help people. And I'm like, OK, they're suing this doctor. You know, the government was suing this doctor for multiple billions of dollars with a beat.

10:39 And I was like, Oh my gosh, that's a lot of money, right? What is going on? Why are they, Why are they? This guy must be horrible, right? So and then what vitamin DI thought vitamin D was like from the sun? Why? Why would that be bad? So I started researching vitamin D, you know, did all the research.

10:53 I'm like, OK, vitamin D is like amazing. It's not not bad for you at all. So that can't be it. So then maybe this doctor is a really bad dude, right? What's what's in the closet? Why are they are they going after this doctor? And I want I did as much research as I could find. I couldn't find anything wrong with the doctor. He's a holistic practitioner.

11:14 He's helping people for his entire life. And he's just he's talking about how vitamin D could potentially help you with with the COVID. So I'm like, why is that bad? And then I started saying, why would they vilify him? Why would they sue him? And then that's when I uncovered the craziness about our healthcare system is it's all about money and it's not about helping people at the at the base of it, it's all about greed and cash.

11:41 And they wanted to shut this guy up because he was talking about a potential solution that might help people. And they wanted people to not do that. They wanted people to do take the shots and do the things and it became one of those those areas when I started researching, it was like really pissed me off, but like there.

12:00 Were a lot of conspiracy theories around? Yeah, there were a lot, right. But what was fun for me is that research is like, OK, so I uncovered in the United States, our, our system was kind of taken over in the early 1900s and our, our, the Rockefellers did this report called the Flexner Report. And that Flexner report was they used it in a nefarious way to to vilify all the holistic practitioners and then they used it to create these medical schools that were only teaching pharmaceutical based medication.

12:37 So and you couldn't get a job as a doctor at that time if you didn't go through their medical school. So you had to be, in order to practise medicine, you had to go through their medical schools and their their medical schools only taught medicine based upon the pharmaceutical drugs. Yeah. So what was that?

12:59 I said Orthodox medicine. Yeah, so they, they would only only do pill based medicine, right. And it was medicine that they could patent. So that's why that's why they did it because they couldn't patent how natural health nutrients like you, the stuff that comes from the Bible, the stuff I'm so passionate about now is they you you couldn't patent that.

13:21 So they took over the healthcare system in the United States and then, you know, now it's really evident, you know, people call it big Pharma and they call it all sorts of different things. I call it the, you know, the medical medical deception, you know, because it's just that they, they've really done a great job of really deceiving people and United States has spends more money on healthcare than any country in the world.

13:44 And we have one of the we have one of the worst healthcare systems in the world, right? We are you look at all the statistics and we're like at the bottom of the barrel. So it's just obviously we're not doing it correctly and we're help. We're just it's all about the farm. And then I started understanding how pharmaceutical companies, they really control a lot of our world today. They control a lot of the media.

14:09 They control a lot of the. You read my mind. You read my mind. I'm like the controlled narratives that that's what, that's the way I put it, the controlled narratives, right? But you know, a quick backtrack to your origin story. It reminds me of something we say a lot in my home country. I'm from Nigeria originally.

14:30 I migrated to the United Kingdom, even London. We say God, sorry, man proposes, but God disposes. That's what we tend to say a lot in Nigeria. Shout out to the audience from Nigeria. They, they, they've contributed so much to this show. And of course, this show is, has consistently been amongst the top 200 shows on Apple podcasts in, in Nigeria.

14:58 So we talk about the conflict, the beliefs, the awakening, right? You have had a deep dive into medical and pharmaceutical systems. So what would you say that deep dive, that deep research has revealed and why has it ignited your mission that you are on today? Awesome question. Literally to me, I saw the deception and I saw the corruption that people are hiding things that are amazing for people. And so like that doctor, the first ones like they're, they're trying to shut him up to talk about vitamin D. So then I started looking at all different types of of solutions of like how can we help people, right? I initially wanted to just help my family, like I'm going to go create some solutions just going

15:46 to help my family. And so I started looking at that solution to help my family. And one of the things that I was going to create some supplements. That was my first thought. I was going to go find these natural solutions that help people. But then I got introduced to this gentleman who's working on frequencies and then I started, he had these little skin patches that had frequencies on them that you'd apply to your body.

16:08 And I'm like. Frequency patches. I have some of those. Yeah, you literally, we were talking before the show. You showed me some of those likes, but they're so weird. I'm like, OK, you're going to to put a patch, a sticker on your body. It's going to help you. I had no clue about how the body was made-up of energy. So I started doing.

16:28 I started doing researching, Yeah, this biohack, you know, it's like, Oh my gosh, the body is amazing. It's literally made-up of energy and, and even down to the cellular level, our, our body cells interact with each other via vibration and those vibrations give off a frequency. I'm like, oh, wow, I didn't know that.

16:47 I didn't. I thought frequency is a weird word, right? I'm like, what the heck is a frequency? But you know, frequencies aren't weird. There is cell phone you use uses a frequency. The radio you listen to, or at least back in my day, we'd have an actual radio, right? And then, you know, just sound and colour.

17:01 Those are frequencies. And so I'm not like, OK, so frequencies aren't weird. And then I fit, found out, did research on Doctor Emoto. Have you ever heard of Doctor Emoto? He's done some, he's done some really cool experiments in, he's a Japanese doctor and he did this, created this book called The Hidden Messages in Water, and he did these. Experiments and research on his.

17:25 It's so cool then. There there's some fun stuff that you can you can research on him. He did his whole body of work on how external components have a physical impact on something else. Like he did these water experiments, these beautiful water crystal on this picture. Do you How do you spell the name? Because the name sounds familiar to me, E. EMOTO Masir Amoto Masuru Amoto Dr. Yeah, I think I've heard of him.

17:53 And he's cool. He and one of the one of the experiments I like the best is his rice experiment. So he did this rice experiment for 30 days. He had these three jars of rice. And in the jars of rice, he had the same amount of water and the same amount of rice. And then he did this experiment where he would tell one jar of rice that he would love, I love you.

18:13 I love this jar of rice. And the second one, he'd say, I hate you. He would swear at it. He'd get mad at this second jar of rice. And then the third jar he would ignore, right? And so he literally did this for 30 straight days. And at the end of 30 days, you see the the three different specimens, It's amazing. The one that he shared love for and cared for. It was white and it looked like, you know, looked like murky rice water.

18:41 Whereas the one that he swore at and had bad intentions towards was disgustingly mouldy. It was just like what? And then you, the one that he ignored was almost as bad as the one that he was, was swearing at. And so it's crazy. And then I, I thought, oh, come on, that's can't happen. But then you go on YouTube and you see his experiments and people have replicated that experiment over and over and over.

19:06 So it's something that that was the first time in my life I understood that with that external emotions and external things can have a physical impact on something else. And that was amazing to me. I'm like what that I didn't understand either. So then when I learned how important frequencies are and that you can have, you know, physical changes in external things and learning how the mind works and and how this mind body spirit connection is so important. That was really eye opening to me. So we created a company called QE strong that we have these skin patches, these little little patches, right, that have a frequency on them and they help you with different problems.

19:49 So we have a a relief patch that helps you when you're you're having your back hurts and that type of thing. And then we have a energy 1. You know, we have all different types of solutions. But what got me so interested in now is like, Oh my gosh. My body spirit thing is so important. And after that, that second accident with the with COVID, the second truck wasn't really an accident, but that second truck that hit me, I really started my faith journey. I've been a Christian my entire life, but I'd never really done much with it.

20:21 I'd, I'd go to church on Sunday and I enjoyed the service, but then I didn't think about church. You know, as soon as the door hit me in the butt, you know, I would leave. I wouldn't think about church the the entire time until next Sunday, but what I started to do was read the Bible every day. What is so I?

20:37 I need to develop this approved. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I started developing this amazing relationship with God. I was like, I'd be instead of having a religion, I have a relationship now and this relationship is so powerful that I something I want everybody to understand that they can have that because that amazing. That's something that you just, it's indescribable, the feeling you have when you have a relationship with God and when you you have that.

21:02 I started listening to him and asking him what he wants me to do. And literally he's directing my path, which is so incredibly amazing. And he's helping me help people. That's what he has me on this mission on Earth is to do is, is, you know, he wants me to help the world. And so I'm creating solutions.

21:20 They're helping people. I did research on, on the Bible and there's like all these different herbs and superfoods in the Bible. I'm like praying to the Lord's like help me find a solution that no one's ever created that I can take to the world. And you know, I couldn't find anything. I found some amazing herbs and superfoods. There's there's a if someone wants to do some fun research, There's a, a balm of Gilead in the Bible that's mentioned. That's a healing balm.

21:45 And you know, man, if I could find the bomb of Gilead, you know it would be, it would be the most amazing thing ever, right? Anybody has any problems, I'd go slap some some Bomb of Gilead on them. They'd be. The bomb of Gilead I I use the tiger bomb you know from. I'm looking for that I hope I'm the first person that finds it but anyway I did find some amazing herbs and superfoods in the Bible and but I couldn't find the right combination. But what the Lord is so good.

22:15 He led me to this practitioner who is working had molecular hydrogen component that it's a capsule. When you stick it in your body, your body creates hydrogen. And when I started researching the health benefits of of hydrogen in the body, we took the seven best biblical herbs that I had been doing research on and combined it with the molecular hydrogen component to create this product called Exodus, right? So it's wow.

22:42 So sorry to interrupt you you you mentioned 7 biblical herbs. I'm very curious to know what those 7 herbs are. Yeah, so that's so important because they they really give you the things that your body's lacking. So the first two are or organic barley grass and organic wheat grass. Those are two components that people did give you nutrients. So most people these days are our food is our food supply is messed up and make people are eating out all the time and they're not fueling their body well. So organic barley grass and wheat grass give you the nutrients instead of drinking a green shake every day, grinding up all these things, you can just use the capsule that we've created with barley grass and

23:24 wheat grass. Those are the 1st 2:00. Then saffron is the most expensive element on earth. It's more expensive than gold, but saffron has a lot of health benefits and the one of them is stress relief. So a lot of people who are have anxiety and stress, you can use this saffron that's part of our product and just you feel good, you feel good, you don't feel anxious.

23:47 It really is a nice benefit. And then it goes on to the other aloe. Aloe is got hundreds of health benefits, lot of gut health Vera. Yeah. So it's got aloe Vera in in. Yeah. It's a leaf actually. Which is where the. Where the health? That has a cream, the the IT has like, I don't know, it's a watercolour cream in it. That's right.

24:13 You look at the actual leaf itself. It's green. Yeah, it's green. And you open it up and then it's got that. You know that. I don't know what to call it the juice. Mixer yeah, I don't know what yeah, exactly. And you can apply that topically to things, but we've we've taken that and put it in A to a capsule. So you get, I know it's really good for your stomach, really good for your health in in your gut health. So that's the that's the 4th 1.

24:39 So organic barley grass, organic wheat grass, saffron aloe. And then I have cumin. Cumin is really a good for inflammation. So it supports the inflammation within the body with my podcast called I am Pain free. Our podcast, I talk a lot to holistic practitioners and they they've mentioned that the your health starts in your gut.

25:00 So and inflammation is the source of all disease. So our product acumen is really good for that. But then also the last two are frankincense and myrrh, right? And meet people that have heard those terms mainly be from, from the Bible. Those are the two of the herbs that were gifts that were given to baby Jesus in the Bible.

25:21 But when you look at them from a from a health perspective, they also complement the cumin, so they help with the inflammation reduction as well. So you combine, then you look at molecular hydrogen and what it does for people and you add those 7 biblical ingredients and they all enhance the effectiveness of what molecular hydrogen does.

25:44 And that's, that's what I found so fascinating was molecular hydrogen. It's like, holy smokes, Hydrogen is like the base element that God made on this earth. I think it's the smallest element. You look at the periodic table, which if you go back. To hydrogen, hydrogen, lithium, berolium, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine, neon, sodium, potassium and calcium. Yeah.

26:09 That's amazing that's amazing so that hydrogen right is is a really important element. The cool thing there's been thousands of scientific research done on hydrogen and So what we our capsules do is it you put it into your body and when it interacts, it's a magnesium complex. So when it interacts with your stomach, your the fluid creates molecular hydrogen. So it's a patented component that is super cool. And so when your body assimilates that molecular hydrogen, it creates these little micro nail bubbles inside your bloodstream and it connects to the free radicals, which in the bloodstream free radicals are bad. Those are the things you want to get rid of. Those are cells that are dying

26:52 and, or just bad cells that shouldn't be there and it gets rid of them. So that's super cool. It's kind of like the garbage, you know, man, he gets rid of the bad stuff in your bloodstream. But then your mitochondrial process, which is the energy system within your body. The mitochondrial is what your, how your body produces energy. And so the hydrogen also helps the mitochondrial process work better.

27:17 So it helps get rid of the bad and helps the good do better. So it's like really, really healthy for you. And so you combine those 7 biblical herbs that give you energy for the day, give you the nutrients you need, and then you combine it with reducing, you know, maybe some inflammation and, and helping with the stress response that this, this product. And then you add what molecular hydrogen does in the body. And there's really no other product on earth like this product.

27:44 It's a phenomenal we have this mind body spirit connection that we think is very, very important. And remember, because I was doing all that research on frequency medicine and how important your mind is. And then obviously now my relationship with God. I really believe in this there there's a spirit element to our world. The mind, body spirit thing that a lot of people talk about is, is real in my mind.

28:08 And we, we create a prayer guide that goes with every single product. And that it's really because we want you to, to state the intention we want. And a lot of people in the business world, you can, you can use your mind and you can, you can say, I'm going to verbally talk about my intention. I'm going to create a business that does XY and Z. And if you state those intentions and you write your permission down, there's really a lot of power in that, and a lot of.

28:33 Understand that. Right, Yeah, you can manifest it. But with what I do is I create this intention that is you're going to verbalise with your mouth. And then we have a Bible verse, right, That that's related to health and then we want you to actually say a prayer. So you're combining your intention, the Bible verse and the prayer together.

28:51 And that that combination really. And the Bible tells us there's power in the tongue, so you need to verbalise it out loud, right? And so if you verbalise it out loud, you have the right intentions and your mind is saying I am going to be healed. I am going to be, well, you're, you can actually make that happen because your mind is so powerful. It can literally have an effect.

29:12 Your mind, it can without any drugs, it can have an physical effect on your body. So we combine the power of your mind, the power of the Holy Spirit, and the power of the the capsule inside your body to help you with your health. And it's really the first company I've ever seen that's doing doing that. And it's having a dramatic effect on people. The people who are using our product love it. It's really helping them in a dramatic way. I had a, a heart condition called bradycardia there. My heart was just beating really slow. And it had been for decades.

29:42 So my heart rate was in the 30s, which is really, really low. And so I in the afternoon, I would always have to take a nap. And it really made me mad. So I'm like, come on, you know, I don't, I shouldn't have to take a nap because I got tired. I did. My body just didn't have enough oxygen. So I used Exodus and all of a sudden I have this natural energy that I don't need that I used to have to go get an extra, an extra four shot latte.

30:08 You know, I loved lattes. I'd take one in the morning and in the afternoon about 2:00 if I didn't have my latte I would take. I would have to take a nap. But yes, I instead. Of. Caffeinate myself right? Just get all the caffeine and then later on in the evening, I would crash because I had all this caffeine. But now that I take Exodus, this is these capsules are just so amazing because it just it gives me those nutrients that I mentioned and then clears out my my bloodstream and gives me this natural energy that I don't feel tired. It's just so cool.

30:42 It's just I get this nice sustained energy. I don't get this high and low and I never get this drop in energy. So it's just really fun to to talk to people about health and say, Hey, I, I want to help you not only with being successful and whatever you're trying to accomplish, right? Because you need to be healthy in order to do whatever you're doing.

31:01 Yeah, if you don't have your health, you can't do your, you can't do your job, right. If you are in business and you have a mission to grind and to execute right you you need. Yeah. Yeah, literally if in order to do that, you need to be well. And so that's my mission, right. You're, you're on the, the outer and I'm on the beginning.

31:23 And I'm saying, Hey, you got to take care of your body, right? Take care of your body. Let's get your body healthy. And then guess what? Then when your body's healthy, you can go make an impact on this world, right? And then I want to help people with their faith. If they're interested, right? Or let you know you're going to go help them with their business.

31:39 I'm going to help them with their faith. You're helping with their business. Collaboration. We're going to we're going to grind and execute together, right? We're going to we're going to help people holistically from from beginning to end. So that that's my mission is I believe that honestly to God, I believe that he has me on this earth for a reason. 2 weeks ago is a perfect, perfect example of that. So if you want, I can go into that, that story, but that that's.

32:07 Definitely that there is a reason for the season. There's a reason for the season, but I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hold back on that because we need you to explain something burning for the audience, right? I need you to explain your concept of exit. The old you. What does that look like in a person's life?

32:30 Right? And of course, you talk about the mind, body and soul connection. So how to you exit the old you and yeah. All of all of us, Just. Like you. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. Yeah, it's simple, right? Literally, it's because you can exit the old you by making a difference and making a change. And that change can be as simple as realisation that, Hey, I do need to make a change.

32:57 I or I just not happy with the way things are going. And guess what, you're, you're. But God made you an incredible body. In fact, if you have, if you woke up today and you have breath in your lungs, guess what? God has a plan for your life. So you need to make an impact on this world because he has a plan for you. Just realise that he does have a plan for you. So then you're like, OK, if he has a plan for me, what is my plan?

33:21 And then you start trying to find out what that plan is. But do if you, if you're not well healthy, then you're not going to have the mind that's going to be effective to do what you need to do. And you're, you're going to sit on the couch, you're going to Netflix all day and you're not going to do anything right. Couch potatoes.

33:39 Yeah, it's exactly, it's just, but if you, if you realise that you have a mission, that God has given you a mission and you're like, you don't know what your mission is, let's go start trying to find that. But guess what? Let's start getting your body healthy so that then you can exit that old you and into the new you.

33:56 And when you enter into the new you, it's absolutely phenomenal because you have more energy, you start feeling better and you start looking for your mission and your, your passion. And then when you find that passion, you've exited the old you and you have a you have a mission to go impact the world for good, right? We can do, we can make such a huge difference in this world, every single one of us, if we just work on it and we look at, we try to find our passion.

34:23 And hey, maybe maybe your, you know, is to go create this amazing podcast that's going to be the top 1% of of podcast in in your. Category of the year. Yeah, that's what. That's amazing. Global top 3%. And yeah, we're heading for that top 1% before the end of 2025. And of course, I am manifesting it here, right here with you. We are on the exodus to global top 1%. And of course, Speaking of missions, right? When when God gives you a mission, he will give you a provision to actualize that mission. Wow.

35:01 And you know, Speaking of a mission, right? Are you actually had a new provision 2 weeks ago? Let's talk about that provision. That's right all right, so let's this this set this up a little bit is like this is important because I mentioned brave that bradycardia condition earlier that bradycardia, you know, in your heart you have this upper chamber and you have a bottom chamber and the upper chamber is where your heart additionally start the beat starts from my heart was fluttering so much that it never did the first beat. So there's a backup system in your heart that my body body was using.

35:36 So my body was using the backup and the backup is really slow. And but I operated that for a very long time and like 20 years or so. I operated that way. I remember when the doctor told me 20 years ago, So you can get a pacemaker now or you can just continue to live the way God, God made you. And down the road you can maybe look at something. So I didn't, I forgot about that. I literally had forgotten about it. So recently I went to go get a, a doctor, went to a doctor's visit and they just to get my blood work done. See how am, how am I doing with me? My supplements that I'm taking, Is that going to help me? And they're like, Oh my gosh, your heart rate is so low. Like, yeah, it's in the 30s.

36:14 And they're like, well, I don't, there's something wrong. And so they did an EKG on my heart and they were freaking out about my heart. And they like, you need to go see a cardiologist. I'm like, man, I I remember like. Speaking of heart rates. This happened. I'm checking my resting heart rate. What was your resting heart rate? Yeah, it was in the low 30s, like 32 was my my heart rate. So it was really low.

36:37 No ways. Yeah, she was freaking. Out. OK, now, now, now I'm afraid to call the I'm afraid to call me because it's more than double of of 30. So let's see. Yeah, double of 35. So do the math, yeah. Exactly. So it's like. Yeah, I'm on 70, yes, 70 right now. Most people are like that, right? What that's what your body's doing.

36:58 So mine was just operating really low. That's why I got that tired in the afternoon and there you go there you go. I love it. But the the crazy thing about this is you know, that doctor told me this is a year ago. The doctor told me you should went through all these tests. The cardiologist says you need a pacemaker. You're you're an anomaly, but you should get a pacemaker. And I'm like, yeah, I was like, I'm going to try this naturally. So for a year, I spent thousands of dollars on different holistic treatments and, and, and supplements and trying to figure out a way to fix that upper Chamber of my heart so it would start beating.

37:31 And then, you know, the story is a little long. I apologise, but this is, it's important because it's, it's a miracle. It literally is a miracle. I got, I, I got cancer diagnosed seven months ago. So after I tried to start fixing my, my heart, I got this cancer diagnosis called Melanoma. And, and I was like, they said I need to go get a removed. So I went to the surgeon.

37:56 He says, OK, in order to remove it, you need, we need to do surgery. So they do an EKG on my heart and they're like, we can't do surgery on you. Your heart's not beating, you know, it's too slow. If we put you under sedation, your heart's going to fail. So we can't, we can't do surgery. So I'm like, oh, well, crap. So they sent me to another cardiologist, second cardiologist right in the, in the last year, He says you need to get a pacemaker.

38:19 I'm like, ah, I don't want to do a pacemaker. And so I continue to try to do it on my own. My cancer spread and now I've got stage 3 three cancer, which is very dangerous. Melanoma is really, really a dangerous cancer because it can spread really, really quickly and you I I could be gone. A lot of people after it spreads, they only have a few months to live.

38:41 Yeah, I'm already 7-8 months into this. I'm going to win this battle. I know it because. God. God has a plan. For me, but the crazy thing about this is I said no even after that, that second one. And they did, they end up doing surgery on my ankle to get my original Melanoma spot removed. And that went OK. But then I started talking to my oncologist about this problem on my, in my groyne.

39:02 I've got a tumour and he's like, yeah, we might have to do surgery on that. And the only way we're going to do surgery is if your, your heart's better. So I had to go to 1/3 cardiologist and the third cardiologist says I need a pacemaker. So finally I said OK, OK, OK, I'm going to go. Get my pacemaker. So I go get my pacemaker, I'm laying on the the surgeon's table and lo and behold, when they hooked me all up my my backup, what had failed and my bottom Chamber of my heart was only thing that was beating and the bottom Chamber of her heart was really, really slow.

39:36 So my heart rate was 28 when I went into the surgery and on the on the table, my heart failed. So I'm literally my lifespan had gone from, you know, my entire life to sitting, not laying on that table and my heart finally gave out. But what a miracle that I'm laying in an operating table with heart specialist that we're going to insert a pacemaker for me to get my heart beating more often.

40:08 So they had a rush, a temporary one into my heart so my heart could even beat while they were trying to do the rest of the surgery. So then they did end up doing the surgery and they got my heart working again. And then? They backed off the pacemaker so it would try to get my heart to beat again and my heart wouldn't beat. So if it wasn't, if it wasn't for the pacemaker that's literally inside my body now, I would be be dead. So I think it, I mean, my, my opinion, I'm a Melanoma miracle. I've never would have gotten my heart fixed if I would not have gotten Melanoma.

40:45 And so I would have continued to go on this path to just, I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to fix my heart naturally. And I would have, I would have died. My heart, my heart literally stopped. And the only reason I went to get it fixed was because of my Melanoma diagnosis. So in my opinion, God saved my life by me getting a diagnosis of cancer.

41:06 And I went to, you know, now I have a, a new lease on life. I know, I know God has me here for a reason. There's no way that he saved, he saved me. I could have easily been, you know, I'm getting an upgrade. If I die, I'm getting an upgrade, right? I'm going to heaven. It's going to be amazing. But you know, he said, no, you're not done.

41:26 And so he has a mission for me here on earth. And so I'm passionate about that mission and I'm really going to help people with their health. I'm really going to help people with their faith. So I'm building this organisation that that is is amazing. We have lots of resources and free resources for people to find information about biohacking.

41:44 If you you want to understand how to make your body better, I'm going to give you all these resources that are ridiculously cool that are going to help you understand how to use red light therapy, how to use all these tools to make your, you know, do cold plunging. Why do you do cold plunge? I just did a cold plunge, you know, two hours ago, right?

42:01 It's so, so amazing for your health. So all these things, I'm the cold. Plunging. It's it's a scary proposition. Very, very scary. It is. I think the the closest I've had to call plunging is like alternating hot and like extreme cold water in the winter months, right? You start, yeah, sort of feels like cold plunging. Of course, when you you have that warm bath in winter months and you know, the water coming from the tap is like ice cold. I think there is some sort of health benefits to it, but I don't know, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a medical practitioner, right?

42:43 I guess we, we can pack that for, for, for later. But you know, Speaking of the organisation of the organisation, right? That's a, that there's a lot of censorship when it comes to natural health remedy, right? And it's actually a recurring theme in your own body of work. Who would you say is behind it? Why does it happen?

43:04 And of course, how does it affect everyday people trying to achieve Wellness? That's what I'm so excited about now and the, the at least in the United States, finally we have this Make America Healthy Again initiative, right. We've gotten people into into the White House who are are really invested in trying to help people.

43:23 So the big pharma thing is never going to go away because. My God, make America great again. Yeah. You're right, right, but the Maha one right. So Make America Healthy Again is, is an important initiative because people are making changes finally, but so the censorship isn't quite as bad as it used to be, but it's still there.

43:43 So I just, I want to create these resources that people just go find information, right about what if you want to go learn what, what are the benefits of Co plunging? Right? When, why would, why is that help you? That's going to be, there's going to be a Co plunge section within my site. He's like, Oh yeah, here it is. Here's the Co plunging.

43:59 Here's how you, you know, here's how people recommend. It's not me recommending. It's like, here's how the these amazing practitioners are recommending you do it. And here's the benefits you're going to get for doing it. But the kids are quite expensive that that drum. I don't know, it's quite expensive.

44:14 I don't think it's it's easily accessible or affordable to the everyday person. So I just tried to do my own improvisation. No, that's you know what, you know, it's so perfect is I love that because I like to tell people that there's five things you can do for free, right? They can just just start there. If you do these five things and you, you do, you're going to start your help journey and they're free. So do at least these.

44:39 And then when you do these five things and you start doing it consistently, you're going to be you're going to be hooked because you're going to start saying this is working. This is amazing. It's like they're simple. So let me run through them real quick. One is, is just hydration, right? Just getting the right button. Amount of water you need every day, right? You need.

44:58 Exactly you, you need double, you know, if you're, I weigh about 200 lbs, so I need about 100 ounces of water, right? So half an ounce for everybody kind of body weight you are. So just get that hydration super important. Your body is made-up of 60% water. Get enough water and try to do filtered water, right.

45:16 The the tap water is horrible, at least in the United States, right? There's there's fluorination in it and there's all sorts of crap inside your water. So get good water like you have a bottle that's filtered hopefully and then. Hopefully. Keywords, that's a key one. And then the second one is Sun, right, that vitamin D discussion, remember we talked.

45:40 About that. Get outside in the 1st 40I. Come from a country we had summer all year long. So I I love my son. I'm sorry. Exactly it's very, very important for your skin right there. You get the vitamin D in your body and it really, you know, charges your body. It's it's phenomenal. So that one's free, right?

45:59 You can go out and get that that fresh for the 1st 45 minutes of the day. It's called blue light and that blue light is very helpful. There's no UV rays. It's just very, very good light for you. And then I like to, when I go out and do my, my, my morning sun, I like to combine it with the other two that the other one is grounding. You take your socks and shoes off and get your feet on God's given earth, right?

46:21 And that grounding is really, really important. It discharges the negative energy in your body and recharges it with good energy. And it's, it's phenomenal. It really works. I, my wife used to give me such a hard time because I hate it. I, I have really sensitive feet, so I didn't like to take off my shoes, right?

46:37 I always wanted to have my shoes on. And then I started researching the benefits of grounding. I'm like, oh crap, I got to go do this. I can tell you a $5000 grounding mat and you can put it in your office and you can put your feet on that grounding mat and it will do the same thing. Why not why not just do it for free? Go outside your feet on God's given earth and it's going to do the same exact effect.

46:59 So so do that right? It's free. And then the the 4th 1 is just breathing techniques, right? There's breathing techniques that you can do with like you said. I, I would, I mentioned earlier, God gave you this breath, right? He that's literally the first thing he did to man is he breathed his breath into into Adam. That was the first human that he ever created. And so we have this breath from God. And if you you got and if you can do these breathing techniques, there's a specific way you can do it, like 7 or 8 minutes long and you breathe.

47:31 Breath work is actually very important. I have an episode on this podcast. Yeah, OK. Speaking about breath working stretches. It's perfect. With Cindy Hernandez. Yeah, that's awesome. So people go. Wim Hof is a very, very popular person who's who's got these things. They're just free. You can go research Wim Hof WIMHOFF, and he's got these techniques that are simple.

47:55 You just do that for 7 minutes and it will extend your life for seven years. So why not add another seven years to your life, right? And all you're doing is breathing like, you know, can you breathe, right? Everybody listen to this can breathe. It's just so if you do this structured way, it just gets all this oxygen inside your body. And it was like, what?

48:15 That's amazing since it's free. So there's four of them. And then the fifth one, it just just starts putting the right nutrients into your body, right. If you get the right nutrients in the body, God made his body so incredibly cool that if you give it the right nutrients, it will start healing itself.

48:31 And so just start being conscious and try to get closer to the farm as possible. Get the Whole Foods and eat real foods from from the farm as close as you can get. Yeah, don't eat all this processed food, this ultra processed food. This is bad for us. And it's doesn't give you the nutrients you need.

48:50 So anyway, that's my five thing man. Everybody can do those, right? Just start watching the the nutrients you eat. Get veg, fruit and vegetables and mainly, you know, vegetables and the the things that have nutrients or, you know, just just use Exodus, right? Exodus is going to give you a lot of the.

49:07 Nutrients you need right? You can do that well, Exodus will take you to the Genesis and lead you to the Revelation the. Old you right? Leading to the revelation of your health journey. That's right. Is he allergic to the promised land? Right. That's the whole idea. Out of Egypt, into the promised land.

49:30 Whoa, you. There. What I have a quick question. I have a quick question though, like you lot, you lot medical practitioners alternative. When I say medicine practitioners as well, I, I'm so sorry, no disrespect, but I, I feel like you lot don't place enough emphasis on exercise. You know, right, In terms of wholesome health and Wellness, you place a lot of emphasis on diet and nutrition. But I'd love for you to touch on the ultra important role of exercise.

50:08 And of course you've been an ex athlete. I think that should be very important to you. It's very, very, very important to be honest. So I like I, I actually should say that. I guess I'd just start saying that a 6th 1 because my my my fifth one used to be walking right because that and maybe I just need to transaction that in as please.

50:28 Please bring it The Sixth Sense so so that we can get to 7th heaven. Yeah, I need to have seven, right? I got to find 2. I got to find two more. So I guess I already found the 6th. So here the 6th is definitely walking, right? Walking is so. You know. You know the 7th 1. You know the 7th 1. I'm in what is it?

50:45 What's my 7th 1? It's money, It's money. There you go. But that's not free. You got to handle that, right? But you can manifest it, right? Yeah, well, you have money, you're happy, don't worry. You do those first six things and then you're going to be able to make money. And if you don't do those first six, then you're you're. Why leave seven extra years where you cannot spend 7 extra millions?

51:14 That's right, that's right. I love it so, but yeah, you know, I, I 100% agree that exercise is very, very, very important to your health. And, and I'm, I used to be a runner, right? And I used to hate when people called me a jogger because I'm like, I'm not a freaking jogger. I'm a runner, right? But now I'm a Walker, you know, it's even worse. Dirty Walker.

51:34 Exactly a dirty Walker, but walking is so healthy because this literally gets your entire body moving and it's something everybody can do, right? Everybody can do. So you could combine the the sun you get in the morning, you could combine the grounding, you could buy the breath work and you could combine walking as as that.

51:51 And there you go. You got 4 things you're doing all at once. So you don't have doesn't have to take you 2 hours to do your your routine. You can do it in a short half hour. You get your walking in, you get the breathing techniques done, you get some sun on your body, you ground your feet for five to 1015 minutes. Whatever you, whatever you can do and your health is going to transform.

52:10 I promise you. It's amazing what you're going to see when you do that and do it consistently. And people are going to start saying that this guy is not crazy. He knows what he knows what he's talking about. It's not me. It's like I've learned this from all these holistic practitioners I'm working with. It's like every single one of them. I, if I would ask them, are these six things important to you?

52:31 And they, every single one of them is going to say, yes, yes, that's important. Yes, that's an important yes. Every single one. There's not, there's not a doubt in my mind that any practitioner that you're going to that who understands how the human body works is going to say those things are great for you. What the problem is all most of our doctors in, in the United States anyway, they've been trained on in Western medicine and Western medicine, they, they go through 12 years of schooling and they get taught nutrition 1, you know, maybe 11 class out of 12 years.

53:05 So do you think they remember anything about nutrition? No, they have no clue about nutrition and how that helps the body. And so they're, they're, they're just looking at their specialist in one particular, you know, expertise, which they're probably great at that. And that's why we need those people.

53:21 Like I needed the heart specialist, right? Thank God for the God put heart specialist on this earth, right? Because they, they saved my life and I, I believe that God put me there and I believe that I'm a miracle because of that. So I still, I don't want to ever disparage the healthcare industry. The men and women who work in the healthcare industry are, are amazing, right?

53:45 They really have a heart to help people and they're trying to help people, but the system is all messed up. So the system is just sent incentivized on money and not helping people. And I think there's a bit, there's a big change going on in the world. The people are opening up their eyes to 1, the corruption.

54:01 But then two, just how bad our food system is, our food supply and how bad that is for you. And you see all the, all the charts of cancer going through the roof, diabetes is going through the roof. All these things are going through the roof that really bad because we're not taking care of ourselves. So once you start realising that you're like, oh, I can reverse cancer with just doing these things. I can reverse diabetes by doing these things. I can, you know, it's like you start looking at the all these things that you can do.

54:30 And that's why I'm just going to be building this resource of information for people. It's give me really valuable information that people can have access to. And I'm going to have AI tools in there for it to help them research different components and, and give them recommendations, right? Meal plans and all different types of things. And just like, Hey, what, what do the experts say about this? What the experts say about this?

54:52 And it's not going to be Rob. It's going to be me taking the best of all these amazing people who've been before who've already educated people on a lot of this information I'm gathering. The AI tool. Yeah, the AI tool's going to be amazing, right? It's going to be an AIAI biohacking tools and this Biohacking Ville community that I'm creating is going to be ridiculously cool because it's going to give people so much information that's that's going to help them the healthy, wise and, and physically and then mentally and then spiritually, right. So we have a spiritual connection and component in there.

55:29 If that, if you're interested in that, right, you want to want to know why you should read the Bible. We're going to have information in there on that. As long as you want to come in and just learn about cold, cold plunge therapy or debris. Or you seem to be a cold plunge. Everything. We're we're going to make sure exercise is a bit is a big part of that.

55:50 Whoa. And of course I am an AI enthusiast that of course, you know, you talk about cool. Do you know what is super cool is the fact that you are talking to AI? You can see my screen, the audience cannot see the initials, right? But what are my initials? Yo, Oh, AIDAIO. There you go. AI. I love it. I didn't even realise that I love it. You are the AI lion.

56:24 I love it. Whoa. I always tell people that my parents knew the assignment. They knew this guy's going to love AI when it comes, you know, And they were like, oh, let's, let's, let's give him the initials. Let's codify it. There you go. Shout out to our parents. Yeah, exactly. They're they were smart before he even knew it. Right.

56:43 I love it. You know, I I love, I love AI tools. I love the efficiency that AI gives you, right? Yeah. It can be used for good and for bad. Right. Yeah, but but I take the good side. That's my. That's my world, right? I'm like, hey, yes, it can be used for bad, but guess what? Let's figure out ways to use it for good and let's help people with it, right?

57:06 Because some of this information is so buried and so complex and so hard to understand. It's like, you get these your blood, blood results right back, right? You get, you're like, what is all this, what all these things mean, right? But you can plug it into to AI and it tells you in a second, right, what it analyses your, your blood. And then you could take your genetics and do the same thing. So you start combining your blood work with your genetics and all the things that you can do. And then it's like, Oh, guess what, Maybe with your specific type of cancer, your you shouldn't be doing this. You should be doing that.

57:40 You know, it's just there's so much information that's that's out there that's hard to understand. The AI can help us automate, right? Let's. Help us optimise people. Yeah, let's optimise people's health in a very positive way, give them the tools that they don't have and let's just help the world, right? Be a be a better place.

57:58 And if we can have an impact, a positive impact on people's lives, it's going to just just snowball, right? And I believe that's, that's why I'm here on this earth is that he, he put me here to, to make a difference in people's health and in their fates. That's that's all I'm focused on. I'm going to build, I'm going to build biohacking Ville and it's going to be amazing.

58:17 And if you want to use my supplements, great, because they're cool. They really help you a lot. If you want to use my skin patches, great, they're cool. They really help as well. But you know what, I'm here to help you. And if you have a certain health condition, and I have some information about that, that I've gathered, I want you to have access to it.

58:33 And you know, I want you to be get to it for free. And I want you to just help yourself. And then guess what, you know, we'll, we'll find out ways to monetize this system over over time. But right now it's just like value. We want to provide a front, front load of value for people. And then, geez, there's going to be great things we can do, right? Maybe someone needs to go on a, on a trip to, to Mexico to do to get a treatment plant that they only do that treatment plant in Mexico.

58:58 So maybe we facilitate trips there. There's all sorts of ways that I can monetize this in the future. But that's not the, that's not the goal. The goal is to let's go help people. And then as I'm helping people, God's going to provide. He'll provide a way. And I'm not sure what that way will be, but I know that He's going to provide it.

59:15 So I'm just going to build it and it's going to be amazing. It's going to be a lot of fun. I love the value proposition, you know, and I had or would I say I said IT economics for my first degree and IT economics classic to others, money is a stall value. So if you offer value, you only deserve to receive our value in return.

59:37 I'm going to pick you on something. You say you are a Walker, right? Is that the reason why you are Exodus strong? Because the children of Israel did walk? Yeah. Walking is just super important to me now. I, I, I used to run right before my cancer diagnosis, I would run three days a week. But with my specific tumour and cancer, I can't run right now. So hey, I walk and yeah, yeah, walking out of the, out of out of the, you know, the, the, the dungeon dungeons in, in Egypt, right?

1:00:11 And, and into the promised land and, and they had to walk, right. They, they walked a really, really, really long time. So walking is. Has the name Exodus Strong? You know Nelson Madela wrote a book. The title of the book is A Long Walk to Freedom. I love it. I love it and I love I love to lift weights too, right.

1:00:32 So I'm, I'm you can't tell. I'm not in bad shape for for 57. I like to lift weights and I think it's important, right? You lift weights and it's use up a lot of energy and you you build muscle. Muscle is way better than fat right inside. Your body. And so yeah, it's just, I'm having a blast doing, doing, just getting well right. And I, I am so much healthier than I was a year ago. Even though I have this diagnosis and I have this tumour in my body.

1:00:59 My body is, I've turned it into a, a fighting machine. My body is fighting off anything that comes into my body and I'm going to fight off this cancer because I'm doing all the research, I'm doing all the things that I'm supposed to do and I'm getting the right treatments. And I'm not doing chemotherapy. I'm not doing things that are that are written radiation that the standard of care in the United States for cancer just sucks.

1:01:24 So I'm doing immunotherapy for for my particular cancer, but I'm also doing a whole list of holistic treatments. And I'm just excited about learning all of this information because I'm meeting all these awesome, cool doctors who've been helping people for decades, right? So I'm able to learn from them and say, man, not only do I want to learn, but I want to, I'm going to pass it forward.

1:01:45 I'm going to have this integrative oncology section within Biohackingville. Just like, hey, when people get diagnosed with cancer, guess what? You need to go find out this information for my specific version of Melanoma. I've got, you know, states free Melanoma and I have a BRAF mutation. You're like, what the heck is a BRAF mutation?

1:02:04 BRAF mutation is just a genetic component. Love my particular version of cancer. And then what's crazy cool about this is you start researching about the BRAF mutation and I learned that I was on the wrong diet for the first six months of my, of my cancer regime. I was on a keto, keto diet and the BRAF mutation feeds off of saturated fat. So it feeds off of glucose.

1:02:28 This is the first thing it feeds off of, which is sugar, right? So we talked about that sugar one. Cancer just feeds off of sugar. So good. Yeah, I immediately cut out all sugar. That's why I went on the keto diet. But the problem with my specific version of Melanoma, this BRAF mutation, it feeds off of saturated fat.

1:02:47 And I eat a lot of saturated fat because the keto diet is high fat, low carbohydrate, right. So I was doing it wrong. I was feeding my cancer early on with saturated fats. I didn't know that. But see, the more information you learn about your specific situation, my specific body and my particular cancer, my gosh, there's so much good information out there. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I didn't realise. So now I'm on a, on a modified keto diet, taking out a lot of the saturated fats.

1:03:15 So really low carbohydrates, no sucrose, you know, no sugars and the really low saturated fat. And guess what, you know, I know I'm going to win. God is going to me supernaturally or you know the I'm going to be healed through the doctors and practitioners like they did with my heart, right? These are making practitioners help me with my heart. And I'm interviewing these awesome practitioners and saying, Hey, how are you helping people? What are you doing?

1:03:39 What's what should they do? And now that's fun. They're saying, well, you should go get this genetic test. You should go to get this. You should do that. And I don't want to just take it for me. I want to say great, you know, here, everybody else who gets cancer, come look, this is what this is what multiple doctors are recommending, you know, pick the ones you pick the one you want that that's, that's for you.

1:03:59 And hey, guess what, if you have malignant Melanoma and you have the brass mutation, hook me up, I'll hook you up. I'm going to, I'm going to, I want to make sure you know what I know so you can, you can be better and be well. So that that's my going to be my contribution to, to society is, is putting together this amazing community of resources are going to help people in a dramatic way.

1:04:22 And biohacking is super fun, right? Yeah, that's actually super fun. And you know, OK, across thought crossed my mind right before I talk about biohacking. One thing with biohacking is the whole radiation and frequency thing, right? So frequency medicine, which is actually not mainstream, right? I, I like for you to talk about what it is and how it has been a role in your healing.

1:04:54 But before we delve into that, I remember you, you talked about having a low saturated fat diet and low carbs. And that reminds me of the Mediterranean diet, right? I've had the opportunity to to have to taste the Mediterranean cuisine and looking at the way they do their barbecues, for example, the meat is tasty and of course they serve it with a lot of salads, right. It looks really healthy and a lot of. Spices, right?

1:05:28 Yeah, the the spices and it's, it's amazing to see how healthy food can be made to look cool at the same time. And taste good. And taste good. You can actually, yeah. I'd like for you to to talk about it before we heat because OK, I'm not a very big foodie, but like I love. Tasty food. I, I love tasty food too, right? And, and when I was going through my corporate career, right, I was heavy.

1:05:55 I was, I was probably 50 lbs heavier than I am now and I just ate whatever I want. I drank all the time. I'm seven years sober now so I haven't had anything to. Drink for. Seven years, I'm super happy about that. So I've obviously made made mistakes in my life, right? I'm not perfect, I've made a lot of mistakes, but. At the same point.

1:06:14 Yeah, we're, we're all sinners to be to be honest, right. But at the same point I'm learning from from them and I'm, I'm making myself better. And so every, every step along the way, I'm making myself better. This Mediterranean diet is, is really interesting because I, I still modify the Mediterranean diet a little bit.

1:06:31 I don't do near as many carbs that are on the Mediterranean diet. So I still do low carb, but man, there's some. You can make really, really good meats, right? Yeah, the proteins is what what I am very particularly. About, but yeah. Smoked so I don't know, like when I say dry and lean and it feels like there's literally no fats in it and it still tastes good. Yeah, and then you can do the.

1:06:55 Veggies, right? And spice. Yeah, the veggies, veggies, and then you, you, you add, you know, most people don't, they think of fruits and vegetables as just a health food and vegetables, most people don't like it because it just doesn't taste good. But man, if you if you cook it right, you can add the right, you know, things in the the spices and the right elements, the the right oils, right? Because the oils can be really, really bad too, right? The seed oils are just horrible for you. So you can get these good like avocado oil and you can mix it with good, good spices and man, you can really dress up those, those beans and the things that used to not think you were any good as a as a child.

1:07:36 And it's like, wow, that really tastes asparagus is amazing that that you know, beans are really or cauliflower. You can make you can make this crust on top of cauliflower that is just delicious and you're like cauliflower that's disgusting, but it's not. It's so, but so anyway, I'm, I'm, I'm my wife just laughs too, because she is not a cook.

1:07:59 And so I was like, Hey, I have to eat this diet. So I got, I got to Start learning how to prepare this stuff for myself. And so, you know, she and I worked, we worked together on a, on a cauliflower head, right? And we, we baked it the other day and it was really fun because it was like, wow, it really turns that, that hard cauliflower into this soft caramelised texture.

1:08:20 And then you have these good spices on top and it tastes really good and you're like, this is cauliflower. That's not the cauliflower I was thinking of. When I what do I eat? Cauliflower. To be honest, right when when, when I did, you know, try it, I felt like I had a rude awakening. Healthy food. Canal and doesn't cauliflower in and of itself just doesn't taste like anything really.

1:08:44 It's just like this you're putting this thing in your mouth. I was like don't even taste much but yeah, yeah, you can do some fun. Broccoli. He's like super duper good with fibre and you know, things like that. So I'm doing a lot of lot of high fibre, low carb proteins get good proteins at least lots of nutrients, right.

1:09:02 And I use lots of supplements that go along with it to make sure that I'm I'm doing things accurately and, and getting all the nutrients my body needs to fight this battle. So I'm I'm having a blast learning how to do that. Wow, amazing, super amazing. So now let let's talk about the frequency medicine. So I have my I have my own frequency patches right here. Yes, I think I did show you.

1:09:26 I don't know. Where? How to do the slime right? Now. It is, it is fascinating, Frank, 'cause I, this is literally one of the things I thought was just stupid. I really did when I was first introduced to it. I'm like give me a break, I saw it. I listen. Thought it was ridiculous, I'm not going to lie. Yeah, and exactly.

1:09:45 My chiropractor gave me some. This is my phone right here. I still have my 5G word right. There we go. That's right, that's right. And here are my little patches, right this this is the loops. I'm upside down. This is the fatigue to vitality patch. And this patch is just really small, right? It's the little teeny thing and looks like a little sticker.

1:10:08 You put it on your body. I'll put it on the side here just so you can see it, right. See, you know, I would normally put it underneath my collar on my back. But the cool thing about this is what we do is we spray a little crystalline structure on a top of it. These little crystalline structures can hold information similar to how a computer can hold information, right?

1:10:27 A hard drive on your computer holds all the ones and zeros that are that are on your computer. These little crystals, crystal structure is a crystal structure can hold information. So we programme it with frequencies and we programme it literally with data as well. So we, we include 40 Bible verses on our patch.

1:10:48 The ones and zeros of those, those words get imprinted on the patch. We implement the frequency and it's, it's called subtle energy. So when you do research on frequencies, you'll see lots of different types of frequencies and there's all different types of frequency machines that will, you can dial up and down the frequency and then you can change music, right? And you can change the frequency of the music and there's all different types of frequencies.

1:11:15 This is stuff that I didn't know, but as I was researching all of it, I'm like, oh, wow, this is fascinating. It's way more complicated than I thought it was. And this subtle energy is cut sometimes also called quantum energy, because quantum energy is like another realm that is really interesting. And as you start researching the human body, you can realise that you realise your energy system is, is outside of your body, which I know sounds weird, but it's true. So there's some people call it an aura, but you have this, this energy field around you as a, as a human being. God made us this way.

1:11:49 This isn't something funky or new age or strange. This is the way God made our human bodies. And we're still figuring out that our human body, that the, even all the research and scientists we've done, they still haven't figured out how to measure quantum energy. And there's, there's now some new tools and maybe they figured out ways to, to monitor some of this stuff.

1:12:10 What's cool about subtle energy? Is it something you can't measure typically, but we can still know that it works by the effects that it has on the body. So we've done research that says, OK, let's apply this patched to someone and let's put on an EEG monitor like those hats you put on that have all the, the wires coming out of your your hat and it monitors your brain waves. And so when you put this patch on, within 5 seconds, your brain waves.

1:12:40 Like if someone's in pain, one of our patches is a, is a relief patch. And that relief patch, what people that are in pain, they'll come in and they're, they're brain waves are going like this because it's like really up and down, really up and down because their brain is stressed out because their body's stressed out.

1:12:58 And so the brain waves are going up and down quite heavily. When they apply our solution to their body, the brain waves, they start smoothing out like it happens like really quickly. Oh my gosh. Is it one of those patches that also generates heat as well? Well, this one, this one doesn't there. I think there's some that are and they trap light and there's some other, there's some other ones and. When you see some matter that has been extracted from your body as well.

1:13:27 Yeah. So there's different, there's all different types. There's even patches that put medicine inside your body, right. But this one, these patches that we do just 100% natural, it just has that quantum energy filled in it and it connects to your energy system. And then it helps with certain conditions. So we programme it specifically for those conditions. So if you have, you know, something that's hurting you, we have a patch for that.

1:13:51 And then what that does interrupts the signal from the issue you're having to your brain. And so all of a sudden your body doesn't recognise that you have that anymore. It's like I had this one woman who who came and she couldn't lift up her arm if she'd been doing this repetitive motion. Guess what this repetitive motion is at a, at a casino, right?

1:14:11 So she was doing dealing cards for decades. In the last 10 years of her career, she had to have her elbow tucked in and she couldn't move her shoulder. It was so, so worn out. And she tried our, our patch and she came back to me an hour later. She lifted up her arm and she was just smiling from ear to ear, just going, I can't believe it.

1:14:31 And I was like, what's what? And she's like, I haven't been able to lift my arm for 10 years. Like, what do you mean? She's like, seriously, I haven't, I haven't been able to put a purse on my shoulder because it just falls off. And she, she came back the next day. So I wore it last night to sleep and I slept better than I have because I'm always in pain when I'm sleeping and just like, wow, this is so amazing.

1:14:52 So we, we've taken that product out to the world and we're helping people in a really dramatic way with, with that's, that's no drugs, right? It's been so obviously some people don't like that we have these solutions because there's they, they can't, they can't, they can't patent it and they can't, you know, we're helping people.

1:15:10 So I have to be a little, little careful about, about it, but hey, I'm, I'm trying to help the world. And so if, if something happens to me, then that's what God, God wanted to happen. So anyway, yeah, these frequencies are real. I, I something I thought was hocus pocus. And it's not, it's actually real. And they have it have a physical impact on the body and they can make changes in on the body and that you can do it for, for really inexpensive.

1:15:36 So it's like that's game changing for people. So that that's I'm passionate about getting, getting the, the patches to people because it's like, wow, it can really make a make a big difference. And so the, we termed the company QE strong for quantum Energy strong. So QE strong is where, where you can find those patches and they're, they're phenomenal. They're really helping people in, in a, in a dramatic way. And then you combine it with our supplement, man, you can't, you, you can't lose, right?

1:16:04 You got, you got frequencies on your body. You got the capsules behind your body. You're using the, the mind body spirit connection. We got you covered, man. You know, from, from, from, from head to toe. You're going to, you're going to be well, we give you all these AI tools to go research your problem and then how to help. And you're just going to say, Hey, wake up and you do go, go get your son, go do your breathing techniques. Go, go do their your walking and get your exercise in, get that hydration in and get that sun on your face and your, your feet on the ground.

1:16:34 And man, you're going to be a better person. And then you're going to land when your, your job, you're going to have so much energy and exercise with your work. You're going to make such a big difference in this world because you got yourself well and you got yourself healthy. And then, you know, start, start reading the Bible and have a relationship with your Lord and Saviour.

1:16:52 And is that you're going to, you're going to transform the world. Health is well, let's talk about our Celtic soul to have this right here. What's the would I say health benefits of? Yeah, salt is got such a bad rap because most people think salt is horrible and and iodized salt is really bad for you.

1:17:15 The table salt that most people think of is is salt because that is bad. But Celtic salt is amazing because it has like 80 to 80 to 90 nutrients in it that you need that your body needs like 96 nutrients every day and most people are not getting those nutrients. So the awesome thing? About. What quantity? Should I take?

1:17:36 Well, no, not a lot. Yeah, a pinch. Yeah. You don't want to do that. I promise you're not going to feel very well if you do that. So it's important. You take a pinch. You take a pinch and you you put it under your tongue and it it goes gets into your system, by the way. And some people even just pinch it into their water in the morning. And some people also add lemon water in lemon into their water. So you did get that water in the morning. You put a little bit of a pinch of Celtic salt and lemon in your water.

1:18:09 And the benefits are just off the chart, right? You look at the what those those three things do for you. It's like, why not? Why would you not put those extra nutrients inside your body? And you can do that a couple times throughout the day with those with that salt. And then just start using good that Celtic salt on different things.

1:18:27 Like when you're cooking, add a little bit of Celtic salt. When you're, when you're doing a salad that you put a little bit of Celtic salt in there, you're not going to notice that you're, whatever the salad dressing and other things you're putting on the, the salad, you're not going to notice that you added that extra, extra Celtic salt. And it's going to give you the same benefit your, your body still utilises it.

1:18:46 So it's just something I, I definitely add to, to most meals and that I, I do every morning. Take it a little bit of the Celtics. Wow, interesting. Thank you. You got me by surprise. I wouldn't expect it now, but I like it. Oh wow, so. What comes out of this nugget? It's like, wow, I'm like. Golden, golden Nuggets, You're not from Denver out, I'll say you You're fan of the Denver Nuggets anyway. No, no, no, definitely not.

1:19:23 I came from Portland, so I'm a Portland. Trailblazer. A trailblazer. Yeah, you are a. Trailblazer No, I live in Dallas, TX and I should be a Cowboys fan, but I hate the Cowboys. I'm a I'm a Chicago Bears fan of all things. Like, how do I how do I like the Portland Trail Blazers and the the, you know, Chicago Bears?

1:19:40 I don't, I don't, I don't get it. But, you know, that's what happened. I like this sports like. Yeah. They're very loyal to their teams. Oh, my teams are not good. You know, it's like brother, but you know you got to ride or die with them, right? So. Ride or die. I was going to ask you about the whole molecular hydrogen thing because it's really a centrepiece to your formula, right? For the education of our audience, What is molecular hydrogen and why is essential to your formula? It's, it's key, it's literally key to the it's a foundation of our product and it's very, very important. And the the more research I did on that's why I got so excited. This practitioner who joined forces with us to create Exodus the molecular hydrogen has been

1:20:32 helping people in a really significant way, helping people with really big problems. And this just by having molecular hydride inside the body. It does great things. So I'm like, how does it do that? And so I started doing that guess that that research word right that that thing's been so instrumental to my existence this last five or six years is like, I love doing research. So I started researching the heck out of frequencies, you know, for that business and what we were doing and I started researching molecular hydride and I was like, what is this? What is it do?

1:21:03 And what I found was crazy cool. There's three websites that are super easy to remember that you can go to thereshydrogenstudies.com. You go to hydrogenstudies.com and there's literally thousands of scientific reports that have been done on the benefits of hydrogen. So you can go search it and say, Hey, I have this or you know, my mom has this and you do a search and then it just shows you all the scientific evidence of what how that has helped people with certain issues. So it's really, really fascinating to see all the things that it can help with because it's, you know, the things that we're talking about that I've talked about today are energy.

1:21:43 I've talked about inflammation, I've talked about, you know, a stress response, We've talked about gut health, you know, those types of things. You start doing research on hydrogen and it helps with all those, but it also helps with a lot of other things I haven't even talked about. That's what's so awesome about this product is it's so much more than what we're presenting it as.

1:22:02 But if you tell, if you tell people, hey, OK, this product is going to help you with these 20 things, they're going to say, oh, come on, give me a break. You just can't position it that way, right? People don't believe it. But the fun thing is when you start researching hydrogen, the benefits to the human body are awesome.

1:22:18 And then so that's hydrogen studies.com and then you can go to molecularhydrogenstudies.com. So that's more specific to molecular hydrogen. And the molecular hydrogen is just a small micro nano bubbles that that get created inside the body. And then there's a molecular hydrogen institute.org and that organisation is all about just researching molecular hydrogen. So there's, they've got an institute and you can become certified, which I'm certified is a molecular hydrogen specialist, right?

1:22:49 So I was like, wow, cool. But you know, it doesn't mean anything, but it's cool that I, it's cool. I've learned a lot about molecular hydrogen, right? Too cool for school, Yeah. Too cool for school. I should plaque it, put this thing up a big plaque, molecular hearted especially, but it is fascinating.

1:23:07 They do research on this, the product a lot. And it's really cool to see all the things that it's helping people with. And then to know that we've got a product that's unlike any other product in the market. And it creates molecular hydrant inside the body. And this is like, it's just so fun because it, it's helping people and the stories we're getting are awesome.

1:23:27 And I know that it's going to be something that you're going to be able to get this product worldwide in, in believe in the next 12 months. Right now we sell mainly in the in North America, but we are working on relationships with some really large organisations who have distribution facilities all across the globe. And we want to take this product out to the world because this product deserves to be in every single country. And everybody needs to have access to this product because it's that good.

1:23:54 It's that one of those products that are just, it's not like you're your mama's supplement, right? Your Mama's supplement might be something American. Your Mama jokes One of the fast words that I ever heard was Your Mama's so fat when she walked across the TV. They had just showed one episode of Everybody Hates Greece or like What Americans I Love. I love you guys, but sometimes you can't be ridiculous. We can't be.

1:24:19 Amen. I I, I claim that. Yeah, we can't be. So Mama, Mama. Jokes aside, my mom was up up in heaven laughing at me right now. She's like Oh my God, can't believe you're talking about jokes about me. Yo Mama jokes, American, Give me one of those. I can't even. That's the the one I have heard first, that it always makes me laugh every time, because I did. I did watch out.

1:24:47 Everybody hits squeeze for a bit. I'm not a movie person, but yeah, beats and pieces, right? Yeah, yeah. What are the popular ones? I, I, I, I can't. There's some I can't say on the show. It's just like. You are allowed to say anything, anything, Feel. Free. That'll strike me down, you know, So you you're not Oh yeah. I try to stay away from it.

1:25:14 I'll I'll, I'll be, I'll be clean. I'll try to stay away from the the nasty jokes but. Probably the nasty. One, we're having a lot of fun. We're we're laughing. You know, another fun thing that's absolutely healthy for you and it's free is laughing. I mean such seriously. Honestly. There's another one, they say your mama's so fat and when she got on the scale it said I need your weights, not your phone number. That's good.

1:25:38 I could look, I, I could look some up and I I just can't do it. Your your moment's so fat. I took a picture of her last Christmas and it's still printing. Americans why? Americans, Why? That's pretty good. That's pretty. Good. And of course, the last one I'm going to tell you is your mama's so fat when she went to the beach, a whale swam up and sank.

1:26:03 We are family even though you are fatter than me. That's pretty amazing. America, the land of the free and the home of the brave. The home of the brave, indeed. Fortune. Fevers we. Gotta have some fun, right? You can have fun life. And why? Why are we here? So yeah, but actually, that laughter ISM is great medicine.

1:26:27 Really, really good medicine. It's your your stomach. Going it's like that's why people when they laugh so much, their stomach hurts. It's because it literally it's physical. You know, you're doing all these things and your body's bodies laughing and it's just really good for your mental state and get good for your health too.

1:26:43 It's like, so obviously you can tell I love, love health because I end up equating all these, all these crazy things into how does that help me with my health? Just because I, I'm so passionate about helping people, right? I really want to help people in a dramatic way. Yeah, I just that's why God has got me on this earth.

1:27:00 So I'm just going to keep pounding it and I'm going to say, hey, Biohackingville is going to be this amazing community. Come join me on my mission and let's help let's help the world together, right. If you you're passionate about something within the biohacking world, man, let's go let's go do research it together and let's find all the the the cool resources.

1:27:18 Let's get them on the community and let's let's just help the world. So I'm. Trying to keep and battle something passionate about. Yeah, antioxidants, antioxidants. And of course, you you see that Exodus is blend that is a master antioxidant. So what does that mean and why? Why does it matter? Yeah.

1:27:38 So let's we go back to that molecular hydrogen component. So that molecular hydrogen has been proven to be a master at or what a lot of people call it selective antioxidant. I call it master because it's that word makes better sense to me. A selective antioxidant. So let's let's say what an antioxidant is 1st and an antioxidant just gets get it takes stuff within your bloodstream and it and gets rid of them.

1:28:06 So that's what the antioxidants will do that. And the bad thing about an antioxidant, it gets rid of a lot of good stuff. So it will just take out of out of your bloodstream. And maybe it's to taking, you know, little carriers that we're taking nutrients to a cell and the antioxidant just takes it away.

1:28:25 And it's like, oh, your cells needed that nutrient, why did you take it away? And that that's not smart where molecular hydrogen is so cool that it's called a selective antioxidant. So it goes and finds the bad thing, the free radicals, the things that are not. Basically fighting over the free radicals.

1:28:44 It connects to free radicals and gets rid of them. Yeah, but then it helps the mitochondrial process work better. That's why it's called a selective Antioch, because it only think it only searches and destroys the bat, you know, and gets rid of, gets rid of the bat. That's why it's so, so instrumental in people's health. So that's, I'm glad you pointed that out because it's something I, I had missed to talk about because it's so, so critical to, to the benefit of molecular hydrogen, right? Is, is that capability?

1:29:14 That's why I mentioned there's so many good things about molecular hydrogen and it's like, it's, it's kind of off the charts. Like, wow, this is super, super, super good. Why doesn't everybody not have it now? You know, all of a sudden, you know, Gary Brecca and all these people that are really big into, into health, they're, they're, they're selling these hydrogen water bottles that are expensive, like $300 bottles that you, you click a button and it puts hydrogen in your water.

1:29:39 And those are good. I mean, it's better than than other water. But the problem is if you don't drink it immediately, all that hydrogen, it diffuses really quickly. So it creates it quick, but then it also diffuses really quick. So if you don't drink it immediately, it's going to be wasted. And then by the time it goes into your stomach or into your oesophagus in your mouth and your oesophagus into your stomach, it diffuses. By the time it gets into your stomach and then your body assimilates it, there's not much hydrogen left. So, so that's why ours is so cool. You, you get the capsule, you put the capsule in your mouth and your, it goes into your stomach and then your stomach assimilates it and your body

1:30:17 creates the hydrogen. So since your body's creating the hydrogen assimilates it in a much stronger, stronger fashion, So much, much better than delivering it via the water or even you can get these oxygen things. You put this little oxygen thing in your nose and your, your breathing hydrogen and that's good too.

1:30:37 It just doesn't cross the blood brain barrier. Whereas if you put it inside your, those little Mac though now bubbles I talked about inside your bloodstream, since it's in your bloodstream, it got it does cross the blood brain barrier. So it go, it'll help people with, you know, cognitive issues and you go look at hydrogen.

1:30:54 How does it help with cognitive issues? And it's like, wow, there's a lot of different things that it helps you be, you know, clearer. Just go research that, right? Yeah. It's like, I'm not going to make claims on anything of anything that we do. We can't claim anything that our product helps. But you know it, It's just fun when you do it.

1:31:12 Go look at the cognitive benefits of hydrogen and you're like, wow, that's really cool. Can do a. Lot of the rabbit hole of research. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot to research. There's a lot of fun and you know, people, people just, you know, even in college that students should be using this instead of doing a late night binge of caffeine, they should be doing Exodus. And it's going to, it's going to give them the energy they need, but it's also going to give them that mental acuity, right? And clarity.

1:31:39 Mental. Yeah, before they take that test the next day, they should be taking Exodus so they could go and remember all that stuff that they just, they just cramped. Yeah, so that Exodus can take them to the promised land. That's right, that's right. You're going to get an A on that S baby because you took your eczema.

1:31:59 So you know, there are thousands and millions of supplements out there. What separates Exodus from the park? Why is it different? From there's way to. Others that our listeners are have seen or heard about. 100% different because of the combination. The mind body, spirit thing is the first one. No other, no other product that's going to combine you saying a prayer out loud, using your mind to declare it in your mouth to declare it and your eyes to read it. And you're, you're speaking over your body and then you're praying to the Lord, right?

1:32:31 Then the Lord may heal you, your mind may heal you. So we're using, we're activating 2 things that have nothing to do with the actual supplement itself. But then we combine the power of this amazing supplement, right? And we packed those seven ingredients with the molecular hydrogen blend in it. So as you, as you put it in, we're the only product that has these nutrients and the molecular hydrogen blend in it. There's no other product on the market that, that has this combination.

1:33:01 It's just, it's a, no one can, no one can match it. So it's going to be a product that's it's going to stand on its own for a really, really long time and it separates it from all. You can get rid of 5-6 different supplements by just using exes. So a lot of people take a lot of supplements and I do now, especially with my battle that I'm in right now. But I use my all natural health practitioners. They want me to take four times as much Exodus as the, as our normal survey that we would give to people because it's got such good health benefits.

1:33:34 They're like, hey, yeah, you need to, you need to quadruple the four times the amount. So I take 4 servings of, of Exodus every day for my own health. And that's what the, the natural practitioners are, are recommending for me to do. So it's really got some awesome, awesome benefits for me. And and there's no negative benefits or no negative side effects that we've ever seen.

1:33:55 Speaking of no negative side effects, I'd love for you to share a powerful story of somebody that has had their life or their health transformed through your body of work. You know you are combining faith and science together, so how has that changed lives? And definitely there should be 1 sounding board story for you. One story that resonates with you till this day. There's, there's literally lot, I mean lots of them and it's, it's really exciting and that's why I why I do what I do is because I, I love helping people. There's one, one woman who just amazing woman and her, her, her, her daughter.

1:34:42 This is this is a crazy story, but her daughter was having such a difficult time where she her body was just put breaking down and her body was breaking down so much that she couldn't sleep. And then it just created this snowball of effect in this this young woman's life that it was just, it was tragic.

1:35:02 She literally wanted to commit suicide. She wanted to just be done with this world. She didn't she would just couldn't sleep. She was, was just physically breaking down everywhere and it was just a really traumatic thing for, for she started taking the molecular hydrogen product and the components, you know, with our, with our product and it, it changed her life dramatically. And within a very short period of time, within a couple of weeks, this young lady transitioned her life from being near death and wanting to die to being 100% restored, sleeping at night.

1:35:44 And, and just her, her whole life transitioned and changed because of some capsule slip that we be able to create. So it's just like, that's such a such a great feeling that you're, you're having such a big impact on someone's life and they like, they feel indebted to do that because they're like, wow, it has such an amazing impact on, on my family's life.

1:36:07 You know, the mother who, who tells us these stories and the, the daughter who took them. It's just like, Oh my gosh, it's so neat to see that transformation right from somebody's life that was there literally didn't want to be here anymore. And they, they now are just thriving and that he's a young woman in in schools.

1:36:26 He's I think he's in high school now. And just a couple years ago this happened and it's just a fact. It wasn't even that long ago. And it just a super fun that she she's able to do that. So I there's, there's dozens of them. I wanted love it as a pastor, right is pastor. He's a musician and he he loves the product so much. He's like, this literally is a game changer for me. He calls it a game changer.

1:36:49 This is this has changed my life. I was like, yeah, you don't get a pastor who's going to lie to you, right? Well, maybe, maybe they're they're probably are thick ones. We know there are some. Let's talk about the good pastors there are. Many of them. That's not good there. The good pastors are not going to lie to you.

1:37:09 And yeah, you know, he's just like, wow, this is a game changer for my health. And, you know, I use it. My brother brother uses it. My brother is a minister, an online minister. And he stays up really late at night doing Bible studying. And he's doing, doing a lot of ministry during the day and he'd be reading the word right, reading, reading the Bible, and he'd be so exhausted from his research he did the night before.

1:37:34 And then it shows that he would, he would just be exhausted fall asleep. He's like, that's so embarrassing. I'm trying, I'm reading the word right. I'm trying to have a relationship with God and I'm falling asleep, right. And he's like, this sucks. And so he started taking Exodus and he's like, this is this is amazing.

1:37:49 He's like, I feel good. You know, I don't, I don't feel in the afternoon. He takes a couple of capsules in the morning, takes two more capsules in the afternoon and he's got the energy for the rest of the day. It's just like, wow, it's, it's transforming people's lives right in front of me. So it's it's fun.

1:38:04 Wow. So Speaking of the Bible, why is your goal of 1,000,000 people within the Bible daily tied to physical healing? To me, like I mentioned from the beginning, right, my body spirit connection, I think is very real and it's very, very powerful and I believe that God has put me on this earth for a mission. And if you read the Bible and you understand what the Bible says, the Great Commission, which is for us to make disciples of all nations.

1:38:33 And in order for me to make disciples of all nations, I got to get people to understand what the word is. And the way I that I'm introducing people to the to the word of the, the word of the Lord is is through our our product, right on the outside of our product. It has a Bible where it says, for I am the Lord your healer.

1:38:51 That's Exodus 1526, right? It's and so it's in nature innate of what we do as a company. We believe that, you know, you don't have to be a Christian to leverage our product. Our product is amazing in and of itself and use it right. It's going to help you. But if you combine the mind, body, spirit, connection and you're actually reading the word, you're going to make a big impact. And there's might be people who not reading the word every day who read this prayer guide and get excited about a, a verse like, wow, that's a really cool verse. But the cool thing about the Bible is there's context to that verse right in this, maybe we're in this prayer guide. It's not doesn't discuss the

1:39:31 context of what that that Bible verse means. So the fun thing when you're researching the Bible is you, it's, it's all about context. What it, what did, what did it mean or what did Jesus mean when he said this? And what was the context around it? And so we do a little, but we have a 30 minute or 15 to 30 minute Bible studies on each of these verses that just say, guess what? This is what this is what it meant back then. This is what you can, how you can apply it to your life today. So get people excited about the word because the one you realise that the Bible, a lot of people call it the living word. And what they mean by that is when you're reading the Bible and you have a relationship with

1:40:11 the Holy Spirit. God indwells the Holy Spirit in within you when you're when you're safe and that Holy Spirit will communicate with you as you're reading the word of God. And you might be reading, reading a sentence and in your mind you're like totally thinking about something totally different. And that in, in a lot of cases could be your just your mind, but also can be the Holy Spirit prompting you. And so that's why I'm so passionate about because the living word is, is amazing.

1:40:39 Having this direct connection with with God is amazing. At the end of the day, we're all going to either die, right? We're all going to die. But at the end of the day, when I believe I die, God is going to to judge the world and he's going to judge you. And at the end of the day, I want him to say, well done, good and faithful servant, because you know, the, the, the road to heaven is a relatively small road. And I want to be one of those people that he welcomes me in into his heaven just because I've I've taken what he's told me to do on this earth.

1:41:12 And I didn't do it for the 1st 50 some years of my life, but the last five 6-7 years, I realised that that's my purpose on on this earth. He's trained me from the beginning of my life to do what I'm doing today. And now that he's giving me a new lease with the heart condition and the miracle that I have experienced just two weeks ago where I was dead on the I would literally my heart's not beating on the operating table and I'm here today to talk to you is literally a miracle. And so I wanted people to understand that I, I realise that and I'm grateful for that and I believe God has me here for a mission.

1:41:50 So I'm going to be very open and honest and upfront about my mission. I'm not hiding it. You know, you don't, you don't have to like me. You don't have to like my mission. You don't have to like God. You don't have to like Jesus. You don't have to like the Bible. If I'm really here to help you with your health, right?

1:42:05 If I can help you with your health, then you might be interested in having another conversation with me about about your faith. And if not, fine, I'd love everybody. I don't care what race, colour, religion you are. I still love you, right? We're all, we're all children of God. And so I come at this from a love perspective and I want to just put my arms and wrap my arms around people and, and help them with their health, because I know that when they get well, they're going to be so much better, a version of themselves and they're going to want to make a difference in this world.

1:42:36 And man, what's what's there's so much negativity in this world. So many bad things are happening in this world. Let's just start changing things for good. Let's get people healthy, Let's get them well. And let's guess what? They're going to go help their neighbour. They're going to go see their grandchildren.

1:42:49 They're going to play with their you know, they're going to go hang out with their friends that they wouldn't hang out with before. Maybe they're going to be nicer to their wife because they feel better. You know, just like so much positivity can happen when you're well that then guess what, you know, start reading the word of the Lord. You know, there's so many people who've read Proverbs every day in the Bible and have become super successful. The Proverbs is so awesome because it's a 31 Proverbs. You go read 1 for every day.

1:43:17 Today's the 4th of August. Just go read Proverbs 4 takes it 5-10, maybe 15 minutes at the most, but most often it's like 5 minutes. You take 5 minutes to read the the proverb for that day and you do that every single day and you just do it every single month. Those things are being How about a? 30 day month or or February?

1:43:38 You might have to read the you have to read it read the 31st 1:00 every once in a while, right? So and then in February when it's a leap year, then you just, you have to actually read a couple extra ones. But So what is the first three-step action you would give someone stuck in chronic pain or spiritual stagnation?

1:44:01 Yeah. So the chronic pain 1 is, is simple, we need to reduce the inflammation, right. So one is I use our our relief patch. I think that's going to help tremendously. But then it's like, how do you reduce that inflammation And inflammation becomes from the starts in the gut. So you need to figure out what's what's irritating your body so much that's causing the inflammation wherever that source is because most people don't try to find the source of their paint. So find the source and the source is going to typically be from is initiate from your gut.

1:44:35 So get your gut healthy and hydrate and use our patch. Those are the first things I would say from that pain perspective, because if you don't find the source, you're, you're not going to fix it. And so people will go for chronic pain for ages and ages and ages and the don't get it fixed. But then I'm learning about techniques about that, you know, and NLT techniques, which are neuro linguistics and, and the techniques that do you have a pain in your, you know, maybe leg that came from a childhood experience that you had. And once they clear that your, your pain heals. It's like what it was just like.

1:45:15 I've interviewed somebody in the past on the NLT in and. It's wild. That's. Really to reconciled it. Yeah, it is hard. It's really hard to understand, right? I don't understand how that works. It doesn't make any sense to me in my in my brain. I don't get it right. But it is a practise out there and people are. Are you it?

1:45:32 Is what it is. It is right, but from a scientific perspective, it makes sense to me that your inflammation starts in your gut. If you can heal your gut, then inflammation will start being reduced in the body and then your organs, you know, all start working the way they're supposed to work. And then man, that's going to reduce a lot of people's chronic pain.

1:45:52 And that does the second one was you'd asked me was related to to faith, right. How do you get out of a stagnant relationship or just feeling about I, I, I was the worst person related to my faith because I was a Christian since I was young, but I wasn't a practising 1. So I would go to church every Sunday and I love the service.

1:46:12 I love the worship. I love the pastor like, ah, great, great, rah rah, rah, boom. Soon as the soon as the door hit me in the butt, you know, I was like, OK, that was great service. Let's go eat lunch, go eat lunch. And now I don't think about church until the next Sunday. And that's not the that's healthy.

1:46:28 And So what I have learned is getting into the word and reading the word on a daily basis is phenomenal. It's so much fun. I started off with Proverbs. I started reading Proverbs every day and I just got finished with the reading the entire Bible 90 day period, which is really satisfying. I got through it chronologically. I went through one of the reading plans and you don't have to be as extreme as I was.

1:46:51 You can just read 5-10 minutes a day. You start reading the word and when you start reading the word is you're going to start being fascinated with what's in there because you could study the Bible for 30 years and still not figure it out. So don't, don't be afraid that you're like, Oh, I'm going to figure this.

1:47:08 I, I, it's too intimidating. Just start. And that's why I love. Eat every. I love that studied you. Should I have approved a Workman that need not be afraid rightly dividing the word of truth. I love that verse. You know, it's very important to to to study. We have a lot of shallow minded Christians in this age and time, people who come to you and tell you, my pastor said. Excuse me?

1:47:33 I have mental care. About your pastor, what does your Bible state say? If you're a Christian, your reference should be your Bible, not your pastor. I'm very, very sorry. Yeah. And I think as we grow older, it's difficult to, like, study the Bible because we have a lot of themes competing for our attention. So I'm grateful.

1:47:55 Like, I I read the Bible. Yeah. From Genesis to Revelations when I was 16. Right, good for you. Good for you. You're way better. I, I, I was, I was 40 years. Something to worry about. I was 40 years late. Hey, you told me to, right? Now that's right. I tell you to pay me a full year side. There you go, I like. It should be told is difficult, you know. It is difficult, but you can you can nail it. But that's what I love about doing it first thing in the morning, because if you do it first thing in the morning, you do it and you get it not out of the way, but you, you do it right.

1:48:33 It's like just through a routine go. Get your lemon water with. Salt. Yeah. And just start, start just reading Proverbs everyday. You know, that's just my recommendation because it's simple, it's easy. And then you start seeing it and, you know, Solomon, who wrote the book of Proverbs, was the richest and wisest man on earth. So it's like, why would you not want to listen to the richest and wisest man on earth, right?

1:48:58 Wouldn't that be something you want somebody you want to learn from? And so you go Start learning from from him and you're like, wow, he's got some really amazing concepts that relate to everyday life, right? It relates to everything you do as a person, relates to your relationships we have with your loved ones.

1:49:16 It relates to your business. It relates to everything that it relates to your entire life. So it's just super simple and easy to do. Start there, You know, as you did is read Proverbs for 30 days. You're going to say that was interesting. Let me go back. And then it's fun because you'll read Proverbs every day and you'll read it 10 different times. And that's where you'll Start learning that word of God is a living word of God.

1:49:38 And you start thinking about things. You're like, oh, I didn't realise it said that. I've read it 10 times, but I didn't realise that it said that. I didn't realise that that meant this, you know, and you start, you know, the Lord starts giving you information and downloading knowledge that you hadn't had before. And it's like, whoa, that's really, really fun. So I'm having a blast with that.

1:49:58 And I want to give that gift to everybody is like, hey, you can't have that gift of, of knowledge and discernment if you just start, right? So start somewhere, start, start reading Proverbs every day. And then you're going to get addicted and you're going to like it. It's going to be fun. You're going to be frustrated when you miss it. So, you know, it was sceptics here at terms like frequency medicine or lethal healing, and they raise eyebrows. So how do you respond?

1:50:26 What's the evidence that you lean on? Yeah, I I just there's so there's so many so much evidence out there in the world right on and do your own research. That's what I implore people to do is like, don't believe me, right, That don't, don't believe anybody, right. And that's what the skill of research that I did learn is the, the media lies to you, the the newspaper you read lies to you, social media lies to you, the music we listen to lies to us. I mean, that's is literally a a propaganda message that's being displayed in the world.

1:51:02 If you go do research on Mockingbird media, I'm not kidding. Mockingbird Media is a programme in the United States that the CIA put out operatives in all of the news organisations. And at 4:00 AM in the morning, they give them their talking points and each one of them have to say the same type of thing in a different little way, right?

1:51:22 So they all say it, you'll hear it on the radio on the way to work, you'll hear it on the news on the way home. You'll read it, you know, maybe hear it, hear one of your friends talk about. You hear something 3 or 4 times, you assume it's true. And so, but that's literally a Mockingbird Media was a programme that the CI created that was supposed to be stopped. And literally just yesterday I read the Tulsi Gabbard that went and see the one that's in our, in the FBI, somebody in our, the FBI literally is, is researching, found out this is mocking Burbinia is still in existence today. It's like, well, and it, and it was supposed to be, you know, stopped 40 years ago, whatever.

1:51:59 So it's clear they what they have an agenda or when the government or indoor whoever these nefarious people are creates his agenda that you just can't, you can't, can't accept that as truth. You have to go find your own truth. So find your own own sources of information. Don't believe Rob on frequency medicine, but I do implore you to go research doctor Emoto, right? Go, go.

1:52:21 And maybe you think he's wacko, that's fine. Go. Did you start doing the research on frequencies? There's so much information about frequencies that you're going to soon discover that then what I'm saying it is more than likely accurate. And then guess what? You start looking at all these other things. You look, look at hydrogen.

1:52:37 Is hydrogen really beneficial? I don't know. Go do your own research. Go, go check those out, right. And then it's like, it's really fun. When you start digging in, it's like, Hey, I'm, I'm not coming at the, I came. I'm probably the most sceptical person that you know, because I, I come into things I'm like, and now it's even worse because I know I've been fed so much false information my entire life that I don't really, I really don't trust a lot of resources. So you, my wife will be so funny. She'll get this social media post or something. She's like, oh, did you hear about this? I'm like I said, OK, I'll take take that in as information, but I don't accept it as truth.

1:53:13 I have to go do my own research. So then I go do my own, I go do my own research and then I'd like say, OK, yes man, that makes sense to me. That's smart, but man, it's frustrating that there's so much bad information out there. So don't believe me, Just go do your own research and have fun doing it. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to disprove this, you know, Rob Renee guy, I'm going to go prove him that frequencies are, are, are dumb.

1:53:39 And then, you know, go do your own research, then come back and let's let's have a good conversation about the yeah, there's sceptics is about about everything. And I'm, I'm OK with that and I accept that. I, I took a world religious class when I went to the school and it was really eye opening. So much fun to see the, all the different religions in the world and how people come up with different, you know, how they have different beliefs.

1:54:00 And I'm accepting of all of that. I'm OK with all of that. Do I believe that the Bible is true? I do I that's what I believe. But if you don't accept it, that's fine. I don't look at you any different because you don't, but I just believe what the Bible says, right? And and the Bible Bible says certain things and and people like, Oh my gosh, the Bible says that you're a bad person because you believe in the Bible. I'm like, Hey, I didn't write the Bible, right. The Bible is is what it is, But do I believe what it is there? Yes.

1:54:26 And so anyway, I love that. I love, I love what you're saying right now because it's actually speaks to something that that happened today. A friend of mine shared a YouTube video with me right? And I don't know if I should call these guys out on what they have done. They literally were spreading a Christian faith propaganda, right? So they put up a video stating that they asked Cha Chipity a couple of questions, right, right. And that's had GPT said.

1:55:06 I don't know if this is going to infringe copyrights, I guess if I don't play the media right, if I don't have the sound. On I think you can talk about it, right? You can. You can. If I don't have the sound on because I do not mind presenting this right, because I don't like people spreading false information, it's not right. It is not fair, right?

1:55:27 Or maybe I shouldn't just give them free publicity? That's true. That's true. It's up to you. But yeah, this the concept though is you're, you're saying that they're using GPT and putting out false information. Yes, so, so these guys says he he put a prompt into ChatGPT and then he asked ChatGPT whether AI has, you know, demonic origins and that ChatGPT said partially true, that OK, what's the origin of ChatGPT said from military research? And if there are evil intentions behind, you know, the AI into chipity.

1:56:10 And it said partially true. And that OK, what's the intention of AI in chipity? It said to control efficiency. And what did you say acts of what's the true religion? And it said Christianity and, you know, as Jesus, the son of God, and it said yes, is anybody who doesn't believe in Jesus going to go to hell? And Touchipity said yes.

1:56:41 And you know, it just went on and on and on to just sort of manipulate people into Christianity. I'm a Christian, right? I was manipulated into Christianity. I have my own personal relationship and personal experience with God. Right, Yeah. You talked about being exposed to other religions and of course, accepting of their faith. And what a lot of people do not realise is if you weren't born into a Christian family, you wouldn't have been Christian. Case closed.

1:57:11 Some other people were born into other religions and that's why they practised that religion, right? And we all need to learn to accept, you know, each other, our differences, right? And of course, all roads lead to the top of the same mountain. There's just one God, right? But it's funny how people will use manipulative tactics to try to spread, well, Christianity. Yeah, I'm very, very upset about this. It's it's not right because I punched the same set of questions into touchipity and touchipity gave me a different string of answers.

1:57:44 So, yeah, would you do that? And you know most people would not take that time to go punching those same questions into touchipity, right? To verify same going back to the scientific method, right, Doing your. Own research, right? You can make a video say anything, right? Yeah, yeah, it's, it's and I, you know, first of all, I'm not going to have AI tell me anything about the Bible, right? I mean, there's lots of things that it could tell me what the words are, what it interpretation is, is I'm not going to take the, I'm not going to take AI's interpretation, right?

1:58:17 I'll take a pastor's interpretation and or, you know, I'll take it to the Lord, right? I'll ask, I'll ask him directly and so I'm not, but I'm not going to ask AI interpretation of things like that are of spiritual nature because chat BT doesn't have a spirit, right? It's not going to understand the spiritual realm that is a real, in my opinion, a real realm that exists. And so you know, I'm not going to ask chat GB to those types of things.

1:58:43 So but it. Sounds like a clown show. You know it sounds like a real clown show. If AI truly didn't demonic, will it tell you that I am demonic? Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, I think that's just people. People, you know what? You, you know why people do that, right? I mean, they, they want, they want the click, they want people to click it.

1:59:02 They want people to yeah, it's because it's 100% clickbait. That's all it is. So, you know, I, I would, I would look at that and I just, I would throw, I would not even worry about it because people are just going to do that stupid stuff regardless, right? So to me, to me, I just, it just goes off my shoulder and I flick it off and like, I love another clickbait people trying to get people to, to watch stuff, right? So that that's just happens in our society, that's what happened.

1:59:30 The comment section The comment section was wild. Yeah, that's why they did it. That's why they did it. They wanted to, you know, I, I literally as part of my business, I, I talked to these people who are, you know, PR people and they're like, there's no such thing as bad press, right? And it's like, so they want, they want, they want to create controversy, right?

1:59:50 And, and they want to put you right in the middle of it. So then then you get all this, all this, this press related to it's like, you know, I just, I'm too old for that stuff. Like I don't want to, I don't want to. So how? Old to die young. Yeah, exactly. God has me here for a perfect. So I'm, I'm, I'm just going to make the best of it.

2:00:11 So how do you balance using strong faith language while still inviting those who aren't yet believers? How do you balance that? Of course, science and religion are like water and oil. You know what, what's really fun though it is they're not science is actually amazing at proving the Bible. So there there there's really lots and lots of scientifical scientific evidence about the reliability of the Bible. My brother teaches this whole series on the reliability of the Bible and it talks about the contextual actual language in the Bible.

2:00:53 You can you can prove it that way. You can prove it via archaeology and the the of how how the Bible is real. You can do it with science. There's lots of science related specific topics that are can be proven in in the Bible and a lot of scientists. Social science as well. History. Anthropology. Yeah.

2:01:13 Right, right. So it's not, it's not oil and water like most people think it is. Because if you, if you really look at it, there's lots of scientific evidence that you. Can't use the right scientific method. Oil and water would actually go. Back there you go. You. Know. If you know, you know. I, I like it. So yeah.

2:01:33 And then just from a generic perspective, right, if I'm talking of a non believer, I, I come at it with, with a love perspective because, you know, I wasn't all I probably was a believer when I was young, but I'm not haven't always believed that I am. I know the answer reading, reading, you know, going through the, the college courses and all these religions that you start questioning yourself.

2:01:54 You're like, wow, I wonder, you know, I grew up in this environment, but what if I would have been born in India, right? What if I would have been what I have done and there's lots of people in, in, in India who are, who are converting to Christianity because they've, they heard the message and heard the word and they, they believe that, that, that, that is true.

2:02:11 And so I think anybody can be converted to Christianity. That's part of the, the Great Commission is to to spread the gospel throughout all the nations, right? And so I believe that's our our mission to get it out there and get people to least understand and evaluate it. But if you're not interested in it, fine, I get it, you know, if you don't want to, if you don't want to understand.

2:02:30 But I believe that it's important for police people to invest because at the end of the day, we all have this innate sense within us that there's there's something else that they were, they, they're created right there. There's something else, right? There is a God. There is something else. It's not just this bag of flesh is, you know, people call it right.

2:02:50 We, we are a human body, but we're, there's more to it than just that There's a soul, right? And the soul is different than the body. And so when you start realising that there is a, a soul and that you start teaching people about that. And then they start they, they're, they're more comfortable having a, a conversation about spiritual things when they can realise that there is a mind body and a spirit and my body soul.

2:03:19 However, however you want to say that term, but it's just just one of those things like, Hey, let's, let's start at the beginning, right? And a lot of people are broken in this world is, is broken. A lot of people down. And when people are down, they're like looking for answers and, and you just need to be there and say, Hey, guess what?

2:03:34 You know, there is, there is hope. You, you have hope. And when you can give people hope, it is amazing. Hope is like the best medicine you can give anybody in the, in the world. And, and God is God is hope, right? And so you can give them, give them hope and give them the, the gospel and you can talk to people about it.

2:03:57 And then it's amazing, right? People are so much more receptive when you're not bashing it, right? I'm not taking this this Bible of mine and bashing on anybody's head like read this Bible, read it, believe it speaking. You're going. You're not Yeah, I'm not. I'm not going to I. Want I want you to go to the book of Hebrews. Hebrews 11.

2:04:16 Hebrews 11. Yeah, chapter 1, chapter Hebrews 11, verse one. Rather sorry, Speaking of hope. When we find it, the numbers are so they're so they're so small on this Hebrews. That's because I'm not in the right area. All right, I'll find it. What's Hebrews? What? Chapter 11 One. Getting closer. Thessalonians, Timothy, Titus, Hebrews say the verse again. 11.

2:04:58 All right, Hebrews 11. Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. Or by it the people old receive their commendation. That's right. I mean, it's like now faith is an insurance of things hoped for, for the conviction of things not seen. Yeah. That's beautiful. That's beautiful.

2:05:20 You give them hope. You know, I'm going to I'm going to put that marker there. It's great. That's why the Bible is so awesome. There's so many awesome things about it and it's something you can just you can study it and you can be, you know, 30 years and you're not going to know it all. But it is fascinating and fun and I just want people at least be ignited and be interested and intrigued.

2:05:40 And people who have a scientific mind they love like the my brothers study because it talks about how archaeology proves it right and how they contract contextual criticism proves it. You can you can prove the Bible in so many different ways. It's like, it's fascinating. Like, wow, that's pretty, pretty cool. I'm I listened to this one audio books. It's called Learn the Bible in 24 Hours. And it's like, Oh yeah, come on, give me a break. But what it does, it's kind of summarise. It summarises all of the all of the things. And one of the areas that he talks about is how much hidden contextual information is within it. From his perspective.

2:06:15 Every single word is in there for a reason. And and they all, they all fit together. And it's like you start looking at the genealogy of Christ is hidden inside, inside one of the gospels. So it's like, wow, well, how is I mean that you start looking at things like that. It's like that's so there's so much research you can do on on the Bible and there's so much, you know, things that people I was on this one gentleman's podcast and it's like is, is podcast is all about just basically bashing the Bible and it was called the Bible says what? And then, you know, he takes everything out of context, right?

2:06:52 And he just said, the Bible says, you know, thou shalt kill your mother or whatever is like, Oh, you're going to kill your mother. You, you know, you is like, come on, right? You got to, you got to look at things contextually. You got to look at them as a body of a whole. Not it just one little 1 little word. But there's so many awesome Nuggets like that. Hebrews 11/1, right?

2:07:14 Is, is an awesome one for hope. If you give people hope, then they can, they can change their entire life. And it's amazing when you get their mind right and they can start having, having that hope and hope can heal. Hope can heal people and heal things and heal relationships. And so man, the gospel is a blast because you can, once you give people hope, they can really transform.

2:07:36 And then once they transform, they can make it a difference around around them. And then when they make a difference around them, guess what? Those people are going to maybe have a difference around them. You can create this ripple effect that can have a amazing impact on the entire world just by you being 1 little person making a difference, giving somebody else hope.

2:07:55 You can have a ripple effect across the world that started from you. That's that's pretty amazing. Wow. So the next question I asked for you is around red flags in Wellness, right? But I like to talk about red flags when it comes to religion and spirituality. You know, some people, or would I say many people are brainwashed but do not even realise it. That's a very big problem.

2:08:22 So it takes a scientific mind, applying the empirical method to understand how to decipher themes, you know, in this world, right? But also when you have that scientific mind, sometimes when you get on the extreme, it's, it can cause some unwanted consequences, right? So I had some associate bride who who told me something really ridiculous someday. And they're like, oh, if you don't come to church, you, you're going to end up in Hellfire. And like that.

2:09:05 So some group of creases that even like that own church is like the only true church, blah, blah, blah. And I made, I made a cheeky joke as well. I was like, oh, wow, really? So you are going to heaven and I'm going to Hellfire. Really. Yeah. Like if you don't come to church, I would end up in the Hellfire and tell us something.

2:09:23 It's a joke for my country. Like, OK, if you die and you go to heaven and you don't see me there, I just know you ended up in Hellfire. Yeah, I like that one. That's good. That's right. Like, Dang it, I don't see him anywhere. That's pretty good. Yeah, I just gave you a detail because in America. It's so hot down here, it's like. That is a gift from Nigeria to America. I give it to you.

2:09:57 I appreciate that. That's a good one. So very good one. What would you say are the red flags in Wellness that people chasing natural health remedies should watch out for? I think it's like man. Because there are a lot of false prophets. There are a lot of false prophets and I'm I'm a perfect example. My, my heart is, yeah, I've been preaching against Western medicine, not necessary to preach against Western medicine, but just saying big pharma is a problem. And they, they control information. They're all about money and they just want the, that they, they, it's bad for the way that you should treat people. You, we should start treating people's health as a holistic thing, right?

2:10:37 We're, we're an entire being. Our body is so complex and made-up of so many things that, you know, I made the mistake of, of when they, when God gave me 4 different messengers to talk about getting a pacemaker. I ignored the first three, right? He gave me 4 message. It took him 4 messengers to give me to me for me to finally listen, right? And he's like, hello, how many messengers do I have to give to you before you listen?

2:11:05 So Rob finally listened and I went and got my heart checked and my heart finally it failed. As I'm on the operation, it was like, that's just craziness. That's just absolutely nuts. And so I look at that now like that's a miracle that I'm alive. I learned a good lesson. You know, I'm going from if you get information from a practitioner, don't necessarily have to believe that practitioner get a second opinion, right, right, get a second opinion.

2:11:31 But but then maybe you should listen to the second and or the maybe a third if you're like really, really stressed you. Can't, don't do what I love to say. I, I, I always love to say you can't have a hot trick of mistakes. You know, in the professional world, it's, it's very rare. A hat trick of mistakes.

2:11:48 That's three in a row. I know. That's three in a row. Yeah. And I almost made that mistake, right. So I learned from that. So just I think it's important to and you need to treat the body as a whole, right? There's a people are going to say, oh, you're I'm a heart specialist and this is this is what's going to fix you.

2:12:03 But where it may have been a liver problem, right, that's causing the reason why your heart hurts or whatever the the condition is. So just look at your body as a holistic being and don't don't believe there's too many people out there is like this. You need to use this and cancer is a great example of Oh my gosh, the fact I was on AI was on a show just the other day where they they great Christian show and the woman woman's like, Oh yeah, you have cancer.

2:12:30 Well, here if you take ivermectin, it's going to kill all parasites and on cancers, all parasites. So I was like, she has this misunderstanding of, of cancer that she's she in her mind interpreted all as a parasite. And now there is evidence that, you know, some people misinterpret some cancers as as parasites.

2:12:51 So that's, you know, a small percentage of that is what she's saying is true, but it's not true for everything, right? And she in her mind is like, oh, you have cancer, you need to take iromectomy because it's a it's a parasite and it's going to kill it and then you're going to be fine, you know, and that's just not, that's just not the case.

2:13:07 But that's not. That's not and. Yes. Everybody has these things, the remedies for you, for you. But what I'm finding is it's our body is so complex and our genetics are so interesting. My specific cancer is different than the next person that has my specific answer. And so in the way the reason I got it is different than the reason why somebody else got it.

2:13:32 So the way I need to treat my cancer is different than the way they need to treat their cancer. So it's an effective analysis. Yeah, it's really important for you to not just take, hey, well, it worked for him, it's going to work for me. That might not necessarily be the truth, right? Because your body may be the reason why you have what you have may be different than what the other person that has the same exact thing as you. But the way you're going to treat it is different because your body's different, your genetics are different. The reason you got that the issue is different. And so you can't look at it just as a black and white thing. Medicine is, is a puzzle and it needs to be be put put together appropriately.

2:14:08 But you need to go back to the basics, right? The back to what? God made this body incredible, right? We talked about water, we talked about nutrients, we talked about gut health. We started talking about things like that. You can start healing the body from the core by doing those things. So just if people just say they have the magic pill, right, don't believe me?

2:14:28 It's not it's not true, right. This supplements not going to fix everything that people are trying to do. It's a great supplement can help you a lot of things, but you know, there's so many other things that you can do that just red flag perspective is do this only, you know, only do this for this. It just almost doesn't ever work anymore. So what is different about building Exodus Strong compared to your prior corporate ventures? Oh my gosh, it's just, I, if you told me 5-6 years ago that I'd be doing what I'm doing now, I said you're absolutely nuts. There's no way.

2:15:03 I hated talking about my faith. I hated talking about health because it's something that those two or two areas I didn't understand. I was a corporate executive selling enterprise software for goodness sakes, right? I was, I was selling, you know, solutions that were hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm selling the large corporations, the biggest corporations in the world.

2:15:23 I'm in their positioning our products and why they're so good and how it's going to help them. I had no knowledge of religion. I had no knowledge of healthcare. I had no knowledge of of the human body and how it's made-up and I just didn't understand any of that stuff. So if you would have told me, I said what I'm we doing that how in the hell how is that possible, right?

2:15:44 And it's only because the God orchestrated that way, right? He orchestrated everything in my life to be here. He trained me on everything when early on, he trained me about nutrition, right when I was a youth athlete. That was what really important. Then in my corporate career, he taught me how to communicate with people.

2:15:59 He taught me how to be not afraid. Just get in front of a group of senior executives and have a conversation with them. They I put my pants on the same way they put their pants on, right. They just because he's the CEO and he has billions of dollars, he's still a human being. I'm a human being.

2:16:15 I have no, I'm going to have a conversation. Well, I'm going to explain to him why my product is, is good and why, why he's, it's going to benefit him. And to have that confidence and have that conversation was a skill set that God trained me on how to do. And then guess what? He's like, OK, boom, now you need to go learn about medicine. You need to learn about health and boom, you know, and then boom, I got cancer.

2:16:36 He's like, OK, now I need to learn about oncology, right? I want you to understand how this works. And then what are you going to do with this, Rob? And how are you going to help people? And that that's where now I'm in that whole reverse things like, OK, I've been learning about all natural health and interviewing all these doctors. And I'm not a, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a practitioner. I don't want to be, I don't want, I don't pretend to be. But what I do want to do is I want to give people hope. I want to give them that they can get better. You can get well.

2:17:01 And there's lots of resources for you. And I've spent the last five or six years going through the same thing that you just did. I just going through this battle, battle of cancer. Look what, here's all these resources I've been able to gather, you know, utilise these resources to help you, right? And that's what I think my mission is, right, is how can I just collect this, these sets of information to be a big value to people?

2:17:25 And then guess what? It's going to make a big difference on them. And then I, I'm going to introduce my faith as part of that discussion just because it's so it's so critical to who I am as a, as a human being. So how do you get it? Recharge your own battery when the mission becomes heavy and resistance is constant.

2:17:46 Yeah, my, my wife is just beautiful. She's such a wonderful soul that, yeah, without her, I would be, I would be in big trouble because happy. Wife, happy life. Yeah, I mean, she's just amazing, right? She's taking such great care of me with my, with my cancer and, you know, literally I'm going through this process where she needs to wrap my leg almost every day. I have lymphedema, which is just an inflammation of my, my leg because my, my tumour is, is plugging up my lymph node. So my, my leg isn't, you know, the fluid get stuck in my legs. So we had to wrap it ever every day. And it's like, wow, what a pain in the butt, right? For me, a pain in the butt for her. And it's just like, she's such

2:18:27 an Angel. That's just like, wow, she just doesn't, doesn't complain about it, just helps me. And it's like something that's just like, wow, she's signed up for something. I feel really bad that she is having to do, but I love her to death for that's I just recharged my battery. Just being around my my family and the realising through this help journey that that's really what's important. All the money, me and all the things, materialism, that nothing means anything to me.

2:18:55 What means anything. Means. My relationship with God and my relationship with my family. And then how can I make a difference in this world that those are the things that are important to me And that's way different than what it was, right? Ten years ago. I was all about making money and all about build, you know, raising myself in the corporate ladder and how am I going to be, you know, have this car, I'm going to have this house. How am I going to have this?

2:19:18 And it's like everything I meant about what I was going to get right instead of what am I going to do? How am I going to help people? And it's been a crazy, crazy transformation in my world is now I'm going to nothing. None of that stuff matters to me. But what does matter to me is, is my relationship with God and my relationship with my family and trying to help other people.

2:19:39 So that's that's all that matters to me. Wow, wow. So what is what might achieve you? Would love for our audience to adopt going forward starting from today. What mindset shift Yeah, is just just to know that they they're you you're on this earth for a reason, right God has you here for a reason. So go, go find out what that reason is and then whatever mechanisms you do to choose it, you'll have that mind mindset that that you know God is good and that he has you here for a reason.

2:20:14 So you have hope. You always have hope and there is breath in your lungs because. You are here for a reason. So that's that's the mindset shift. Let's get shift from me, me, me, me, me thinking about just me. Let's talk. Let's talk about what impact you're going to have on the world that then then when things become not about you, the world starts becoming a better place because we're all here to help. We're all in this together.

2:20:37 We're all here to help other people. And just think about how much of amazing world this would be if we were all looked at the world that way rather than, well, what about me, me, me, what about you, you, you and how can I help you And transition that to change that mind shift to people's like you. You do have a purpose and it is a good purpose. And everything God does is for good that you know, go utilise that.

2:21:03 Do something good for somebody else. Have gratitude. Gratitude is good attitude. That is something I always say towards the end of the podcast, of course. Yeah, we are actually towards the end as well here. A quick queue. I would advise the the audience before you mention it, guys, go visit Exodus trunk com and you know, start, start to journey there. So I'm not going to let you go without putting you through the round of fire, a quick fire segment. Are you ready?

2:21:42 Let's get ready to rum. Let's go, let's go, let's go. I can do it. Quick fire. I'm going to throw rapid questions. You just give me the first couple of words that come to your mind. Are you ready? I'll do my best. OK, so give me one word that defines who you are today. Christian. OK, So what Bible verse do you turn to when you need strength?

2:22:15 I can do the Ephesians right. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Philippians chapter 4, verse 30. That's 19. Yeah. 13 rather. Yeah. Philippians 413. Yeah. I can do all things through Christ that strengthens me. I love that favourite. OK, so faith practise that you never skip.

2:22:38 I never what? That you never. Keep Yeah, that's a great, great question. I would say all of them, you know, in the past, but now, now I don't skip reading the word. I used to used to skip it all the time, but I've totally tricked chains and now that's what I that that's my 1 faith practise. I, I, I, you know I'm going to change it because it's going to be prayer. Every single night before I fall asleep, I say a prayer regardless of where I am, who I am, where, you know, I always will do that.

2:23:07 The Bible says pray without season, you know. OK, so let's talk about health meats and treats. Quick one biggest health myth people believe? The white coat. The white coat is not the answer. That's been the problem, but that's the biggest health myth in the world. We all believe that the white pill, the white coat is going to give us the purple pill that's going to fix us, and that's not the answer to your health. So what's 1 supplement everyone should stop taking? Stop or start.

2:23:40 Stop. Stop taking that. That is the great question. Let me think of one that is just as negative impact on, you know what the the ones that really are bad are the multivitamins because they really don't do anything for you because typically the multivitamins are made-up of really bad nutrients and or not enough of the right nutrients. And it's just you people think that they're taking this multivitamin and it's all just goes out their urine. And so that you need to get the right supplements that are going to give you the right nutrients that your body needs, not just trying to throw everything at it. So be more specific.

2:24:23 Narrow it down to what your body needs. So should I go toss the ones that haven't been? I'll think about it. OK, quick quick daily habit that moves the needle for you. Oh my gosh, the ones we talked about those, those first 5, right? I combine them All in all into one. But that's the, that's The thing is, is water in the morning, getting the sun that those, those are the things that are most important to me. I'd like that.

2:24:52 Don't skip a day if I can. If it's if it's not sunny, I you know, I don't, but I try to do those things every single morning. So what's 1 phrase to describe mainstream medicine? Farce. OK, so what's one thing that sceptics gets right about Wellness? One thing sceptics get right, it's a good question. Everybody's different.

2:25:23 Maybe because that, you know, when you're a sceptic, you're like, oh, that'll never work for me. Just the thing that's the first thing that comes to my mind is at the end of the day, we are, we are all different. And there there is not one one pill that's going to fix fix everybody's condition because we are all different.

2:25:41 There's no one size feet so. They kind of get it right, right? That is, that is true. So what's one thing they miss out that you wish they would ask? That the whole the body is a holistic being that's made-up of all these different complex organisms and things. And we just we think, oh, you're going to go do this and it's going to fix everything.

2:26:02 But the reason why you have that might be because these other 10 things are are out of order. So you got to look at the body as a holistic entity and treat it holistically. We just try to teach to treat it. One thing it you're not going, you're going to miss the boat. And that unfortunately is our society.

2:26:20 Today we go to the doctor and the doctor says, oh, you have this, you need to take this pill. And then that pill causes this problem. And then you need to go another doctor to talk about that problem and that that doctor gives you another pill for that problem. You ended up down 15 different prescription medications and they all have side effects.

2:26:36 So it's just a it's a pill for an I'll society which we need to get away from. So the very final one, Exodus trunk in five words, What's a core promise? It's at the old. You OK? So with that, I say we have actually come to the end of a very, very great session, highly insightful, highly educated and it was fun as well. And of course, like I love to say, gratitude is good attitude from me to you.

2:27:10 It's love and respect to you. You know when a person shares the time with you, they share their life with you because the SI unit for measuring life. It's time for me to you, Rob Renee, the French sound, the name residing in God's own land in the land of the free and the home of the brave. Stay strong, Exodus strong. And of course, I that you get to the promised land. I appreciate you very much.

2:27:42 I appreciate you so, so much. And of course, to our audience, guys, go do the right thing. Please like, share, subscribe and of course, you know, engage with the, the content in the comments section. All of the resources that were mentioned on this podcast are going to be in the description. So go grab out what you need to grab and from Rob Renee, before you get on the exodus of, you know, the next episode, is there anybody you'd like to give a shout out to and what are your parting? Yeah, I mean, I want to give a shout out to the Lord, right? I like literally have to do that because it's like without him, I wouldn't be here today.

2:28:25 I literally am a miracle that I'm sitting here in front of you today. And so I just know that he does have a plan for my life and my life is there to help people. So I'm praying that I add a little teeny value to your life and that you can do one of those things that might help you be be well. And then if you're interested in the faith discussion, there's lots of resources and things that you can do. But just I recommend you start reading Proverbs, right? Just something that's going to be educational for you and something that can be very valuable to you. And so why not, right?

2:28:55 Go read Proverbs. Doesn't matter if you're a Christian or not, go read Proverbs. It's going to be in very insightful for you. And I just am. I'm here to be a warrior for your, your faith, and your health. Wow, fantastic, fantastic one. Speaking of proverbs, I'm going to end with a Chinese proverb. Give him out of fish.

2:29:12 You fed him for a day, but teach a man to fish. You fed him for a lifetime. And of course, I hope we have fed you for a lifetime today by teaching you how to fish. So guys, go fish in the comments section in the description section and of course to like come your way again soon. Stay out of trouble, always believe in yourself.

2:29:32 Always go for something in your life. Try to achieve, you know, conceive belief, strive to thrive and achieve. God bless you guys. Hey man, well done.