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Why AI Could Leave Us Without Jobs (Calum Chace Explains) | Voices From The Future (2036)

Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2026 · 44 min

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By 2036, there is a 50 per cent chance AGI has already arrived, says futurist Calum Chace. Almost nobody is planning for it.Cop a copy of my books NOW: ademolaodewade.comGet paid to help train the AI models reshaping work: Ethos (paid link): agent.askethos.com/refer/nd01w7e2eelw
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Build and test your first AI agent workflows without code: Make (paid link): make.com/en/register?pc=kingdemspodcastThis is Episode 1 of Voices From The Future (2036), a new series on The King Dems Podcast and Diary of a CFO. Each episode asks one of the world's leading futurists, founders or finance leaders what the decade to 2036 will demand of leaders, and what they should do now so it does not catch them by surprise.The biggest risk from superintelligence is not the machines. It is that almost nobody is planning for it.Calum Chace, known to many as "the AI guy", is a futurist, keynote speaker and bestselling author of Surviving AI and The Economic Singularity. He is one of five co-founders of Conscium and its Chief Marketing Officer. Conscium explores whether machines can become conscious and runs an agent verification platform. Before writing about AI, Calum spent 30 years in journalism and business, including at KPMG.Calum grew up on Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke and Philip K. Dick, but assumed human-level AI was centuries away. Then in 1999 he read Ray Kurzweil and realised superintelligence could arrive in his lifetime. Colleagues tired of hearing about it and called him "the AI guy" sarcastically. He kept the name. After retiring in 2011 he fell into writing and speaking about AI, and found the books became marketing for the talks rather than the other way round.In this episode:

• Why Calum estimates 99.9999 per cent of humanity is "sleepwalking into the future"
• The five human revolutions (fire, cognition, agriculture, industry, information) and why AI is not the fourth industrial revolution
• Why AGI is a fleeting moment and superintelligence is the issue that matters
• The "jagged edge": judgement, volition, common sense and a world model that AI still lacks
• Calum's timeline: possibly 10 to 20 years, and a 50 per cent chance of AGI by 2035
• The economic singularity, a term Calum coined in 2016, and why economists must design the post-automation economy now
• Shadow AI and the "phony war": why most large companies have not deployed AI at scale yet
• Conscium's five levels of AI agents and why agents need verifying before and during deployment
• Ademola's offload, extend and elevate model for AI agents
• Host and guest disagree: Ademola argues AI will remain a tool given uneven adoption across Africa and the developing world. Calum counters that this argues for slow dispersal, not against arrival, pointing to how fast smartphones and large language models spread
Calum Chace, futurist and co-founder of Conscium, on superintelligence, AGI, the economic singularity, AI agents and the future of work, on The King Dems Podcast with Ademola Odewade.
More from Calum Chace:
Website: calumchace.com
Conscium: conscium.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/calum-chace-bb68168
Hosted by Ademola Odewade: chartered accountant, author of Human-Led, AI-Powered Finance (foreword by Professor Dave Ulrich) and Founder of K-DEMS Consulting.The King Dems Podcast: Growth Mindset, Leadership, AI and Business Insights. Global top 2% on Listen Notes
Diary of a CFO: Financial Strategies for Smart Business Growth. Global top 2.5% on Listen Notes.Conceive, believe, strive to thrive and achieve.Disclosure: links marked (paid link) are affiliate links. We may earn a commission at no extra cost to you.#KingDemsPodcast #DiaryOfACFO #Superintelligence #FutureOfWork #VoicesFromTheFuture

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