EP 53: No Tuna Fish Dates w/ Joe Budden

0:40 Hey, you already know what it is, man. Episode 53. Let's wrap about it. Brought to you by Playmaker, presented by Promise Picks, America's number one sports picks app. What's happening, gentlemen? Please. Again. Bigfield episode. Yeah, with another guest host in the building. Another guest host, man.

0:59 Another guest host. Yes, man. Joe Button. Shouts to Joe Jump Off Button. Peace, fellas. What's happening, brother?

1:04 It feels funny calling you a guest host because you are kind of like, as far as like it's hip-hop concerned, you're like the godfather of podcasting. The podfather. The podfather.

1:18 So like we get it. It's like OpenSea Weed guess. Yeah. Ice T? Ice T had the first podcast as a rapper, I think. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Shout out to Ice. About what yeah? When Ice started, Ice was doing it, I want to say, when like Combat Jack was doing it. Right, Combat Always. Very early. Rest in peace to Combat Jack.

1:44 I felt like it wasn't profitable back then, was it? It wasn't a business then, was it?

1:48 Yeah, it wasn't this. It wasn't what it is today. Right. It wasn't this.

1:52 Yeah. I feel like it was just like a like people was doing it for the love or something.

1:57 Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was. People doing it for the love. I wasn't doing it back then. Well, yes, I was. I was talking shit, but taking it like a business came a little bit later. With Nori and me and Tax and Right, right, right, right. That whole um, what's the name of Charlemagne's uh network that Loud Loud Network?

2:19 No, no, before then. It was Loudspeaker, I want to say.

2:23 Oh, that was his? Loud Speaker?

2:25 It was him and I might be fucking the name up, but him and them dudes. But anyway, yeah. Beautiful to see what it's turned into.

2:34 Did you see it like our community starting to digest podcasting the way it is when you first started, or if it was or was something you would just in the best case scenario, in the best case scenario, right?

2:47 We come from looking at the sports niggas on the retired sports analysts.

2:51 Yeah.

2:52 And they could do that for the next however many years. I didn't really see MCs having having that same luxury. Yeah, yeah.

3:00 So because I could see that it was a a feel for it. I didn't see it within hip hop. I saw it like, you know, I even look at like what Howard Stern was doing was kind of like a a podcast in a sense. It was it was radio and talking and television, but it was kind of what our shit has evolved to too. So like I could see there was money there for him.

3:22 I I used to see he was getting big deals for his show and stuff like that. So I I I could see there, but I didn't see it like as far as us, our community. I didn't even see our hip-hop audience really looking at it like that. I didn't see them digesting podcasting the way they do now.

3:41 But but let me ask, what was your first show though, right? Because you you you was doing a number of things on the online, right? You was you was you was doing these these vlogs, with we were seeing what you was doing. Remember that? YouTube, YouTube, World Star, right?

3:57 YouTube 07-ish, right? 06, 07.

4:01 Okay, right. But but when did it become a podcast though? Like when did you set sit down and start speaking on a mic?

4:08 You know, calling it a podcast didn't come to, like I said, later, but in terms of just speaking on a mic, soon as I had a laptop, I would be in the room just recording audio. Anything to be another outlet outside of outside of the music. And I was selling that to whoever I was selling it to at the time, and they would put it wherever the fuck they was putting.

4:32 I didn't care, I was gonna check. I wasn't really paying too much mind, but it was good practice. It was good.

4:38 But so you didn't you didn't foresee it though at all.

4:42 Foresee it. I mean, once we started doing it in 2015, when I stopped rap and retired and said, yeah, we're gonna, I'm doing this. And to fully be able to do it, I can't half one foot in and one foot out. Yeah, you see it. It's tough to see it because there ain't no money around. And there's nobody willing to invest in it.

5:03 And there's nobody that really sees and understands the vision nor understand how to profit from it. So at that point, I'm ahead.

5:12 It didn't get it didn't exist.

5:13 No, it didn't exist. At all. No, it didn't exist.

5:15 No profit, it was no sponsor money, it's no ads, nothing, right?

5:21 It's just I mean, you get your ad sense from on YouTube. Right. And if you're lucky, you get a mid-roll, some type of low money ad deal, which is big money back then. So if you got a podcast, you six, six, a six-figure deal, you in good shape. Right. In 2015, 2016.

5:44 Right. So so with that said, and like the evolution of everything that's happening, do you think, do y'all think it's important for black people, black creators to create um studios and opportunities and pathways for everybody to now be able to do stuff like that?

6:06 I I do. I I look at what what this man built here, right? And I think about the the creative aspect of it, right? We you're talking about this dude had a vision to build buses, New York City buses and trains, and turn them into studios, full-blown studios on the inside, right? Fucking uh a streamer train, you got a you got a you got a barber shop, you got a fucking convenience store, uh the nail salon, you got all kinds of shit in here in in one thing, right?

6:39 So creatively, I believe that, yeah, like I think because that creates combustion and it creates opportunity for everybody else. Yeah, I agree with that. Jim, what you think?

6:50 I think that the way uh the industry is right now, this is the next form of like what a record label should be.

7:00 It should be like an entertainment label and a place where people can come be as creative as they want to be. And also watching how these streaming things go, like these kids they be streaming a Saturday house, or they might get an Airbnb.

7:14 But either way, there's real I haven't seen no real destinations for these kids to come stream at and really try to fulfill their dreams in that digital world. And it's just like, well, I'm creating here, and I do believe that there'll be a lot more places like this popping up, and I do believe this place is similar to this in other places and shit like that.

7:33 But as far as New York is concerned, I haven't seen anything like this since I've been doing music.

7:38 What you think, Joe? As far as like pathways and in in studios and stuff like that.

7:46 I think however you can get it and wherever you can get it, get it. Like I love this shit that Jim built here, of course. I love all the content house shit they do in LA. I love the streamer way, which is just y'all, I'm in my bedroom on a fucking gaming chair. Like the creative part is is how you use the tech that's available to you.

8:09 Right. I don't really care about your set. If you got the money to invest in the set, then awesome. Me, I had a couch and a plant and a couple mics and a shoebox. You really didn't have no room to even fit cameras. So you had to build to that stuff. I like just seeing niggas build to some shit. First thing you said when I walked in here is, yo, you look, look different, right?

8:30 Yeah, it look different. It look different, it looks great in here.

8:33 Yeah. Watching, watching how this this culture has been taking off and this whole, you know, podcast genre has been going right. Do you do because it's it's a lot of talk about rappers getting starting podcasts and stuff like that. Do you think more artists that come from where we come from should get into the content space, create shows?

8:55 Do you think that uh yes, but only if they really want to do it. I don't think the niggas just should just do shit just because it's a wave of it happening. But I'm in support of all of the artists, entertainers, actors. I'm in support of everybody getting to it. The athletes is getting to it, they get into it straight from the game.

9:18 So, yeah. Hell yeah. Especially niggas that got fucked in music. Right. Yeah. Right, right. How could you not? How could you not?

9:29 Right, because it it creates a lane where you can still show your personality, right? Even more so sometimes than the music.

9:37 It's also gonna creatively create a tree in a sense. Like I think um what people ignore sometime in hip-hop is artists created trees. Like, so if you say like Jay was at the top of the tree, and then it comes down to Kanye, and then Kanye has good music, and then good music branches out to two chains and big Sean, and I think even down to in the podcast world, creatively that's gonna happen.

10:11 And I think it even happens in um even in Joe's situation where uh y'all split with Maul, they they now have a show, you have a show. Different, everybody is going to have like this tree now of creative from even just in the podcast space or in the content space. You know what I'm saying? Casanat is like at the top of a tree, and he trickles down to you know all of those people.

10:38 So I I think hip hop also had that a lot, and people didn't look at that too, because even down to if you took cash money and it starts with Baby and Slim, and then it goes down to the uh Hot Boys, and then it goes to Lil Wayne, then it goes to Young Money, and it, you know what I'm saying? Then it goes to Drake, then it goes to, you know what I mean?

10:58 It just there's these trees that are happening as well, and opening the doors for more creative lanes as well. Nah, real talk.

11:06 That's definitely real talk, man.

11:08 Shit, I'll add to that. I'll add to what you're saying, cuz I agree. I I see a future where most of these people's kids and grandkids will have no choice but to be in content creation. Why do you say that? Because just the way that the world is going. It's just the way that the world is going. When you look at wherever you want to look at, if you look at music, I like how the independent entrepreneurial niggas project against the majors.

11:40 If you look at the workforce, if you look at the economy, they they saying, if you look at the college enrollments, if wherever you want to look, there's all signs that the world is vastly changing. You either gonna get with the tech or you're gonna get wiped out by the tech. 100%. It's not gonna be no in-between.

11:59 It's gonna be get down or lay down. These kids, they're getting their head start on it. They're born on it. My son could work my phone better, better.

12:08 At age of two, these kids know how to work phones and get some different shit. Like, like it's it's different, a different age out here.

12:15 So, yeah, these kids are just gonna get a different experience. And that's just gonna be a weird way the world is, man.

12:21 Yeah, they they they they coming up with that.

12:24 Like you're gonna need a second job to even, you're gonna need to find something to do on the side to even be able to get by. That's where we at. They're saying in New York, if you make 300 grand, you check the check. That's unbelievable. Absolutely. That sounds nuts. Absolutely. So, yeah, and I think the kids are gonna be smarter than us.

12:47 Yeah.

12:48 So that's just where I see it.

12:50 What's your thoughts on AI in the creative space? Because some people they they rebel against it, right? Oh, this AI is AI. I've been saying, yo, we need to learn this. And better early. We need to get with it.

13:03 Better learn it, get with somebody to know it, be open-minded to the teachings, and and this ain't the time to be stubborn. We real behind. We real behind when it comes to that. And again, it's gonna be get down to lay down. You're not gonna have no choice. It's gonna be like it's gonna be like writing and reading in the future.

13:24 Also, it's also progressing faster than people, um, because now they're saying AI is like teaming up with other AI engines and becoming like stronger AI engines, and and like you just still trying to figure out the one thing, but now it's this shit gonna be like Terminator, bro.

13:42 100%. This is gonna have to be land and machine. They said AI is gonna get way smarter than I ever imagined. It's gonna happen, man. That's what I'm saying. So before it happens, we better use it as a tool. We have to to to to better ourselves. I believe it. I mean, we got to be John Connor out here, bro.

14:02 We have to.

14:03 But you know, we last. Like, if you go to places like China and Japan, they last they living in the future for real. They got a lot of things going on that we don't have out there.

14:13 Right. Japan, um, China, absolutely. They they had it in the game, man. They definitely had it in the game, man. What's what's something that you that you that you manifested though, like manifested in the game, like you watched come to fruition. You really want me to say yeah, what is it? What is it?

14:34 Tell me. What's something that that that Jim Jones manifested and he watched come into fruition? I pretty much manifested my my career.

14:45 I watched, I I I I wanted something, I willed it, I manifested it, I I worked at it, and I and pretty much everything that I've manifested in my career came to fruition.

14:57 What about you, Spizzle?

15:00 What I manifested, what I spoke into existence, um one of the strongest and last things I did was I I really wanted a daughter. So I kept like just really like speaking on it like it was gonna be that I of course you don't you know mean, you know, you can't call it, but like I I I kept it in my mindset like it was that's what already was, and that's how and I had already had two sons.

15:32 So that was one of the strongest things that I like I literally bought things and everything, like I was having a daughter before I even knew I had a daughter.

15:39 Oh, so you was already buying you was prepping? Yeah. Prepare, yeah. What about you, Joe?

15:45 I'm with both of them. I feel like my whole career and family actually was manifested, especially in my 30s, like just having a uh a good idea of what I wanted my forties to look like. Right. And that included the kids and career and just different pivots and shit. I feel like all of that shit was willed.

16:09 Right, that's a fact. That's a fact. I think we agree on all. I think we all agreed, but I I feel like I will myself here. I feel you know, I I use strong willpower and believed, but I also believed in a few other things. And I manifested sex with me. That's my man right there.

16:36 Say it again. Say it again I'm not even joking.

16:42 How did you speak this into existence? Were you still in jail or was it when you came out?

16:46 And how did you prep? Because Fab Fab was uh buying clothes prepared, so you you were you were in jail manifesting, so how would you prep it to um have sex with celebrities?

16:58 You gotta believe. You gotta believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But how would you prep it?

17:02 Back in back in those days, it's like we take the magazine, you know, and it had like little pictures that you you could hang up on your wall. And you was having sex with magazines. No, you mustn't have a sex, you manifest it, you you speak these things into existence. You didn't touch the magazine.

17:16 No, crazy. That's not what I'm talking about.

17:19 I wouldn't know if you tried it out before you actually got the real thing.

17:22 I mean, you had to sit in the cell and like nobody's out of my league. Right!

17:29 I can do this, but I can go. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm yeah, the world, the earth is my turf. I'm gonna do this for real.

17:37 What's your field goal percentage though? So what?

17:40 Out of that manifestation.

17:41 Yeah, yeah, what's your field goal what are you shooting from the field in that? Oh man.

17:45 What's the percentage? You gotta understand my percentile.

17:48 You gotta 60, 60, 40, 50, 50.

17:53 You shooting 73% from the field?

17:55 Yeah, you gotta understand. I was probably like a groupie when I on the on the on the come out. Like, you been on TV before? In the 80s? Come on, you go to.

18:05 It didn't matter. As long as you had a little bit, a little bit, a little bit of TV time. You famous.

18:18 Let's go for something.

18:21 The whole I got to do it for the is there anybody in your manifestation that that that wasn't the connection hasn't been made yet. Is there still people in the manifestation?

18:32 See, I had old manifestations.

18:34 Yeah.

18:35 Okay, those are the old ones. We got new updates. You have new updates. Yeah, like the iPhone. You gotta update your manifestation list. You know what I mean? 100%. So I have a I got I got a I got a new a new manifestation list? Yes. Manifest list. How's that going though? Is the new list? Yeah.

18:57 Currently. It's going.

18:59 I mean, it's some things, you know, take putting a couple of years in the buckets in the basket. Some things now.

19:09 You understand? But the whole the the the cell list?

19:12 Oh wow, oh man.

19:14 Yeah, you can't keep living off the settlers. I ain't gonna lie. It's over. You've been home a long time. Dirty dogs.

19:22 Dirty dog. I forget who I'm talking to. I forget who I'm talking to.

19:30 It's over. That's settled.

19:31 It meant something, though. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was a it was a thing. It's dear to your heart. Yeah, it's dear to my heart. When you mean when I came in, I locked in, I had all these pictures of it. Sentimental. Yes, motivational. It's motivational, man. It's inspiration, you know? But I feel what you're saying.

19:45 It's all good. You know, I'm gonna get my name back. Yo, Payna was hilarious, yo.

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21:26 Check this out, man. Speaking of speaking things into existence, yeah. Heard your boy Hove done spoke his name into performing.

21:36 He couldn't find nobody to do it. No, he couldn't. It was fucking hard. Fuck it, I'll do it. I gotta do this every time I gotta say. He couldn't find nobody. Nobody. You know that. He couldn't call nobody out there. He had to do it. He did it. I want to see Ho. I want to see Ho. Fuck it. It is what it is.

21:55 I'm from Brooklyn. I'm from Bedstar. Yeah, I'm with it too. Yeah, I'm with it. I know he couldn't find who.

22:00 Who could he so hit with it from a hip hop perspective?

22:02 Who who could he have gotten? Joe Button? Who?

22:06 He could have gotten it whoever he wanted to get.

22:08 Who? No, just give me a leaf list of who you think he could have gotten. Rihanna did it a couple years ago already. So three years ago, four years ago. Usher and Chris Brown. Usher and Chris Brown together? Yeah, they on the round. Nah, they on tour. He couldn't got them. Oh, they on tour.

22:28 Usher did it before.

22:29 Right, Usher did already.

22:30 So, all right, so who else? I'm with the Hove move.

22:35 No, but I'm saying, uh, we gotta let the people know that it was it was floating around names.

22:39 They said Justin Bieber.

22:41 Nah, he couldn't get him. Couldn't get him. You couldn't get him. Couldn't get him. You couldn't get him. He was preoccupied. Yeah, what you think? Who you could have got?

22:48 Honestly, if I'm hove and it's my last year doing it, I might go get Janet Jackson, go out with a bang, man.

22:53 Janet did it. Remember, they might not want Janet picture on the nipple.

22:57 Nah, that's why that's why I'm bringing it.

22:58 I don't think Janet wants it like that. Yeah, he couldn't get her. That whole little situation, she got like some backlash. She got the backlash.

23:05 Right. I'm saying that would be dope for him to make that right on the exit. That would be big. I don't think that's happening at all. I'm just throwing shit at the wall. Okay, okay, but he couldn't get it.

23:16 He couldn't get her. So who else you think, Cabo?

23:18 Drake.

23:19 Can't get Drake right now. Can't get Drake right now. Can't get Drake right now. It's kind of touchy. Drake said the jig is up. Can't get Drake right now. He said the jig is up.

23:28 You can't call your ops. Exactly. Yo.

23:31 So it was nobody there.

23:32 He said you can't call your ops. Like, yo, pull up. Yo. Yo. Yo.

23:37 No, that shit ain't about it.

23:38 It's Richie. Shit ain't gonna be a good one. What you doing?

23:43 What you doing around February? Yeah, I mean, who else? Who else?

23:48 Um Wayne? You couldn't get Wayne.

23:54 Who are you? I'm about to ask y'all how many white acts y'all know between the three of y'all. White acts? Yeah. I know Gar Brooks. Y'all ain't got them, y'all ain't said a white man yet, boy.

24:03 Cut his mic off.

24:05 See? His mic out of Gar.

24:07 I'm all for hip hop being an included. We first of all, we were excluded from such type performances for so long. But now we've become a universal language. And don't get me wrong, because I've seen a lot of our culture's superstars perform there. And I've been in the arena, and it was some people looking around like who is this guy?

24:34 Like this, it's it's a different world in that world, in a sense. We home, when we home watch, or even we know these guys, so we're happy to see them, but you gotta think that that crowd that's in there too, they're a different middle of America right there. Yeah. Yeah.

24:52 Middle of America.

24:53 They don't know what we know.

24:55 And honestly, a little of that is gonna be like that with Hove 2. They know who Jay-Z is, but they might not, every single person in there is not gonna be completely. But for us, I think it's a win for us. I feel like it's a win for hip hop. I think even when Kendrick did it, I think that's a win for him.

25:14 When Dr. Dre did it, like, you know, it put it's putting us on a uh a mega stage.

25:19 We definitely on a run right now.

25:21 Hold for him as a career, that's a that's an accomplishment that you know what I'm saying? Why not hold if Kendrick, you know what I'm saying? How did you think he did it?

25:32 You talking about white artists, I know many. I got a plethora.

25:37 Name three.

25:37 Say what?

25:38 Name three. What? He said name three. Atlantis Mars. I gave you one.

25:45 Okay. Um Bro, y'all want to see Atlantis Marsh? I'm you talking about Choice or something like that. Like, what do we do? What are we talking about? Y'all saying just throw out white names. Throw out the name. I want to see Evanescence. What do you what do we just see? Lip biscuit. No, we want to see our people, right?

26:04 No, what are we talking about? Why are we bringing them names?

26:06 No, this is he this is he wanted to know if we even knew.

26:09 Because he got beef with hove on a low. So that's why he, you know what I mean?

26:12 This is what's going on. Beef one hove? No.

26:15 Well no. It's hard to know who you're beefing with lately, bro.

26:18 I don't have a beef list.

26:19 It's hard to know.

26:20 I'm not beefing with nobody. Somebody tell me. But you do beefing off.

26:22 Are you saying are you trying to say are you trying to say that there has been no white people performing there in a long time? Because you asked us, do we know anyway? That's why white artists there in the midst of what are y'all talking about? Because y'all would just name it. Why y'all want white artists back in the in the big?

26:40 I'm not saying that. He asked about white artists in the midst of us talking about. I ain't gonna lie, one of my favorites. I love uh Lana Del Rey. I love her.

26:50 I love her too, but I don't know.

26:52 I'm not asking to see her at the Super Bowl though. I'd like to see Missy too. Missy, Missy? Why don't they do it like a concert? Like bring out like four or five artists and let them do a song. He couldn't get this. He had to do this. He had no choice, man. You think he wanted to do it? He didn't even want to do it.

27:09 He didn't. He didn't want to do this. He had it to do it.

27:12 Listen, I saw Hove in the Bronx, so I'm cool. He can get up there and do whatever he wants. Them Yankee shows was fire. The Yankees the Yankee was lit. Yeah, the Yankees.

27:21 I was at the Sunday.

27:24 I'm glad I saw it here. And I feel like he has shows in Paris and London. I think LA is this week too. Pardon me. But I feel like New York was the perfect place to see it. Like if anybody from out of town came and saw it here, like you're getting the whole New York energy.

27:44 A lot of people. That's that's something that I never saw, though. I've never seen that amount of people come to New York for a weekend for a concert.

27:53 Yeah, it was like an event. It was like you're going to New York, you're seeing Jay-Z and Yankee Stadium.

27:58 People were here for like the weekend, and like that was a shit was like Art Basil Miami when everybody go down there. Yeah, all I saw was Yankee fiddles and Yankee uh uh uh shirts. That's all I saw.

28:14 I felt like it was so many Yankee hats every like it was so much, you know what I'm saying? Just New York pride. Like that's where I wanted to see it. And I and you got to see like people you ain't see in five years and ten years, you know what I mean? Yankees got braised now with the Yankees. Like it was it was a it was a good a good thing.

28:34 And coming off the Knicks winning the chip, right? Absolutely.

28:37 Oh nah, summer 26 is gonna be we're gonna tell be telling your kids and your grandkids about summer 26. You had to be there.

28:45 You had to be there. You had to be there.

28:47 This was a summer.

28:48 You had to feel the vibrations. You had to be there. Definitely. I mean, listen, I don't think I don't I don't think Hole had a choice as far as performing. I think that he was his own he was his last bet his last resort. It was the last bet. Like, man, I got to do it. Fuck it. Fuck it, I'll do it. It is what it is, man.

29:08 Fuck it, I'll do it. Fuck it, I'll do it. Fuck it, I'll do it. That's it's like when you got that that Batman suit, because you know the real one of the things. You got the I got the real one. I got the real one. You got the one that comes with the cheap glass, the break in case of emergency. Bang pal.

29:26 You got the one that's not. But as you were saying, finish your point. What I'm saying is it's like you don't want to you don't even want to do it. You don't even want to put it back on.

29:36 You just want to look at it and remember.

29:43 Sometimes you gotta do your duty, man.

29:44 You ever think about coming back jumping in the studio? Not at all. Ever. Not for a second. Not a split second a thought goes into it.

29:52 Not at all. You don't you didn't when the last time you wrote a rap ten years ago?

29:57 That's what I was gonna ask. Do you even just write even if you don't wanna go in the studio and like you don't you don't have you've lost the passion?

30:04 If I'm in the crib like cleaning or something, I don't think of four bars and spurts, but I won't write it down.

30:11 So you just you just don't wanna like you don't even want at all. Like you don't wanna rap, fuck rap, like you don't wanna like it's not fuck rap.

30:20 It's not fuck rap. Fuck your raps. Not fuck my raps. You don't want to make it rap.

30:25 It just doesn't make sense for you at the lose the passion for it, or do you is that where the disconnection is?

30:31 I always love music, man. Always love music. But to write and then get a beat and then go to the studio and then do the TikTok and then get the broad and then fucking. No, just the the just the the the passion writing it and just doing it and just listening to it for my own listening question. I'm cool, man.

30:54 I'm cool. I'm all right. That might start a trend. That's like that's like stay out the casino. Stay out the casino. You go in the casino and do it one time, you be in there getting your head cracked.

31:08 Stay out the what? Stay out of the casino. The strip club, the what?

31:11 Yeah, same thing.

31:13 Or the stay out the strip clubs, Joe.

31:15 I mean, I wasn't talking about that with me. He said I said casino. I didn't say strip clubs. I didn't say you're going too far now.

31:24 That's a casino. I'm not.

31:27 I blow down quite a bit though. Hold up. I blow down quite a bit.

31:31 But listen, they don't know, they don't know the Joe that I know.

31:34 Listen, Joe was Joe be at the strip club. Nine o'clock. Ten o'clock. Early. Early shift.

31:43 Don't do that. Early shift. I do be early. I do be early. The girls coming in with the rolling bags.

31:50 You get some food. No, the early shift. The early shift is um. Yeah, it's called the game is on. Get a little drinky drink. By the time it starts getting lit, you slide out.

32:02 Yeah, yeah.

32:06 Where am I right now?

32:09 You niggas know y'all got your professional shit going on.

32:12 Here's the main side. That's not exciting, though. It's not a thing. No, it's not exciting. It's not. It's not. It's a different vibe. I I've done it. The early vibe is different. Yeah, it's a different thing.

32:22 It don't give me the same thrill. It's the m the money, it's not even the same thrill thrown to money.

32:30 That shift is not even that. It's not a money throwing shift. That shift that's like slotted across the jump to go.

32:40 It's to get to know our shit. It's to really connect with us. The music is low. Yeah, the music is low. She just got every song at this point.

32:50 $10 a song. I just did eight records, baby. I gotta get the slide of $100.

32:55 You're really trying to build with her. You really trying to build with her. You really because it's it's it's deepened. It's deeper than rap.

33:02 It's deeper than rap, and it's deeper than what you do for a living. You trying to get to know her? I'm trying to get to know you. This is why I'm here early. This why this is why you're here early. You try to try to show up. I'm over here sitting at your at your bar with these wings. This early in your register.

33:16 Lit early. Absolutely. Yeah. But you stay away. So you stay on, you stay away from rap, period. Forever. For now. For now. For now, man. I like that answer. For now.

33:27 Because there's always a I really thought I I really thought you would say like you still write, but just don't. Um because I I still have like, even though I'm not like chasing rap, like I still love to just write and just come up with shit. I don't know. That's just my brain, the way it works. But that's what I thought.

33:49 Just even me knowing your rap style, just being able to be. It's a creative process too. It's also like, you know, you you you're getting something creative out of yourself. You know what I mean? Everybody, we've all hear. Um well, maybe not y'all too, because Remy did say y'all just yo. Remy told them, yes, yo.

34:11 Remy told them they just they was whack before. They just got nice. They just got better. I sat there and watched this the other day. They didn't fight back or nothing. She just let me know.

34:25 We let her have her. We let her have her.

34:27 Y'all got better. I like it. Listen, I'm gonna judge all that right now.

34:31 Hey, man. This is what I told her. This is what I told her. I've always been nice at what I do. You understand? Always been great at what I do. You looked in her eyes and then? No, stand right there. Looked in the eyes. Always been great at what I do. Okay? That's it.

34:50 That's all you need to know? That's it. But when you come up with a line or when you come up with something creatively, like it still feels good. Does does other creative can you get that creative feeling from doing the pod, from doing other things? Or is it just just a separate, different thing?

35:14 I mean, how do y'all feel pod in versus I don't feel like rap? Right and rap.

35:19 I don't feel like when I walk out on that stage, it don't feel like that. It's not the same thing. It don't feel like with when niggas see me in the street and say, you know, but people do now come up to us and say shit about the pod. The pod is heavy. That's new for us, because I'm not used to people coming up to me, you know, praising the pod instead of seeing.

35:40 I'm watching, like I see your freestyles in the different in Jamaica, you over here, you over here. And all them shits is hard. And in my head, I'm saying, if I'm moving around, my days of rapping when I get somewhere, for Nito, I'm gonna be.

35:56 Oh, I don't rap when I get there. I live and do what I do, then I come back and rap what I did. Oh, and that's really the challenge for me. So that's really the creative challenge for me. It's really like, all right, because we've been rapping this long, I could rap any kind of, but now I was like, well, I'm trying to find a way to like challenge myself and be do something that I so now that's what these it's like location raps, drop the low raps.

36:24 I'm like going places, I'm talking about what I did, and it's like challenging to me because I have to really talk about and and really let you kind of experience my trip through this rap. So that's really what that is for me, too.

36:40 It's like don't get now, don't get it twisted. I think if I picked up a pen, I don't think I'm far from where I was. I think I think niggas would think niggas rather.

36:51 Well, some people, not everybody. But a lot of us get better as yes, a lot of people went bad. But a lot of us as a time, I don't I don't think it's a display.

36:59 Wait, niggas that was nice went bad?

37:01 Niggas that was, I think niggas, some niggas that was that's nice and bad. Right. I think some niggas lose a passion and they kind of lost their case.

37:08 If you lose the passion, you're gonna go bad.

37:11 Who was nice and went bad?

37:13 The descent who else? Damn.

37:20 I'm just saying that the the the the deep let me shut the fuck up. Because everybody they don't want me. You know what? I'm saying just the skill of rap. Not record sales, not nothing else. I'm saying the skill of rap. Am I right or my wrong?

37:42 I don't think it's a bunch of niggas that was nice that went bad.

37:46 I just said one thing specifically. Am I right or am I wrong?

37:51 You said with the skill of rap.

37:53 Yeah, but I said one person specifically. He's saying it's hard for that to happen. You think he got better?

37:57 I I believe you too. I do think if you don't have it any more than that. No, I'm saying, do you think he got better?

38:02 Oh, I don't, I I disagree with your 50 cent point. I don't know.

38:04 You think he got better as time went on?

38:08 I don't feel like his gift was in his lyrical ability. I don't I never like that.

38:14 But did it get better as time went on?

38:20 No, not better, but I don't I don't I never I don't think he fell off. I don't think he ever went, I don't think he went bad. I think his skill level, kind of like what I'm saying. I think if he goes in the studio, like when he do that TV show shit, I know that y'all got what y'all got going on.

38:37 No, we don't, no, no, but this is straight.

38:39 But when he does his TV show shit, I think he could go in there and write so that we understand more theme songs, Michael. Oh, okay. We don't even believe what you're saying, nigga.

38:52 We don't believe what you're saying. I'm telling you something. We just talking about the skill of rap.

38:56 You like the power theme song, nigga.

38:58 I love the power theme song. That's all I'm saying. Love it. I love some song structure and all that. Got it. Making records, got it. I'm talking about the scale of rapping. Did it get better? Depend.

39:12 I think the niggas that are nice get better. I don't think the the niggas who have who have a niche or just have like a style or the image or that don't be getting better. I'm dead ass serious. That's not even a joke. Like if you nice, if you're if you were lyrically nice, you get better. You can get better.

39:36 You're seeing more. You're your your vocabulary, your it is you can get better. I think even just if you keep continuously, I think Jim is one of the most improved. And not to say, I'm not saying like how Remy said it yesterday. Y'all let them fucking emphasize. Y'all let the fucking telling y'all that was whack.

39:59 You sit here like, yo, I can't believe y'all would have never let Dave say that to y'all.

40:04 What's wrong with y'all?

40:05 You see what I said. First of all, I like when somebody said to me, yo, you yo, you got better. Like you, you, you got you got better. You doper. Like you, I like that because I think that's a testament to to you really put your name.

40:19 Yo, she told us nigga he was never nice.

40:22 She never said that. She never said that. Yeah, I think. So what? Damn. Yo, bro. This is because Jim was trying to get nice too. I don't know why he told us. We did a battle trying to get nice. We did a big place that Jim was trying to get nice too. That's what she was alluding to. We got there. She was we was around.

40:45 On the show.

40:46 She came to our house and went crazy. We was around. It's cool. By the end of the episode, we had to end the shit. We had to end the episode on the chip. Shut the mic off. Yeah. We had to shut the show off.

40:56 She came in here with a shotgun, an automatic shotgun. She was like a shotgun with a switchy on it. She was.

41:03 Meanwhile, with me sitting here. With me sitting here, right? So, but she's going to them two. So that's even making it worse.

41:11 Like, so it's like she trying to, I'm sitting here, I'm just waiting for them to chime in. I say, man, you got to battle Remy right now on the spot.

41:19 Listen, first of all, I'm one of the I'm I've always been a nigga that was underrated. I felt I always felt like I was greater and better than what niggas gave me the credit for. Songwriting, being able to still be in a game for a certain amount of time and being able to make songs, right? So I'm used to niggas always looking at me and not giving me my credit for many things.

41:44 For many things. I'm used to not being on no list. I'm used to niggas not thinking I'm good at many things. I've always been the underdog. So it was it's nothing to me. Because I almost relish in that position because I know I'm gonna always show up one way or another. Give me give me something. I just did that just now.

42:10 I don't even know. I just did that. I don't even know.

42:12 I was about to engage, but it just didn't make any sense to me.

42:16 I do think you've improved with your work ethic. You've kept, you've, you've no, you got nicer too. You've got your your work as you as you kept going, like we all are listening and can say that this I know many of people have told you this.

42:34 But when you say work ethic, you you talking about how work him keep keep keep working, keep rapping, keep progress. Like you don't just get better like that by happiness, not a good thing. You gotta keep going. Like, it's work, it's work being done. Oh shit, she was here. But listen, let me tell you something though, nigga.

42:56 Let me tell you something. Listen, listen.

42:58 Let me and here's another thing that I left out. I wasn't no rapper, nigga. I wasn't no rapper. You understand? I wasn't supposed to be here. I'm not a nigga that was supposed to be here. Tell him. Say what? You you know, I'm I this, I'm a I'm a I'm a national treasure, nigga. I should be protected at all costs because I'm from a whole nother era.

43:27 I'm niggas, my my content ain't here.

43:29 Why you ain't say none of this shit to Remy? I just thought of it.

43:34 That's what I was waiting for when uh yeah, yeah, it just hit the niggas sunk down in the seat. Joe was like, JB, can we give it a playmaker the prospects? Uh thank y'all for having us.

43:45 Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you got to go back. I didn't like it.

43:51 I didn't even like it even after she was excluding me. I didn't like it at all.

43:54 It's like we gotta get what's we gotta get warmed up and just started.

44:01 Yeah.

44:01 It's all good. First it was just me.

44:03 It's just like what I wanna do. Like, what them what do we we gonna do? I got I got every album I came out with was golden bell. I'm cool. It's all good. The next Lobby Boys album is for Remy.

44:16 It's for Remy? You just gotta go with her next disc records. Yeah, this records, yeah. Yeah. Heavy on the L cell, you heard the D fee in the heavy. Oh my god. Let me go with the D Fey.

44:33 Easy, easy, big dog.

44:36 Professional athletes start relying on their per personal medical team. What's trying to do? What does that even mean though?

44:44 Professional athletes start relying on their personal medical teams. Well, what happened? This is stemming from what? It's stemming from Jalen Hurts finding out that he had blood clots in his well, first it was in his leg and then it was somewhere other places.

45:11 That happened to my cousin. Yeah. My cousin died from that. He was playing basketball, hurt his leg, got on a plane. He didn't know that the injury that he that he incurred had caused like a blood clot. He went on a plane, and the pressure from the plane made the blood clot rise between the valve, between his his his lungs and his heart.

45:34 And when he got off the plane, he wound up having a heart attack and he died. Sorry to hear that, man. Yeah.

45:40 So they say that that they're saying that the his his team should be out in death.

45:45unknown Like he's out in the death.

45:46 Yeah, he's out for the season. He's out for the season.

45:48 So what where is the personal medical teams coming at? Do you not saying that?

45:52 They're saying should athletes have personal medical teams besides what the team. Because the teams, to be honest, they are you know looking out for you, but they're also in the best interest of the team. I guess that's what it's kind of implying.

46:04 So should you have your own insurance-wise, all that? But as far as an athlete, I think that you should invest in your body anyway.

46:10 Like you should pour into your body aside from what the uh team that you play for is doing for you.

46:15 Like if that's invest in your body, like what? Like they be saying, the brawn before people or brawn do all types of things.

46:22 I think certain athletes can do that. I don't think every athlete can do that. Jalen Hurts probably is an athlete that could do that because he's the the a league quarterback for a Super Bowl winning team. But every, you know, the linebacker for the San Diego Chargers, he can't have his own, he can't maybe afford his own medical team and staff like that.

46:42 But I think for Jalen Hurts, if we speak in directly to those kind of players, I think they should. It's like it's like you having somebody double check your books or in a in a sense, you know what I mean? Like 100%. If I got the team doctor saying one thing, I might go to my doctor and still check check behind myself too.

47:04 And this game, I think, was the London game or the Australia game or some shit. So we don't know. We don't know, yeah, if there's a flight. We don't know what doctors is looking at and what it looks like over there. It's a lot fuzzy with it, but he shouldn't have been able to go out there and play, that's for sure.

47:21 Keep and telling him play stay for 36 hours, then get out on the field is wow.

47:27 That's great. God bless him.

47:32 So the NBA season is back. Um, of course, the big question is is the Knicks going back to the finals?

47:39 Yes, they are. Of course.

47:40 Was that a rhetorical question?

47:42 Yeah, you just you I mean, we have to ask that, but of course. 100%. Yes.

47:47 Um, I think we gotta run it back, man. I think um we sick we still got the same chemistry. We still got the squad. Um, we added Andre Drummond to the to the to the mix. You know what I'm saying? Uh I saw him in the first games like getting a lot of rebounds, being a great addition to the Knicks. So uh I expect them to at least make it to the finals this year.

48:10 Absolutely.

48:11 I mean, looking at the past from other teams that have gone back to back, those teams usually had the same team from this this from the from the year they won the championship the next year to win the back-to-back um championship. So I think that the fact that we still have that same chemistry, like Spiz was saying, we definitely, definitely gonna touch the finals.

48:35 I agree. Of course we got Brunson.

48:37 Yeah, I say more on Brunson, man. I think uh that's the captain of the team right there. I think he leads the way in him excelling and him scoring and him, you know, being a floor general is always gonna keep the Knicks uh with some W's to me.

48:52 Right. I think he's gonna step up. Like I mean, he should come through like he usually do. So I'm going more with Brunson on everything. Yeah, I believe he's proved he's proven himself uh in his past few years leading up to the championships.

49:04 I don't think that it's gonna stop. I think he's just gonna keep progressing. So I'm definitely gonna go more.

49:09 One of the one of the things that alerted me too is uh, you know, the Knicks being able to get rebounds, offensive and defensive. Um when I saw the first game, I felt like they weren't getting a lot of rebounds. Do you think moving forward cat should should should apply to get more rebounds and and or play the position of where he is, you know, shooting threes uh or from from from from being on the outside versus being on the inside?

49:44 Do you think he's we need more rebounds?

49:46 I like I like the threes, but I also feel like we need them on the boards. Um I think he will adjust though, because even with you know, um last season, I feel like he was you know, he was he was hitting those boards though, you know. So I think he'll do it though. So I'm I'm gonna go with him actually adjusting and in and getting those rebounds.

50:08 Yeah, I would say that. I mean, I encourage the threes because he he's turned into more of a versatile player than ever.

50:14 It adds a dynamic to his game.

50:16 Those threes is different, too. But last three is deep. But from from what we know him to play, I think us needed more rebounds on him, also adds more points to the to the to the uh score. So it's like we definitely need him to be. Also gives more second chances. Yes, more rebounds. I'm going for that.

50:35 When did you realize as a black man that making regular doctor appointments was important? When you start getting old.

50:43 This would be good.

50:44 When you start getting old. I did a I'm doing like a uh I'm doing like a partnership with this um like they doing, they come in a city to city to give black men wellness checks. So like they checking your heart, they're checking your blood pressure, they checking, you know what I mean? Like, and they they doing these events just to and using me to like help bring people out, especially of such age.

51:14 You know what I'm saying? Because at an older age, you need your blood pressure checked, nigga. Like you need your heart checked, you know what I mean? And people love this their slogan is um get checked out, not checked in. So basically being proactive instead of reactive, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people go to the hospital to a doctor when something's wrong.

51:37 But if you're smart or you want to live, you're supposed to be gradually checking your health throughout the throughout the year. So I'm I'm I'm fully for that, especially for black men. We come from very crazy backgrounds and crazy uh uh uh food. Habits. Yeah, habits. Like we come from different worlds, so I think at a certain age you have to tap in and just you know, get regular checkups.

52:09 Oh shit, for this, for my birthday, for my 50th birthday, like I was telling y'all, I wanted to do a series of checkups, not just like not just the regular uh physical, like I want to check my eyes, I want to check my feet, wanna check.

52:24 Even went to the uh heart doctor. Dr. Puma, yeah. You checked it before you got the boot.

52:31 They ain't tell you nothing was shaky.

52:35 They ain't tell me anything that I and I'm good. I went to the doctor today actually for my foot, so I'm excited. But nah, I believe that a black man or any man should take uh trips to the doctor, frequent trips to the doctor to check on itself and make sure to see where you at and check your levels and things like that.

52:53 I wouldn't have known that I was pre-diabetic a couple years ago if I didn't go to the doctor and be getting my regular physical and shit like that. I would have been still eating candy and having these crazy food habits like five percent, probably be full diabetic right now. So I'm grateful for being out of that.

53:12 What do you think, Joe?

53:14 Honestly, for real, for real. Joe acts like he don't believe in doctors. No, he's homeless. I'm all the way on the head. Dr. Seven all the way on the health and wellness wave. There's too many niggas, black, especially entertainment, between the ages of 38 and 55. And shit is getting younger now.

53:35 You wouldn't be hearing like niggas be catching heart attacks in like 35 and shit like that.

53:40 You'd be like, yo, what the fuck? Rest in peace, beat king. Beat King was 38, 39, my man. Like, it's people that's that's going for issues that you feel like had they known about it. Like, people are young, man.

53:55 Some of it is cocaine, though. Okay. You do know that. Yeah, cocaine is always involved. Sometimes it's cocaine usage. Maybe a little crack.

54:08unknown Okay.

54:09 What? Not crack.

54:11 My bad, my bad.

54:13 You talking about cocaine. That's a gateway drug. I thought everybody let my bad.

54:18 I'm gonna stay out of bed. No heartfelt segment is safe up here.

54:21 Yeah, just slow now. Just easy. My bad.

54:25 But like y'all were saying, the blood pressure, check your heart, go get the full body MRI shit, go check your prostate. I know niggas don't want to hear it, but all of that shit. What is it? Colosopy, how you say that word?

54:38 Colonoscopy. Colonoscopy.

54:42 So y'all be nervous when y'all um, like when y'all waiting for the results to come back, or y'all just be like, cool, uh, which results we talking?

54:51 Anyway, the results you was doing that you get back. Thank you, Jesus. I got a little moment.

55:09 I'm not gonna do nothing. The fuck is the I'm please. I'm gonna do nothing. I'm I'm so good. Yes.

55:22 Which test was it?

55:24 So what?

55:25 Like what was what was the test that you was a little nervous about?

55:34 So what? No, I'm saying test in general. Like, you know, test the fate.

55:42 Yeah, just the test in general, like blood pressure. You know what I mean? Check my heart, I'm good. I'm good.

55:53 Yeah, everything, yeah. Everything working right. Yeah, I'm fortunate though. I ain't I never had no ailments, no, nothing was wrong with me. I I'm just never had no surgery. I'm I'm really blessed. And and Dr. Puma, shout out to Dr. Puma and Sorin Medical Labs because he he's like um one of the top cardiologists, and I got a relationship with him.

56:15 Jim went to see him, I got a relationship with him. Jim went to see him. Pull went to see him. I sent a lot of people to him. I saved a couple people's lives too, because a couple people had issues with their hearts, and he got the scan. He could tell you if you're susceptible for a heart attack or like a stroke in like 10 minutes.

56:32 That shit is crazy. 10 minutes. I went there, did it, and then like I gave him my labs, check me out. He was like, yo, bro, from looking at your labs and looking at you physically, I would say you're like in great shape. But then when you looking at your heart, like it's a couple things we need, like something I see that we might need to work on, which is something you can't tell by being in shape and shit.

56:54 Like whatever I know to do with the heart. So I was grateful for that too. You know, I've been smoking for most of my life, so in that part, yeah. No, you gotta you gotta stay up though, because a lot of times in our community, we we we wait till a problem happens, and then we we believe in in cure over remedy.

57:19 So is it yeah?

57:21 I was a little nervous though, I ain't gonna lie, what like what Spiz was saying when I went to see Dr. Puma after they did all the shit and I had to wait there for like I was I was a little nervous. She had me a little nerved.

57:32 I think everybody should go see Dr. Puma though, just because of that technology he got quick, real fast.

57:38 You can get nervous now because you just at the age where some shit pop up now, then that's what it is. Yeah, it's something. Like that full body MRI today versus the full body MRI like in your 20s, dog, night and day, dawg. I think I started screaming that shit the last time. Dank this out. What the fuck, bro?

58:07 That slides you in there. Yeah, enough. Yeah, enough of this, man. Because if you move, they gotta start the shit over.

58:14 Oh, right, you can't move.

58:15 Yeah, dawg. Oh my god, it was a mess. But that's also one of the things that hinder people from uh going to get checked, too. Like, just because they don't the fear of the doctor coming in there and closing that door behind them and be like, let's sit down and have that talk with you. Like, people don't want to go, people would rather just be oblivious to it and just deal with it when they instead of going and get checked out.

58:46 That's how, that's how, you know, these situations happen. There's a lot of people who be sick and we we end up seeing them pass, but they knew they were, you know what I mean? They found out and just kept living the way they was living.

59:01 That's just mental too. Like, there's a lot of people that live a healthy life, run around, everything's good, and go to the doctor, find out something is really wrong.

59:10 And then the next day, they're living life like you could tell, like there's a whole drastic change in them when just yesterday, they was just living like everything is alright. So that that mental capacity could really Right.

59:21 That's another thing. You said that's right. Mental health. Mental health is important. Are you okay, Joe? Yeah, I'm cool. No, are you all right? Joe, we gotta Joe. We gotta ask them if he's okay. My brother gotta make sure. Are you okay? I appreciate it. But you asked my men like that. Mental health, nigga.

59:42 It's very important.

59:42 It's very important, and we don't ask each other all thinking everybody's alright.

59:47 And yeah, it's all right. Are you okay, all right, brother? I'm great. You good? I'm all the way good. Good, right. You gotta invest in yourself, nigga.

59:56 Are you okay? Are you cool? I'm you cool.

1:00:01 I might not be having a time of my life, though. He's not okay, Joe. This nigga definitely not okay.

1:00:10 Yeah, he looks okay to me. Fucking right. He's fun space from one cycle to another. Exactly. I think you gotta invest in yourself. I think that's what that really is. Going to to the doctors is is really like seeing it as like I'm the only one that could take care of me and worry about me. So let me invest in just just myself, you know what I'm saying?

1:00:36 And make sure that I'm good. You know what I mean? You don't you don't want to wait again, you don't want to be uh uh reacting instead of proacting. And and that's what you know being a part of that um that that that wellness event has has showed me. Cause I just was like on the same time and like I was on whenever I get a chance to go, but it's the it kind of woke me up that you know what you we getting older, we're moving around, you you know what I mean?

1:01:06 You gotta get into your prevention bags.

1:01:09 You gotta catch it early before you actually catch it and it's too late, and then you can't even. That's what I'm saying. That's put you too. That's why you get in your prevention bag.

1:01:15 Shit. You know what else will get you together when when you had them talks with the life insurance people.

1:01:22 Oh, yeah, we talked about life insurance. You gotta have life insurance.

1:01:25 Yeah, but that talk it'll get you together. They gonna they're gonna ask you some questions about your lifestyle. Yeah, and and then to just know that somebody else can put a projection on when you're supposed to clock out versus how you're living. It's like, okay, it's okay, time to do some things different.

1:01:45 What's crazy, even they projection ain't because the shot clock is invisible. You really don't know, you know what I mean? There's certain people that checked out that was living correctly and doing the right thing. So, like, you gotta really just again just invest in yourself and make sure that you're taking care of yourself.

1:02:03 You know what I'm saying?

1:02:04 Also, the results and live to the fullest. Retirement funds. You start talking about money that you can't touch for 20 years, 25 years, or whatever the fucking number is. It's like, oh shit, like niggas where we from, I told us we'd be dead by 21 or 25 or whatever it was. Never had to think about that.

1:02:21 Having the picture into your fucking when you 70 or 69 or some shit, it's like it changes your priorities, it does.

1:02:30 We had this conversation too. Um Capital and East didn't believe in life insurance. Yeah, they didn't believe in life insurance.

1:02:35 They don't believe in life insurance. I told them we we need life insurance, stuff like that. It's you know that's the the the thing to do, you know. Especially East. Yeah, they didn't believe in it because they think that having them type of conversations is like I don't know.

1:02:49 I go through this conversation all the time. I at home, I kinda I kind of bowed out to it like I'm like ready to commit to it. It's definitely uh an important subject inside the house.

1:03:03 We gonna clock out, bro. We out of here. Don't put me in your weed. No, nigga, we out of here. Just understand.

1:03:10 We can go to a trip. Don't put me in your weed. I'm like you do.

1:03:13 I'm just saying, generally speaking, we ain't none of us gonna make it out of here alive. So let's let's let's do what we're gonna. Let me figure that out.

1:03:20 So what let me try first.

1:03:23 Okay. I mean, even if we live to be 175 years old, it's still But let me try.

1:03:31 Okay, that don't even sound appealing, yo. Yeah, nothing about that sound funny. 175 on Earth. Insane. Now, you talking about like a buck 75 in your bag, like you have to always be in your bag.

1:03:49 Yes. I'm hoping that the by the time we get to 100, they got that new shit going on. That you don't even age no revive, the body, you don't even age bring you back to bring your vibes. Yeah. All that you heard? Right. We got to get a hundred.

1:04:04 They just bring us back from Oconda.

1:04:06 The fountain of you.

1:04:07 100%. I was doing math the other day. If in 20 years, they need to they need to fix something that they said wasn't fixable, it's true. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta get something need something new to the movie shit. You gotta get out. It can happen. It can happen.

1:04:22 You know, all the movies you're going on, bring bring us the good movies. Yeah, yo. It can happen. No, it can. It can happen. It's believable. They probably got it right now.

1:04:30 Don't go before the cure.

1:04:31 You're talking about they're making super soldiers and all this type of shit. Like, yeah, all right. I'm pushing the button. Yeah, whatever that button is. Yeah. I I need to be here for another 200. 200.

1:04:44 200 is crazy.

1:04:45 I'm with it. You're gonna be juice.

1:04:48 Easy, easy, easy on me, juice. We lost out here. Easy on me. 167 years.

1:04:53 That's vampire life for real. I like it.

1:04:55 Let's shift gears a little bit. Since we was talking about investing and investing in yourself, what's the worst investment you think you've you've done since since all this has been around?

1:05:07 The worst investment?

1:05:09 My worst investment was in people sometimes.

1:05:13 That's what I think my worst investment was. Now that you say that, I mean a lot of people investments, bad ones.

1:05:19 Business investments is that's part of a business investment. But people investment comes with effort.

1:05:29 I think people was my worst investment.

1:05:31 I would I'm gonna go with you.

1:05:33 What you think, Joe?

1:05:34 I love that answer. I'm trying to see if I can even think of something else. That was cold. Yeah he did. Because the business shit, that's that's gonna come with his upstats. Who who cares? You you learn something, you learn something even in the failure.

1:05:49 Even when you buy a car or some shit and there's a bad man, you might have had fun in that shit for whatever time you had it. It might have been. Yeah, what's the name? But sometimes with people though.

1:06:00 Car is not an investment anyway, so you already know that it is what it is. I think for me, um pussy. That's my God.

1:06:12 That's my God. Yeah. That could be a bad investment.

1:06:15 It could be.

1:06:16 That's a bad $500.

1:06:19 You gotta stop. You said it was a bad investment. Investment usually comes with money, so I'm saying like that could have been a bad $500 spent. Investment in time and energy, brothers. Your mind gets you. On pussy together.

1:06:32 I love that talk. Time and energy.

1:06:36 Time and energy on pussy don't make sense. If it's an investment, $500 that you said it costs, get the money back, Capo. I can get the money back. I can't get my time and my energy back. That is the that is the commodity. You can't get that worth more.

1:06:53 He can get that $500 back.

1:06:54 I can get that $500. Can't get that nutback pause. I might have called this nigga after y'all had this time. About that scores. I'm like, man, I better not see you with a $500.

1:07:05 Oh shit, that was a low ball?

1:07:07 Better not.

1:07:08 Yes. You'll be embarrassed if you catch him with a $500. They must get this different type of late with a job. Obviously, that's a bad batch. Yo, Joe.

1:07:23 You're not factoring in late nights in LA when you're gonna leave it to the pro when they not when they not soliciting.

1:07:28 Good idea.

1:07:31 When they hit the listen, I'm here to I'm here to, I'm here to that's a good idea.

1:07:36 Yo Joe.

1:07:37 Leave it to the pros.

1:07:38 You're not factoring in.

1:07:40 Nights in LA, when when nobody was soliciting in, but you met you a nice somebody, and things happen. The factors. And then she said at the end, you're gonna look out for me, right? That is code for 500.

1:07:58 That's that's the code for 500.

1:08:00 So anytime somebody does that mess up your mood? Does it change it?

1:08:04 Does it ruin it?

1:08:06 It ruins the mood. You want her to leave fast? Let's take this and yeah. Your whole face change? It's a code for 500. I need 500. That's that's that is.

1:08:14 You're gonna look out for me. You got me, right? It's you're gonna look out for me and you got me. Means 500.

1:08:19 It's a buzz kill because May probably I felt like this was one that really with that.

1:08:32 I thought she understood me.

1:08:37 I thought we connected you got me, but we connected on a different level.

1:08:41 Yeah, she got to go and turn to run like and then turn around and was like, You got me, right? You got me, right? You gonna you gonna look out? That's COVID 500, man. That's a 500, that's a that's a 500 ball. Yeah, definitely. Damn.

1:08:54 Well, don't try it in New York, man. You live a life. If you slide a 500 in New York, she'll stab you.

1:09:00 Yeah, Joe said.

1:09:01 Oh, so is it a different price in New York?

1:09:03 I mean, I wouldn't know.

1:09:04 Speak on it, Joe. I mean, you said you said that she'll stab you if you try to slide a 500.

1:09:10 That's all that from what something I heard.

1:09:12 I mean, so tell us what you heard the price was in New York.

1:09:14 I don't know. I heard it was higher than five.

1:09:18 The going rate in New York is higher than five, man.

1:09:21 500 is the price when she starts taping you when you just leave.

1:09:27 Y'all niggas is fucking up right now. For $500, that bitches in your bed. That niggas is upsetting the resellers right now. That nigga right now. Yo, for $500,000. You know what I mean? The stocks go up and down like it's Wall Street hole.

1:09:49 Yo, y'all going too crazy with the price talks on the pod, bro.

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1:11:34 Right here. You reading to yourself.

1:11:37 You gonna put a mirror in front of your face, matters of fact, while you read this. First of all, I can I'm not that. I am not a professional.

1:11:44 Only when they say you got me.

1:11:46 I am not a professional. Now maybe only when they say you're gonna take care of me. Would you feel insult if somebody called you a professional trick? If that was if that's if that's what I did, I wouldn't I wouldn't feel insulted. I would feel I would feel that's what you do. I feel like a company. But if somebody called you that, you being you, you being Jimothy Jones.

1:12:12 It could never.

1:12:14 It could never the professional is throwing me off. Like what is a professional? I wouldn't want to be in the league of tricking. Yeah, that's that's that's tricking is a yeah, I wouldn't want to be.

1:12:26 That's a tough word. Professional trick, that means this is what you do for a living.

1:12:31 But I think people what people call tricking is maybe not really. I don't know what what is actually tricking though. What is actually tricking?

1:12:43 That's what they like to do.

1:12:44 100%. But when does you when when does it turn you a professional? I don't know. What are the standards to get to to become the into the NBA of the of the tricking? Yeah, somebody called Drake a a professional. So is he like a trick? Like, I don't know. That's somebody's something that somebody said to him.

1:13:00 I don't know if it's a I don't know if you gotta get a award or something. I don't know.

1:13:05 Do you get drafted like to the professional league of tricking?

1:13:08 Like, how does this go about? I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't think it's first of all, what is tricking? Honestly. If you take a female out and go dinner, we like to eat, we like to be out. I don't think that's tricking. We're talking about her.

1:13:25 Tricking is deliberately spending money trying to get some ass. That you might have to do it.

1:13:30 Is a trip of tricking though?

1:13:32 If you want to go on the trip, if you go if you if you if you're going on this trip with the premise of fucking, that's like I guess that tricking?

1:13:39 If you want to go to Tulloon, if you ain't got if you can't get no I don't get no hope, somebody on a trip with you is tricking. I think you sent it to somebody on the Trick. I never even heard of it. That's tricky. That's tricking. That's happening. That's tricky. That's never happened.

1:13:51 Sending her and her girlfriends.

1:13:52 I never heard people on trips. That didn't reach my desk. You get a car, you get a car. I've never made the breast of that yet.

1:14:01 Okay, you had to have heard of that before. You see all of these picks all over the world. You see all of these picks all over the world. You think you think they're getting there? I'm saying that a cancellation has come across your desk as a result of what they're saying.

1:14:20 No, I noted happened to you. You maybe didn't know it was happening. No, no, Joe. No, Joe. Nobody ever tried to get it to you.

1:14:30 I'm not gonna be able to make it like I thought. I gotta run.

1:14:33 No, to me, yes. Flying to me is one thing. Well, you talking about sending them on a trip to go up with who? The girlfriends?

1:14:40 Wherever they want to go. That's what I'm saying, nigga. I'm saying you might have had plans with somebody. Right. And at the last second, nigga, whiz kid called on somebody. And she canceled on you. Yo. Cancelled on you. Somebody's tricking on her. Yeah, yeah. Somebody flew 30 joints out for the weekend.

1:15:01 Now that you put it like that. That's why you gotta always be in the context. And I wasn't talking about it. I didn't know what he was saying. I had to hit him out.

1:15:13 I heard you out. You gotta watch it because now the internet will make you say that whiz kits. No, I'm saying, please clear that up. I was gonna talk about it. Yeah, because you just yeah with just a name.

1:15:22 Yeah. What I'm saying make a point. You right, that has happened. But I'm saying specifically, the Shaw, like, oh hey, babe, I want to go on a trip with me and my girls. Can you, you know, can you pay for it? I like I ain't never heard a nigga doing that.

1:15:36 People do that though.

1:15:37 I mean it's not foreign. I just I just I just never seen it. Like, I I'm pretty sure everything happens in this world, but I've never seen it. Somebody say, yo, I'm just gonna pay for it and go on a trip with our girls. What?

1:15:49 So that means you've never done it. I'm telling you, it's happening right here. Under your girl who's in the scene, somebody might have paid her to come.

1:15:58 If it's your girlfriend, niggas have paid anything to get some.

1:16:01 If this is your girlfriend, then then skies and lemon, you do it up. This is your wife, is your girlfriend. You're not talking about her friend, don't you? Niggas are sending bitches from Starless to Talon, man. That's my point. I never seen that. On your watch. Say what? You never seen that on your watch.

1:16:16 It don't happen on my watch. That's what I'm saying. But it happens on other niggas' watches. It's happening out there, man. It's definitely happening, man. I I I believe that it's happening. I'm just telling you, I've never.

1:16:26 No, I believe you. I know it's never happened on your watch, but I'm saying who they are.

1:16:29 Believe them. Believe them. Believe them. So, but no, okay, so back to the question.

1:16:35 Okay.

1:16:35 Would that be considered professional tricking?

1:16:39 No, I think it's more like you gotta trick seven days a week. Like you gotta really gotta be in it to win it.

1:16:45 That's a one big trick move. You said that on a trip.

1:16:49 If you're a professional trick, this is something that you it's 82 games in the NBA season. You gotta be tricking at least 82 nights out the year.

1:16:58 Jim, you nuts, y'all. What? Yeah, that's a lot of that's a lot. That's a lot of time. That's a lot of time.

1:17:02 This is a professional, this is professional tricking we talking about. Yeah, even the pros get an off day, nigga. Yeah, but they got 82 games though in the NBA in the in the in the season. Yeah, in between games.

1:17:16 It gotta be a certain dollar amount for you to be a professional, I guess.

1:17:19 Oh, it's gauge by the dollar amount, not by how they stayed tricking.

1:17:23 The professional part is just a slander. Is it if you're a trick, you're a trick, and if you're not, you're not. So if, and it's also you gotta like reward what you can afford. If if Elon Musk is tricking, is that really tricking to Elon? Is Elon Musk buy 10 bitches a car? Is that really tricking to him?

1:17:41 Because he's not, it's not, it's not even a thought process to him. He could just do it because he wants to do it. And that you have that much money to do it, that's what you do. But you said him is nothing. But it's still a trick. Yeah, I was still trying to trick. Well, because he got enough money because he's a trillionaire.

1:18:00 Because he's a trillionaire, but he's still he's still tricking.

1:18:02 He's a trillion trillionaire. But he's tricking the trillion, he's trilling, he's not tricking, he's trillion. He's tricking the trillion.

1:18:08 Tricking is a privileged thing in the anyway.

1:18:11 Right.

1:18:11 Because you got the money to do it.

1:18:13 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you got the money to do it, the only people who discuss tricking in a different light and like call it professional is somebody who's not doing it.

1:18:25 So if somebody that's weird on some old school shit, I'm I'm far removed. But back in the day, this is where the athletes was getting the one-up on the rappers. Yeah. Because they would pop in, buy bitch mom house. Yeah.

1:18:39 But it was also a time people looked at taking a girl to dinner as you get a house, your mom, you live with your mom. Yeah.

1:18:47 It was also a time where taking a girl out was considered tricking in a sense. Over our time, it the the whole perspective of tricking has changed. There was a time where you doing anything was considered tricking, but that's why I said to each his own, there's different guys who're gonna look at certain things as tricking, and there's Elon Musk.

1:19:07 That's not tricking to him. Nah, if he bought you a house, Ma, you got it. Elon Musk buy you a Birkin. That's not, it's that's so you think that's tricking to Elon Musk? Right, no, it's not tricking to him. To him, to him might be whatever for him.

1:19:21 Of tricking, though. Right. What he's doing is of tricking, but for him, like he wrote tricking. A Birkin is a big thing. Yeah, but for him, that's to him.

1:19:29 But you give people a dollar, you give people in the street a dollar because it's a dollar that is not affecting it. But also tricking got to do.

1:19:38 Who are you spending the money on? Are you spending money on the wheel?

1:19:40 Yeah, you're getting the Birkin to get some cheeks is uh is uh is actually.

1:19:44 Or you're doing it before you even get anything. But first of all, tricking has to do with getting the cheeks at the end of the money you're spending.

1:19:50 That's what you're trying to spend the money on.

1:19:52 No, no, no. No, I know a nigga that bought a bought a bitch a paddock before he even touched her.

1:19:56 Yeah, but he still have hopes of fucking.

1:19:59 But you still could not end up fucking.

1:20:01 Nigga, yeah, I didn't say, I didn't say I didn't say you gonna you going to fuck, but I'm saying part of the act of tricking is a nigga hoping to get some cheeks from the situation.

1:20:12 No, pause. Victoria Monet was on an interview and she said, Yeah.

1:20:24 So do you think it's tricking to drink?

1:20:26 See, some tricks want that as their reputation. But he replied with this long paragraph about how it just feels so great to give and how he's made so much money that yeah. I can relate to that though.

1:20:39 I gotta understand. When you got so much money, I can make somebody to all the pretty women, right? Just make sure you're gonna be a good one.

1:20:44 Right, it's a small thing. Yeah, the pretty ones, right? I agree with you. You just also a trick. Right.

1:20:54 I know you are ho. And that's part of the that's part of the Allure. That's part of of the whole relationship is that I know who you are, but and I know what you want from me. Right? That's probably what with the what the thinking is behind that. But I'm gonna do it anyway because I can. And I know you're happy.

1:21:16 But I did it because I wanted to do it. But making you smile, it made me smile.

1:21:22 And you didn't want no cheeks.

1:21:25 No, I'm saying this is probably how he's thinking.

1:21:28 I don't know how people are tricks or I think people just reward what they can afford. Because I it's the same thing like if you see somebody in the street asking you for money and you can afford to give it to them, you give it to them. It's just it's not are you a trick because you gave somebody the money that is not affecting you in that way, you just gave it to them.

1:21:48 Right. That's what I'm saying. It's that's the thing. It it's it's relative, right? What what is really tricky? Like, I think the tricking is if you don't know a female and you going over and beyond like you just going over and beyond and you're using your money to to kind of gain favor. That that may be for me, I think.

1:22:10 And then you just doing the shit that they're sending a girl on the trip that you just doing whatever. I guess.

1:22:16 Tricking sends from a weak nigga that can't get no holes, and he's spending money so he can get some ass. That's where tricking comes from.

1:22:24 That's why the pimps call a nigga a trick and the pitchers call a nigga a trick.

1:22:30 Now you got a great point.

1:22:33 Preach, my brother. So how do we settle this?

1:22:39 I say let the tricks trick, man.

1:22:41 Shit getting tricky. You're heard. Let the tricks was in. One for one time for the tricks, you heard?

1:22:48 Like, I guess shit. Might be time for some advice, man. Yeah, man. Maybe you can.

1:22:53 Yo, tell that nigga, get me a flight too. For real. We both you you you go on trip, I'm going on trip with you. You want the nigga to trick on you too? Right, he tricking fun. That's crazy.

1:23:04 I trick it ain't no fun if we all can't get nothing. Yeah. Now that's a professional trick.

1:23:09 Yeah, that's that's that's now you've crossed the profession. If you pay for the girl and her nigga, now you're now you're a professional. And all my dogs. You've crossed the line.

1:23:20 You've been drafted to the professional league of tricks at that at that point.

1:23:24 Yeah, we over there having a time, man. Oh, so I don't know if you know the Joe, man. I am a life coach. I am a relationship specialist. Okay. I am a guru. I'm a love doctor. I am a scientist.

1:23:36 No, he's not. No, no, no, no.

1:23:38 I don't know about it. You just keep trying to poke your own. Like, we don't want to put that pause. Like, yo, stop trying to ease that in there, bro.

1:23:45 He's not a scientist, Joe. Look, Joe. You felt science horribly.

1:23:48 Well, yeah, he lied to us. First of all, we thought he was a Titan.

1:23:55 Yo, I'm something like a scientist. So we revoked, we revoked this science path. But I will give him he's gives great advice for the I deal with science, though. I deal with science.

1:24:05 I deal with it. I think I deal with the guard body science, mathematics, and science and you know what I mean. That type of you know what I mean? What's the knowledge y'all give more and understanding? You understand? Yeah.

1:24:15 So who do you give advice to? He's gonna tell you.

1:24:18 Are you gonna show you right now? This is 1-800 Maino right here. This is look, watch this. What's up, Maino? I've been dating this dude for a minute and need advice because I may cut him off for being lazy about me. Okay. In short, he has stopped taking me out on dates and always wants to stay in. I feel like I'm begging him to date me like I am at a charity case.

1:24:40 How do I tell him he has to step step up or I'm out? Well, listen, you get what you sign up for, first and foremost. Right? People are gonna go as far as you allow them to go. So if you wanna you wanna be dated, you wanted to be taken to the bathhouse, you wanna go, you know, and have spa dates, you wanna go to restaurants and all that, then you gotta, you gotta, you gotta claim it, love.

1:25:06 You gotta you gotta sponsor it like it's over. We're gonna get to that. Right? Right? But I'm I'm merely just trying to give her some understanding, right? So now, if you want these things, then you gotta claim what you want. Now, understanding what type of guy that you're dealing with, what's his situation?

1:25:28 Maybe he don't have the finances to do what he what you want him to do. You understand? Maybe he, you know, maybe, maybe you gotta go to, you know, to Ruby Tuesdays. You can't go to, you know, say less and things like that. You understand? But before that, maybe she's not putting on the way she needs to to have him excited, like, yo, let's go to Ruby Tuesdays.

1:25:50 Let's go make it.

1:25:52 She can go to Ruby Tuesdays, man. You gotta go and without busting it over. She might not be doing no gymnastics in the house. He might not want to take a note. Like, you know, you might just have lunch. You, you know what I mean? Like, you need them, even if it ain't a a date night, date night date, just going to sit and eat with your lady, going to to the movies with your lady.

1:26:12 Like, you have to be. Now, if you're broke though, I think you, I don't think this might sound harsh, but you shouldn't be in a relationship if you because if you can't entertain. So let's go. What kind of broke, what kind of take? What kind of thing? You need to go get your shit together.

1:26:28 Is it a working broke or is it just a spot?

1:26:30 Especially if a woman wants to go on dates and all of that, because it's not gonna end up good. But what broke is it? Is it a is it a working date? No, but it's take you here. I can't take you this here.

1:26:41 I have a job broke and I paid all the bills, so I'm I'm tapping. You ain't paying no fucking bills, nigga.

1:26:46 You ain't paying no bills. It don't matter if you pay.

1:26:51 But she wants dates. That's separate from you paying a dates.

1:26:54 But you said if he's broke, what I'm trying to say, if he's saying you broke that you can't go on dates.

1:26:58 What you saying? She wants dates. I think every woman wants to have that everyone's.

1:27:03 If he broke, though, he can take it to the park. Nah.

1:27:05 Take it to the park and oh yeah. You know what?

1:27:08 There's broke dates, yo. Word. Like, why you nigga can't take it to the park?

1:27:12 What's a broke date? To the park. To the park? The park is a broke date. A nice woman. She don't want to play.

1:27:17 She don't want to go to the pool.

1:27:19 Pool. How much is a game of bulls? Bowling might not be.

1:27:22 Yeah, bowling might be. Y'all think these bitches want to go to the parking to play pool? They want to go to the fucking spot. They want to go to the mirror and fucking. What? What are y'all talking about in here?

1:27:37 But we're talking about our life here. Let's talk.

1:27:39 We're talking about the back of the people too. They wanna go out to shit. They just want to tick top.

1:27:47 They want the only thing. They want shit back. Nigga can't even nigga, we bitch, we gonna be broke.

1:28:02 How do people that don't have it in the same space live in this like you can go to say less than one time sitting down there and eating, it could be three, four hundred dollars. For somebody who's working in a regular environment, that is a lot for one night and one date. So that's what I'm saying. If you got a girl who wants that and you can't provide that, you might as well get out of there.

1:28:28 Yo, young lady, they they just saying it's real niggas ready to spend that, spin that penny if you leave this nigga. They just trying to be politically correct about it. No, what you should do, baby. I don't want her because she already looking for dates. I don't want to.

1:28:41 If you what?

1:28:43 She's a dub already. She's already she projecting dates.

1:28:46 The next shit she gets into is all about the dates. I'm telling you right now.

1:28:50 Well, if that's what you want, baby, then they shouldn't.

1:28:52 You think she's getting to the next person and chill? She started she starting that mirror, nigga. No way. What? She wants to go to the spots immediately. The bar is in hell. Right. She's letting up on the wall.

1:29:04 We haven't been going. But I tell you what she should do.

1:29:06 You gotta have to take her somewhere nice.

1:29:08 There's nothing wrong with that. I tell you what you should do, little baby, is you need to you need to understand what type of nigga you dealing with. I think you should, if you does he, does can he take you to Dase, or is he just being lazy? I think you need to talk to him, you need to pull him close, you need to come within a lip's distance.

1:29:24 Okay, you come close within a lip's distance, and you say, nigga, is you broke? Damn.

1:29:32 She could tell if he broke. She could tell he broke. It's a disconnect somewhere. There's broke shit to do, yo. I be in the house having tuna fish dates. Nigga, you cut the onions.

1:29:45 But she said, Stop taking me out on dates and always wants to stay in. Yeah, right. That's the one right there.

1:29:52 She wants to go to the state. That's not a date. She don't want tuna fish. She don't want a tuna fish date. She wants to go outside.

1:29:56 She wants to go somewhere. She wants to go outside. Now. What you said, Juice? Yeah, she got to go somewhere.

1:30:03unknown The question how do I tell that he has to step up or I doubt?

1:30:07 You come within a lip's distance. You come real close. Pause. And you say, nigga, you got to step it up. I don't play pause. You gotta step it up. That's I that's the only way. That's not wise, though. You gotta step it up.

1:30:22 You think that's bad advice? That's all right. That's bad advice. How? Because if he broke and struggling, now you want to get all in his face. That don't you want either?

1:30:34 That's what I'm saying. So what happened? He got a job and paying all the bills, and now he don't have no extra money to take it nowhere. And now she just talking about nigga. I want to go to the mirror.

1:30:42 Well, you need to separate two because he wants to go on dates, bro. She's literally asking this man.

1:30:49 Well, bitch is about to be homeless, then if I gotta leave one.

1:30:53 Hey, by all means, on 1-800 may no means, she wants to go on dates.

1:30:58 Y'all have convinced me. This lady is already fucking. She's already out of there in between. What's the name?

1:31:06 Obviously, you don't have a own house.

1:31:08 She don't mean shit up. This nigga be making shit up.

1:31:11 Tell him he has a step up or a mouth. Where the fuck she going?

1:31:14 I mean that's his fucking out of the room. No, that's not.

1:31:17 I don't mean all that. You gonna crazy. It don't mean that.

1:31:19 She just means out of the relationship, though, Capo. You always making shit up. I don't like these whole things.

1:31:25 And she said she was begging him to date her. She said she feels like a charity case for begging him to date her. She wanna go to someone. Listen, I'm gonna tell you what's happening. Yo, one dude comes swoop in the accident. She wanna go to dinner, it's over.

1:31:39 No, that's it. He got her.

1:31:41 Anybody, anybody find a woman and one professional trick. She be the professional trick.

1:31:47 Oh my god, she be the professional trick. One nigga to pay for him and her to go out.

1:31:54 Yeah, nigga, take her to out back, it's over. Ruby Tuesdays is over. Yeah, she is. Ruby Tuesdays? That's it? That's it. You got her foot out the door. She going? She's going.

1:32:05 He ain't even doing that.

1:32:06 So Mira, she's like, don't let him take her cheesecake. Y'all know girls like dates, man. Don't let him take them cheesecake.

1:32:12 I don't even like you talking to Maino about your dude like that. Maino, he ain't shit.

1:32:17 But but look, but I'm who else is gonna talk to if they ain't talking to me. That's the So what's her advice again?

1:32:21 That's the relationship special. Should she leave or should she stay?

1:32:25 No, she should make understanding understood. Tell him what you want. If he can't if he can't provide with what you want, then this is listen. No use to staying in situations that you unhappy. That's the problem with people now. They're in situations that they're unhappy in.

1:32:36 Imagine your girl that you've been in a relationship with just come to you and be like, yo, if we don't go on no dates, I'm out.

1:32:44 Then you ain't the one for me, baby. Fuck it. I ain't the one for you.

1:32:48 That's it. How do you how do you react to that? How do you how do your girl just come to you and tell you that? How do you how do you how do you process that? Are you supposed to be like, alright, baby, we're gonna go on some dates? Or do you be like, damn, this shit is about dates?

1:33:02 No. No, get the fuck out then.

1:33:05 Wait, what? That's it? We don't go on no gate something out, then bitch, get out.

1:33:11 I'm not going on no dates. If she wanna go on dates, and I can't take her? She gotta get the fuck out.

1:33:17 If I can't take her on dates, if I'm struggling or I'm financially strapped, then I'm not in a position to take her to Mira and say less and all the things.

1:33:28 If I'm not in the position to take care of that, if I'm not in a position to do that, I can't do that. And that's what she wants to do. I'm gonna let you go find a professional trick. Right, but what if y'all are in position? If I am, I'm gonna find a PT, baby. Already, I would never be in that because I I like that connection of being one-on-one with your partner in a relationship when y'all go on dates, when y'all go to that's why I said it don't matter what tier.

1:33:52 We could go to Outback, we could go play pool, we could go to the movies, like all of those dates are bonding, you know what I mean, or are part of relationships. Come on, y'all know that Brian.

1:34:02 Right. So what I'm saying, top golf.

1:34:04 Right, all those is good. And if you if I ain't got it, if I ain't got it, and she's saying this is what she wants, then then, right? 100%. You're not and I'm not about to be throwing no throwing no bricks at the penitentiary to try to take you out. I ain't doing that. Go find you another one. Throwing a brick for Ruby Tuesdays is crazy.

1:34:23 Yeah, you're like, yo, bro, I gotta get this $90 in time for the Ruby Tuesdays. 100%.

1:34:28 About to go stick somebody? Yes.

1:34:31 Yes, for Ruby Tuesdays is crazy.

1:34:33 Yeah, for all the above. Don't do that. It had to be main low spot or something, man.

1:34:37 I'm not the low, not Ruby Tuesday. Not Ruby Tuesdays. You don't remember when uh Cheesecake Factory used to be like Brooklyn Shop.

1:34:47 That shit was a thing, Cheesecake Factory.

1:34:50 It was a thing. It was alright. Atlanta, it was topic. Cheesecake. I still have a little bit. That shit still got a little bit of a little bit. I love it. Cheesecake's still a cool. I love it. I love it.

1:35:02 I still eat it all the time. I like the menu menu, but it used to be like you could take a girl. You ever eat yo, you ever had to do that no more.

1:35:09 You ever you ever had a bitch trying to shoot for the stars though? Like what? Like every time you you talk about going, she like, yeah, we need to go to Mastros, or we need like you never had that over now. 100%. It's just you can feel it. She keeps saying all the top.

1:35:23 I'm gonna do one even better than that, though.

1:35:24 You never had a shit go to uh yeah, I'm gonna do one even better than that. You had one order mad entrees. I want, I want, I want the wing, I want the wings with the with the or with the uh just don't know how to order food. You gotta end there with oh you never went here before. She was just hungry, but you ain't got no etiquette.

1:35:42 You just order mad different meals. You just y'all driving tough bar. What? You mixing meals up, ho. You cannot be this. You go to McDonald's and order the number five, number two, and number three. Like this, this shit don't match.

1:35:57 Man start tweaking. How many entrees is this?

1:36:02 Nah, you ain't never had a drink at the end of y'all date. Try to order something for the kid. To go? I saw that on the gram recently.

1:36:13 They just said he's not paying for it. No, I took you to dinner. I'm not taking your your family and your kids.

1:36:19 How you feel about that?

1:36:20 I I'm not mad at him. I mean, in my position, I if I would let it slide, but like what he was talking about, he right. He took you on a date. How you ordering shit for your name? Let's keep it real, Spence. Let's keep it real. If you're gonna do it, I wouldn't just let her get to go. I ain't gonna lie.

1:36:37 I'm not gonna lie.

1:36:37 There's circumstances, let's give complete context. If you never laid down with that lady, you never jumped in a sack. She's not allowed to order for the kids.

1:36:51 It's aesthetically really pleasing to you. And she said, oh babe, I just want to get something for my for little uh for my little baby.

1:36:58 For my little three kids, and that's what three babies that I need, it's always three. I just want to order a lobster for my little five.

1:37:07 I just want to order a lobster for my five-year-old son.

1:37:18 A whole lobster? A surfing turf a little dick and stickers in the second grade. Oh my god.

1:37:24 You're gonna do it. You gonna you and you I gotta say that though. I gotta say a whole lobster. Alright, I gotta go.

1:37:31 You gonna let it go? You won't you won't let it slide. You'll let it slide. I'm just gonna say it's context. It's about the whole lobster. She can have whatever she wants at this point.

1:37:40 Yeah, cuz. Yeah. History has shown if you do get the little get some food is going down overly.

1:37:48 She's about to go somewhere. He said history has proven she's gonna hold down, dog. Buy the kids' food on the way out.

1:37:56 It's going down in the car. Wherever it's happening before she gets back home to them. Yeah, no, she's appreciative of that.

1:38:03 You're gonna be on that, you're gonna be on that group chat. Well, this nigga just got all my kids' food. You know what's up, some pussy tonight.

1:38:10 Right now, girl, I'm not even gonna wait.

1:38:12 You know, I like kids anyway. I I I'm there, I babysit all that. I'm I'm with it. Kids' meal for everybody?

1:38:17 Like eating grand love. You coming in with a kid's meal. You got to get it. I come over.

1:38:22 I come over and play with the kids, I come on the chair with the kids, I I come over, I play daddy.

1:38:28 And will admit it. Yeah, it's crazy.

1:38:31 He's very honest, Joe. Mano is crazy, yo. The only thing I've learned in this year of podcasting is this unapologetic guy here. He's himself. And that's what we gotta appreciate about him. Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank y'all, man. Prospects, playmaker, subscribe, Patreon. And we're gonna wrap up episode 53.

1:38:55 Yeah. Thanks. Thanks to our brother, Joe Button, for co-host. Anytime.

1:39:01 Anytime, you guys. This was a this was an absolute blast. The pod father we have made to him. Give us some good information today, with your presence. It's been so fun sharing New Jersey with you guys over the years, man. It was a crazy thing.

1:39:16 I'm being honest, Joe. You know for a fact that things change depending on the aesthetic. Okay.

1:39:23 What? Fill me in. Fill me in.

1:39:28 I just said lady. What? Fill you in. I don't play pause, man.

1:39:35 Um didn't I just end the show?

1:39:37 Yeah, and he already said fill him in.

1:39:41 Jim said all the niggas thought a whole lot. Jim always does that. Jim always keeps fill him in.

1:39:51 I'm like, pause, nigga. You ain't got to do all that. You do play pause. I don't play pause. You said fill you in. Did I pause you?

1:39:58 No, I paused myself because I was talking about it. You didn't need to pause.

1:40:00 You didn't need to do that for me. I didn't do it for you. I didn't know. Y'all don't pause guests?

1:40:09 I would, but I think we've just been.

1:40:12 My man David is having a fit right now. Right, right. He's gonna come back.

1:40:17 Pause it, all of us. He paused, he's watching from the couple. Pause.

1:40:21 Pause. He's gonna come back with a list of pauses.

1:40:22 Like you know your 89 pauses while I was gone, right?

1:40:26 This is crazy. 89 of them is crazy. Oh man, you already know what it is, man. Thank you. Prospects play make it Patreon. You already know what it is. What's up, Juice? We signing out, man. For the second time. Yeah.

1:40:37 Let's rap about it. Let's rap about it.