244: Would you swap "bodies" with a Virtual Alien?

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0:33 [SPEAKER_04]: And consider where it may go. [SPEAKER_05]: Specters, welcome to the end of April, 2026, and joining me and Genesis this week are our patrons. [SPEAKER_05]: So we only have two of you guys today. [SPEAKER_05]: So I hope that means that we get a longer more in-depth conversation. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll just let Ritrebot go first, Ritrebot, hey, how's it going?

1:17 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, going good. [SPEAKER_05]: I like your shades. [SPEAKER_05]: You've got some shades on and a porn stash today. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I figured tonight I'd just throw AR-6. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that's one to the wind. [SPEAKER_06]: And raise the porn's there.

1:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, that is the Warfighter ethos or something. [SPEAKER_05]: Some other bullshit like that. [SPEAKER_05]: Magister, how's it going? [SPEAKER_08]: Going well. [SPEAKER_08]: Fresh off of some tabletop and so. [SPEAKER_08]: Um, going to get a good mood. [SPEAKER_05]: Tell you. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

1:49 [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we are gathered here today to discuss what we would do if given the opportunity to swap bodies with an artificial intelligence, so to speak. [SPEAKER_05]: So this was an idea put forward by Magister a couple patron chats ago right after we had covered the virtual aliens.

2:18 [SPEAKER_05]: So the because the premise had been like if you could go inside the virtual alien world and let one of them take over your body would you do it? [SPEAKER_05]: And there's a couple of stipulations here that Magister wanted to make sure that we included. [SPEAKER_05]: in our discussion. [SPEAKER_05]: Number one, it has to be in a lot of time frame, right?

2:41 [SPEAKER_05]: So one, five, ten years, et cetera, that kind of thing, just to let the intelligence acclimate to the outside world. [SPEAKER_05]: Magister, were you thinking of any other kinds of stipulations to put on this, would you take that opportunity to swap with an AI? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so the other simulations that I had was, while your body is hosting their mind, while your body is hosting their mind, a clone body is being created for them, so they're not just straight back body jacking you forever, there's something being created while they're getting acclimated to the real world.

3:24 [SPEAKER_08]: And then. [SPEAKER_08]: If you are willing to do that, what would you try to negotiate in order for you to accept? [SPEAKER_08]: So maybe clear all your debts or need to be paid a certain amount of money or need citizenship for somewhere. [SPEAKER_08]: Like what would it take for you to [SPEAKER_08]: be willing to find up for that time, for those different time frames, and where longer than you're doing it, the more likely those are available.

3:57 [SPEAKER_05]: So some open negotiation space. [SPEAKER_05]: I saw Genesis and I both raise our eyebrows when you said body jacking forever. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my cyberpunk brain definitely has thought about these types of questions a lot and it's really interesting to try and think about like, would you let somebody else take over your mind or not and all the consequences that come with that?

4:27 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, and I really just don't like the idea of somebody stealing my body. [SPEAKER_04]: am I be okay with that? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I I don't know I I don't yeah we'll get into it a little bit but like I think if I were to get body jacked wild jestergooning if you will [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go jump off a bridge.

4:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, no, let's just, let's get into it, okay? [SPEAKER_05]: So, Magister, this was your idea that you brought for it. [SPEAKER_05]: I want to hear what your rationale is and what it would take for you to agree, to let an artificial intelligence take over your body. [SPEAKER_05]: in exchange, I guess I want to know like in in this idea where are you going?

5:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Like are you just like kind of in suspense and waiting until you get your body back? [SPEAKER_08]: No, it'd be the same stipulations of like Mass Effect. [SPEAKER_08]: So you're there borrowing your body and then you get to be in that cyberspace for that. [SPEAKER_08]: any amount of time.

5:43 [SPEAKER_08]: So being able to learn a bunch of different things, maybe get a couple of doctorates while you're in there, sky's a limit when it comes to that. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: So there is the same time dilation aspect and I guess you could say time dilation coefficient applying to all these then.

6:05 [SPEAKER_05]: as as the one that we spoke about in the virtual aliens episode, which genesis you have the time table up correct. [SPEAKER_04]: I do I do and so your baseline was like one year for starting off that that's 260 to thousand years in the virtual world. [SPEAKER_04]: So the one year is an extremely long time you're gonna get more than a doctorate or two in that time frame.

6:34 [SPEAKER_08]: that is fair. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I don't want to add to me stipulations to it. [SPEAKER_08]: Like, they're being like a side bank or something like that to what was a more decelerated time frame. [SPEAKER_08]: But anyway, it's like having the idea of being able to be able to be in that virtual space for that time frame.

6:52 [SPEAKER_08]: I'm type of person that I don't mind the concept of a long period of time, especially if you can do different scenarios and different things. [SPEAKER_08]: My brain works more in that aspect. [SPEAKER_08]: I think the actor side of me picking up different roles. [SPEAKER_08]: The stipulations that I would probably be, I would be willing to do something like that.

7:11 [SPEAKER_08]: Stimulations for that would be the great, great health care, like premium health care for my body during that time frame. [SPEAKER_08]: and having them go through, like one of the stipulations being that they have to go through basically end seven training with my body during that time frame, along with getting the medical intention that premium rich philanthropists would get as well as having fun set aside for me.

7:48 [SPEAKER_05]: probably was in the millions, so that once I get back, I'm practically set that would be a really interesting business plan, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Like instead of paying a personal trainer in the future, you can just pay them to take over your body and then why don't you go train for me?

8:06 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm [SPEAKER_08]: Like, hey, we're trading places, you get to, you get a premium me to for a bit and I get to explore digital space, but you got to make sure that when I come back. [SPEAKER_08]: things are far better than they were previously. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, go ahead and go looks max for me while I'm gone and and also make me make me super rich.

8:39 [SPEAKER_05]: So, okay, so that's like a tall order for the AI to do, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Because that doesn't leave a lot of free will for the, like what if the AI wants to pick out like all the time, right? [SPEAKER_05]: What if the AI just wants to go and eat like 30 goddamn donuts? [SPEAKER_08]: That's fine.

8:56 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's fine as long as long as you are in the given shape that you want to be and by the time that year is up, that's what you're saying. [SPEAKER_08]: Yep, I give them 10 years. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, 120 years in mass spect time, what's 10 years? [SPEAKER_05]: 10 years would be 2.6 million years for you in the virtual world.

9:20 [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure we could do a couple of stasis modes. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, fair. [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like you would either become like Ultron when you came out. [SPEAKER_05]: Or you would be like, jailgoref from the Elder Scrolls. [SPEAKER_05]: We're nothing you say makes sense to anybody anymore, or perhaps both.

9:46 [SPEAKER_08]: That's like I'll be the risk of it, but I think [SPEAKER_08]: When it thought actually, I don't think it would be interesting to do the record list. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: What would be the first thing that you do you while you are in the virtual alien world? [SPEAKER_08]: Probably do try to do a server that was different probably like wow or try to basically try to like upload a game server and see [SPEAKER_08]: and just do a couple of runs of that for a lifetime or two.

10:24 [SPEAKER_05]: It's interesting, you know, you were just talking about how you finished table-topping. [SPEAKER_05]: And my mind also went to like, if you were going to be in the virtual alien world and you had that amount of years to just play around with, you could literally decide that, you know what, from the next 100 years, I want to be a barbarian.

10:45 [SPEAKER_05]: And we'll play that. [SPEAKER_05]: Then go to Ranger, go to Rogue, and you know, what have you? [SPEAKER_05]: What would be the first class that you wanted to role play as in the quote-unquote real virtual world? [SPEAKER_05]: Warlock. [SPEAKER_05]: Warlock. [SPEAKER_05]: Who would you be making a pact with?

11:08 [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, and that's sitting probably dang the toast. [SPEAKER_05]: Now, with this pact, have real implications for your mind like when you got out, like if you broke the pact. [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_08]: Never known. [SPEAKER_08]: Like it'd be a situation that happens. [SPEAKER_05]: All of the dice.

11:30 [SPEAKER_05]: You could, in fact, with 262,000 years and there, you could make so many to impact that you could get like the gods fighting over your soul. [SPEAKER_08]: The fan of Glove with Pax. [SPEAKER_05]: exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Genesis, you got any questions for majesty's stipulations.

11:48 [SPEAKER_05]: His body swapping contract. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I think it's definitely [SPEAKER_04]: I like all the stipulations. [SPEAKER_04]: I fully agree, bring me a healthcare, absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: Please take care of my body while I'm not using it. [SPEAKER_04]: Work it out, go walk it, at least twice a day, and feed it, whatever you think is good.

12:12 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm liking all of that. [SPEAKER_04]: And I really do, I'm along the same lines where it would be a ready player one for me. [SPEAKER_04]: Go in and experience a bunch of different lifestyles, a bunch of different things. [SPEAKER_04]: and playing out a whole bunch of video game fantasies in the virtual world.

12:29 [SPEAKER_04]: So, very much aligned with Magister on that one. [SPEAKER_05]: I think I would, um, with that whole, like, you know, uh, second life situation. [SPEAKER_05]: I would just be targeting, like, all of the actions that I was too afraid to do in real life. [SPEAKER_05]: Like, nothing too fantastical, but like, something harsh and real.

12:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm, what would it feel like to jump off the Eiffel Tower and survive? [SPEAKER_05]: Who knows? [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to find out today. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you know, this is also reminding me of the is the good good place. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Where you get to run around and just experience the entire world at the end.

13:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, there's like, is there any hierarchy inside the virtual alien world, you know, do you have to play by anyone's rules? [SPEAKER_04]: I think the main AI, yes, because that was God, that was the overseer, that was the ruler, but I don't know if there's any government or any hierarchy be among the virtual citizens of the world.

13:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I feel like there would be like that AI does it really even like have like a, like is it gonna try and enforce its own morality system? [SPEAKER_05]: Or is it just kind of like totally everything is fair game? [SPEAKER_05]: You know, like I bet there would be an inordinate amount of people who if given the opportunity to go inside the virtual world, the first thing they're doing, they're like, harem.

14:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Immediately. [SPEAKER_05]: And is the AI God gonna say, you know what? [SPEAKER_05]: That's wrong. [SPEAKER_05]: You don't get to do that. [SPEAKER_05]: one I don't know because I don't inherently see that as bad as long as it's consenting virtual people you may not but what if the AI God does right like that's what I'm saying like what if the AI God's morality whatever it may be is separate from yours and it is enforced upon you those 262,000 years are going to feel real long right.

14:47 [SPEAKER_04]: That's true. [SPEAKER_04]: I would definitely need to put that in the negotiation that I want to break down of what is and isn't allowed in the virtual world before I agree to spend that amount of time in it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and if everything is allowed, and there are other beings in there with their own free will, does that mean that you can be like subject to any amount of atrocities in there?

15:12 [SPEAKER_05]: And everything is allowed, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_05]: Is does the AI, or is the AI bound by so many different people's contracts? [SPEAKER_05]: that it has to reconcile all of the different individuals who decided to body swap in there with their own unique stipulations in their contract and hope that there's somehow no situation in which it causes a catch-22.

15:41 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's terrifyingly complex because it's like what if there's something that I would find enjoyable that the AI would say nope, that's a no go something as simple as, you know, smoking weed, what if that's against the law in the AI's mind. [SPEAKER_04]: And so now I have to abide by that law.

15:59 [SPEAKER_04]: And then it's like, is this truly my virtual reality is this my world that I get to shape and mold into my own. [SPEAKER_04]: And hmm. [SPEAKER_05]: And if you want to exist with other people in your virtual reality, right? [SPEAKER_05]: And there are other virtual aliens in there. [SPEAKER_05]: There's like billions, right?

16:19 [SPEAKER_05]: What if one of the people who body swabbed had some kind of stipulation like, you know, I just, I do not want to see any nudity at all, right? [SPEAKER_05]: And your stipulation was, I demand to be able to walk around in the nude wherever I go. [SPEAKER_04]: That one's easy, the nudity thing is easy because in the person who doesn't want to see it, they just see a whole bunch of censorship bars all over the place.

16:51 [SPEAKER_05]: No. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Change their perception of reality. [SPEAKER_05]: A little bit of monkey's pause situation going on then because if you're opening that can of like, the AI gets to make the executive decision of whose reality to change and how, [SPEAKER_05]: back and get a little bit scary, right?

17:09 [SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like you'd probably want to know, obviously you wanna know what's gonna happen to you when you go in there, but with so many different people with different demands and different stipulations, I'm not sure that all of them would be reconcilable. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it'd be extremely difficult, but one of the things that Magister said when he was talking about what he would first do was I would jump into a server that was like World of Warcraft.

17:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so what if it's broken down like that. [SPEAKER_04]: Here's your NSFW server. [SPEAKER_04]: Here is one that's like completely clean, straight-laced everything. [SPEAKER_04]: Here's one that's in between and here's the rules that you have to follow while you're here in this server.

17:54 [SPEAKER_04]: And then your mind can travel from location to location based off of what you feel like seeing or not seeing that day. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that would be cool. [SPEAKER_05]: If there were multiple kind of channels or multiple servers, if you will, if it was like one big mega server where it was just like basically, they'd own universe and, you know, maybe with different planets or something on it, that would be kind of interesting and kind of, uh, [SPEAKER_05]: like daunting, if you will.

18:29 [SPEAKER_05]: But okay, we've gone really in the weeds about this. [SPEAKER_05]: I want to throw it back to Magister, Magister, if it were only one mega server. [SPEAKER_05]: And there wasn't different servers that you could hop into to shape your own reality apart from other people's, would you still do it?

18:51 [SPEAKER_08]: I think it would be a part of the whole negotiation process like you guys are mentioning previously like what one of my walking into rules in everything wise. [SPEAKER_08]: If it was like a lot of hard stuff that was against my morals or against my freedom that I wouldn't be able to. [SPEAKER_08]: coincide with, then I would turn it away, but if there are modular things or different realities or whatever else, like there's just saying, it's the only one to do nudity, someone doesn't, we have sensors, we don't have sensors, whatever else, they only go from there.

19:29 [SPEAKER_08]: Well, as we don't get to, what's it called from, it's all out, tranquiline, don't want that type of situation. [SPEAKER_08]: But everything else, I think I could work with, [SPEAKER_05]: Now, I also thought about the possibility that while this AI is in your body in the real world, there is still a real harm that could come to your body that would be outside of the AI's control.

19:55 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, let's say that the AI's taking your body on a ride somewhere and gets into a car crash, right? [SPEAKER_08]: Now your your body is severely damaged if not completely incapacitated what happens when that year is up and you want to go back to your body are they just like here's the keys by I think it really would depend on what they're I mean forgot we brought shepherd back from being a crumb I'm right okay, so I said I want that premium health I want that server's insurance that [SPEAKER_08]: at law, there's a speck of me left.

20:34 [SPEAKER_08]: You, you, you, you fix in this. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: I want to, I want to throw this over to Redtrabot for Redtrabot DNA. [SPEAKER_05]: And it thoughts about anything that we've been talking about with, uh, magisters own stipulations for swapping bodies. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

20:49 [SPEAKER_06]: So, like, honestly, I did not think that deep into all, all the different things like what's going to happen to your body. [SPEAKER_06]: Because I was just thinking in the mindset, [SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm in the army, so I already know what it's like to sell my body and time for a certain amount of time.

21:09 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, oh, four years and you'll pay off my college debt, sure without really looking into anything. [SPEAKER_06]: But maybe this morons a little more looking into, compared to just going to my recovery and be like, hey, can I be a medic? [SPEAKER_06]: You know, like, [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yeah, yeah, good that's a good advice for anyone thinking of enlisting.

21:31 [SPEAKER_06]: Read the contract Read the contract figure out how to get as much money out of it as you can [SPEAKER_06]: If you were creative, we'll throw you over. [SPEAKER_05]: Uncle Sam will use you. [SPEAKER_05]: So, but yeah, that's pretty cool. [SPEAKER_05]: You know, the thought that just came to me, Genesis, what if while the AI has control of your body on the outside world, it's sleeping around everywhere, right?

22:00 [SPEAKER_05]: And like you come back from your stay in digital Cabo and all of a sudden, you got like three kids. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was going to be part of my stipulation was that I, if you're going to be controlling my body, you are not allowed to get pregnant. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, no, it's not going to happen.

22:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I would, if it were me, like, and I was body swapping. [SPEAKER_05]: I think I would like get some kind of temporary vasectomy or something before going in there because I'll be damned if I'd come back and it's like, hey, by the way, you knocked up like eight women, man.

22:43 [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know what to tell you now, but enjoy the John Sport. [SPEAKER_05]: Bye. [SPEAKER_04]: because that that that actually just like terrified me for a moment like going into like this year longs poma and then waking up and being like six months pregnant, that's just no hell and then how do you find out who your baby daddy is at that point?

23:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Good luck. [SPEAKER_05]: That's, yeah, that would be a nightmare in and out of the self. [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, for sure, not to mention the fact like the whole messiness around consent, even if like it was totally consensual and like ensured that neither party was going to get pregnant. [SPEAKER_05]: There is a really messy line there with consent if it's your body, but you are not present for the act.

23:38 [SPEAKER_04]: I would have to really, really think on that one. [SPEAKER_04]: He is, yeah, that makes it dubious consent and not enthusiastic and I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: What if, you know, Magister said that he wanted the AI to make him rich? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, if it was like, I'm gonna sell feed picks on only fence.

24:02 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna get rich that way. [SPEAKER_03]: Ah. [SPEAKER_05]: And could there be like weekly check-ins, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: I think that would be one of my stipulations. [SPEAKER_05]: I want a weekly check-in to know what the AI is doing with my body. [SPEAKER_05]: That way, if the AI has any questions or needs clarification on certain actions and stipulations, I can give the AI, you know, my thoughts on whatever it wants to do.

24:31 [SPEAKER_05]: every couple thousand years you get a little email going hey buddy I plan on doing this with your body you cool it yeah pretty much yeah also you know Mr. AI please don't wreck my marriage while I'm gone that would be very great if you could avoid doing that [SPEAKER_04]: Yep, that's another whole bait of the aspect of this, especially because you and I have kids.

24:54 [SPEAKER_04]: Are we about to miss out on a full year of our kids' lives? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right, and I was going to save that for the very end that my time that I'd spend there would be vastly shorter, but we've been chatting for about a half hour now. [SPEAKER_05]: believe they're not. [SPEAKER_05]: So I think it's time to go to the mid-breaking when we come back.

25:14 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to hear what Reddro bought is thinking about for his stipulations and what it would take for him to agree to give his body to an AI. [SPEAKER_05]: All right, here we go. [SPEAKER_01]: We have the bacon. [SPEAKER_01]: We have beer. [SPEAKER_01]: The foods of my people. [SPEAKER_00]: Young men have funny ideas of what a story are like.

25:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I blame the [SPEAKER_06]: Rex, Shepherd, Grant, Shepherd, Rex, Grant. [SPEAKER_05]: All right, here we are in the middle of the show. [SPEAKER_05]: And this is the part where we read out your five star reviews. [SPEAKER_05]: If you've left them on Apple podcasts or anywhere you listen to your podcasts, I don't see any new ones this week, Genesis.

26:02 [SPEAKER_05]: I did see a couple new comments on our most recent episode about the keepers. [SPEAKER_05]: on Spotify, and so I didn't want to pull those up here beside me, or I'm sorry, not not the keepers, one of my, one of my saying right now, Earth's political scandals. [SPEAKER_05]: Here's one from Cameron Mason, who writes, hey guys, just wanted to say this is my favorite podcast to listen to.

26:24 [SPEAKER_05]: I was way behind on the whole Mass Effect series. [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't get big into gaming until recently, and these games came out when I was real little. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh man, Genesis, I feel so [SPEAKER_05]: Cameron says started playing them within the last two years and haven't been able to stop.

26:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Then I found this lore cast and have been listening any chance I possibly can. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm amazed that you guys are still able to come up with topics. [SPEAKER_05]: Keep up the amazing work guys love the show. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, Cameron, thank you so much for your kind words. [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm so glad that you're getting into this game series even though came out when you were real little.

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27:28 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow, that has to feel weird because I, you know, of course, played them in the release order. [SPEAKER_05]: So, that, oh my gosh. [SPEAKER_05]: If in drama, it was the first experience I had with Mass Effect. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even know. [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like that's like [SPEAKER_05]: I'll save my criticism.

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29:44 [SPEAKER_05]: Am I right, Genesis? [SPEAKER_04]: I think you covered it all. [SPEAKER_05]: I did all of that off the cuff, aren't you proud of me? [SPEAKER_05]: Very proud. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get back to the rest of the show. [SPEAKER_02]: After time adrift among open stars, a long tides of light and through shows of dust, I will return to where I began.

30:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Celery and reproduction different, very little sex-trot. [SPEAKER_01]: If intended to try human, would try you. [SPEAKER_01]: Ow, my bakeries. [SPEAKER_05]: Alright, here we are in the second half of the show, Reddrabot. [SPEAKER_05]: If I was going to proposition you to swap your body with an AI, what would you need for me?

30:20 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so now I've had time to think. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm definitely going to advance to the view of one first because I did go in kind of a recruiter blindness. [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, oh, all this time, I can enroll in like, university of space, Arizona online, get like my doctor or whatever, all this time.

30:39 [SPEAKER_06]: But now knowing that they have my bias entire time, I feel like one of my stipulations would be, [SPEAKER_06]: through this AI to fully appreciate what life in the universe has to offer. [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like they should have to suffer first. [SPEAKER_06]: So I would make them go through basic training and advance and individualize training for the space Marines.

31:02 [SPEAKER_05]: Man, I thought you were going to say have them sit through like catwoman. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's a different kind of stuff for science. [SPEAKER_06]: Three thousand, they have to sit and watch [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I can get by them.

31:21 [SPEAKER_05]: They might actually end up liking them, though, because they don't have any cultural point of reference. [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, maybe like you showed them like the very best blockbusters. [SPEAKER_05]: And then you get them hooked on that. [SPEAKER_05]: And then you show them horrible movies.

31:40 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: So, um, [SPEAKER_05]: if you were going to spend time in there how much time would it be and it would be a hardout or would you want the opportunity to say, you know what, I'm going to extend my stay here a little bit. [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, well, I'm in the military, so I'd say the option to expand is always a good [SPEAKER_06]: probably like a doctorate, get a lot of education.

32:18 [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe catch up on all the shows I've missed because I've been at work or something else. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so what if the AI wanted to unilaterally extended stay in your body? [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, if it reaches an agreement, uh, then yeah.

32:40 [SPEAKER_06]: Because that's to be a contract signed by both sides. [SPEAKER_05]: Sure. [SPEAKER_05]: What are the big no-nose that you would restrict to the AI from doing with your body? [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, well, it had to stay in somewhat reasonable shape. [SPEAKER_06]: Like, as long as it's passing, like, space, safety, or whatever, and can pass tape, that's fine.

33:03 [SPEAKER_05]: So it couldn't become like fat bender from Futurama when he becomes a human. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's a really knit reference and two points to whoever got that, okay, what about, you know, how the AI interacts with your real world, you know, family relationships or friendly relationships or even romantic relationships.

33:30 [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like at that point I would just let it like adopt its own name. [SPEAKER_06]: with the stipulation that like any child relationship that has is with that other identity and that I'm nowhere associated with, like to the point that I have a kid, basically I'm a sperm donor off to the side so I have like no real connection to this relationship.

33:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, yeah, so you'd have some legal documents drawn up that way. [SPEAKER_05]: That might be a solid way to get out of it. [SPEAKER_05]: At least legally. [SPEAKER_05]: You know, because it would still feel weird because like, you know, the kids going to grow up kid doesn't care about legality, right?

34:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Kids going to want to know who's my dad. [SPEAKER_05]: And by that point, it's it's you again. [SPEAKER_05]: like you're back in your body. [SPEAKER_05]: So that might be socially a sticky situation. [SPEAKER_06]: If not, yeah, physically, but a little bit of a dick and it would just be like, yeah, that's a new problem, kid.

34:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Man, who the hell are you? [SPEAKER_06]: I think part of the stipulation. [SPEAKER_06]: Zero's go away. [SPEAKER_04]: I think part of the stipulation on that would be you have to inform the person you are with that you are an AI inhabiting this body. [SPEAKER_04]: So that way, if you do produce a child with the person, they will know ahead of time.

34:54 [SPEAKER_04]: That, you know, the maximum, the maximum that this relationship is going to be is a year. [SPEAKER_04]: After that, you will see me around the Citadel. [SPEAKER_04]: You may see me on this planet wherever we're at. [SPEAKER_04]: but it's not going to be the same person, so I think that that would definitely have to be part of it.

35:14 [SPEAKER_05]: The, um, I was thinking about this, you know, for me and I'm sure this goes for a lot of other people who are married. [SPEAKER_05]: A. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want the AI sleeping basically with anybody else, because I know that's gonna hurt my spouse, even though my wife knows it's not me.

35:34 [SPEAKER_05]: It's still my body, right? [SPEAKER_05]: And there's still all of the different emotional complications that come from that. [SPEAKER_05]: But at the same time, I'm also not keen on the AI fucking my wife, okay, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, just to put it bluntly, [SPEAKER_04]: you know, that's kind of valid.

35:59 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't think about the flip side of that would. [SPEAKER_04]: I would. [SPEAKER_04]: I want my body sleeping with my husband if I'm not the one using it. [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know how I feel about that. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_06]: Isn't there an episode of Black Mirror that's just like that?

36:22 [SPEAKER_06]: Probably. [SPEAKER_06]: Probably. [SPEAKER_06]: Like the two astronauts in space and they have like weird robot bodies back on Earth, but one of the robots bodies dies or something. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And you know what that might actually, you know, requiring the AI to be celibate might not actually be a tall order, because if the virtual aliens have been in there for so long, we don't really know if they are a sexual species anyway.

36:48 [SPEAKER_06]: It'd be like space pandas where we have to show them videos so they can get to this and just sort of hope it happens. [SPEAKER_05]: So I feel like actually the differentiation there with different clients like different people having different stipulations like okay I'm looking for an AI that is agreeing to to be celibate whereas like someone else is like I don't care go and do whatever with my body.

37:12 [SPEAKER_05]: I wonder if that would create its own market, right, of how valuable the contracts are, and how much they are sought after, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Like, would that mean that you have to pay more money? [SPEAKER_05]: to the AI to get it to agree to your terms or give it more of what it wants in some other regard.

37:37 [SPEAKER_05]: See what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_05]: Like this would have created an entire economy where there would be AI body swap contract lawyers that they are in contract brokers too. [SPEAKER_05]: So this would be like crazy money on the table. [SPEAKER_05]: And if possible, I think I would prefer to just be the broker.

37:59 [SPEAKER_04]: I definitely think that there would be a lot of loyering involved in this, a lot of contracting, and I think being a broker would be very, very financially beneficial to you being the person that can negotiate, being the one that could talk to the AI, who could then talk to the virtual person, and then being the one that could draft up the contract on the in space on the [SPEAKER_04]: because yeah, I think that it would be interesting to you.

38:32 [SPEAKER_04]: It'd be like looking at Richard Bot was talking about like the sperm donors and everything like that. [SPEAKER_04]: Be like looking through the contract of being like, oh, I want this type and this type and this type, but nothing from that list and then just finding the perfect AI to fit what you're looking for your body to do while you're not in it.

38:52 [SPEAKER_05]: of Retrobot if you were going to maintain your current job, there would be obvious operational security concerns with allowing the AI access into everything that is required for you to do your job in your own body. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean technically, but if it went through Space design training and space advanced into an individualized training Then it got the same clearance that I have because really I have like basically the bottom level clearance in terms of those shores now So I I'm not told a whole lot But basically everything within my skill level has a combat medic you can find online [SPEAKER_06]: like you can go on YouTube and look up all the different skill test out that I had to do as a medic to get certified as a medic.

39:47 [SPEAKER_06]: But like everything that I know how to do and everything I do on the day-to-day basis, you can find out mine. [SPEAKER_05]: That might sound surprising to some people, but I know a doctor, like an actual medical doctor, who I ask, you know, if you don't know how to do something like, and you have to do it for your job, right, like a procedure, like if you don't know how to do it, what do you do?

40:13 [SPEAKER_05]: And they said, oh, just look it up on YouTube. [SPEAKER_06]: There's got such a bad point with tab GPT that the US military has mill GPT, so they have AI and they they they strongly suggest that we use it If you're standing at the motor pool and it's like, oh, I need to get a new Sign mirror for one of our FLA's, but I don't know what the NSM for is.

40:42 [SPEAKER_06]: It's with like [SPEAKER_05]: let me just go ask me'll GPT real quick it probably knows sure i i forgot my cover uh back home when i was on leave how do i make a convincing lie to my sergeant so i got a sergeant my phone tells me that it was not issued for me it's basically i [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, oh, man.

41:05 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure that's going to go over well. [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but okay, what if there was allegiance concerns with the AI taking over your body, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Like even though your operational security know how might not be that elite [SPEAKER_05]: there's still some kind of concern that the AI may take what it has learned and wield it against whatever faction you are fighting for in this mass-factor universe, right?

41:36 [SPEAKER_05]: So would you be at all concerned that, you know, [SPEAKER_05]: A, the AI gets to a part in a mission that you were working on, and either, like, doesn't have your know how, so totally fucks up the mission, and it's ultimately your ass online, or be learns more than you did, and then gets you promoted into a role that when you come back, you're like, what the fuck is this?

42:10 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I didn't really think about that like in terms of missions like I could totally see that the space lines would be because the way it is currently if the US military is when you join the military you swear allegiance to the United States so no US service member can have citizenship and more than one country.

42:34 [SPEAKER_06]: So if you had citizenship, like if you had dual citizenship, like you had one parent from this place, then the parent from the other place you have to basically get rid of the citizenship that's not the United States. [SPEAKER_06]: So I can see that as an issue in terms of getting promoted, how long it may not even have enough time and service to get promoted to my next position and really [SPEAKER_06]: In terms of my career development as a medic is I already know all the skills that I need to know as a medic and it's more leadership as I promote.

43:10 [SPEAKER_06]: Which like I feel like the pan how long I'm like sign my body over for like if it's only a couple years. [SPEAKER_06]: It's like well within the ranks that I get the just of what I was supposed to do. [SPEAKER_05]: That's fair enough. [SPEAKER_05]: Magister, I'm sure that you have a lot of thoughts on all the stipulations and things we've been talking about with the Reddrabot.

43:33 [SPEAKER_05]: What do you think in terms of the unique kind of occupational situation in which Reddrabot might find himself swapping bodies within AI? [SPEAKER_08]: My thought process is I imagine a form of stipulation for the contract like he said they would have to go through a form of endurance and, um, been a suffering when it comes to the training, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they have to be in the military.

44:02 [SPEAKER_08]: It could be a situation where his body gets blacked out from the military from this timeframe to this timeframe, [SPEAKER_08]: probably something that the lawyers have to negotiate with the alliance forces and whatever else from there. [SPEAKER_08]: Also, that process when it comes to the whole kids and marriage thing, one of the part of the situation was they're getting a body activist, like they're getting a clone.

44:31 [SPEAKER_08]: So, you weigh mine, you theirs. [SPEAKER_08]: They're the ones who was doing the act and everything like that. [SPEAKER_08]: So, [SPEAKER_08]: that would be more over there and the last thought was, I'm sure there's plenty of a sexual AIs that are in there. [SPEAKER_08]: So I just imagine it being like back in a day, plenty of fish, e-harmonie, or it's just like, you're picking your, you're answering a bunch of tests being like, what, in this situation, what this or versus this?

45:03 [SPEAKER_08]: And eventually you would get matched up with the AIs that, [SPEAKER_08]: And the AI will get matched up with you in a form of, okay, we can go from here and let's pull the let's get the lawyer in here, let's get the broker in here and let's go from here. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, virtualpeoplemeat.com so yeah, okay, having an AI as the matchmaker to find the perfect match in clients would be a really interesting and unique way to handle that, too.

45:34 [SPEAKER_05]: That would also though bring up the interesting dynamic of like where do you take disputes? [SPEAKER_05]: Because inevitably [SPEAKER_05]: Like, certainly, does the AI then generate its own customer service line? [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to know what that whole would be like. [SPEAKER_08]: I imagine it's going to have like government like funding and backing similar to what occurred with the in the situation in the service daily news.

46:01 [SPEAKER_08]: So should be someone rolling in. [SPEAKER_05]: If you're on hold for the AI's customer service, but you are in the digital space, [SPEAKER_05]: How long are you I've been on hold for 87 years says I still have another 8,000 I mean at that point you yep you just put it on speaker phone and whenever they pick up your good and walk away [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you become a whole different person by the time you get your dispute resolved.

46:34 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, well, we're approaching the end of the show. [SPEAKER_05]: Genesis, I want to know what some of your stipulations would be if you were going to body swap within AI. [SPEAKER_04]: So I definitely couldn't do a whole year. [SPEAKER_04]: And I think maybe I could do like a month before I lost, before I lost my shit.

46:58 [SPEAKER_05]: How long would that be for you in the virtual world? [SPEAKER_04]: One month, real time, 21,600 years. [SPEAKER_05]: My god. [SPEAKER_05]: that's still a long time. [SPEAKER_04]: That's still a really, really long time. [SPEAKER_04]: And it would allow for all the knowledge, all the different things that I would want to learn to accomplish, to figure out to play in the world of warcraft, to experience all the video games as truly as like that [SPEAKER_04]: Go see if I can body swap within the virtual reality world and spend time as not me.

47:46 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that that would also be very interesting to see what I would be like in a male body. [SPEAKER_04]: see what I would be like somebody who prefers to be non-binary and have an endrogenous viewpoint. [SPEAKER_04]: Just figuring out who I am at my core without my body being an influence on my personality.

48:10 [SPEAKER_05]: That's really cool. [SPEAKER_05]: I like that. [SPEAKER_05]: I think that that would open the door for opportunities for a whole lot of people to be able to live how they want or perhaps to be able to experiment with living how they want and maybe to get some ideas for their own future when they come back.

48:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: So I think that that would be a huge part of it. [SPEAKER_04]: I think for myself, it would be a personal stipulation with my husband that I'm like, honey, I'm going to be gone for 20,000 years. [SPEAKER_04]: I think we can take a break all past. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and I have to have a hall pass pretty please.

48:57 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I would need check-ins. [SPEAKER_04]: I would need, I would need to make sure that my my daughter is fully taken care of and that everything that my body is earning, everything that I'm doing in the real world is to help promote and support her. [SPEAKER_04]: I've definitely got a lot of family and everything like that that would be able to take care of my daughter while I was gone, but that's also why I couldn't be gone for more than a month because I missed the shit out of my [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right on.

49:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I think, yeah, I definitely wouldn't miss my kid, like, none other. [SPEAKER_05]: And I think I would not want to miss like any of his development. [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't wanna miss, like, [SPEAKER_05]: Even if I'd spend one day away from my son, it would be pretty hard, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I would not spend one day away from him since he's been born.

49:57 [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't plan on it. [SPEAKER_05]: But, [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so for me, I think, because I could always do this again, right? [SPEAKER_05]: It's not like a one and done, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So I could, I think at least from my first body swap, I think if I was going to do it, I would only do it for like five minutes, real time, which in the virtual world would be, how long?

50:24 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, five minutes, uh, that's a little over a year, because two minutes is one year. [SPEAKER_05]: Like gosh, okay, so it would be like two years in some change, which is still a really difficult to to go through that amount of time for me even if it is just five minutes for my son, right?

50:45 [SPEAKER_05]: That would be really really difficult. [SPEAKER_05]: So I think maybe I just wouldn't even do it. [SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, uh, maybe I would do like 30 seconds, but like, who are you going to get to agree to that, like the AI, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, can I, you want to just take my body for 30 seconds?

51:06 [SPEAKER_05]: And for me, it's like, you know, what, six months? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, an AI who is already done a body swap before and has had that experience and is just like, OK, I'm willing to share the gift of the virtual world with you. [SPEAKER_04]: I will take over for the 30 seconds, stay on there, pick my nose, and then we're done.

51:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, all right. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, as long as that's all he's picking. [SPEAKER_05]: So I think that would be my key stipulation that it's like, what? [SPEAKER_05]: What can the guy do in 30 seconds? [SPEAKER_05]: You know, like, I'm not too worried about what he can do. [SPEAKER_05]: Just don't kill me.

51:48 [SPEAKER_05]: That's that's pretty much it. [SPEAKER_05]: Don't don't kill me and don't don't don't commit crimes, please. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So, um, [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that would, I know that's really lame and really tame, but like, you know, if you'd asked me this question 10 years ago, my answer would be way different.

52:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Let me tell you, it would be very different 10 years ago before I met my wife before I had my son. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think this would definitely be a recreational hobby that was extremely [SPEAKER_04]: Yep, because I was thinking, yeah, 10, 15 years ago, I could definitely see me making some different options and agreeing for my body to be gone a lot longer.

52:35 [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: I was replacing your way real quick, uh, Sam? [SPEAKER_05]: Sure. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: So, in the situation, what if it was more so, hey, you do this for us for that year time frame? [SPEAKER_08]: We'll take care of your family and son's, like, [SPEAKER_08]: full education or make sure that he's set for health care for life, like the best or your wife, like basically not just for you, stipulation wife, but they like getting those things to set your family up for.

53:12 [SPEAKER_08]: It's just a one-year sacrifice, real-time body, which I'm for you, but it helps [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good, good little wrinkle to throw in there. [SPEAKER_05]: I would have to get over the emotional excruciating pain of not seeing my son for that long. [SPEAKER_05]: And I would also have to trust in the process.

53:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Genesis. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll throw another wrinkle in there. [SPEAKER_04]: We were talking about making this decision 10 years ago. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's make this decision 20 years in the future. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_05]: So my son's 21 years old presumably at a school by then, uh, yeah.

54:06 [SPEAKER_05]: I think 20 years in the future. [SPEAKER_05]: He's an adult. [SPEAKER_05]: He's he's good. [SPEAKER_05]: He'll be fine for, you know, uh, 10 minutes of his own time. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: And that would be what five years for me. [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, I think that would be a reasonable amount of time to spend in there, at least for our first go around.

54:26 [SPEAKER_05]: And then I could go explore doing whatever. [SPEAKER_05]: I think I would want to have a server that was an exact replica of our own universe. [SPEAKER_05]: And then I would just go travel to everywhere I wanted to travel. [SPEAKER_05]: get some good travel ideas for when I come back and I'm like, talking to my wife, like, hey, we got to make a vacation here for sure.

54:49 [SPEAKER_05]: It was awesome when I went. [SPEAKER_05]: So, all right, well, this has been a really, really fun, uh, imaginative conversation that we've had. [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm sure that we could go on chatting about this for hours if we wanted to, uh, but we are running out of time here. [SPEAKER_05]: Um, Genesis, I'll start with you any final thoughts.

55:13 [SPEAKER_04]: I would do it as long as it's got that rock solid contract. [SPEAKER_04]: And I know that my body's not going to be doing anything that I don't want it to do. [SPEAKER_05]: Fair enough. [SPEAKER_05]: Retrobot, how about you? [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, just Final Thought, like, who says you go stay in the AI world?

55:33 [SPEAKER_06]: Cause like, you could try your body to an AI, but what if then you have seen so many astronaut videos that you're like, hey, is there a sorry out there who's so in her body? [SPEAKER_05]: So then you swap back into someone else's body. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, man That could create a whole slew of problems.

55:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh. [SPEAKER_05]: That would have to be like against the rules for every contract, right? [SPEAKER_05]: So that they could keep tabs on who went where? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, interesting idea. [SPEAKER_05]: Magister, any final thoughts? [SPEAKER_08]: I think they I think it would be [SPEAKER_08]: interesting experience and give you a chance to walk a mile in a lot of people's shoes and all for the simple cost of.

56:23 [SPEAKER_08]: maybe a couple years. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I think it would probably leave whoever did it as a more empathetic person being able to experience life differently and walk and someone else's shoes like you put it. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think that's all we got for this week.

56:42 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to be back next week with some [SPEAKER_05]: I will just go around the horn and Genesis, you got anything that you want to shout out, anything you're working on. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I always have my two other shows running for the month of May. [SPEAKER_04]: The girls are going to be talking everything Star Wars.

57:04 [SPEAKER_04]: So Star Wars is your jam. [SPEAKER_04]: Check out the two girls' one chip podcast where we analyze right and review all that the world of video game romances has to offer. [SPEAKER_04]: We're expanding [SPEAKER_04]: just because there are so many interesting romances in the Star Wars universe.

57:21 [SPEAKER_04]: And then of course Cyberpunk, where we explore the foundations of the past, the state of Night City today and the news of the future for all things Cyberpunk. [SPEAKER_04]: And they just released a brand new source book for the TTRPG, so I've been diving into that big time. [SPEAKER_05]: All right, you get to let me know when the judge are being set up a suit is.

57:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I need to be on that judge are being throw man's episode. [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, uh, so I'm just red troubled on the discord and if you don't believe me that you can find everything that I know how to do online, there's an app for your phone called deployed medicine.

58:15 [SPEAKER_06]: That has a skill books for all 68 whiskey medics all corpsmen, all army paramedics and all army nurses. [SPEAKER_06]: If you ever just want to go in there and look at all the weird shit that we're trained to do. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that sounds like a fun Sunday afternoon.

58:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Paging through those Magister, anything that you have going on. [SPEAKER_05]: You want to shout out? [SPEAKER_08]: Nothing at the current moment, but Matt should have eaten in the discord. [SPEAKER_08]: So for free to shout out and know we're near cool enough to have YouTube videos that talk about my career.

58:54 [SPEAKER_08]: So I'll just uh, [SPEAKER_08]: keep on talking about the ran of AI potential. [SPEAKER_05]: Not yet, not yet, but maybe maybe in the future. [SPEAKER_05]: You make some YouTube videos. [SPEAKER_05]: Any, any, any, with a microphone like me can do it. [SPEAKER_05]: So, all right guys, thank you so much for, for joining Genesis and I and thank you for your continued support.

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