Beyond AI for Security Hype: What Really Matters in Cyber Defense

In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, host⁠ ⁠⁠Sherrod DeGrippo (linkedin.com/in/sherroddegrippo) is joined by Zack Korman (linkedin.com/in/zacharyakorman/?originalSubdom…), CTO of cybersecurity startup Pistachio. They explore the reality of AI in security, cutting through hype to discuss where AI is both brilliant and flawed, how vendors AI-wash outdated tech, and why Zack believes AI won’t replace jobs but instead scale human creativity. They also dive into phishing simulations, human psychology behind social engineering, AI-powered attacks, jailbreak chaining between AI systems, and the future risks and opportunities AI introduces in cybersecurity.

In this episode you’ll learn:

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How to evaluate whether a vendor is truly using AI in their product

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The psychology behind why people fall for phishing attacks

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Why human judgment will remain essential in the era of AI-driven security.

Some questions we ask:

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How can AI unlock new capabilities in cybersecurity?

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What questions should people ask AI security vendors?

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Why do trained security professionals still fall for phishing attacks?

Resources:

View Zack Korman on LinkedIn (linkedin.com/in/zacharyakorman/?originalSubdom…)

View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn (linkedin.com/in/sherroddegrippo)

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Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson (afternooncybertea.com)

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The BlueHat Podcast (bluehatpodcast.com)

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Uncovering Hidden Risks (uncoveringhiddenrisks.com)

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