#91: Google’s $32B Deal and a Silicon Valley Spy Scandal!

Silicon Valley’s heating up—and we’ve got the inside scoop.

This week on More or Less, Jessica, Dave, Sam, and Brit unpack a whirlwind of drama: Google’s $32B Wiz grab, rippling’s spy scandal with Deel, and Gwyneth Paltrow’s bold intimacy coordinator diss. Dave’s back from YC Demo Day, where AI-driven startups are still fetching 25 to 40 million despite shaky traction.

Here’s what’s cooking:
• Google’s Wiz deal—will Trump’s FTC let it fly?
• Rippling vs. Deel: a spy caught in a Slack honeypot
• Gwyneth says no to intimacy coordinators—culture’s shifting
• Brit’s new AI-built app, Guarding, locks down kids’ usernames

Plus, Solana’s PR flop, NVIDIA’s chip wars, and Elon’s billion-dollar X raise.

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00:00 Trailer
01:10 No introductions needed
03:34 The New York Times Ethics Department
07:06 Solana video disaster
13:16 Gwyneth Paltrow vs intimacy coordinator
17:03 Google acquires Wiz for $32 billion
18:59 Trump administration's tech leverage
30:08 Brit's app Guardling (higuardling.com)
35:06 The Silicon Valley Spy Scandal!
46:34 Are there VC spies?
50:53 Elon raises a billion for X
52:19 Drive-through AI and going bankrupt
56:29 Sam Lessin has left the chat
59:03 Outro