127: Charge It To The Game w/ John Drexler & Daniel Coulbourne

Ian is joined by John Drexler & Daniel Coulbourne of Thunk to talk about their new app Tidy, what constitutes a moat in the age of AI, why phone spam is the absolute worst, and so much more.
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• (00:00) - Bottomless Pits

• (03:05) - Tidyup.agency

• (15:30) - Zero Risk Agency

• (23:23) - The Schtick Is The Moat

• (37:52) - You Might Need To Pay Some Professionals

• (44:53) - Everyone's Playing Their Hands

• (52:39) - Business Dad Thoughts

• (01:22:03) - The Hard Pitch

Links:• Thunk (thunk.dev)
• Daniel Coulbourne (x.com/DCoulbourne)
• John Drexler (x.com/johnrudolphdrex)
• Tidy (tidyup.agency)
• Talking Businessly Ep 89 w/ Justin Jackson (podcast.thunk.dev/episodes/89-empaneling-justi…)
• Laravel Road Show: New York City (luma.com/p2mucvs1)
• Silicon Valley clip 'Why would you go after revenue?' (youtube.com/watch?v=SYJdKW-UnFQ)
• Laravel Partners (laravel.com/partners)
• Arango (arango.ai)