Ancient Watchers and the Bloodline of Jesus with Freddy Silva

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1:18 by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion, Freddie Silva.

1:33 How are you doing, Freddie? Pretty good. I like having you back on again. I guess last time worked out pretty well.

1:39 Yes, I just was checking this morning. The first one almost hit a million, and then the second one's like at 300, 400,000. So it's not bad. Not bad.

1:47 I should have asked for royalties.

1:49 Yes, tell me about it. Yes, because we're making mad money here at the YouTube channel.

1:55 Yes, mad money. I've got to pay for my ridiculously extortionate airfares.

2:02 There's sarcasm. There's sarcasm in the voice. I'm not sure if you heard the sarcasm in the voice.

2:06 Oh, God, yeah. I mean, you're talking to an English guy. I mean, I had to give up sarcasm living in America because people look at me like I'm Satan. It's an irony as well. I give up, you know.

2:18 Well, British sarcasm is a whole other flavor, my friend. It's a whole, it's a bit drier, a little bit drier.

2:26 Very dry, drier than a martini.

2:29 I think that's why Americans have a difficult time for it because they just like, is he, is he, did, it just seems rude, but it's like, no, it's just sarcasm.

2:39 Yeah, and it's a straight face as well. You don't laugh. It's like a total poker face.

2:43 The delivery is what, we have no facial cues.

2:46 Absolutely.

2:51 So, I mean, listen, I love talking to you, Freddie, because you always have a very unique perspective on ancient mysteries and the mysteries of life in general. So there's one thing that we have, we've been, you've done two episodes and we've talked a bunch about a lot of things, but the one thing I don't think we've ever actually dived into is this concept of the watchers. Oh, yeah.

3:14 And I really would love to get into it with you as.

3:17 Far as the Watchers are concerned. I've got their fax number somewhere.

3:19 Yeah, I'm sure. Okay, first of all, you just dated yourself, said fax number. But is there a connection? If I'm mistaken, please let me know. But is there a connection between what happened to you when you were in the King's Chamber to the Watchers? Or are those two different things?

3:38 Oh, no, it's the same people.

3:39 Okay, so yeah, explain to us what happened in the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid.

3:44 Yeah, I still remember it like it was yesterday. It was almost 30 years ago now. It's a very strange thing. It's the one thing that kind of got me to quit my day job because it was, if it happened to someone like me, I would like to tell people about this because it could happen to anybody. And that was the whole point of me getting onto this work.

4:05 to tell from experience that there are other things happening in temples and sacred places which are connected like an umbilical cord to something much greater than ourselves. So this was when I was just learning the craft and all the subtlety of things. And one of the things that I was doing was understanding the subtle nature of energy and the connection to the invisible world that exists all around us. And it's tangible, but unless you prepare, then you work at it, you don't really experience it. And one of my best friends, well, she is now, is one of the world's greatest psychics. She is a natural sensitive.

4:43 It's in her family, it's in her blood. She worked with the police to solve their crimes in England.

4:47 What's her name?

4:48 Isabel Kingston. She doesn't. She does facts, by the way. She's very old fashioned. And she did spiritual development classes. And one of the spiritual developments is to learn how to become more sensitive to your environment. Simple techniques that slowly bit by bit as you practice it, like driving a car, you get better. at seeing and experiencing the invisible world. Anyway, we went to our first trip to Egypt, my first trip to Egypt, we went to clean up the rubbish that people leave behind in sacred places, you know, their energy, their intentions, which are misguided. So we have to go around cleaning up all this stuff because it sticks to the buildings and the buildings are very sensitive to any kind of impression. So there are groups like

5:33 us that do this around the world, and we don't really advertise it. Anyway, she is a great teacher in that she doesn't tell you what you're going to do or what you're going to expect, because she knows. But she wants you to fall flat on your face, make a fool of yourself, and learn the hard way. Well, in this case, the whole group somehow had not managed to get entry into the Great Pyramid. Only six of us were able to get in there. I think the group was about 20 people that particular week. And so there was four guys, which makes a huge change, and two women, usually it's the other way around. And the place was like a big cacophony. There was people running up and down the grand gallery, kids, everybody's taking selfies.

6:15 And I'm getting really angry because I figured, you know, I really want to concentrate. I've come here to clean up the building with my friends and do the work that we've been asked to do. So we get to the King's Chamber and the two women that were with us, they felt really uneasy and they left. And I thought, okay, then there's these four guys. And Wait a minute, we got the whole building to ourselves. Where did all the tourists go? Everybody vanished as if they're by magic. And suddenly we thought, great, while we have this opportunity, let's get ourselves together and tune into the building and do the work and start removing this dead energy and bring it back to its normal functioning state. The moment we

6:55 started doing this, the lights went off. Through a complete darkness, about as black as this poster right here. And we can't see each other. And there's sounds coming out of me. We do a lot of toning. We put the intention into a sound. And you gauge the room as to what the sound would be if it was designed as a symphony. That's how you tune into the room. And the moment I started, the other guys who are at different levels of development to myself also joined in. And I cannot remember a time when I've made sounds like that or since. And neither did the people who were there.

7:32 And we're just getting into it. And again, it's pitch black. You can't see your hand in front of you. And about 30 people came out of the stone, just surrounded us. And they're dressed in these beautiful clothes. silk garments. I still get emotional about it. They're dressed in these sort of silk garments. They look like white silk, and there's a sort of glow about them. There's a cowl that hides them all the way down to their nose, so you can't really see the eyes at all. You can see their mouths. And they start bending like this, and I'm toning, and I'm bending, and I'm going, hello. You know, internal monologue going on. I thought, I've got so many questions to ask. And boom, they've gone And it must

8:13 have lasted about 10 minutes. And then the lights came on, and I looked at the three other guys in the room, and they're in shock. I mean, you can see that something has happened. And, of course, they're all trying to be guys. Nobody wants to say a thing. I thought, maybe it was just me. I'll just keep quiet about it.

8:28 So we took turns in the box, which I won't call a sarcophagus, by the way. It's not buried ever in those pyramids. And we took turns being in the box. And the funny thing is, they're all different heights. I mean, there's a discrepancy of over a foot between each of us. And that box fit us perfectly like a glove, which I still cannot explain to this very day. But anyway, we got out of the building. We had a very excited Arab person at the bottom of the building shouting.

8:54 I figured, I don't think that was meant to happen. We got the place to ourselves and something weird happened. So we're outside and we get together with the rest of the group and Isabel. And I was trying to say something. I was trying to articulate what was going on. And she said, just take your time. Come back down to earth. And I said to the other guys, did anybody see what I saw in there? And they literally picked up the story. That's all I said. One guy said, yeah, these really tall people came out of the stones. They surrounded us. Next guy says, yeah, they had these cows that were like monks, but they were glowing. And so we all agreed. We all experienced this. We didn't make it up. So I went over to see Isabella. I said,

9:38 what just happened? That's all I said. And she goes, well, we tuned into the building after we did the work outside to find out if you were behaving. And you did the work. You went there and you honored the building. You cleaned up the place. And did you enjoy meeting the guardians of the building? And I said, you mean that really happened? And she goes, of course it did.

9:58 Why do you think we're doing this? And that's when, of course, that's when you quit your day job, when you realized that you had, you know, someone on the outside of the building who is able to validate what you just did. So all of us. And that's when I realized when she said, Yeah, those are called the watches.

10:16 They are the ones behind the original crop circles. They're the ones behind many of the buildings around the world going all the way back before the flood. Sometimes they're also called the shining ones as well. It's because they had to put this sort of, I want to say sun tan, sunblock on their skin. Enoch actually wrote about them when he was going up to their encampment at Eden.

10:40 in his book. And by the way, that wasn't his real name. Enoch is a made-up Hebrew name. His real name was Ahmed-ur-Anu. He was one of the Anunnaki, one of the half-breeds of human, half-divine people. And he mentioned that they were called shining ones because of A, they had to smear this oil on their skin, which gave them a sort of a lusterous experience. So they looked like they were shining. So that's where the nickname came from.

11:06 But because they're also more developed than your average hunter-gatherer, they're much more intelligent, there was a certain demeanor about them. Of course, when there's an intellectual demeanor, there's a glow around you. We all say that about people. And that's where the term fitted in that describes the watches. I've come in contact with them several times around the world.

11:27 There are certain locations around the world where they also appear. They use them as portals to get from A to B, almost as if we would use a conveyor belt to get across an airport. That's how they get around. I can't tell you where they are. I'm sworn to secrecy right now. There's some things I can share and some things I'm not allowed to share for the protection of the site itself. So sorry about that. It's on a need-to-know basis.

11:53 So let me ask you, in regards to, so if they're coming out of the walls, they're basically physical beings but not quite physical beings.

12:04 Yeah. And they basically were saying, this is when we got back to the group in England and we're in session. Isabella is a transmedium. She's out of the body. Something else pops in. So we have to have it transcribed in order to understand what's going on and for her to read later. And she's always amazed by what comes out.

12:24 And one of the things that came out, and I'd asked a question, I said, did you ever appear here in physical form? And they said, yes, we did. We are in your history. You'll actually be researching us at one point. And I thought, oh, That's interesting. I didn't realize I was going to be writing books about this stuff later on. They already knew about my future before I even had an inkling that I was going to be writing books for a living, which I really did not want to do at all. I didn't think there was much of a future in books, but I was completely wrong in the end. And here I am. But they also said that we also appear in physical form at certain times in human history where the humans need

13:03 a little nudge forward, a little bit of extra help. And they said, if I quote the Channing directly, because we exist on a different level of reality to the third dimension, and don't try to figure out where we are, because there are no number in human understanding to qualify where we are. Just accept that we are in the room next door. They've got a great sense of humor, by the way. We're in the room next door. We're not that far away. It's a matter of perception. And they said that, but there are certain times when we had to physicalize ourselves, but because our frequency is so high, to come down into the physical world is really hard for us. So we had to develop appropriate bodies. And I said, what kind of bodies did you have? Well,

13:47 we were the very tall people in your culture. And we had sometimes red hair and sometimes yellow hair. And that's true of every description of the giant people and the gods that I find given by tribal people, even today, as far away as New Zealand and the Solomon Islands, they still describe them that way. Even in South America, it's had to describe Vida Kasha. And they also had elongated skulls, unlike the human ones, where you have to bend the... The mother bends the... the head of the child and binds it in order to give it the shape.

14:22 But if you've been to Cusco, you'll see that the heads come out like cones. They literally are cone heads. They're very funny. But these natural ones, they're unusual, but they are very elegant. And I remember asking this question, why did you have the elongated head? And they said, well, because form follows function in nature. I said, that's absolutely true.

14:42 And so in order to stay grounded in the physical world and still have one foot in the place where we came from, which is very important to us because we couldn't function otherwise, we had to develop the rear side of the brain, and that's your spiritual lobe. And to this very day, science still does not understand the rear lobe of the brain, probably for that reason.

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15:15 So the point is that they keep appearing at certain times of evolution where we need that little extra nudge forwards. And they come as teachers, guides, architects. And I keep following through on this research. And bit by bit, I am picking up who these people were throughout history, especially in Egypt, like Imhotep was one of them. Akhenaten, he was part of that bloodline. I'm not going to say he was one of the watchers, but he was definitely part of the bloodline, as was his father. Hatshepsut was part of that. And she actually alludes to that in her temple. If you read the wall carefully, it's all in front of you. It's all a metaphor. So they have been here to help us out because they said, well,

15:59 the reason why we're called watchers is because we can't directly intervene. We'll show up. but we'll suggest things and then we'll leave it up to you humans to figure it out. Otherwise, there's no point in you incarnating. We're kind of like your teachers, your garden angels, if you want to call us that. So I find it to be very benevolent, unlike what some people say about the Watchers, but they haven't had that kind of experience as I have, which from a personal point of view, it's always been very benevolent.

16:27 So then the purpose of the Watchers is, it's not like in Marvel comics where there's the Watchers and there's a group of universal beings who are overseeing all of reality and all of the universe. These are just, I guess, bare beings or, I guess, souls that are evolved to another, higher than us, if you will, I guess. And they kind of come down and help us out when we need.

16:56 It's kind of like what Ascended Masters do or even channeled. channelers like Bashar and these are beings that are coming through to give us knowledge. And they're not intervening, but they're just letting us know, like, don't touch the fire. Don't touch the fire. You're going to get burned. Don't touch the fire. You're going to get burned. And then they're like, oh, they touched the fire. Maybe they'll learn this time. Is that kind of what their point is?

17:19 Because the term the watchers is very ominous. It's very like they watch us.

17:23 Yeah, and that's what they said. There is a prime directive, which if you understand Star Trek, this is where Gene Roddenberry got the information from, from the same sort of concept, which is a seance. And I think this was with an American psychic called Phyllis Schlemmer, if I remember correctly. In fact, I met his daughter. She was on one of my tours. And we were sharing the same information.

17:47 And I said, yeah, I mean, my father did actually converse with Chandler. And that's what became the foundation for Star Trek. And they said that the point was that there's a certain prime directive in the universe that you're not allowed to interfere in the development of another race unless they ask for help, whether subconsciously or otherwise through prayer.

18:09 But even so, they will do it very subtly. They'll throw in a piece of information into the field or suggest something. Maybe through dreams or through a natural phenomena. And we will pick up on the cues if you're curious and you go, wait a minute, there's some information here. And this is where the concept of guardian angel suddenly comes in religion, but it's very removed from reality. Now you kind of from religion in there. And you're talking about a hierarchy. And they always said, we're not a hierarchy, but we have got the T-shirt. We've done it all and got the T-shirt. And that's the exact quote. Because one day you'll be doing this too. I mean, we are helping younger souls like yourself. And one day you'll

18:51 be sick and tired of incarnating. You've done it all. And you'll be guiding other young souls when they get born into the universe. So it's like a repercussive thing.

19:00 It's a pay it forward scenario. It's a pay it forward system.

19:03 Absolutely. And this is the way it's always been done, the way it always will be, because they recognize that incarnating in a physical body is hard work, and we feel so disconnected. So we go, you know, we listen to podcasts, we go on lectures, we go on tours, watch videos, read books, but we kind of have all the information. It's just that you forget most of it when you incarnate, because you're here to do a certain thing.

19:27 And if you were to remember the billions of lives that you had, your brain would be able to handle it. You'd go crazy. So you only remember what you need in this lifetime to get you through this cycle of incarnation, which I thought it was a very elegant way of doing it. So they're just basically giving you the guideposts, if you like, and then you have to kick the ball for the actual goalposts to get you to where you need to go. So it's very useful to have those people around all the time.

19:51 And there's multiple versions of them, like Ascended Masters, like, you know, other other beings that are coming through either through channeling through psychic mediums, or watchers. Or even elementals, are elementals on the same kind of wavelength? Because from what I understood, I've spoken to multiple psychics who are able to see elementals. And I know over in your side of the world, is it Scotland or Ireland? I forgot which one that you can get a degree in gnome finding. Or gnome hunting?

20:24 Oh, onion head, yes.

20:26 That's a real thing, isn't it? It's a real thing. I'm not making that up, right?

20:29 No, I actually did meet onion head. This was, again, during my development when I was learning about subtle energy and subtle things. We got taken to islands to look at a mound, a sacred mound, where no one was buried. I mean, people keep digging up the mounds hoping to find dead bodies and less than 6% have yielded human remains.

20:50 So they're obviously built for other reasons. And this one had been taken over by the Catholic Church. So there were dead people in a graveyard. And our job was to go and separate the two and bring the mound back to its original function. And so we're circling the mound. It's not a very big mound, but it took 16 people all around to focus their intention. And you've got your eyes closed, you're focusing, you can see stuff coming in and out, energy. And at the end, It's exhausting work.

21:18 It's like sticking your head in a microwave oven. And I've got my arms down beside me and I thought, oh, that was interesting. I felt someone sort of pinch my finger, like something is holding on to my finger. And I looked down and I said, oh, what the hell are you? And I picked him up and he's holding on to my finger. And he starts complaining to me. I mean, it really is giving me a bloody hard time. So he's like this onion head with a big protruding belly with little sticks for legs and little sticks for arms.

21:47 And I had to put him down and say, bloody hell, he's got a bit of, he's a bit proud. And Isabel's next to me laughing her head off. And the rest of the group is saying, what are you laughing at? I said, can't you see this guy? I guess we're the only two that can see onion head. And I liked him. And he looks up at me like, don't you pick me up again. And I just, we kept going out to the car park and he's holding onto my finger and then boof. Oh, I was just getting used to the guy. I really like him. What happened?

22:16 And then she said, well, the fact is he lives on another level of reality. We are in his realm when we're doing the work. So the, um, the, uh, Mount has its own energy field. Once you cross that energy field, You're back in the 3D world. So he can't go beyond that, you see. But to all intents and purposes, he looks very physical in my level of reality when I'm in his level of reality. So it's like these places are straddling. They're portals that straddle two different levels of reality. But very real. And I can totally understand why Irish people draw them that way. Now, if you're in Persia... they call them the gin. Not to be confused with gin and tonic, by the way.

22:59 But the gin, I'm sure there's a relationship, but I won't go there. But the gin appear very differently. And they wear these funny little pointy little hats. And I asked this during one of the sessions, and they said, well, that's not what we look like in reality. Our reality is very different to yours. If we appeared the way we do, it would shock you because you have no understanding and experience of these unusual forms and it might scare you. So we try to change our appearance culturally to some way that would be acceptable to the local culture.

23:33 So we keep changing forms. So you hear the same stories around the world, but the elementals are always different shape. And I thought that makes so much more sense because, yeah, they try to translate from one language to the next and it's not going to make any sense. So they try the best they can to make us comfortable in that respect.

23:52 So then the elementals that were like fairies, gnomes, trolls, Bigfoot. I was speaking to an indigenous psychic medium and he's talking about Sasquatch. And he's like, oh yeah, in our culture, Sasquatch is absolutely... He had all the animal energies and one of them was Sasquatch. And I was like, wait a minute. Are you talking about Bigfoot? He goes, yeah, I mean, Sasquatch is... And then it was like the different...

24:21 they live on a different reality. That's why you can never catch one or never see one because they come in and out. And then the abominable snowman or a Yeti is another version of that. Again, adjusting for the location. So I just found that pretty fascinating that the elementals live in that thing. So this is what we're taught.

24:38 When I say elementals, these are some of the elementals that we have tagged or named accordingly, correct? Like these fairies and trolls and things like that, right?

24:48 Absolutely. Although having said that, There's also a physical component to the elementals who are still here, and they're in physical form, like the tall giant people covered with red hair. In New Zealand, one of them washed up on a beach in 1956. The reporter was fired for actually reporting on this because he claimed that that they were there long before the Maori. Well, most of my Maori friends said, no, there's people here in New Zealand before we showed up.

25:17 That's not a big deal. In fact, there's a mountain over there called Mount Kariore, which means the mountain of the red-haired giants. And they're a remnant of an ancient culture that pretty much didn't survive the great flood 12,000 years ago, but enough of them did to keep breeding, but they can't breed with human women because they're eight and a half feet tall. We have the giants' graves all over Brittany and the United Kingdom as well. And they're called giants' graves for a very good reason. The bones keep popping up once in a while of people who are about eight and a half feet tall, as they do in Appalachia as well. And of course, the bones magically disappear. So they're still around. In fact, I

25:58 remember a story by a couple of GIs who were stationed in the Second World War in one of the Solomon Islands. I think it was Issa Tabu. And which is a strange name for an island because it means the sacred restricted abode of ISIS. Now, what's ISIS doing moonlighting in the Solomon Islands, I wonder. But that's a whole other story. And they said, we used to sleep with revolvers under the pillow, not because we're frightened of the Japanese soldiers coming to shoot us. We were frightened by these enormously tall giants covered with red hair that sometimes would water down from the mountains. And the locals have said, yeah, we just respect them. They don't harm us at all, but they're a dying breed of people.

26:38 And they just want to be left alone. They know that their time is up. We just respect them. And the story goes that one day the GIs were going to the top of a mountain on a Jeep to see if they could scout a location to put a radar. and the Jeep went off the road. It tumbled over, and the GIs were okay. They walk all the way back down the mountain, and they got a tow truck to come and put the Jeep out of the ditch back on the road. Well, when they got to the top of the hill, the Jeep had been taken out of the ditch and pointed straight downhill. So it's like, thanks for visiting, but please go back where you came from.

27:16 And the Yep, that was them. And they just live up in the caves. They just want to be left alone. And we respect that.

27:24 When you were saying that, the image, of course, that came into my mind is from the Odyssey, the Cyclops living up in the cave.

27:31 And it's all based on real stuff.

27:34 Yeah, the mythology, a lot of that is based on something that created that. But the concept of the Cyclops and the Minotaur and all of those mythological... creatures seem to have some sort of connection to an ancient world that we might have completely just don't remember.

27:54 Yeah. And after thousands of years, the reality becomes superstition and then it becomes mythologized. Like the Minotaur is nothing more than the individual who goes into a cave, into a labyrinth, by the way. So in this case, the hero has to go with a thread. because he has to take the thread so he can find his way to the center to kill the Minotaur. Well, the story is that he's killing his animal nature. That's what he does.

28:20 And when he comes back, he marries his divine woman. That's an old initiation story. The Cyclops really comes from the idea that these people were very, very tall. And the one eye references the third eye. These people were enlightened. But by the time the Greeks get the story from the Persians, who got it from the Indians, the story had developed into this sort of metaphysical story that really bore no resemblance to reality. A bit like fairies. I mean, we envision fairies in the Western world as being little people with little wings. But that was an invention by Irish monks at the behest of the Catholic Church. Because when the Catholic Church ends up in Ireland, about less than 2,000 years ago, they had been wiping out this

29:05 divided bloodline in Europe. And they got to Ireland, they found it's still there. And they were called the Two of Havidanam. And they came originally from Eastern Europe, from Ukraine, from the steppes. And originally before that, they were the Anunnaki of Armenia, which eventually became the Anu of Sumeria as well. And when they got to Ireland, they looked very unusual because the locals, the indigenous people, were much darker skinned. And these people were light skinned and they were blonde or redhead. So they were called the fair people.

29:37 And they eventually got shortened to fair folk, and they became fairies. So they were real people originally. They were part of this mystical group of magicians and priests, people who understood the other world, and they understood how to cross the line between physical reality and what I've been talking about, crossing a barrier. And that's how they were adored, because they would teach ordinary people how to get access to the much more refined level of reality. So when the church arrives, with these stories about some crucified hero on the 25th of December who gets up from the dead.

30:11 They said, oh, we had a guy called Issu who was already 2,000 years old when the church arrives in Ireland. And he says, no, you've got the dates backwards. He is basically, he starts the pilgrimage on the....

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30:37 In Easter. And nine months later, he goes into the underworld and he's reborn with his son on the winter solstice, declared risen from the dead. It's a very old story. So the church couldn't have that. So they basically made a 200 anon into invisible blood-sucking fairies. And get this, if you were afflicted with fairies in your dreams, you were being sucked by the devil and he was taking your blood. So you have to go to church in order to count 15 Hail Marys, And redeem yourself, redeem your soul.

31:08 Leave something in the offering tray. Leave something in the offering tray, too.

31:13 Absolutely. It is funny how, I mean, so things become, things are real thousands of years ago. And we go through war, pestilence, plague. natural disaster and slowly a reality becomes legend and it becomes an illusion but it's not all these stories have the basis of reality at one point.

31:34 Now do you I mean talking about this and I'm just something I'm fascinated with and I want to ask about the Anunnaki in a second as well but in 500 years in a thousand years from now do you think that Superman spider-man Batman will also have this kind of mythological, like there was a, I mean, first of all, Superman's a Christ-like figure, literally. So, I mean, he was designed around the idea of, I mean, even though it was created by two Jewish men, there's no doubt that you could just see the parallels between the Christ-like figure.

32:08 It's not a stretch to say in a thousand years if this story is still being told about an alien that came from the sky and was powered and he was a hero. It's Hercules. It's Jesus. It's all of it wrapped into one. Do you see a world in the thousand years where they're talking about– there's a church around Superman. There's a church around Batman. There's a church around Spider-Man.

32:33 There's cults, right? People have posters and images in their bedrooms. Right.

32:39 And God forbid if they actually find, like, a film print of, like, The 1978 Superman. Look, there was some film of it and they have no idea what it is. Can you imagine? Can you imagine?

32:52 Absolutely. And they'll go to Palm Springs in California and they'll find this 50 foot tall statue of Marilyn Monroe with a skirt on the side. And they'll go, wow, this is who they're worshipping. This blonde woman with, you know, voluptuous figure. And I guess the skirt, it goes around like a flying disc, doesn't it?

33:11 Yeah.

33:12 I mean, you can reinterpret this from a different perspective and you begin to realize how we inherit these stories as well from thousands of years ago. So there's a bit of comedy to this when it comes down to it.

33:24 Well, you're talking about the prime directive not to interfere with other races of people. But from my understanding of the Anunnaki story from the Sumerian text, They did that. They kind of broke the prime directive. Is that correct?

33:39 In fact, funny you should say that, Alex, because I was just reading a couple of books which go back to the source. I like to go back as far back as I can do because there's a less chance that people are giving their opinions as facts. As we get today, there's so many people writing so much about the Anunnaki. But, you know, there's that much written about it and there's that much that's been published about them.

34:01 So I like to get back to the original stuff. And yeah, there is a point. I mean, there's not much information left, which is frustrating because we didn't know where they came from. They came from the sky. Did they get stranded here? How long were they here for? Were they here for thousands of years, tens of thousands of years? Did they not find a way to get back where they came from? We don't know. But at some point in the story, when the Watchers and the Anunnaki are in the conf lab, somewhere up in Eden and the place called Karsag, which is somewhere up in the highlands of Armenia. And I think I found the location.

34:38 I'm going to preempt this by saying I'm on the case. I think I found the location. I have to go there and do the research. I'm not going to sort of put one foot in front of the other and say, well, I found the whole thing. I think I have. So watch this channel. And I was also very much amazed by the fact that they're having this discussion where there's a lot of grumbling going on with the watchers because they have a lot of physical work. as did the ANU as well, and they got fed up with us.

35:05 They said, look, we've got all of these people called the Cro-Magnon Man, because that was who was running around the planet at the time, and not Neanderthals, but the Cro-Magnon Man. And they said, look, we've got these people, all they need is a little bit more intelligence added to their genes, and they could be trained to do the work and help us out, because they're trying to build a dam, they're trying to build a compound, they're trying to build walls, And they're basically trying to get a place that would support agriculture. So they were doing exactly what we do as farmers and hunter-gatherers, but just in a much more elevated way. So there is this wonderful discussion between Enlil and his brother Enki. Enlil, he

35:45 got fed up with humans once they basically go in vitro and they're born, they're breeding like rabbits. And they're still not quite totally wrapped up there. But Encke was saying, look, give them time, because we were like that once as well. We were also very rudimentary. Give them time. They have to evolve in their own level. So, yes, they did violate the prime directive by interfering directly. And that brings up the question, of course, of the famous story of where a small group of watchers decided that they've had enough and they went down to the lowlands and they decided to have, well, they got it together with human women.

36:21 And in that part of the world, I would agree because they're very attractive. And they violated that rule that the Anunnaki said, under no circumstances teach the hunter-gatherer humans about this, this and this, especially weaponry and warfare, because they're not at that level yet. You know, they need to develop on their own to find out what they're comfortable with. Because if you put your technology into people who are still at the rudimentary stage, all hell breaks loose.

36:48 I mean, look what's happening with AI right now. We are not at the level of integrity where we can put a handle on it. And already the problems are starting within a year. So this is a repeating story. And so they basically went down, had sex with human women, and they gave birth to these horrible, what they call the offspring of the watchers. That's an exact phrase by the other watchers who were trying to bring him in and put him in jail for defying the prime directive.

37:17 So we don't know what forced them. All he can do is read the original story, of which there's not much left, and go, well, maybe they were having a hard time up in the mountains. The weather was definitely not very exciting up there, and sometimes the storms were horrible. This was just before the end of the Ice Age.

37:36 And so I'm sure they got fed up, and they figured that down in the lowlands, people were very interesting, and they also could actually breathe. They could move out and find their own feet, so to speak. So they defied the orders, and that was what set out the Anu and the remaining Watchers, the hierarchy of the Watchers, to bring him in, put him in jail, or just kill them because they said, and I quote, the planet will be overrun by these very, very tall people who are abominations. They just did not handle being in the physical world very well, and they're covered with red hair, and they also eat. So the planet will be ruled by them. Humans will die out. And we basically feel bad about this. We feel responsible. So it's actually reading this,

38:26 you start getting really teary-eyed because you know that they feel really responsible for what they did. It wasn't their fault. It was just something that we don't know that forced these people to go down to the lowlands and disobey orders. But they tried their best. And that's why the flood was engineered to happen in order to wipe everything clean.

38:45 And also, the Watchers said that some of us are going to stay behind to help the surviving humans get back on their feet. And at that moment, humans mysteriously discovered civilization at specific points around the world. And that's where the stories of the gods intermingling with the humans all come from at the same time, at the end of the Ice Age.

39:05 I mean, this is a deep, deep well, my friend. We can keep going down that well for... It's worth.

39:10 Going back to the source because, you know, these stories are not glossed over, so you get a much better reading. But I'm just hoping that somewhere in Sumeria or somewhere in Iraq or Iran or Armenia, there's still some fragments of information left that can, fill in the gaps of our understanding and stop all this conjecture. So, yeah, I mean, I don't think they were perfect. They used to argue among each other. Even the Anu used to argue with each other, but they used to actually reach a democratic decision.

39:38 I mean, they would have incredible arguments about this, that, and the other, even building a dam. And at one point, it was Nidkinsag, who was the wife of Enki, I believe. And she said, look, you can't do this for these reasons. So the woman is sitting in the council saying, look, I know you're higher up, but you're missing the point here and that we cannot intervene to this level because it's going to have a knock-on effect and the repercussions will be horrible. And they sat there going, I think she's right. And they actually decided, no, let's go with the higher wisdom here. She is one of the lower people in the group, but she makes sense. So I felt that to be very unusual. We tend to think

40:20 of God as being almighty and powerful. And especially in the Western world that we have, you know, the dominance of Yahweh and Jehovah, who basically is a brutal, horrible person. I'm just reading the Old Testament. My God. who the hell follows a guy who basically was involved in genocide? That doesn't make any sense to me.

40:41 If that's your- Egocentric, egocentric, jealous, petty.

40:45 A psychopath.

40:48 A complete psychopath. And then you got the New Testament God, which is very different than the Old Testament God. Jesus never said, Yahweh's the way. Never once. It's not combined, because from my understanding, as the church- in the council of Nicaea and many other councils was putting together the new Testament from, and let's not get into Paul or his disciples. They like, we need to fill this. This book seems a bit thin. Let's grab the Torah and let's jam it together. And they make nothing. They make no sense, but we need to bring the Jews in with us, see if they can follow us so we can control everybody. So we'll put their stuff in there and then we'll jam in our stuff that we're just kind of making up as we go along and getting

41:30 rid of a bunch of stuff all for the source of, consolidating power and controlling the masses. And then you put these all together. But if you look at it logically, it makes no sense.

41:40 No, it doesn't.

41:42 The New Testament message is very different than the Old Testament message.

41:47 Oh, absolutely. It's love.

41:48 Completely different.

41:49 Love thy neighbor. It's not that difficult, really. And yet you've got this barbaric stuff in the Old Testament, which it makes Stephen King novels look like they're, you know, guys for, I don't know, for horticulture.

42:03 I mean, it seems like Stephen King.

42:04 It's really quite a horrible read.

42:06 It's like Stephen King wrote the first one and the Beatles wrote the second one. Like, it's completely two different energies whatsoever. It's pretty, pretty fascinating.

42:16 Or someone from San Francisco.

42:19 Right, in the 60s. In the 60s, like very... Yeah, like Black.

42:21 Sabbath and then Jesus, Mary and Paul or something.

42:28 Peter, Mary and Paul, I think it was.

42:30 I just missed the 60s, okay? So I'm I'm still catching up with the 60s right now, but something out of San Francisco.

42:38 Obviously. Obviously out of Berkeley. Absolutely.

42:40 Absolutely. Although Black Sabbath is actually very light, very entertaining. I actually like them a lot. And I think the Tony I.M. is one of the greatest riff masters of all time. And the music still, just to go off on a tangent, it is. I mean, Black Sabbath is actually a very enlightening music when you listen to it.

42:59 It's just that the media got hooked onto the fact that it's all about devil worship, and they just rolled their eyeballs. I saw an interview with him and said, no, they just made that up. We ran with it because it was great publicity. But no, we were just being entertaining, and it was actually all very funny.

43:14 I mean, he did bite a bat's head off, so there's that. Wasn't Ozzy? Ozzy bit the bat's head off. So there's that.

43:23 Ah, there's a story behind that as well.

43:25 I know. I don't want to get into it. That's a whole other show.

43:29 He just completely turned out of his brain.

43:30 Yeah, it was an accident.

43:31 I know.

43:32 We didn't mean to.

43:33 Oh, the bloody hell brings a live bat to a concert? I thought it was a rubber thing.

43:39 Exactly. He didn't mean to do it. But boy, that press. Can you imagine? The press out for that was amazing for them. They just rode that.

43:48 They just wrote that. They have a great sense of humor. I don't know how to go on to this.

43:54 I know. I've lost all my train of thought here. One thing I wanted to ask you and to get your perspective on is right now, and it kind of goes along with the Watchers and Anunnaki, is the idea of full disclosure. Because now there's been more disclosure about UAPs and UFOs and all that kind of government stuff.

44:16 What's your opinion on full disclosure? What does it mean for humanity in general? Is it being dripped out little by little so it's not a shock to the system that we're not alone in the universe? Or is it structured? I mean, what's your take on all of it?

44:32 Oh, it's hard to say. I mean, I brushed... shoulders with the UFO people when I was doing crop circle research, although the two subjects don't really go together, oddly enough. They're related, but the UFOs are not making the crop circles. It's actually the watchers that were making the crop circles, but that's a whole other program. And then people came along after that. My understanding from people who worked on the inside is that there are different fighting units within parts of the government. It's not the government that's doing it.

45:03 Government's too stupid to get their act together. I mean, really. I mean, if you look at the mess that they create, it's unbelievable. No, unlike any large organization, it's too spread out to have control of anything. There are elements within the government, and they were talking about the United States government.

45:22 It's such a huge octopus that there are elements that hide within government. And even within the CIA, there are spiritual elements within the CIA, believe it or not, and people who are doing some really stupid things. So you can't paint everything with the same paintbrush.

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45:47 And they said that, yeah, there is a structured thing, there's a fear thing, but there's also a drip fee thing. There are three different units fighting among themselves as to how to get this information out. And it is to do with fear because they claim, at least a group that's in the fear and the control mode, they think that they've been given the right to protect the citizens of the country. I don't know where they got that from.

46:11 I didn't vote for these people. I don't remember you doing it either. So they're just there. And they said, no, they said that they feel that they are the caretakers of the country. So if people got to learn that we are not alone, and there's UFOs flying around all over the place, which there are, by the way, ask any Native American or anybody in the Pacific Islands, they'll tell you exactly the same thing. So they're hoping to sort of drip feed the whole thing out in order to stop any kind of paranoia. My understanding of human nature, especially in the 21st century is, If a spaceship landed outside my building right now, there'd probably be 200 people taking a selfie, and the spaceship would be the background.

46:52 It wouldn't even be anything unusual. It would be about them. It's where we are right now as humans, unfortunately. But if you talk to native people, and I get this directly from them, because I like I love sitting down just listening to people like the Hopi, the Navajo, the Zuni, and the Waitahari in New Zealand, who I just love those people. And they've been here for a long, long time.

47:17 They remember actually arriving in these places before, during the flood. So they're over 12,000 years old, these people. And they said, well, look, you know, they still come here. Sometimes they're in physical form. And sometimes they come through these shaman houses of the tribe. They communicate telepathically. And I said, so what's the difference? Well, it depends on your attitude. If the intent is right, they'll appear in physical form, which is the story with the Zuni. And I was friends with the late Elder Clifford Mahuti, who's had a great sense of humor about this.

47:49 And he said, yeah, they come around the lookers, as they call them. And they said, lookers? He said, yeah, you know them. You've met them. I've never met any lookers. Yes, they're called the watchers in your town. So they know about the watches as well. They come here every other month. They come to the Mesa outside of Zuni and we interact with them. We have tea. share some information and then off they go and they come back when the time is right. Because the welcome map is always out for them. They're not afraid of them. They regard them as being space brothers or star people. So there's no hierarchy from what I understand. They respect each other. There's always an exchange of information. And sometimes it just comes

48:32 through the shaman house as well, through the dreams of the shaman. And they said that the reason why it doesn't come through in the Western world, in the Western tradition, is mostly because of a religion that posits that there's one God and everything else is evil. And two, you've got a governmental structure pretty much in the Western world that doesn't believe in this stuff. They'll shoot down the flying birds before it even reaches the planet. So if you've got that kind of welcome mat, they're not going to talk to you. So this whole thing of disclosure in the Western world is just, I don't think it's ever going to work. I think the disclosure will be slow and very methodical, but it will come from their side.

49:11 It will come from the star people, and it will come to people whose tribal traditions are much more welcoming and more respectful. There's one in South Africa whose names I cannot honestly remember. They're still getting real crop circles, by the way, down there. That was a huge opening of my intellectual span, because I didn't think that we had crop circles in South Africa, but they do. They call them the great circles of the gods. And they said they appear every year. And we cordon off the whole area. We're not allowed to go anywhere near it.

49:43 Everywhere puts down their tools. We gather for three days of celebration. We bring food, honoring, and the shaman connects with the spirit form that made them. And they keep coming and we keep getting more information about where to move to because there's going to be a drought next year. So it's very useful information, a very useful attitude. So those are the people that already have this closure. It's only in the West because of our attitude that it's going to be much more difficult. So the government will be drip feeding us forever and ever and ever.

50:13 You were talking about the watchers and like in the Anunnaki story that they were taking some of the other watchers and either imprisoning them or killing them. I'm curious, do you under have an understanding of their souls evolution? Do they die and reincarnate? Do like, what is their lifespan? Like, what is that working? Like, how is that work on a energetic soul level? Or do they not? Like, I'm curious.

50:42 Do you know anything about that?

50:44 Yeah, I do. Actually, that's a good question. I'm trying to go into the dark recesses of my memory. Yeah. they said that we of all, all of us have been around for billions of years, which is kind of hard to fathom. You know, we're sitting here on planet Earth, and we've had billions of incarnations. We just don't remember them because they're not useful. They would drive us crazy if we remembered everything. So our memory of past events is very, very narrow for a very good reason. And they said that's The point of life, the point of the whole universe is to have an experience as a soul.

51:22 And you have billions of them. And after a point, you go, well, I think I've done it all. I've seen it. I've tasted everything. I've got the T-shirt. What can I do now? I know there's more souls being born all the time. So let's now be a guide to the other souls. And that's how it begins. So you become now a teacher to others. And when you're done with that, you've got a choice of either figuring out What is God? I did point that out. I said, are you God? He said, no, no, we're not God.

51:50 Although some people would think that we are, but we're not. We just have a lot of experience. We're not better than anybody. We have a lot of experience. We're teaching you in your work. And they're absolutely right. I mean, a lot of my guidance comes from these very unusual people. And then I'd have to do the groundwork in order to get a book done. And the information is there.

52:10 But they said it kept to a point where you don't need to physicalize anymore. Because there's a big difference between being in the spiritual world and in the physical world. And the big difference is in the spiritual world, we're all tethered to each other with these little electric tethers. So we're not really alone. We're not really separate as you are on Earth. And there's the irony. On Earth, you go there to incarnate, to be separate, be an individual being. But then you feel alone because you're not tailored to everybody else. And that's the paradox. We spent a whole while looking for religion or reading books or going to sacred sites to connect back with the other beings.

52:51 And you can do it, by the way. I mean, it's not that difficult. It just takes practice. And they said, that's a big difference is that we're all tethered to each other. And then once we've figured out, well, we don't really need any more experience, then we decide to merge back with the creator. We lose our identity. We become the creator. And yet, paradoxically, we already are an expression of the creator anyway, because the creator is also tied to us and we're tied to it because of these filaments of light. That's how they describe it. So you also have the filaments of light, but because of your brain, you've got the illusion that you're separate from everything else, but your intent is what connects you back

53:29 into the filaments of light with the other world. So religion basically fills the gap. It tries to intellectualize the process of connecting between the physical being, the soul, the brain, and linking back to a source which is basically ethereal. And not many religions get it right, unfortunately, because it's become so perverted over time. But if you get to the core beliefs, like, let's just take Christianity, not Catholicism, it's a very different... But Christianity, at the core of it, just the Ten Commandments, what a beautiful thing. A code of conduct that you can rely on every single day, and that will set you straight. And that's where all of these matters of faith originally came from. They're codes

54:12 of conduct to help you live your life in a better way every day. And then at the end, you go back to the source and you think, oh, I'm back tied to all these filaments again in the other world. I think I should incarnate because I want to be an individual. And then here we are again, hoping we're going to connect back to the source. It's basically Dante had it right when he wrote The Divine Comedy. It is a comedy of sorts. We just take it so goddamn seriously.

54:37 Very, very true. Now, I wanted to change the subject for a second and go into one of my favorite topics, which is– Mystical Christianity and the truth about Christianity, which I know you've done a lot of research in, in regards to the missing years of Jesus, all that kind of stuff. But my question to you is, is there right now really a surviving bloodline that can go back to Mary Magdalene from your research?

55:07 Yes, there is. And I... I don't know enough about it because it's being kept so secret to protect the people who are still part of that bloodline for their own protection because the church is fundamentally flawed right from the beginning. I don't remember Jesus ever saying, I want people to create a church on my behalf. He never said that. He never said, I want people to.

55:32 He never wrote anything down. He never wrote anything down.

55:35 If you read a Gnostic gospel, just like reading a Buddhist manual, it is the same thing. And the Buddhist manual is a variation of Zen. It's called Taiyi, which means the breath of God, the words of the God, the creative force. So the whole thing gets very, very corrupted through time. But it stops... with Jesus and Mary Magdalene and John the Baptist. There's three people involved here.

56:02 And John the Baptist also comes from a very long lineage of people, magician priests, who were baptismal in their introduction to the mystery teachings. That's not his real name. We don't know what his real name was. But if you go back to Ouanu and Oanes, who were the fisher gods, the gods in Sumeria that had the head of a person, a beard, The little bag that basically is the symbol of office, which the bag is where you put your knowledge. The Maori know about this. It's called a kete. The kete of knowledge is where you put the wisdom. So the person that holds that bag is the wisdom keeper of the tribe. And he's dressed like a fish. Well, those fisher kings were the tradition of John the Baptist. Mary Magdalene goes back to Ishtar,

56:46 her bloodline goes back to Ishtar and so forth. Jesus goes through the bloodline of David. So even by that time, things are getting a little bit fretted out because the other bloodline was really in the north. It was already an island with the two other, the two Athar de Danam, who used to be the two Athar de Danu in around what today would be the region of the Black Sea.

57:07 And then before that, it was the Anunnaki, the Anu, the people of Anu, the sky god. So Once you get through Europe in the Middle Ages and you've got the Merovingian bloodline, which is the extension of that, it's still there. But now there's a problem. You see, if you go back to the original teachings, they said that the difference between these godlike people and the Sumerians had a lovely phrase for them. They were human-like, but not quite human. So we were very comfortable with them physically.

57:35 They were just much taller and they were lighter skin and had blonde hair or red hair. It's essentially the foundation of the Caucasian bloodline for all intents and purposes. So by the time they get to the Merovingians in Europe, the blood is already diluted because the speciality that they had was in the blood itself. That's why the blue blood was very special. They were able to be psychics and healers because it was literally within their system. So they had to interbreed within themselves to perpetuate that lineage and that speciality. There's a small problem, though, because they're running out of people with whom they can interbreed and it's creating all kinds of problems in terms of DNA.

58:18 Once you start interbreeding in very close quarters with your cousins and everything, it starts to degrade the DNA and then you get physical impairments. Tutankhamun and Akhenaten were wonderful examples of that, or terrible examples, depending on your point of view. So by the time we get to the Merovingians, it's still there, but it's now kind of diluted. The other version of that is the rulers of Europe, Caesar and Tsar, which goes back to the word Gesar, which is a Mongolian crucified hero god who goes into the other world after being crucified on the winter solstice, gets up three days later, resurrects and goes on living a very healthy life. This is where it all goes back to.

59:01 So the bloodline eventually is picked up by the Knights Templar. One of the reasons why they wanted to go over to Temple Mount was to pick up the friends from the Essenes who understood what was going on, and they buried the secret of the bloodline of Jesus and Mary Magdalene having offspring, and the whole thing goes underground for their own protection, obviously. So the rule was that there was three, possibly four children that they have together. Now, Jesus disappears into Kashmir. He dies there at the age of 80. His tombstone is still there. His grave is still there. And they'll point it out to you. Whoops, sorry.

59:42 I don't know what that was. The Yeshua Ben Yosef's grave is still there to this very day. And because the bloodline was so important to maintain the integrity of the Christian doctrine, the true Christian doctrine, they had to split themselves up as husband and wife. So Mary Magdalene gets on board a boat, disappears to the south of France, and then goes underground. The children are then split through the whole of Europe. Rumor goes that, we're into rumor now, One of them ends up in Scotland, one is in France, and one, possibly two of them are actually in Portugal.

1:00:17 And I came across that when I was researching my book on the Knights Templar and the origins of the Templars, which turns out to be a completely original book because no one's figured out that the Templars had already been active in Portugal before they were made official in Jerusalem. By 10 years, I actually saw the vellum, the original doctrine and the deeds of the Count of Portugale, as it was called back then.

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1:00:54 Giving the Templars, it was actually several houses, a town and a castle in Soré in Portugal. before the country was created. And I don't think the guy that was running the entire kingdom was going to give all of this property to a fictitious organization. So I finally found a 16th century book, which is about this sake. It was written on animal skin. I had to go on my knees physically at Harvard because I knew it was there.

1:01:23 Don't ask me how I found it. It's a sordid story. But, you know, when you're desperate and you're keen, you go and find this source information. And it was like page 480 of the 600-page book written by a monk in Portugal. And she talks about the protecting of the bloodline in Portugal. Now, that was part of the swearing-in ceremony of the Templar master in Portugal. If there was no bloodline to protect, they wouldn't have put that as a line item in the swearing-in ceremony. And at that moment, I remember still to this very day, saying a big expletive out loud in the middle of Harvard Library. The whole of the scholars turned around and they went, he's found something original.

1:02:01 I said, yes, I have. And I'm not saying anything. So here's a funny story that goes from that. The published published becomes a bestseller in Portugal, ironically. I actually beat Dan Brown to number one. who was my neighbor in New Hampshire at one point, funny old world. And I'm also friends with the head of the Eastern Star in America. She's a very wonderful woman, a great opera singer as well. And she said, look, is there anything that you want me to ask of the Freemasons? Because we're going to get a conf lab every year in Belgium.

1:02:33 Is there anything that you... left untied that you want to find out about? I said, yeah. I wrote about an allusion to the bloodline in Portugal because I knew that there's some things you should not talk about for the protection of people that are involved. And I was sensible enough and sensitive enough just to leave it out as a suggestion and move on in my story. And I said, can you ask if I'm on the right trail here that the bloodline is alive and well in Portugal?

1:03:00 Because I have all these clues everywhere, but I'm not going to cross that line until I'm told to do it. She goes, okay. So she comes back 10 days later. And she says, well, I mentioned it to the room of head Freemasons that were there. And the whole room went very quiet. I went, oh, I'll be not into trouble. Oh, no, no.

1:03:19 And one of the Freemasons, a 33rd degree Mason said, this is the Scottish Rite, by the way, this is the real Masons. They are the Templars that changed their name to Scottish Rite when they were being persecuted. So the London Rite Freemasons are a completely separate thing altogether. Don't go there. But the Scottish Rite was there. And they said, look, tell your friends. he has his nose very deep in the honeypot. And he said that with a big smile. I said, that's all I need to know. Yeah, because there's something you really should not bring out for the protection of the people. So right now, that's as far as I can take it. So the bloodline, in answer to your question, is very much alive and well.

1:04:01 And at the right politically correct moment, it will make itself known. But whether I'll be involved in that, I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. I have to be worthy.

1:04:12 Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Now, I wanted to ask you about a mythical character in British lore. And I think you'd be the person to talk to about this. And I don't think we've had this conversation. But the King Arthur Arthurian legend in general. Now, hold on. I know. I know.

1:04:31 I know. I know.

1:04:31 I know. But there's a specific. Now, there's many characters in the Arthurian legend, but the one that I am really interested in, who in some circles is considered a master, an ascended master even, and that he actually lived, was Merlin.

1:04:50 Yeah.

1:04:51 Now, Merlin's, you know, we all, I think King Arthur, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is based on some sort of real person. And then there's this kind of legend that was built around him and Excalibur is considered a real sword, but it wasn't particularly, let's say, magical, but it could have just been made out of a material that just destroyed everything around it, which if it was steel, it would have just ripped through anything that it touched back then if they were able to build that or have the technology to do it. So that's one thing I've heard. But Merlin specifically, what would have seemed to be magical to us was just either science or just other mystical experiences that he just mastered very

1:05:35 much like a yogi, very much like a Christ figure, things like that. So what is your understanding of this character of Merlin? And was he real and all the things I just said? Does that make any sense?

1:05:46 Yeah, it's both. Again, it starts off with a real character and over time it becomes mythologized and becomes fictionalized almost because they've lost the point of contact. The information gets lost and denatured over time. But back in the day when the Welsh were the true Britons, because the English...

1:06:07 And it's kind of funny reading the papers only a few days ago in Britain where, you know, these far-right idiots are going around attacking, you know, more immigrants who are desperate to flee their home countries. And they said, no, we want England for the English. Yeah, but the English, the Angles, came from Angle, the Angle land in northern Germany.

1:06:26 And the Saxons also came from Germany as well. They're the last people to show up in Britain. The original Britons were the Welsh. So back then, 4,000 years ago... They called it, the whole of the British Isles, all the way up to what today is Scotland, was called Clas Merdyn, which means the precinct of Merlin. And they, yeah, you see, it all begins in this thing. You go back as far as you can. And they said, no, this is a wisdom keeper. Originally it was. We don't know where he came from or when he lived, because by our time, the story was already quite old. And this is the Welsh bars talking about this. So, thing you have to understand is it's a person and also an allegory, a metaphor for a wisdom keeper and a magician.

1:07:13 So if you were saying this with an Egyptian, they'll say, oh, we got that story. It's called Tehutti or Jehuti, who the Greeks called Toph. He originally lived on an island in the Indian Ocean. There was a whole precinct that he was governed. And then during the Ice Age, when the sea level was messing things around, he was forced to move to Egypt to start his own class. But he wasn't the same person because he would have been thousands of years old. So another Jehuty takes over. And it's the same thing in Britain. Another Merlin takes over the mantle of the original Merlin. He takes on the idea of the real Merlin as a musician, as a mathematician, as an astronomer, and so forth. And you have this

1:07:55 all around the world. It's the same story in every single culture. And the link with Arthur is that Arthur was also a real hero who basically has to challenge himself with 12 obstacles in order to become a better person. And then at the end, his prize is not only he discovers himself, he becomes a single man, kind of like Jesus, by the way. He marries his left and his right personality, his family and his masculine side, becomes a single person, marries his divine bride, and goes on living a happy life ever after. It's the path of the initiate. Eventually, it becomes the round table. And if you read the story, the original story of Arthur and the knight and the round table, it's the passage of

1:08:39 the solar hero through the houses of the zodiac. And each one of the houses has a different challenge. Your job as an initiate is to master the challenge and get over the challenge stoically, heroically, and also correctly. So that the idea was when you come back to fulfill the full circle of your yearly cycle, you are just like nature. You are perfected. And that's what it comes down to. So there appears to have been a fourth century hero called Arfawr, because there's still the Welsh that were governing things back then. So Arfawr was a real person.

1:09:15 And yet he was also born into a mythological figure who happened to be a real hero, thousands of years ago, who were basically following the same tradition. And to put it more into context, when the story of Arthur and Merlin really takes prominence, which is about 1200 years ago, was the high point of that. The pole star at that point was in the Great Bear, the constellation of the Great Bear. And if you know your Welsh, Arfawr means the Great Bear. So you are the constellation of the Great Bear. How does it relate to the individual and the pole star? Well, the pole star is when your soul departs your body and it travels to the pole star to be regenerated into light or into a new body if you want to incarnate. So you see

1:10:05 the whole story takes on the shape of a metaphor that basically is the path of the person that's seeking to become a better person. Because if Arthur fails... in his quest to become a better person. And if Merlin fails in his quest, the kingdom will fall into ruin. And that's it. That's the end of the story. So the idea is to become an example to others. And, of course, Jesus did it very well even before Arthur.

1:10:31 So Arthur was a bit of a plagiarist in that sense, wasn't he?

1:10:35 It also sounded like you were talking about the round table. It seemed like that everyone, you're going through different houses and different challenges. Well, it sounded very similar to Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey.

1:10:47 It does it beautifully for a hero.

1:10:50 Yeah, for a hero. And we all go through all of these elements multiple times in our lives, the call to adventure, the point of no return, all of that stuff. It's so funny how all of this connects.

1:11:02 So Joseph is a modern-day Arthur or Arthur. It's a bit like the stories of the Grail. It's the same story. It just keeps getting regurgitated for a new era, for a different audience. I mean, today, most kids would go, oh, Knights of the Round Table, the Grail, whatever. Oh, what's this? It's Star Wars. Oh, I like that. Well, it's the same story. It's the part of the individual that has to go through all these hurdles to become a better person, yeah, and become a Jedi. who basically is a master of the Jed Pillar in Egypt. And that actually is a real thing. If you go to Abydos and you see Isis and Osiris holding the Jed Pillar at a very unusual angle of 22.3 degrees, which just happens to be the mean tilt of the Earth. And without that tilt,

1:11:49 life on Earth cannot take place. They're trying to tell you a story about how life works.

1:11:53 Yeah, let's not even talk about the dimensions of the Great Pyramid. and what it says about the world's circumference and the math involved, and there's a whole other conversation about that. When you were saying that there was like a Merlin that took over another Merlin that took over another Merlin, and they just kind of kept going, the thing that came into my mind was the Princess Bride.

1:12:15 If you remember the Princess Bride and the bloody Pirate Roberts or something like that, and it was like, I'm not the original Pirate Roberts. I took it over from the last guy. who retired and now he lives in France somewhere. And it's fascinating to think that that is a thing that over many centuries, the character is so well known that the myth of it has to continue, but physically that person can't continue it so it gets handed down almost. It's fascinating, isn't it?

1:12:47 The stories are beautiful, but they change over time. And the Odyssey, which is on everybody's mind right now, I don't know what the big fuss was about. I thought the film was very enjoyable and unusual for Christopher Nolan. I have to say, very linear story. I prefer challenging stuff. which throws you into all kinds of different dimensions at the same time, let you figure it out. But still, they couldn't really tell the story of the Odyssey in Central Europe in the 12th century. Most people didn't even know what an ocean was, let alone a massive lake.

1:13:21 So they had to reinvent the story with the knight on a horse that goes to a tower that is burning, and there's a woman he has to rescue. But in order to get to the woman, he has to overcome all these obstacles. So yeah, it's the same story rewritten from another era. And the Egyptians had their own version, which is the story of Isis and Osiris. Again, it just gets retold. There's not really that much original stories when it comes to motivating the human soul. They just get rewritten for a different audience and reshaped so that it keeps getting perpetuated over time. And I'm sure Lord of the Rings is something in there as well. I haven't quite worked it out yet because Tolkien borrowed so much from wealth sorry, Welsh and Nordic mythology. And if

1:14:03 you look at the words and the names of things, they are real names and real locations.

1:14:07 Well, I mean, yeah, and you look at Star Wars, I mean, George has been very frank about taking from the Japanese samurai lineage, you know, and I think even Jedi comes from a Japanese word. And I remember hearing something like that. Yeah, Jedi is like an actual term. And please don't beat me up in the comments, guys.

1:14:31 But the term Jedi is an actual thing like stormtroopers was literally, you know, from the Nazis. I mean, there's little and the design of it was specific. It was just so beautifully and well, well thought through and the concept of the Jedi and the concept of. All of it is, don't get me started. There's a Yoda behind me somewhere. I'm sure there's one right there, I think, over my shoulder.

1:14:56 And I believe that he was also a fan of Joseph Campbell, George Lucas.

1:15:01 Oh, no, he wasn't just a fan. He was the student of Joseph Campbell. And Joseph Campbell said, my greatest student ever was George Lucas. Because he nailed.

1:15:08 His Tai Chi teacher or his, I don't know, some kind of yoga thing that he was doing. the character Yoda is actually based on his teacher as well. He actually spoke like that, which is very funny. It's all borrowed from real life.

1:15:24 We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show. There's a lot of wisdom dropped in the Star Wars films, but one that out of Yoda's mouth that I just found so profound is, um, Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.

1:15:46 Exactly.

1:15:47 It is such a beautifully, just like, oh, because it's so true. Because everything goes back to fear. It's fear and love. Fear and love are the two things that drive everything.

1:16:01 Yeah.

1:16:01 It's fear and love.

1:16:02 And your intention, your belief. I mean, one of the best ones that I think, I mean, I've watched it so many times. There's that bit where Luke foolishly dumps his wonderful spaceship into a swamp. And he's trying to learn the force, he's lifting up rocks and things. But can I get the spaceship out of the lake? Well, of course you can. I mean, size doesn't matter. I mean, judge me by my size, do you not? And so he goes over there and he starts getting the ship up.

1:16:32 And he's making progress. And slowly his intention wavers and the thing sinks back in. He goes, it's impossible. And so Yoda goes over to the edge of the marsh and goes, brings the ship all the way down. Luke comes back from his sulk in the marsh and goes, I don't believe it. That is why you fail. Beautifully said.

1:16:57 And today what we know about the power of intentions. just from the experiments at Princeton and the fact that 22 people sat around the computer and were able to change the drumbeat just by looking at the thing and saying, computer, change the drumbeat. I mean, that is incredible power. That's something that's very well worth repeating again and again when you've lost faith in the world because you can change the world. You have control. It goes back to what the watchers were saying. They said, you have control. We're just here to show you that you can do it because we were there doing the same thing that you're doing millions of years ago. So if we can do it, you can do it too.

1:17:33 Oh, it's like a parent talking to a child.

1:17:35 Absolutely.

1:17:36 Explaining to a child how the world works because we are ahead of them. We're just more experienced than them. We're not smarter than them. We just happen to be more experienced than them because we're here first. So we had just seen a few things and like, hey, look, don't do that. Don't do that. Just stay away from that.

1:17:55 On the back of the ear.

1:17:57 Like, don't stick your finger in that. Don't put that in your mouth, for God's sakes.

1:18:02 Yes, Atom's good. In Bomb, not good.

1:18:06 Not good, exactly. Two different types of things. Freddie, man, I could talk to you. I mean, I have a thousand questions we can go down, a thousand different, you know.

1:18:16 Yeah, we'll do it again.

1:18:18 Yeah, absolutely, man. It is such a pleasure talking to you. Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?

1:18:23 It depends if you want to find me or not. yes exactly go to my website uh invisibletemple.com and there's uh i think 15 documentaries on there now nine books um i keep losing track of it i have to go on my own website to find out what i've actually accomplished because there's so much stuff in there so uh yeah and support your local author because i've got to go out there and pay for this horrifically expensive airfare so i can go on doing this work. And believe me, six foot five, I can't fit an economy.

1:18:54 So it is expensive. So yeah, always support your authors and your favorite people directly.

1:19:00 Yes. Freddie, thank you so much for being here, brother. I appreciate everything you're doing to help awaken this planet, my friend. So thank you again.

1:19:08 I'm trying the best I can.

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