Hope Messages for Humanity from the Ascended Masters with Chanel Lingenfelder

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1:18 by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome to the show Chanel Linglingfelder. How are you doing, Chanel?

1:35 Thank you. Thank you, Alex. I'm doing good. And I just want to thank you so much for giving me this opportunity and having me here on your fabulous show. Honestly, you are doing such amazing work. Yeah, I know you are. Honestly, honestly. Can I spell, can I say your surname? Is it Ferrari? How do you say your surname? Just like the car. Ferrari.

1:57 Just like the car.

1:58 Fantastic. Well, at least I know your surname because that's a fantastic car, I think. I don't know. I'm not into cars.

2:06 I usually have a Toyota. But they are fantastic cars. They are fantastic cars. Well, Chanel, thank you so much for coming on the show. You are a channel. Is it a trans channel?

2:20 Trans voice channel, yeah.

2:22 Yeah, trans voice channel. And you speak, you channel a lot of the Ascended Masters, but one master specifically, now you're channeling more than most, is his name?

2:33 Kutumi. Kutumi. Kutumi. Kutumi.

2:39 Yes.

2:39 Kutumi.

2:40 Kutumi.

2:41 Kutumi. Kutumi. Yes.

2:43 Okay.

2:44 He has many different ways of, yes. Well, everyone spells his name sort of differently, so I think there's sort of, pronunciation and that sort of rolls off in the way they write his name, you know?

2:56 As I was joking with before we came on, his PR people are not that good because, you know, St. Germain's PR people's good. Obviously Yeshua's people are on point, but I really haven't heard about him. Can you tell us a little bit about who he was as a master, a walking master and his story a little bit?

3:12 Yes, yes, of course. I just want to say that, you know, he's, In the deep spiritual circles, he's probably on par with the high rollers, the Saint Germain and that kind of thing. But he's in many, many ways stepped back from that. And he is a world teacher. He's a world teacher and he is a master psychologist.

3:38 He's quite incredible in that. Kutumi. Kutumi has lived many lifetimes. on this planet, some very famous lifetimes and obviously many others in between. But with my experience with him and the other masters that I've channeled is they're not really too worried about talking about themselves, you know, and their lifetimes and what they've done and the things that happened and the experiences. They're sort of more into helping humanity to sort ourselves out so that we can make the best of our lifetime, of this particular lifetime, and that we can make sense or put some sense into the rest of it. But yes, he's probably, if you go back to his lifetimes, Pythagoras was one of his lifetimes.

4:43 He was also one of the three wise men in Balthazar. You know, a little bit further on, he was Shah Jahan that built the Taj Mahal for his wife, you know. And, of course, the two famous is, of course, Saint Francis of Assisi and Moses. And of course, his final lifetime, he lived as Rishi Kuthumi. Kuthumi and he lived in Tibet and he was very closely associated with the masters Amorya and Deval Kul, D.K. They always worked together. And Kuthumi was very involved with the Mahatma letters that, of course, channeled information and actually send physical information to Madame Levatsky, that of course started the Theosophical Society. Yes. So that's just in a nutshell, you know, a little bit about him.

5:56 Oh, very cool. Well, we're going to get to him a little later on in the conversation, but before we bring him in, you've personally had a hell of a journey. You have a book here called From Party Patsy to Praying Patricia is your book. So this is kind of like an eyes wide shut situation going on in the front cover. But tell us a little bit about how you got to this place. How did you discover your ability to channel and how did you deal with it when it came in? Where did you come from and how did you make the turn?

6:34 Well, you know, that's why I was so sort of set on the book cover, because I didn't want the book cover to be, you know, I wanted the book cover to reflect what's in the book. Okay. And the truth of it is, I was writing another book. This was the second book I was busy with. And I was writing another book, a very serious book. which I'm still busy with at the moment, called The Sojourns of a Modern-Day Disciple. And in that second book, which now is the second book, was supposed to be the first book, Petumi and the other masters have taken us on an incredible journey over the last 20 years, something years, 20 years.

7:27 And the teachings and the work that has come through me from the ascended masters has always been initiations, teachings, like serious kind of stuff. You know, okay, they have a good sense of humor, but always kind of serious. And when I was woken up one night, in the middle of the night, about seven years ago, and spirit said to me, no, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

7:55 That's got to go that side. You've got to write this book. And this is going to be the title. They gave me the title. From Party Patsy to Playing Patricia in the middle of the night. Start from the beginning. And I want you, the book that you should write should reflect yourself, me. And of course, I was really, really set on writing a book that would get through to people, especially people that are new at it. You know, I mean, we don't need to, you know, convert the converted.

8:27 There's no need for that. So I started rewriting the entire story about what happened to me in a 12-year period. And it initially started just as a conversation to friends because I obviously have a lot of friends and a lot of them have got no idea about channeling, about the Ascended Masters. And from Patsy's life before, none of them can actually understand and fathom that I've now gone into this other journey and have for the last 19 years, you know? So Party Patsy was sex, drugs, and rock and roll. It was party time 40 years ago. It was the 80s. It was fabulous. The 90s was fabulous.

9:17 I can't say it wasn't because it was, you know? Then something amazing happened. Well, I was always very spiritual. I was very, you know, like yourself, Catholic. I was very spiritual. And, you know, a lot of things happened to me and I grew up, my mom was a clairvoyant. So I always sort of was quite aware of the world beyond this one. And the sort of paranormal and all that didn't faze me, you know, it was nothing new to me. So I've always been quite aware of this world that exists beyond this one. And that's what I wanted to do in this book. I wanted to bring the story across in a funny, because I believe in humor, gentle and non-intrusive way for someone that wants to maybe further their spiritual path or is interested in

10:17 discovering more or learning. to sort of take the book up. And that's why it's done in storytelling format.

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10:36 Besides the most incredible story that I tell in there about myself and what happened to me and how I became a journal, it takes the reader on such a journey that is so large. that eventually I start weaving in channelings in the book. Amazing stuff. But for the reader, it's easy to digest. And of course, then I take them on the whole journey. And that's what came to me is the way to write this book was to do it gentle, easy, and to share the information in a lighthearted way and not to scare, you know, the people and let them run off kind of thing. So that was... the book. For me personally, my journey started in around about 1995. I sort of got introduced to the Theosophical Society. I really enjoyed what was going on

11:36 there and their way of thinking. Quite seriously, I was initiated into the Durban House and I became the librarian at the time. And one night at the library, this lady walked, well, she was in the library probably, but there were so many people. But anyway, Alex, she came to me and she stood in front of me. She had these two thick books in her hand. Now, you know, old books are old. They're dusty. Yes. So she took these two books and she slammed them on the table like this in front of me. And she said to me, you have to read this and study this. And she walked out and I looked at the books and the one book was about color and the other book was about chakras. Now I knew nothing about chakras, you know,

12:36 I knew very little about color too, but chakras definitely not. It was like, oh, okay. And slowly but surely I started, you know, you know, we're talking late nineties. So The internet in South Africa was very limited. There wasn't much we could see. We've just come out of years of isolation. So there was very little we could delve into online at the time. But I slowly started looking and seeing about color and chakras and sort of finding my way, but not doing much about it. Then one night.

13:21 I think it was about 2000, I was alone at home in my studio upstairs and this email came through to my inbox. The email came from a person I've never known or met and everyone else was, you know, the undisclosed recipient. So you can't see. who else is this email has been sent to or so I had no idea where it came from. Anyway, I opened up the email and I started reading it and it absolutely blew my mind. It was an email from a lady that used to channel to me in Johannesburg. And, um, The email was just, it was just, I can't remember what it was about, but it was just, it was an address on love kind of thing. But anyway, I have never in all my years felt so touched and so pulled in by something so beautiful in my whole life.

14:35 And I actually, you know, being a little bit blonde and of course very blonde at that stage, I had to read it a few times to understand until it eventually clicked that this is actually from the other side, you know. Now, one thing, you know, I went through a lot of trauma in the early 90s and I lost a lot of friends to death. And one of my obsessions was always to discover that there is a world beyond this world. that there's life beyond death, that it doesn't just end here, you know? So what that email did is it absolutely rattled me, but in a beautiful way, because it was like somebody is sending me a letter saying, hello, we're out here and we can hear you and we can see you. I promise you,

15:33 I was so taken by this email. I read it again and again and again, I felt so emotional. I mean, I was in tears. I danced around the room and I couldn't believe it. I actually printed it and danced with this email. And I couldn't believe that somebody from the other side could speak to somebody and they could actually record it and print it and type it out.

15:59 It was like unheard of. I just thought, no, you know? Now, I mean, if I felt like that and I was pretty open to it, I mean, most of my other friends definitely were not. I mean, I come from a very early life of showbiz bling you know if it wasn't champagne and fur I wasn't there kind of thing you know so the people that I mixed and mingled with and a lot of my friends definitely would not they couldn't understand it and they couldn't they definitely couldn't grasp that world you know and of course then one has to go through the whole sort of process of close friends and family, you know, thinking that it's evil and being called the devil's secretary and all this kind of thing, because I'm now interested in, God forbid, when

16:51 I started channeling, oh my word, you know, that was, you can't believe it. It's just as well. I didn't have a broom because they probably would have said, take your broom and tackle. But I started getting deeply involved and The more I moved into the praying Patricia world, the less interest I had in Pardipatsi, of course, you know, that's how it happens. And I got very, very involved, very dedicated, meditated and hummed for hours every day, morning and night, very into it, very into the whole thing.

17:32 And then where I lived at the time in Durban, there wasn't much happening. So I started hosting meditations, just meditations, just group to meditate. And of course, people came and the groups grew, you know, and I started introducing people to what I was doing. And I was working with a process of Archangel Michael at the time. And he took me through, he took a group of us through a journey of about a year and a half whereby at the end of the year, at the end of the 18 months, you had to find for yourself a verdict, so to speak, of what you are putting into your life and what you want out of it and how you are going to cross that bridge. And what happened to me is when my message came through from Spirit

18:47 and Archangel Michael, it said I had to pack my bags, rent my apartment out, pack my bags, get into my car and just drive, just go. You need to learn. I needed to learn trust because trust was a huge thing. You know, I'm a Leo. I was born in the year of the Tiber, so I'm extremely controlling. And controlling is the thing I'm working on still, you know? So I never trusted anyone to the sense, you know, I needed to know kind of thing. But here I was introduced into a different world. And then eventually they took me on this huge long journey, which was absolutely incredible that I explain in detail. Like actually unbelievable. I mean, you hear it and you read it and you go, no, And that really happened, you know. Eventually I was taken

19:38 back to Durban and of course started being introduced into the process, into the world of channeling. And that also came by accident, you know, um that i set the intent and asked because the the lady that we used to get all our channeled information from at the time was very ill at times and then she used to disappear for months on end you know um it was just 2004, 2006, you know, those years was very different.

20:11 And spirituality was very different in those days. People were very, very serious. Not that they're not serious now, but they were too serious in those days. You know, everything was done in hush and behind closed doors and, you know, don't tell anybody, but please circulate and all that kind of thing. So then eventually she used to send me transcripts for me to read out to my group that I had, my meditation group, which grew and grew and grew.

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20:54 And of course, every time I would take the transcript in hand to read it out, the people that was there said my voice changed. My, my, my, my whole vibe changed. You know, it's just, they said, oh, you came like different. And I go, oh, what difference? I'm not different. You know, it's just what it is anyway. And, um, that continued until one evening when I had to host a huge group on, on the coast. And, um, Just before the meeting started, the electricity went out. The whole area went pitch black. You couldn't see a thing in front of you. And there I was sitting with the transcript ready to read it out to the group, and I couldn't see. And in those days, our cell phones didn't have flashlights and things like that. It was 2006.

21:53 It was a long time ago, 20 years nearly. And technology was 20 years back ago. So anyway, and pitch black, and I had all these people there. And the group said to me, Chanel, just sit back and relax. Just breathe. Let's see. Maybe spirit will come through. And they did. Merlin came through me the first time and did a session with the people. And, I mean, I couldn't believe it.

22:27 And then the next time after that, I also had a very, very big meeting. It was on the 8th of August, 2006, 888. And I had a massive meeting with like 100, at least 100 people there then. And I got the transcript ready to read. And as I started, you say yada, yada, yada. And as I started, the chimney came through. And I dropped the transcript, and that was it. And then, I mean, I couldn't believe it, but that carried on for quite a long time before I realized maybe we.

23:07 Should record it. And that's where we are now.

23:10 Yes.

23:10 Well, that was up until 2006, yes. And you've been channeling ever since?

23:13 Yes. Yes, I have. Yes, I have. I was very, very active for many years. And then when I started writing the book, I went on a sabbatical. I didn't channel often or all the time. And Kutumi took us through a process because he taught us a process called the new you. It's amazing. And this started in 2009 already.

23:50 And he worked through many different facets of your energy field and creating this step-by-step, literally, meditation. But what we didn't know is he was doing it over a number of years because we were only meeting every second week. It wasn't all that often. And then, of course, when I started the book, sort of slowed down and then the teachings sort of ended kind of thing because we were at the end of this incredible seven-step process that just blows your lid off. It's just amazing, absolutely incredible.

24:35 And then, of course, we moved and personal things happened. So in the last couple of years, I've done festivals and I've done channelings and presentations, et cetera, but not every week. Not every two weeks.

24:49 Yeah. Yeah.

24:51 So you mentioned the color and the chakra books, and that's become a very big part of your teachings is understanding about color and chakras. Can you explain to people? I mean, most people watching will understand what a chakra is. If not, it's an easy thing to look up. But how are you using chakras and energies that the chakras and the color specifically are doing to help transform people's lives and understand things a little bit better about what's happening to them. Okay.

25:20 So what I didn't know was back when I went through my own transition from Patti Patsy to Praying Patricia, this modality of chakras landed on my lap. I knew nothing about it. Then when I started working with it, I started mapping it. This is long before I discovered Caroline Mose. She came years later. I started mapping it and I started working with the energy and the frequency and what they actually wanted me or what I ended up doing was, you know, although chakras has got a color reflection, It's quite complicated in the sense that chakras has all the colors of the rainbow, each and every one.

26:15 You know, we sort of go, oh, red, orange, yellow, like that. No, there's so much more to it. Each chakra has every single color into it. It depends on the frequency of the spin. So the base chakra spins at the frequency of red. That's why it appears red, you know. That is the chakra's at a lower level.

26:40 When you get into a higher level of teaching, all of those colors change, you know, because the ultimate is to get the frequency of red to be transformed into the frequency of white by working extensively through the base chakra. And how they made me understand it is let's say working, for example, with color. So I initially worked with the color red. Then I would learn what the color red does.

27:16 How does it influence us physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually? And of course, I went completely overboard because I started delving into how does it affect your life? You know, your bedroom, what happens if you paint your bathroom red or your kitchen or normal things? Bring that color into your normal life, you know? And then learn the medical side of things because in my previous career, I was a therapist. So I enjoyed biology, you know? So it's bringing in the medical side to the color and then learning from the chakra how that affects whichever nerve plexus it works with at base or sacral or whatever the case may be.

28:00 And then to see how These two, the color and the chakra really balances. It's like they talk the same language or a very similar language. And they integrate it into one sort of blanket. But what really did it for me with the chakras? The chakras is like I said to somebody else the other day, you know, each and every one of us have chakras. If you've got an auric field, you've got chakras. If you are a human, you've got chakras. If you're an animal, you've got chakras.

28:38 So what chakras are is they are energy centers situated throughout our body, physical and our psyche. And each one works with specific energy and a specific frequency. So when you work and you climb the tree, you work with deep, deep sort of issues or stuff you need to get through or stuff you need to learn to transcend yourself, to transcend your problems, to transcend your limitations, to get over your addictions if you can, to get over this, you know, to don't get sucked in by the world and the whole sort of, travesty of money and all this kind of thing. So that's what the chakras taught me is it raised my frequency from a very limited kind of outlook to actually understand myself better as a

29:45 being you know because in between all this I've always accepted the fact that this is a human experience but the actual situation is spiritual you know We are spirits having a human experience. We come back. We do it again. We do it some more. And there's so much more to it. So this body we take on right now is just a vehicle. But working with the chakras, one understands how that actually changes your psyche.

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30:33 It's a system like many other systems, and it's a system of amazing psychology.

30:38 Yeah.

30:39 Well, do you think we could bring in the master now?

30:43 We can, if you like. Yeah, sure.

30:45 And what is your process? How do you get into it? How do you get out of it? How do you feel when you're doing it? Get out of it. Okay.

30:52 So for me, what happens is I was given a very short activation to go through. After the activation, I do, well, I obviously do a visualization, but I already feel the frequency of spirit hanging around, you know, because they of course work through your pineal pituitary and all of that first. So to me is, is I start tapping into this golden frequency and that, sort of elevates me and pushes me up into this tube of light. And from there, I have an invocation that I actually physically share, which Kutumi gave me to work with, because initially I didn't know what to do. You know, I was such a rookie and I didn't.

31:47 Know, I was too sort of scared of this and scared of that and So then he gave me a process and he said, okay, fine, just behave yourself, relax.

31:57 Now this is what you're going to work through. And from here, you are going to go into an altered state of consciousness. And as always, we will then meet you three quarters of the way. Pineal, pituitary, huge pressure in the head. And then as soon as the energy of the master comes through, it's like, like, You relax.

32:24 It's like a vacuum that just opens up. And then, of course, he speaks. And I initially usually have my eyes closed, sometimes lately open, depending on what the situation is. I go into an altered state. So even though I speak, so much is said usually that it's too fast for me or too much for me to remember. or to recollect. Afterwards, ideas do come back. And at the time when that happens, me, Chanel, is sort of somewhere else, by the neighbors, you know, having a cup of tea over there, walking across the road over there, listening to the birds. Because as you know, and as channels know is the worst thing you can do is try to interfere. And I think that was the whole, the beauty of it is, is to be

33:32 able to completely relax and surrender and to let go and to trust, you know, which is that ordination that took me on. I mean, that ordination that took me on in, in my book is just, it's from another planet and, um, It's those trust levels that I had to learn and surrender into.

33:58 All right.

33:59 So that is how it happens. And then, of course, we talk and whatever. And I suppose you have some questions. And when we finish, then the energy releases itself. And that's that.

34:12 And do you feel energetic or do you feel drained?

34:17 No, no, no, no. In the beginning, I used to feel drained in the first sort of 10 years, 15 years. But after that, you learn a process of detachment, you know? So you try not to get it. That's the whole thing is when you get involved, when you as a human try to get involved with the conversation, that's when it drains your energy. But if you just let it go and let it say, yes, sure. One gets tired, you know, especially afterwards. Um, for a couple of hours afterwards or sometimes I can have a huge spurt of energy straight after and have a wonderful time and then suddenly like three hours later I'm like oh I think I need to rest now yeah so it just depends it just depends but you know it's like anything else

35:08 you do when when you give that's like with the chakras you know when you give something willingly it cannot drain you of your power but If you are forced to give it, that's when it sucks you dry, you know? So it's the same thing. I mean, in life, really, we know, you know, when you walk into a room and you're meeting a whole lot of people and you don't know anyone, you know, it's your eighth chakra that zooms around the room to try and see who there is that you're going to connect with, you know? whose language are you speaking kind of thing. And when you get to the right group and you tap into them, you can go, you know, you can talk, even though you don't know anybody, you get to the wrong group.

36:00 It's going to either, either you're going to suck somebody else's energy or they're going to suck yours, you know? And that's what the whole give and take frequency is about. And that's in the chakras. I mean, You know, it's quite amazing. I mean, the ascended masters that oversees us actually reads our frequency in our eighth chakra, but that is not quite the eighth chakra. It's more the soul star kind of thing. And that's not where the soul lives.

36:29 The soul lives everywhere. It's all over, you know, absolutely everywhere. There's no one specific place where the soul lives, but that's where they read us. It's like a radar system. So for me, when I do a channeling and I allow that to take me into its frequency, it's like tuning a radio station. Then the draining is not so bad.

36:52 But obviously, you know, over the years, you're always nervous. You're always going to be nervous. I mean, I've been sort of some people have channeled for 40 years and I've been channeling 10, 20 years and I'm still nervous. I don't think that will ever go away.

37:09 That's very true. Very true. All right, so let's bring in the Master.

37:15 I call upon and give thanks to our Holy God for allowing us this process of communication. I call upon the nine beings of light that oversees my energy field to create a portal of light around me. I call upon the presence of Archangel Michael, Lord Jesus, the Christ, Lord Metatron, Saint Germain, Lord Kutumi, Lord Maitreya, Lord Melchizedek, Archangel Ariel, and Lord Pinesh, to protect us against all negativity projected towards us by any and all beings, consciously and unconsciously, incarnate and discarnate, from the north, the south, the east, the west, from above, from below us, also from within, to ground us within the light of Christ, that at any and all times we are fully grounded, fully protected, and fully connected, to bless us with his

38:07 excalibur sword of truth, so that our truth always is and remains a communicating and motivating force in life. I ask that all that is shared this day is shared with the greatest of integrity, truth. So be.

38:24 It.

38:25 When I come forward upon the rays of love and wisdom to greet thee at this time and to gift unto thee a divine blessing, of inspiration. Greetings, brother. It is with great joy and with great pleasure within our hearts that we gather with you upon this day as we hold each one here firmly within the heart of Christ and securely upon the hands of God. Now that remains one of my favorite entrances, so to speak. I have many. But that certainly remains one of my favorite.

39:12 It was a introduction that was taught to a previous channel. And of course, with this channel so excited about that, we have decided to keep that for her at most times. Greetings, brother.

39:28 Greetings. Thank you so much. much for being here my first question is what is happening energetically on earth right now that that humanity most needs.

39:38 To understand the long and the short of that dear brother is the fact that and this is a difficult one i mean that is a difficult question because There is no easy way out for that question. The long and the short of it is humanity needs to get to a stage where they truly submerge themselves and understand that the human experience is just a part of their earth experience. Or if they begin to understand themselves spiritually or as a spirit.

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40:29 They will understand a different concept of themselves and they will begin to lessen the frequency and the pressure that is placed upon them through laws of governance, laws of of this land, laws of the politicians, laws of the rulers, and above all, to create for themselves a new platform where greed no longer exists, where judgment is not a part of their reality. And when you let go of these lower frequencies, you must birth yourself into something amazing and something incredible. And when that happens, that is when the sensitivity will begin to lift from them because they will understand this world from a bigger picture. They will see it from a different angle. And as always, we teach to have gratitude in your heart, in your life,

41:45 in your space, in your reality. But It's very easy to say, I'm thankful for this and I have gratitude towards that. You see, very often humanity needs to face some sort of a controversy, some sort of a conflict, some sort of a challenge for them to actually realize the gifts that are staring them in the face. Does that answer your question?

42:15 It does, it does. How do you view the collective awakening that we're all experiencing and is it unfolding as intended?

42:24 It is fantastic. It is fantastic. Beloved brother, when you go back in time, shall we say, many years, let me rephrase that, about 40, 50 years ago, A time speculation was given for the awakening of humanity. And after that, much unfolded through the harmonic concordance, the harmonic convergence. Then, of course, the bypass of all the trauma and the drama that everyone expected in the Y2K. And of course, beyond that, the next doorway that flung right open was the 1111. which was the 12th of December, 2012 to the period 21, 12, 12. Now, those doorways were like entry points for new frequencies, new light to come in.

43:34 And with that, a new upliftment of awakening is taking place on this planet faster and quicker than ever. Many realize, well, you see, they are the ones that say time is moving too fast and humanity is awakening too slow. We can't wait for this. It's got to move on. But much has to be in place for this to take place.

44:04 Much has to be organized for this to take place. And that is what lightworkers such as yourself and millions of others are preparing is for greater influx of light, which will bring with it greater awakening, mass awakening. When I say mass awakening, I don't mean the movie style, the mass awakening in the movies. I mean mass awakening on an unconscious level, on a subconscious level. And beloved brother, that is already happening. Or even if you just see how life has changed in the last 15 years, 10 years, five years, two years, one year, you must understand that things are shifting and things are moving. I mean, even now in this very podcast that you have made such success of and that is so needed, the frequency around

45:06 it has changed so much for people are now more open towards that which they were previously pretty closed off about, you know? So therefore, To answer your question more specifically, years ago we said it's going to take a thousand years. Then we said it's going to take 700 years. Not so long ago, not so long ago, it was said that the full awakening for humanity will be about 350, 450 years from now, because much has to happen for the grand scale to awaken to the sense of realizing exactly what is happening here. Much has to awaken. But now we're saying, with influx of new energies, powerful energies, and huge surprises that are installed for humanity. For example, you have one of them on its way here.

46:20 Yes.

46:21 The three eye Atlas, which will bring through a whole new way of seeing things for that is what these frequencies are about. I mean, everybody is aware of the fact that comments bring consciousness comments, bring love comments, brings a change. And with each change, something amazing happens that shifts that year. So if you ask me, how long will it take? I will truly have to say to you, it depends on humanity. But at this stage, even though it doesn't seem like it, it's going very well. Why doesn't it seem like it? Because you have to get rid of the dirt. You have to clean out, like I've recently explained to somebody, you have to clean out the closets. You cannot do a spring clean in your house without taking the carpets out. You have to clean everything.

47:19 And that is what's busy happening. This planet is busy cleaning up, even though it doesn't seem like it. For you must remember, this planet was destined to disaster with the previous energies that was planned, et cetera. But it's no more. You know, Armageddon. is not going to grab you by the pants and shake you around the room. No, it's not. It is not. There is a new energy that is being birthed. And that is the energy of the new human, the new you. Call it what you want.

47:56 You can label it as you wish, but there's a new frequency. And that frequency has to do with the awakening human. In other words, The thinning of the veils and the understanding of how you work as a being. That you have a brain, but you have a mind too. Yes. That you have a very creative right brain and a very controlling or linear left brain. And the two has to work together. The divine masculine feminine has to dance together.

48:31 Because in that way, like I say, with one of my favorite expressions, is you've got to learn to dance with your shadow. Because if you try and run away from it, you're just going to get very tired at the end and no end. Does that answer your question?

48:47 It does. It does. Where do you see humanity in the next five, the next 10 years? Because things, as you were saying, are so swirled up, are so... You know, intense right now because we are going through this massive upheaval and change of old systems crumbling and new systems being built and new energies coming in. So a lot of people are afraid. They want to know what will happen in the next five years, in the next 10 years.

49:15 Humanity needs to learn to rid themselves of the clutches of fear. because fear is an illusion at most times. It plays on the emotional and the mental body, and it's often created within the mind. So if one can let go of the fear, of what if, then perhaps a whole new divine process can unfold that will give to you an amazing opportunity to expand your life and yourself in ways you didn't even dream because of the fear that kept you back, that kept you back.

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50:11 That is the one process that humanity has to see at this time. The second process that is unfolding and that has to be in place for many, many to be in a space of complete peace, beloved brother, is one has to learn the value of truth, trust, and respect. And having said that, having said that, one must learn, like the teachings that I have taught through this particular channel on the ascension chakras and the codes of expansion.

50:55 Humanity needs to discover that their heart is not just a pump. It is way more than that. It has an energy and an intelligence of itself. And within that, lies every tool that can release you from the lower density and the clutches of fear. And that is the tool of transition and forgiveness. Yes. So that is two energies that must be worked on. When it comes to the levels of trust and truth, the most challenging thing for humanity to understand at this time, and it's evident, it's evident everywhere, is the fact that each and every one wants to know their truth. Each and every one wants to claim their truth, but none of them are prepared to allow another to express their truth. Now, what is the truth? There are many different truths. There are

51:58 many illusions. There are many truths. There are many levels that you can work with to get yourself out of this lower frustration, out of this lower clutches. And when you can do that, I see a brilliant bright future ahead for humanity. Beloved brother, the other thing I have to mention here is because of these new frequencies that are literally bombarding your planet as we speak and have through all the gates, the portals, the new moons, the full moons, the solstices, the equinoxes, all the celebrations, all of the portals of the divine feminine and the new divine masculine, through all of these energies that has been gifted to your planet, the understanding therein is that there are many truths. Truth is not something you can put

52:56 in a box. Truth is something you need to live. How do you live your own truth? You need to discover who you are. And that's where the teachings of the masters come in. The masters usually prefer to work with a set teaching program because those are the successes from the grand mystery schools that we know is tried and tested. And the only way you can do it and the only way humanity is going to get through it, beloved brother, is to get to know themselves, love themselves, and of course, practice joy. Yes. Does that answer your question?

53:53 It does. It does. Well, let me ask you, how will technology and spirituality begin to merge as consciousness expands?

54:02 It already has. It already has. Technology and spirituality together is what we call cosmic science. It already has. Beloved brother, when you look at the world of quantum energy beyond this plane, There is no way one can understand it in a linear mind. Each and every one of the beings that call themselves astronauts on your planet that have been fortunate enough to spend time in space, wherever they've been, none of them come back the same. Why? because they see the signs of vastness around them. They see the science and the miracle of creation around them. And they realize how infinitely small yet big they are. That they serve as a conduit to discover new energies and new sciences.

55:23 And at the same time, through technology is able to send that into humanity. Now, people on a spiritual path, lightworkers, channelers, readers, every single one. And I must say, I do not enjoy to bring separation into it because you all channel. You are all psychic. Beloved brother, you are very intuitive, believe it or not. You keep pushing against it, but that is the truth. So you all have the gifts or the gift of the gab, as you say on this planet. And therefore, through the art of your own science, using the frequency of the mind, the emotions, heart pulse, the electric and magnetic frequencies between the brain and the heart, and how that actually taps into the further frequency of the cosmic waves that are surrounding your planet and surrounding

56:44 everything and anything else. That is how the technology of humanity actually brings through the science of spirit to the people on another level to try and understand it. But you must understand what you perceive yourself to be as a human. I'm not saying you, I'm using your example just as an example. What humanity seem to think they are as a human is in fact much, much more.

57:16 They only know the top of the iceberg and if they could only understand that beyond this is just such a grand, Plateau waiting for them to awaken, waiting for them to step into, waiting for them to embrace. They will begin to enjoy what technology gives you. Not let it enjoy you. One of my favorite expressions. Have what you want. Enjoy it. But don't let it enjoy you.

57:50 Because then the energy is shifted. then the energy is shifted. Do what you want, have what you want, but don't let it have you. Then you've got a problem. So as long as humanity can understand that AI or technology can be used to the most incredible advancement for humanity, breakthrough science in the medical world, in medicine, In worlds, I can't even begin to express at this stage. And of course, humanity will say, but to me, you must express.

58:35 And I'll say, as I always do, you don't need to know everything. There are some things you don't need to know. But what you do need to know, what you do need to know is that you are fantastic as a human, that your frequency changes. is so incredible that nothing can beat it. Beloved brother, you are the ones, you are the very ones training this technology to assist you.

59:09 As long as you understand that that is technology and this is you and you don't expect that technology to run your life for you, make your decisions for you, control you in an abundant or prosperous way or open doors for you where money is just going to roll in or become your lover, then that's a very good thing.

59:33 It can be your friend. Yes?

59:36 Yes.

59:37 Next question is, will earth itself undergo physical changes that mirror our own spiritual awakening?

59:45 Beloved brother, when you walk in a forest and you have love in your heart, When you stand in nature and you glance upon a beautiful lake or a magnificent mountain, or you hold one of her dear elements, one of her crystals in your hand or a flower, that frequency that you feel, that emotion, that drive in there, the earth responds to. For you understand, you know more than anyone else that the earth has a consciousness. Gaia has a consciousness. And the earth responds to everything we do.

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1:00:56 When you are choose to take on a lifetime on this planet. Gaia knows about it. She knows you. Your name is already inscribed in the cave of consciousness, or as some call it, or most call it, the Akash. She knows you. She knows of you. And when you express that beauty and that love from yourself, she reacts to you. Now, if humanity can take that love and infiltrated into the cities. Because we do understand you need to have cities. You know, you need to have commerce.

1:01:35 You need to have business. Look, the last thing that is ever expected of you as a soul spirit being is to go and live on top of a mountain in an ashram and sit and hum 24-7. It's not expected of you. You are expected to live your life according to you. You are the one that makes the mistakes according to you. And that's why if you can learn that your frequency affects the planet, this planet will blossom because of you. It will. And to try and answer that question in a nice or in a roundabout way, the effect that this planet will have will depend on you. So, How are you going to treat her? She's pride. She shakes herself about. And of course, just when humanity think that they have taken complete control of her, she shows

1:02:41 them other ones. Not to be spiteful, but rather to be like a mother. Because we keep stressing that when you go through a traumatic time in your life, that's when you learn. And I understand it, beloved brother. I understand that. At the time of trauma, it is very difficult to understand that, oh, yay, you are now going through amazing transformation. It is difficult. And I understand that.

1:03:17 And nobody is expecting that of you. But once you transcend that, then a new platform is gifted onto you. So if you can, focus yourself and your life just from very small to bigger, to making the world around you beautiful, your entire planet will blossom because the years of the Aquarian age are ahead of you. Beautiful years, years of sunshine and roses and dancing. Yes.

1:03:49 You mentioned the three-eye atlas. Can you kind of dive in a little bit on what the effect of three-eye atlas will be on on humanity, its consciousness, and on the planet itself?

1:03:59 Well, I have to say a massive shift in consciousness. That's what it's come to do. You know the basics of comets and how they bring through new energies through the elemental makeup, through the crystalline makeup, through the sort of elemental frequencies that they bring, the water, etc., This particular comment is bringing through a whole new way of looking at things because that is what this planet is absolutely craving. So apart from bringing through a new way of looking at things and a new way of understanding things, it's bringing through seeds, memory seeds that it is seeding into the collective so that humanity on a larger scale and as a whole will begin to see themselves as part of a growing concern, a growing project. Humanity is evolving.

1:05:16 They need to see themselves as an evolving being and not do everything in their power to try and kill each other every minute they have and judge each other and blasphemize against each other. Humanity needs to understand that there's something far greater than them and that's love and that's creation. But they also need to understand that creation will do absolutely everything in its power to assist humanity.

1:05:47 And therefore it has the ascended masters, masters and all sorts of things in place, including the comet Jupiter. and three I Atlas, which is seeding new memory atoms within your atmosphere that will be integrated into the collective conscious to make a difference and to shake this world up and to do it through love.

1:06:14 How do you foresee the golden age of manifesting and what will it feel like to live within it?

1:06:21 The golden age is definitely That's what I mentioned earlier on. When I said initially it used to, when somebody asked, it took a thousand years. Now I'm going to tell you that the golden age at this particular stage of your time zone in this particular timeline is about 350 to 400 years away because much has to be done for it to be coming to complete fruition. Beloved brother, the golden age is going to be a fifth dimensional way of thinking, but it's way beyond that. You must understand that as this channel mentioned earlier, which I need to just bring in, with the changing of the colors in your Shafiq system, when a person is at one level, They need to learn the system as is it given, the red, orange, yellow, green, blue, whatever. And when a

1:07:23 person evolves and they begin to ascend, because that is your ascension, is an ascension in consciousness. When that person evolves and begins to ascend its own ladder of consciousness, it comes to understand that that frequency has now changed into white light. violet into golden, into golden ruby, into pink.

1:07:48 The whole thing has changed. Now, the same goes for the golden years. When the people or the persons or the beautiful, beautiful life of souls that are ready to walk into a fifth dimensional way of thinking, which already is starting, although you're not there yet, they will begin to spread that understanding of pure thought of being able to walk into a place and nobody can lie anymore.

1:08:26 Nobody can pull wool over one another's eye anymore. Nobody can put one another down anymore because everyone is on a different vibrational frequency of thought a higher level a purer level of understanding called the fifth dimension now that is what the golden years are about because you are moving into years of golden consciousness will there be problems yes will you be able to handle them yourself yes in a better way in a less conflicting way will there be better support and understanding for one another yes there will be tolerance yes all of these things will be there why because you will begin to awaken to your truth and to understand that your truth includes the gift of allowing another theirs as you want your truth

1:09:22 you have to allow another theirs for there is no one decision there is no one way it is all the way and that is where the golden years or the or the new earth frequency where people will move into a similar timeline of balance of love and of.

1:09:47 Bliss yes And my brother, do you have any final messages or blessings you would offer humanity as we continue our collective journey towards the light?

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1:10:08 Beloved brethren, love yourself. Learn as much as you can about yourself. And I'm not referring to you. I'm talking about humanity as a whole. Learn to understand yourself. Learn that there is so much more to life than just that which you see. And therefore allow another the same passage that you so desire. the passage of peace, the passage of abundance, and the passage of living your best life.

1:11:01 Thank you.

1:11:02 Thank you.

1:11:04 You have to just give thanks to Spirit for this communication.

1:11:14 How are you doing? How are you doing?

1:11:19 Yeah.

1:11:21 Good.

1:11:21 You'll have to watch the episode back to get all the amazing wisdom that he laid on us today.

1:11:28 I will have to. Like I said, sometimes you can speak very fast at times and nobody can hear, as you know. All the channels say that we can tune into the frequency, but apparently we can't record it. I mean, I was horrified. You shows you how behind at times I am. I was horrified just to find out that CD stops. The other day I was trying to find a CD player and nobody could help me. I said, what?

1:12:00 When did that happen?

1:12:02 I think the best you could do is get a DVD player or a Blu-ray player and that play CD.

1:12:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:12:12 Or go on eBay.

1:12:14 Yes, yes. So let's hope we all tune into the right frequency. Sorry about that.

1:12:22 No worries, no worries. Where can people find your book from Party Patsy to Praying Patricia and find out more about the amazing book? You must read it.

1:12:30 You will laugh. You will laugh. It's fun. It's not the normal kind of book because I believe in humor and bringing humor into it, you know, and it's very real. It's real, as real as life can be for all of us. And each one of us will find something in their shirt. It's available on all leading platforms, Amazon and all the other leading platforms online. Yes. In paperback and in Kindle. Yeah.

1:13:00 And how about your website? Do you have a website?

1:13:03 Vision of the Heart, www.visionoftheheart.co.za. Yes. We have a website. We have a YouTube channel people can subscribe to. You know, for a very long time, I've just taken a backseat. I haven't sort of come out. We are now releasing a process at the moment through the Sedona Journal that I channeled in 2012. So for many years, a lot of the stuff that was kept back and said, not yet, don't release it yet, don't release it yet. So what I would like to do is step into this, and that's what I'm hoping this amazing, beautiful platform of yours will help me with, is to stop hiding away in the corner and give onto the world all the incredible information that's come through in all these years, amazing information.

1:14:00 So we will do, obviously, online teachings, et cetera, and people can see that on our website and, of course, Our YouTube channel and our mailing list, et cetera, et cetera. And of course all the other things I do, the quick readings. The one thing I need to just tell you is that I love, I don't like doing readings.

1:14:22 I had a huge thing years ago about being Catholic and readings. I'm sure you can understand what I'm saying. And when I started overcoming that, Spirit showed me a really, really nice way to do readings for children. But it's not called readings. It's called a personality overview for children that I enjoy doing. That's on my website. I enjoy doing it a lot. It's not a futuristic way of telling you what's going to happen to the child. It's helping with their soul essence. That's all there is. And of course, I do spot card draws and things like that.

1:14:58 Just to give people a quick insight on what the story is about. And in fact, if you'll allow me, I did one on you.

1:15:07 Oh, did you now? Sure, please. Thank you.

1:15:11 I asked your higher self first. I got permission from your higher self to do this.

1:15:17 My higher self just all the time is just, you know, bringing me out.

1:15:25 That goes for all of us, Alex. I believe the time of hiding away in the ditches is gone. We now need to move along. Okay, so what I did very quickly is I did a quick analysis on your name and color. Alex Ferrari, you're actually very balanced because you've got the red, you've got the yellow, you've got the blue, you've got the three primaries. So you are incredibly balanced, but your energy field leans more towards mental.

1:15:50 So you are what I call a yellow personality. And because of that, you are extremely adaptable. I'm just going to go through this because you can't remember it all, you know, you're extremely adaptable and you are Your constant struggle is between your mental and emotional fields that you need to work through, you know, to bring that into balance.

1:16:11 And when you are unhappy, you're not well. When you are unhappy, you don't, you even develop illness. You've got what they call an amazing gift. You can bring on an illness as you feel it to be, and then you can actually let go of it as you feel it to be. You know, that's one of the processes of yellow because you're so adaptable. You're extremely psychic. You speak what you think, and sometimes you speak too quick what you think, okay? But that is part of your process.

1:16:42 It's what you need to do. Because you're a leader, you're a warrior, and you're very determined. You are an extremely good negotiator, and you are extremely powerful at mastering the plan of your life. But rejection is a huge thing that you can't handle with. especially when it comes to personal rejection, which most of us, but as a yellow personality, there's an extra little thing there that says, gosh, no, I'm paining, I'm hurting. Anyway, I was then asked just to look at the chakra and the chakra that came through for you at the time when I did it is your heart chakra, all right? And your heart chakra is, of course, is amazing. But sometimes what it's saying is you sometimes need to learn to love yourself more than

1:17:33 you give time to others because you are sometimes not loving yourself enough. You give yourself and you give and give and give and give and you sometimes forget about Alex. And at that particular time, when I asked, I said, what can be done? They said, it seems like you need to spend more time in nature. Seems like you need, the words were fresh air. You need it fresh air.

1:17:58 So wherever you feel happy with fresh air, I think that's what, and by fresh air, I don't mean walking out your studio. It's maybe you need a vacation, Alex. Maybe you need to go on a vacay. Yes. Yeah. And of course, finally, the card that I drew for you was the alignment card, which is an amazing card of great courage. And it shows that you are definitely on the right path. Okay. It shows that you need to trust your vision. You need to trust what you're doing because what you're doing is incredible. It's amazing. And it's actually going to go from strength to strength to strength.

1:18:40 It's going to grow bigger. It also says at the time there was a bit of discrepancy or unhappiness with either a close friend or a family, okay, in the last week or so. Just let it go, love and move on. And of course, if you want to energize yourself, visualize the colors of red and orange, let this balance your physical, your mental and emotional, because it's pretty balanced, you know, but sometimes the mind It takes control and it takes over. And just you meditate, you do all those things. And then just to let it be. You are going to move into much bigger success and abundance than what you have at the moment. When you are unsure, pray and ask for guidance because they're always there listening

1:19:27 to you. And stop saying you can't hear them because they can hear you. And they know that you are there because you are extremely intuitive. You're an amazing person and you just need to embrace that. How's that?

1:19:42 Thank you so much for that. That's so wonderful and so humbling. I truly appreciate that, my dear. Do you have any final messages or blessings for the audience before we go?

1:19:53 Love your life to the fullest. Dream your highest dreams. Don't give up.

1:20:01 Chanel, thank you so much for being here. This is such a beautiful exchange of energy and I'm looking forward to getting this out into the world. And I appreciate everything you are doing to awaken the planet. So thank you so much.

1:20:14 Thank you. Thank you, Alex. I appreciate this.

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