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What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?

On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.

Together we ask:

How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?

What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?

Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?

How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?

If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.

Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.

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  1. 286: Donna Jackson Nakazawa: How to Stop Ruminating

    Can’t stop replaying what you wish you had said to someone instead? Or maybe your inner monologue won’t stop asking, "What did they mean by that comment?” Our guest today explains the function of our mental ruminations and how to stop them.

  2. 285: Unabridged interview: Iain McGilchrist (Part 1)

    This is Part 1 of our unabridged interview with Iain McGilchrist. Modernity has helped us to use the world. We have reduced it to resources to extract, data to process, problems to solve. While it has made us powerful, it has also left the

  3. 285: Unabridged interview: Iain McGilchrist (Part 2)

    This is Part 2 of our unabridged interview with Iain McGilchrist. Modernity has helped us to use the world. We have reduced it to resources to extract, data to process, problems to solve. While it has made us powerful, it has also left the

  4. The Subtext: Savannah Wants You To Love Brandon Flowers’ THRASHER As Much As She Does

    It's the day we've all (mostly Savannah's) been waiting for. This week, Lee and Savannah do a deep dive into Brandon Flowers’ THRASHER! It's a record about belonging and nostalgia, and it was recorded live in Nashville by some of the greats

  5. 285: Iain McGilchrist: Why the World Feels Flat (The Ache, Pt. 3)

    Modernity has helped us to use the world. We have reduced it to resources to extract, data to process, problems to solve. While it has made us powerful, it has also left the world feeling flat, and left us feeling eerily like machines ourse

  6. 284: Unabridged Interview: Alister McGrath

    This is our unabridged interview with Alister McGrath. Science can explain the world in an incredibly helpful way, but scientific facts alone can't tell us what our lives are for. In a world shaped by modernity, it can be wildly tempting to

  7. The Subtext: Aslan is a Woman…Should You Care?

    Meryl Streep is the voice of Aslan in Greta Gerwig's Narnia adaptation. Is this a threat to Christian orthodoxy or another culture-war distraction? This week on The Subtext, Savannah and Lee discuss the casting controversy and dive into big

  8. 284: Alister McGrath: Science and Faith Were Never at War (The Ache, Pt. 2)

    Science can explain the world in an incredibly helpful way, but scientific facts alone can't tell us what our lives are for. In a world shaped by modernity, it can be wildly tempting to chuck religion altogether. But with science alone, we

  9. 283: Unabridged Interview: Belle Tindall-Riley

    This is our unabridged interview with Belle Tindall-Riley. Institutional religion is off the menu for many these days. But walk to the edge of the Glastonbury music festival, and you'll find a packed field people waiting an hour in line to

  10. The Subtext: The Separation of Church & Business

    Is a $4,500 networking trip to Mar-a-Lago okay if it's for the kingdom? This week on The Subtext, Lee and Savannah unpack problematic Christian wealth seminars promising financial success for “kingdom impact." They explore the power of prox

  11. 283: Belle Tindall-Riley: Spiritual but Not Religious (The Ache, Pt. 1)

    Institutional religion is off the menu for many these days. But walk to the edge of the Glastonbury music festival, and you'll find a packed field people waiting an hour in line to buy crystals, get tarot readings, and have a sound bath fro

  12. 282: Unabridged Interview: Kristin Kobes Du Mez

    This is our unabridged interview with Kristin Kobes Du Mez. That "Live, Laugh, Love" sign at Target isn't just decor. It's a theological statement, and it has a 150-year history most of us have never heard. Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez, a

  13. The Subtext: Macklemore, Ed Sheeran, and Vanity Politics

    This week on The Subtext: Macklemore, Ed Sheeran, free speech, and the billionaire power behind the music business. Lee and Savannah unpack the controversy, looking to Dolly Parton as a guide. What happens when public outrage becomes a puri

  14. 282: Kristin Kobes Du Mez: The Secret History of White Christian Women

    That "Live, Laugh, Love" sign at Target isn't just decor. It's a theological statement, and it has a 150-year history most of us have never heard. Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez, author of the New York Times bestseller ⁠Jesus and John Wayne

  15. 281: Unabridged Interview: Annie F. Downs

    This is our unabridged interview with Annie F. Downs. What's holding you back from your dreams? Annie F. Downs wants to help you diagnose and respond to that question. She says often what’s holding you back is rooted in something that was e

  16. The Subtext: How to Leave Your Church - Ask Us Anything 2

    It’s the first birthday of The Subtext! Savannah and Lee celebrate with an “Ask Us Everything” episode, answering listener questions about Bible translations, music, patriotism, how to leave your church community, and more. Thank you to eve

  17. 281: Annie F. Downs: What’s Holding You Back?

    What's holding you back from your dreams? Annie F. Downs wants to help you diagnose and respond to that question. She says often what’s holding you back is rooted in something that was either stolen, killed, or destroyed. In this conversati

  18. 280: Unabridged Interview: Marisa Franco

    This is our unabridged interview with Marisa Franco. Attachment theory is trendy right now, and the goal is often the coveted title of "securely attached." If you’re that, then you're always calm, never spiraling, never needing anyone to ho

  19. The Subtext: Gen Z’s Speaking Problem, Revisiting Nate Bargatze, Meta’s Child Safety Settlement

    Turns out, Gen Z is talking less, scrolling more, and forgetting how to be human. This week, Savannah and Lee unpack the surprising decline in everyday conversation and why talking to strangers actually matters. Then a listener’s question p

  20. 280: Marisa Franco: Why Secure-ish Beats Perfectly Secure

    Attachment theory is trendy right now, and the goal is often the coveted title of "securely attached." If you’re that, then you're always calm, never spiraling, never needing anyone to hold your feelings for you. Psychologist Marisa Franco

  21. 279: Unabridged Interview: Steve Cuss

    This is our unabridged interview with Steve Cuss. Anxiety is contagious, and most of us catch it without noticing: from a tense meeting, a hard conversation, a parent, a group chat. After an emergency, an ER doctor pulled a young hospital c

  22. The Subtext: Who Gets to Judge You? Suddenly Amish and the Myth of the Unjudged Self

    Six 'English' strangers try to go Amish for a month, surfacing big questions about autonomy, conformity, vanity, and discernment. This week we're talking about TLC's Suddenly Amish, a (very scripted) reality show where six outsiders spend a

  23. 279: Steve Cuss: Five False Needs That Are Quietly Running Your Life

    Anxiety is contagious, and most of us catch it without noticing: from a tense meeting, a hard conversation, a parent, a group chat. After an emergency, an ER doctor pulled a young hospital chaplain aside and gave him some life-changing advi

  24. 278: Unabridged Interview: Michele Norris

    This is our unabridged interview with Michele Norris. As we practice the good life with a bit of rest, we asked four of our team members to choose one of their favorite episodes and explain why. Cariad’s summer staff pick — Michele Norris:

  25. The Subtext: Lindsay Clancy & the Question of Justice

    In this episode, Lee and Savannah talk about the ways Lindsay Clancy’s trial is sparking conversations around mental health, justice, and culpability. This week, we tackle a story listeners have been asking us to cover: the case of Lindsay

  26. 278: Summer Staff Picks: Michele Norris

    As we practice the good life with a bit of rest, we asked four of our team members to choose one of their favorite episodes and explain why. Cariad’s summer staff pick — Michele Norris: Race, Your Story, 6 Words, Please Send “I wanted to cr

  27. 277: Unabridged Interview: Kristin Neff

    This is our unabridged interview with Kristin Neff. As we practice the good life with a bit of rest, we asked four of our team members to choose one of their favorite episodes and explain why. Jakob’s summer staff pick — Kristin Neff: The P

  28. The Subtext: Flock Cameras, Hank Green, and Revisiting Skinny Culture

    This week, we look at AI purity tests and mass surveillance, then circle back to an ongoing conversation: should social media commentary on people's bodies be off-limits? We're digging into the Hank Green AI backlash and how AI use has beco

  29. 277: Summer Staff Picks: Kristin Neff

    As we practice the good life with a bit of rest, we asked four of our team members to choose one of their favorite episodes and explain why. Jakob’s summer staff pick — Kristin Neff: The Power of Self Compassion Is high self-esteem crucial

  30. 276: Unabridged Interview: Oliver Burkeman

    This is our unabridged interview with Oliver Burkeman. As we practice the good life with a bit of rest, we asked four of our team members to choose one of their favorite episodes and explain why. Lee’s co-host on The Subtext Savannah’s summ

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