Minder, the Finder, and the Grinder with Elise Hu

Elise Hu joins us for a tale of startup bros and the hermit crabs that come between them.
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Episode transcript here (docs.google.com/document/d/1laiBUECuGk9Db-m_VS…).
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Normal Gossip is hosted by Kelsey McKinney (@mckinneykelsey (instagram.com/mckinneykelsey)) and produced by Alex Sujong Laughlin (@alexlaughs (instagram.com/alexlaughs)) and Ozzy Llinas Goodman. Jae Towle Vieira (@jaetowlevieira (instagram.com/jaetowlevieira?igshid=MzRlODBiNW…)) is our associate producer. Abigail Segel (@AbigailSegel (twitter.com/AbigailSegel)) is our intern. Justin Ellis is Defector's projects editor.
Show art by Tara Jacoby.
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