Data-backed competitive tiredness (with Caitlin Moran)

Fi 's spun the hypothetical wheel of co-presenters today and landed on Rosie. On today's agenda: mental load and why it's not always a bad thing, England's crash out of the supermarket world cup and a minor disagreement on the art deco façade of the Bury St Edmunds M&S. Niche? Us?

Plus, Fi chats to Caitlin Moran on her new book How to Be Hopeful

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