How to Stay in Love with Your Soul Mate, with Special Guest Ester Brooks

Thirty-five years ago, I somehow convinced an extraordinary woman to marry me. Our relationship began like any other—attraction, a leap of faith, and eventually the decision to embark on the unknown journey ahead of us together.
In this episode of Office Hours, my wife, Ester Munt-Brooks, and I reflect on what we’ve learned over 35 years of choosing each other—from the risks we took early on, to why love is much more than a feeling. Drawing on the wisdom of Thomas Aquinas, we explore what it truly means to love—and how that understanding can transform every relationship.
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Where to find Ester Munt-Brooks:
• Website: fevaloryalegria.org
• YouTube: youtube.com/user/estermunt
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(08:55) Arthur and Ester’s love story
(14:02) The risks they took to give it a shot
(19:30) How Ester came to embrace marriage
(24:36) The next stage: Marriage and children
(28:05) St. Thomas Aquinas’s definition of love
(45:20) What’s coming up in future episodes on love
(46:04) The three big love lessons
(49:26) Q&A: Personalizing a morning routine for your needs
(55:06) Q&A: How to think about faith while dating
(57:54) Q&A: How having children impacts happiness
(1:02:30) Q&A: How to meet people in person
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Referenced:
• The Meaning of Your Life: Finding Purpose in an Age of Emptiness: arthurbrooks.com/the-meaning-of-your-life
• Meaning Membership:hub.arthurbrooks.com/the-meaning-membership
• Arthur’s newsletter:arthurbrooks.com/newsletter
• The Happiness Scale:learn.arthurbrooks.com/the-happiness-scale
• The Pursuit of Happiness with Arthur Brooks:thefp.com/s/the-pursuit-of-happiness-with-arthur
• The Meaning of Your Life Retreats: retreats.arthurbrooks.com
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