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The Bulwark’s Sarah Longwell on How Democrats Can Defeat MAGA for Good

Donnerstag, 10. September 2026 · 59 min

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As ballots start to hit mailboxes ahead of the November midterms, Democrats are finally feeling some long-awaited electoral optimism. But to build a coalition that can defeat MAGA politics for good, the party will have to win back voters it's lost. In her new book, “How to Eat An Elephant (static.macmillan.com/static/smp/how-to-eat-an-…),” Sarah Longwell, founder and publisher of The Bulwark (thebulwark.com/Subscribe?gad_source=1&gad_…), gives readers a blueprint to do just that.

In a live conversation recorded at Sixth & I in downtown Washington, D.C., Kara and Sarah talk about the hundreds of voter focus groups Sarah’s conducted since President Trump first won the White House a decade ago, how Trump convinced swing voters he was the “lesser of two evils” in 2024, and why she thinks Democrats need a stronger message on immigration. Sarah also offers her opinion on which Democrats are — and are not — best positioned to win the White House in 2028.

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