Dutch Schultz – In the Crosshairs of Murder Incorporated

Title: Dutch Schultz – In the Crosshairs of Murder Incorporated
Original Publication Date: 7/12/2023
Transcript URL: share.descript.com/view/lbDcbM4OuQu
Description: this episode, Mustache Chris and Steve delve into the captivating life of Dutch Schultz, a notorious American mobster during the Prohibition era. Born as Arthur Flegenheimer, Schultz rose to infamy as a ruthless bootlegger and racketeer in New York City. Known for his flamboyant personality and cunning tactics, Schultz built a vast criminal empire that included speakeasies, gambling operations, and protection rackets. However, his reign of power came to a violent end when he became entangled in a bloody gang war. Join us as we explore the enigmatic life of Dutch Schultz and how he will find himself on the wrong side of Murder Incorporated.

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Begin Transcript:
[00:00:00] Thanks for joining Mustache, Chris and I as we continue to discuss the Mafia and particularly the vicious game of Contract Killers, murder Incorporated. We've been examining a lot of the biographies, some these people, and there might be somebody who you're, if you know anything about Murder, murder that you're screaming that we haven't really talked about and.
That person is the person we're gonna talk about today. Dutch Schultz, uh, one of the most deadly and dangerous people and a group of deadly and dangerous people. So Chris, um, who is Dutch Schultz and why should we spend some time talking about his story? Just going through the notes of like, when we were going through, uh, the History of Murder Inc.
And um, in the previous episode we talked about a couple of the big murders that Murder Inc. Had, uh, been involved in. And obviously, uh, we're gonna have to talk, talk about the murder of Dutch Schultz. But cuz I would, I would argue that's probably the murder Inc's most famous [00:01:00] murder. Um, yeah. As soon as I started getting into Judge Schultz, I figured why not just do an episode on this guy ending in his death by Murder, Inc.
Because he plays, he's such an important part of this time period of the, uh, uh, mob history, and he's all interconnected with all these guys in Murder, Inc. In one way or another. Maybe not so much, say a Ellis and Jacob Shapiro and those types of guys, but. Uh, Leke and, uh, lucky Luciano and Albert Anastasia, he's, he's all interconnected with these guys more, the higher up end of the, uh, I guess, uh, murder Inc, uh, apparatus.
So, uh, give us a little bit of background on Dutch. Arthur Si. Simon Frankenheimer. Sorry, that name is different. Gonna make free not laugh. Yes. That was, uh, D's actual name. Uh, was, was, uh, born to, uh, German Jewish immigrants on August. Uh, Six, uh, [00:02:00] 19, oh, uh, 1904. His father would end up abandoning the family when he was, uh, quite young.
And this would traumatize Dutch for the rest of his life. Like up until the point where when people would ask him about his fathers, he would make up stories. Like his father was like, oh, he was a really important businessman. He was doing stuff overseas. And, um, I believe it's something that just he kept with him for the rest of his life.
This, um, um, trust issues or maybe sense of abandonment issues, uh, I mean, that would be traumatizing. You know, any time period in history your father just picks up and leaves and doesn't want to have any, anything to do with you. Um, This inevitably. Yeah. So Dutch would, you know, grow up and he would be involved in like petty crimes and fights and things of that nature.
By the 1920s, Dutch would've worked as a bouncer for, uh, a speakeasy for a gentleman named, uh, Joey. Uh, no. Joey took a shine to Dutch because of his, uh, he, he [00:03:00] recognized pretty quickly that Dutch was a pretty brutal and ruthless person, which we're gonna get into, uh, details, uh, quite shortly. And yeah, before you know, it, uh, him and Joey were, you know, opening up joints together.
And this is kind of when Dutch starts, uh, getting into serious, uh, criminal activity and. Yeah, they would even use their own trucks. Like, so it would cut out all the transportation costs that would be involved in, you know, just transporting the liquor, uh, at the time. And Dutch would actually, you know, get.
You mentioned, I remember one of the episodes you were mentioning some grocery chain store where they have like, the managers have to work on the floor and then they have to work in every department before they move up to the higher office, is kind of what Dutch is doing here. Like he literally would go on these trucks, ride shuck, gone to these trucks, to uh, I believe it was Union City, New Jersey, where this guy would make the booze for them and he would be part pretty much.
[00:04:00] From the entire process and seeing like the boos getting made and riding shotgun in the trucks to it getting delivered and, you know, playing, uh, you know, the patrolman basically. Yeah. It's really amazing that, um, you know, Dutch, he's in the, the business side, but he's also in the sort of the head cracking side.
Anybody who can do both of those things in the criminal element is gonna go far. Let's talk a little bit about moving forward some of the gang wars that are going on during this time. This time is definitely an era of gang wars. Oh, a hundred percent. Because once prohibition, you know, came into effect, there's just so much money to be made off of legal booze and everyone was looking to make a quick buck.
And, you know, some of these gangs were more successful than others. Uh, so the No and Dutch gang, which is what I'm gonna be calling and ends up getting into conflict with the, uh, John, I guess you can call it the [00:05:00] Rock Brothers, uh, gang. It was John and Joe Rock. Um, a lot of the time how these prohibition gangs would work is they would force other speak speakeasies to, uh, sell their booze or they would force other gangs to like buy booze off them, which they would later in turn go sell at the different speakies or their own speakies and.
John, who was the older brother, you know, initially they both said, no, you know, bugger off, Dutch, bugger off. No, like, we're not doing any business with you. And then John realizes, you know what, maybe you know, I'll buy some booze off you guys. Whatever, you know, let's try to keep it, uh, keep this from breaking up into conflict.
Joe. Uh, Joey though, the younger brother, he says, screw that. Like I refuse to do it. And Dutch and no. Saw an opportunity. Know what? We gotta set an example out this guy. And they kidnapped the young, they kidnapped Joey, the younger brother, and they beat him [00:06:00] up to a bloody pulp and they hang him up by a meat hook.
And I guess in one of the more, uh, Disgusting moments I've ever read about in, uh, mob history is apparently they, when he was hanging up by this meat hook, they had, I guess, gathered a gonorrhea, um, discharge bandages, like from a local hospital. How they would get these hands, get their hands on these things, I'll, I don't know, but they did, and they wrapped it around his eyes …