Trump’s War on Climate - and Maggie Baird on food justice and plant-based touring with Billie Eilish

As record heat scorches the US, Trump’s government is making things dramatically worse. We break down the devastating implications of the One Big Beautiful Bill (cbsnews.com/news/whats-in-trump-big-beautiful-…), the reversal of the Environmental Protection Agency’s endangerment finding (apnews.com/article/trump-climate-epa-endangerm…), and a potential US withdrawal from all UN agencies. It’s a full-blown climate backslide with global consequences.

Then, we bring you a conversation with the brilliant Maggie Baird - actor, producer, climate activist, and mother of Billie Eilish and Finneas. Maggie joins us backstage at the Co-op Live Arena in Manchester, where Billie’s shows are going plant-based, thanks to Maggie’s food justice initiative Support + Feed (supportandfeed.org). We talk food, parenting, the power of culture to shift climate narratives, and how to stay hopeful - even when it feels like the world is falling apart.

Learn more

⛽ ‘How the ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ positions US energy to be more costly for consumers and the climate (theconversation.com/how-the-big-beautiful-bill…)’ in The Conversation

🎶 See Billie Eilish (cnn.com/2025/07/18/climate/video/billie-eilish…) talk about cleaning up the music industry’s environmental practices, or watch the full documentary (for CNN subscribers)

⏳ Listen back to our episodes Momentum vs Perfection (outrageandoptimism.org/episodes/momentum-vs-pe…), where we explore different theories of change within the climate movement and the tension between urgency, impact, and doing things the ‘right’ way.

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