YVETTE INTERVIEWS: Ed & Lorraine Warren's Grandson Who Questions Everything

August 1981, a small house in Lee, Massachusetts. A sixteen-year-old boy sits alone in the dark, in a room where something has already knocked a grown woman unconscious. Behind his head, inside the wall, something is clawing and growling.

This week, Yvette Fielding is joined by Chris McKinnell. The grandson of Ed and Lorraine Warren, the couple behind Amityville, Annabelle and the entire Conjuring universe. But Chris isn't here to guard the legacy. He's here to question it.

He tells the stories Hollywood left out: claw marks opening on a woman's face live on air, a great-grandfather in his rearview mirror, and the untold British chapter, when Ed and Lorraine toured three thousand miles of this country's most haunted sites. And he does what almost nobody in this field will, he says where his grandparents were wrong.

A curse, a mind under strain, or consciousness surviving death? Listen, and decide for yourself.

Chris tours the UK and Ireland this September and October with The Real Conjuring (chrismckinnell.com/tour).

His book, The Warren Legacy: What the Paranormal Reveals About Consciousness and Reality (amazon.co.uk/Warren-Legacy-Paranormal-Reveals-…), is out now.

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