A Little History Is a Dangerous Thing | Anatol Lieven, Sofia Babkina

<p>Why do policymakers so often reach for historical analogies — and so often get them wrong? How do nationalism, collective memory and the legacies of empire continue to shape international conflicts? And can foreign policy be guided by realism, prudence and an understanding of the limits of power?</p><p><br /></p><p>We open the sixth season of<em> Foreign Policy</em>, a podcast by the MGIMO Institute for International Studies, with British historian and political analyst <strong>Anatol Lieven</strong>. Our conversation explores the uses and misuses of history, post-imperial conflicts, American nationalism and ethical realism, Donald Trump’s foreign policy, the relationship between the United States, Russia, China and Iran, and the emergence of a multipolar — or perhaps multivector — international order.</p><p><br />In our closing quick-fire round, we turn to misleading historical analogies, essential readings, films about war and diplomacy, and the difference between alliances and partnerships.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Guest: </strong>Anatol Lieven, Director of the <em>Eurasia Program</em> at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft</p><p><strong>Host:</strong> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="x.com/sofiebabkina">Sofia Babkina</a>, Research Fellow, MGIMO Institute for International Studies</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Time Stamps:</strong><br /></p><p>00:06 Intro: Anatol Lieven on History and Foreign Policy</p><p>01:18 Why Policymakers Misread History</p><p>03:44 Historical Narratives and the Russia–Ukraine Conflict</p><p>07:08 Nationalism, Empire and Post-Imperial Conflicts</p><p>08:26 From Northern Ireland to Kashmir: The Legacy of Empire</p><p>11:19 American Nationalism and Ethical Realism</p><p>12:31 Trump, Iran and the Dangers of Underestimating Nationalism</p><p>14:49 Multipolarity or Multivector Foreign Policy?</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Quick-Fire Round:</strong></p><p><br /></p><p>16:50 The Most Overused Historical Analogy</p><p>17:17 Essential Reading on History and International Relations</p><p>17:46 Two Films About War and Diplomacy</p><p>19:43 Russia and China: Misunderstood Foreign Policies</p><p>21:24 Alliances vs. Partnerships</p><p>21:45 One Rule for Using History in Political Analysis<br /><br />The Institute for International Studies (IIS) is a multi-disciplinary research branch of MGIMO University, established in 1976 as the Problem Research Laboratory for System Analysis of International Relations, and last renamed in 2009. We pride ourselves on our history of conducting innovative, in-depth, applied research in IR. <br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Follow us on <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="t.me/imi_mgimo">Telegram</a>;, <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="vk.com/imi_mgimo">Vkontakte</a>&… target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="youtube.com/@imi_mgimo">YouTube-</a…; and <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="rutube.ru/channel/30544033/">Rutube-ch…;