CLD - Boriska – Primus Tracks

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Frankie!

Frankie! It's Mars Day. We're going back to Mars on this podcast. It's as if the Claypool Lennon Delirium is obsessed with celestial bodies and planets within this solar system.

Yep.

We are talking Borska today from your South of Reality record. But first, we have miscellaneous debris. I don't know if you heard, Frankie, but Primus is playing New Year's Eve in the Bay again.

I'm curious. I got tickets.

December 30th and 31st at the Fox Theater.

I must say, I love these double runs they've been doing as of lately.

Yes, the two-night New Year's Eve experiences have been off-the-charts fun.

It makes it really worthwhile, the trip.

It really does make the trip worthwhile. If I'm traveling more than a few hours, I've got to see them two nights. Otherwise, I think, oh man, all that driving, I don't know. Or all that flying, depending on the locale. They've been doing that for a while now, and this year's seemingly is two straight evenings with Primus.

Do you think we'll get new tracks?

I hope it. And I suspect, because the theme is the Grizz, we'll certainly hear the Grizz. And I think they'll sneak one more new one in there.

I'm so excited to hear the old Grizz live at last.

Oh, that's right. Frankie, you didn't catch any of these 2026 shows with the Grizz. So you will finally get to your live dosage of Grizz.

Finally get my fix. Oh, man.

It's a fun one live, but you don't need to take my word for it. You've seen all the videos. It's funny because, you know, I look at my song counts from time to time and Grizz is already up there. I've already gotten Grizz four times.

Wow.

So it's climbing the list rapidly and good on it. December 30th and 31st, Fox Theater, Oakland. Go get your tickets. What are you waiting for?

See you there.

Look for a really tall guy with glasses and short hair who's at the front of the line and is holding a pile of records that I dumped into his arms.

Just prior to the show.

And what he'll do is from, yeah, prior to the show. So you have to carry it all in. And what I understand you'll do is if somebody says hi to you, you'll autograph the top record on the stack and hand it to that person. Is that correct?

Yeah.

Okay, great. Frankie's giving away all kinds of stuff. Ask him about it at the shows. Now, we, as far as I know, Frankie, I do not have a past life on another planet in the solar system. Do you?

Nope. Not that I believe.

Today we're going to talk about somebody who purports to have such an experience. And that person is Boriska, who is the title of today's track from the South of Reality record. It's track four. Checks in at five minutes and 25 seconds. Credits are as follows. Sean Lennon on lead vocals, guitar, and Mellotron. Les Claypool on bass and backing vocals. And Paolo Baldi on drums.

Yes.

One of his three guest turns on drums on this record. Now, Boriska, I will say, I think it escaped me. the first time I heard this record. And what I mean by that is I listened to it, but it didn't stick. But after revisiting it, it has stuck. Tell us about this one, Frankie.

Boriska was premiered in April 2019 in Toronto, Canada. And it was in heavy rotation throughout the year, leading up to the December 31st performance at the Warfield in San Francisco. It has not been performed since. When it was played live, it was a very faithful rendition to the studio version, not any jamming throughout the song, except, of course, for a semi-extended guitar intro by Sean Lennon, which was kind of standard for several Delirium tracks at the time, even since the previous record. Ah.

Okay, so this one they play relatively straight.

Relatively straightforward, yes.

And how common was it on that 2019 tour?

Extremely common.

Okay, so that was a fixture.

Yeah, it was played 45 times during 2019. Oh, man.

Yeah, that's almost every night.

Thirdly, it was pretty easy to catch if you had tickets to a 2019 show. It was even performed at festivals. So it was definitely a song they enjoyed playing live. Excellent.

It does have some interesting parts, and of course we'll talk about that. But the lyrical subject of the song, Boriska, this seems right up your alley. Certainly me too. It's right in my range of interests, including the paranormal.

Now I request that you say Boriska's full name.

Ah, jeez, I was trying to avoid it because I don't want to trip over it and damage my credibility.

I think it's Boriska... Kipriyanovich.

That works for me, Boris Kipriyanovich, yeah. I'm going to westernize it and say Kipriyanovich.

All right. All right. January 11, 1996, Russia.

Is that when his Mars craft crashed, landed?

Apparently.

And he became human?

Yes. Okay, yeah.

So for those of you unfamiliar, Boris at the time, in the 1990s, was a young Russian boy who was very precocious, really sharp-minded. and claimed he was the reincarnation of some kind of life form on Mars from centuries ago, who was here on Earth now as a messenger.

His parents claimed that he read newspapers when he was 18 months old.

Yes, that he was a child prodigy and was speaking and reading well before the average child, and then was able to, and was without any prompts or without any input, was speaking of history and culture and outer space and all these things that no person would know about unless they'd actually taken in that information. So the parents and these professors that they had spoken with, so the story goes, all claimed, no, there's no way this kid had access to this information that he's spouting and what he's espousing now. Which, of course, strains the credibility of the parents. Because if they're the ones making this claim and this kid is saying all this stuff, my eyes go right to the parents.

And then I have questions. There actually is a documentary interview with Boriska by Project Camelot. It's on YouTube. What's really funny, though, Frankie, if you go to the Project Camelot website, first of all, It is a product of the early 2000s. It's still there in all its glory. But their stated mission is to give voice to the marginalized people who have some kind of– or whistleblowers who have some kind of story to tell that would be beyond the mainstream. And my understanding, too, is Project Camelot, the name of that production company, is a reference to some kind of military– anti-insurgency research or some kind of social engineering thing that the military was doing to keep people from rebelling. I can't remember the whole thing. Anyhow,

some people from Project Camelot went to Russia and interviewed this guy, this guy, this kid, and his mother in the aughts. I was planning on playing clips because the video's on YouTube, the audio's available through the Project Camelot website.

It is brutal.

I couldn't find a clip worth playing. It's god-awful, Frankie. This interviewer sucks. She is so bad. She asked a pertinent question and then follows it up with, are there trees on Mars?

What did Boriska say?

He said no. What are you asking him that for? We know what's on Mars. Even in 2008, we know what's on Mars. All right. So the interviewer, she's terrible. The other thing you do, When you are interviewing somebody who does not speak your language, Frankie, is you ask them the question. So if I was interviewing you. and you were not an English speaker, I would look at you while asking the question in English. Your interpreter would then interpret it for you. You would answer in your preferred language. And then the interpreter would repeat it back to me in English. OK, but I'm addressing everything to you.

I'd say, Frankie, tell me about blah.

Right.

So this this interviewer doesn't do that. This is one on one. She's talking to the mother and saying, ask him this. Tell him this. And she doesn't address him at all. It's so annoying.

Wow.

Come on now. It's very strange. The conversation. So the mom's interpreting. But there's three other people in the room. I don't know why, but they're there. And Boriska, by the way, to his credit, he's answering all the questions. But he's 11 or 12 years old at this point. And he's just slouched in a chair. He just looks like a regular kid. He's just slouched in a chair.

And he's giving really short answers to things. And he's mumbling a lot. It's nothing like the articles that you can find on the internet that are written about him that he's very patient and polite and somewhat serene in his countenance and very sophisticated. I got none of that from him. I've been teaching 20 years, Frankie. I was like, oh, that's a 12-year-old kid. This is a regular 12-year-old kid who happens to be pretty sharp. My understanding is that mom, at the least, mom among other people, fed him all of this stuff. he was able to regurgitate it very convincingly and effectively because newsflash, kids are language sponges.

Sean did arrive to the same conclusion at the beginning of the song.

Yeah. Oh, Sean's not buying it. Yeah, in the lyrics, like right away. He's like, mom fed him this stuff. So, which is really interesting because in these Claypool Lennon Delirium songs, we're in outer space and we're examining possibilities and all these wondrous... celestial bodies and things happening. But this one is, and this kid's full of shit. That's the message. And yeah, he is, but it was spoon fed to him because kids are, they're language sponges. They're absorbing everything around them and their brains are growing at an astronomical rate. The language center of the brain is lighten up right away.

If you can't read or write to communicate, you get really good at listening and speaking. And that's what little kids do.

He's also referred to as an indigo child.

Oh, we'll get to that. Yes.

Jeez. That's a new age concept.

Yes.

Describing a child supposed to possess special or rare traits.

And I think part of what the definition of an indigo child is based on is that kind of proficiency with language at a really early age. So, yeah. So some woo-woo person said, oh, your child is clearly an indigo child. I mean, if what they're saying is true about his language acquisition, he's a gifted child. The other thing about young kids, Frankie, is they're really good at mimicking adult behaviors. They're incredible at it. If they're around adults all the time, they'll talk and act like adults when they're three or four years old. But when they hit puberty... They don't give a shit. They lose their minds, right?

So this 12-year-old kid, and he's got a little peach fuzz, all right? So puberty's hitting him hard. He's just sitting there slouching, going, oh, yeah, got to do this act again. He's just saying all the things that he's supposed to say, but he doesn't want to be there. It's pretty easy to tell. So this is clearly... Not at all legitimate, but it's pretty impressive that as a young kid, he was able to memorize all these details and speak of them in a convincing manner. And that's about all it is.

It's a parlor trick. Also, if you watch the video and see Stills, he's drawing stuff on a whiteboard behind him. That kid can't draw for shit. If you're an ancient alien, I think you would have better artistic skills. Tell us more about an indigo child, Frankie. I want to know if you are one.

I found seven common traits of indigo children.

Let us have them because I'm going to go down the list and check the box if it applies to you.

Okay. So it says, your curiosity has no end and you struggle to digest inhumanity.

Yes, that describes you.

You hate conventional systems and rules.

Are you a rule follower, Frankie?

Not at all.

Oh, wow, you rebel. All right, that's two.

You are an animal person with a deep connection to both flora and fauna.

Well, I know you love dogs. Yeah.

All right. You have existential despair and battle with depression.

That, I don't know that applies to you. I've never seen sign one of that.

You have experienced uncommon mystical encounters.

You seen a ghost?

I don't think so.

Okay.

Darn. You feel a deep need to achieve your potential.

I'm going to say yes in podcasting.

And number seven, finding your purpose in life is hard.

These are all catch-all items that could apply to anyone at any time in their.

Lives, right? Yeah. Seems like we are all Indigo AF.

Yes.

You are four-sevenths indigo child. Congratulations, you're more than half. That's fascinating. I also found an article, but it was 17 signs you're an indigo child, so I'm glad you found one that was much more brief.

That raises your chances of being one.

Yeah, it is an interesting New Age concept that these indigo children are highly empathic, empathetic, and want to change the world in a positive way, that sort of thing. I can't really buy it, but it's just another thing to sell somebody.

Yeah.

So we've established we are not indigo children, but Boriska is. That comes from that deep-seated need that he stated to warn humanity that if they continue on this path, there will be a nuclear holocaust. Because did you know, Frankie, thousands of years ago, there was a nuclear holocaust on Mars, and that's why everyone went below the surface?

Apparently, yeah. Yeah.

Apparently. This is straight from Boriska's mouth. He was also a spacecraft pilot thousands of years ago, and he came to Earth and hung out with the Egyptians, the ancient Egyptians.

Incredible.

And he claims that behind one of the Sphinx's ears is something that will change the course of humanity forever. Did you read that part? Did you hear about that?

No, I didn't get that far.

Well, I don't know about you, Franky. But if it's behind the Sphinx's ear, knowing humanity, that thing that's going to save humanity is in the British Museum. That's an imperialism joke. Thank you very much. For those unfamiliar, the British, when they colonized or conquered different parts of the world, took a whole bunch of stuff back with them to Britain and put it in the British Museum. I'm sure my disgust is shining through. Call me Fox Mulder because I want to believe, but I cannot believe this. By the way, Frankie, why is Fox Mulder's catchphrase, I want to believe?

Because I think throughout the show, his beliefs were frequently tested either by skepticals or by the government itself, right?

That's fair, yes. There was a run where he had a role reversal with Scully and became a skeptic.

Yes.

But I'm just thinking of nine-tenths of the episodes where six seconds in, he says, it's aliens! It's a monster! Okay, thank you for that. All right, we should probably talk about the song itself after that. Wow, Josh really hates this kid. All right, so with the song itself, Frankie, we open on some interesting vocals from Sean. A lot of, he's harmonizing with himself, but he's got a lot of effects on his voice. Really cool vocals throughout from both him and Les. They both are laying on the effects pretty heavily. And that's what I'm going to look for in our live cuts to see if they repeat those.

Because they're doing a lot on their voices. And really, there's just a lot of cool parts to this song. Let's hear a little bit of it.

Will he understand us?

You can hear that main riff being previewed here.

I didn't count it out, but that's an interesting time signature they're in there.

So they give us this....

Cool part, and that comes back around a few times. I'm going to forward to, I guess I'm going to call it the chorus, but it's kind of hard to tell because there's these verses, and they end the same way with this alien pilot and Indigo child sent from the red planet or the land of dust so he'd understand us. But that part, I really like this vocal delivery here. Does the delivery of those vocals remind you of another Delirium song?

Which one comes to your mind?

I'll play that part again. And you tell me if it fits. You bet.

I hadn't made that connection, but I guess it kind of works. It's similar.

It's not exactly the same. It just popped into my head while listening to it.

After you shared that brief history on Boriska, now I can't stop thinking what it must... I mean, imagine... Sean selling this track to Les.

Yeah, I would love to hear that discussion. Les is like, what the hell are you talking about? But that's, Les always says, Sean always has something like that up his sleeve. You know, he's a voracious reader and consumer of information. And so this would have come across, certainly would have attracted Sean's attention. And mine too. reading up on it, I was heavily interested to a point. So that must have been a fun conversation. Wait, who's this kid? What are you talking about? But as we know, in the Claypool Line and Delirium, for the most part, if you write it, you sing it. So all Les has to do is do the background vocals with that delivery of Indigo Child and such. So His delivery there was really

interesting in that, what I'm calling the chorus. And then right after that, so right around a minute and a half, we get something cool.

So that comes back around.

And then we....

Come right back into the next verse. So there's a nice song structure here. So we get our verses. We get a few breaks. I guess, will he understand it? Will they understand us? That question is, I guess you could say that's the theme. Because we hear, please understand us. Will he understand us a lot? That's really interesting. Because if we believe Boris is who he says he is, we might ask that question. I'm going to move ahead, Frankie, because I have a feeling that your favorite part of the song is in the second half. I'm going to play about a minute, and hopefully it encompasses your favorite part of the song.

Okay.

So some really great stuff happening there.

How did you know that was my favorite part?

I mean, I just had a feeling. I reached back into my past lives and drew on ancient wisdom.

I mean, that's my favorite part, but I also love when Paolo hits those toms.

Absolutely, yeah. Huge drum sound on this track. I think the odd time signature in the first half of the track is partially why they brought in Paolo, because it's tricky, and. So bring in a pro, why not? And so I played that part, Frankie, because one, I suspected it was your favorite part. I love the Mellotron line with the strings sounds that leads into the guitar solo. I think that is so well done. The guitar solo, possibly one of Lennon's best on these records. It sounds really great.

It feels like, so the beat that Paolo's laying down, it's so pulsing. that to me, Frankie, it's the kind of rhythm that's difficult to keep on tempo. Because it feels like something that should be getting faster and faster and faster. And I think an immature or underdeveloped musician would allow that to happen. And they would just keep pushing, pushing, pushing the tempo until they're at breakneck speed. You could do that on this song if you wanted to, and I think it would sound great. If you were doing it consciously, but I think unconsciously, if I were playing that drum part, I think I would just unconsciously start going faster and faster because it just has that feeling like it's supposed to be picking up steam, but they

keep it constant. I don't know if that entered your head at all when listening to this.

Now that you mention it, yeah, makes sense.

Like it feels like it would speed up, speed up and then be careening out of control by the end. And it would have that kind of car crash ending. Or spacecraft crash ending, actually.

I think another element that makes the song stand out are the strings emulated by the keyboard.

Yeah, not just on that one sting leading up to the guitar solo, but they're used throughout. It does make me wonder, because we mentioned this, or I mentioned that at that Frog Brigade show, Les had said that there was talk about doing either Primus in a string quartet or Claypool in a string quartet, something like that. Those kind of Mellotron sounds make me wonder if they could pull it off.

Right?

You get a string quartet to do those parts, it'll sound really cool.

At a smaller scale, we could say he has kind of already had some experience with that. If you listen to those Barrington Hall performances from vintage Frog Brigade shows.

Absolutely.

Ben Barnes on violin.

Thank you, Ben Barnes, yes.

And Sam Bass on cello. Right. Yeah.

We had that, we had the Fungi Ensemble, so there's, you know, he's treaded on that ground, just hasn't fully gone for it. But we could make a set list for him. Let's do that. We'll make a set list for Les Claypool and a string quartet and email it to him. He'll probably go out on tour right away. So, you know, I was kind of surprised coming back to this song. really like how all of these musical elements work together and less is backing vocals. Once again, he's finding different voicings for things. Uh, the way he says Indigo Child is really funny to me. Um, and Sean on lead vocals makes, makes sense. He's delivering them very nicely.

It's a Sean track after all.

It is a Sean track after all. And it's, it's very musical. Um, and as, as we've stated many a time, and I know you love it when we repeat ourselves, Um, on these Sean fronted tracks or written tracks, you can hear less and he's audible and you know, it's him, but he's not as Claypoolian, not completely right. He's, he's, uh, dialing it back a bit, but when they're his tracks, he's doing his thing.

This, this particular song, I think it's even a pretty understated bass wise, which is a complete anomaly for Les Claypool, of course.

Yeah, it is one of his more laid-back tracks as far as bass lines go, most assuredly. But it's an interesting one, and I'll go back to it. The subject matter is interesting. The lyrics are good. The melodies are great. The music sounds good. It picks up in that last two and a half minutes and takes you somewhere. It's a cool song.

It also kind of stands out That's an unusual song because it's myth tempo, right? It's not a ballad, it's not that slow, but it's not as upbeat or fast-paced as other songs on the album. It's somewhere in the middle.

Yeah, and not to jump the timeline too much, but on the Golden Egg album, there are a lot of songs that are similar to this one in terms of tempo and predominance of... Mellotron slash keyboard. So it could, in a way, not that we knew at the time, but it could serve as a preview for that record. Let's talk those lyrics. I mean, we know the story of Boriska for Chronicles. out loud. And as I noted, and I wrote it in my notebook, Sean isn't buying it.

So that I mentioned it earlier in this first verse, he says, Boriska did it all for his mother. Once again, parent was probably feeding this to him. And he was a good little kid and said, yes, in a past life, I was a Martian. And I am here to tell you now that we had a nuclear war. We had to go underground. And now we're here. So you guys don't suffer the same fate. He just wanted to please her desperately. Could never disappoint her. He told her what she wanted to believe. That part that I played, the quasi-chorus, this alien pilot and indigo child, we discussed those two aspects of it. So they're right there in the lyrics.

Sent from the Red Planet so he'd understand it. That's a nice rhyme. Red Planet, understand it. I can dig it. And then the question, will he understand it? So verse two, he never breaks under pressure. And you have to give him credit for that. He keeps it up. He keeps up the act. I wonder if he still does. I really hope not. Because doing that for 25 years has to be tiresome. Sean continues, his words are all measured strategically.

Boriska is indeed very clever to make such interstellar fantasies. And I would imagine after a certain point, I think he was improvising a bit and making up his own stuff to go with what the Parameter's mom sent forward or parent or whoever was feeding him this stuff. He continues, what befell Atlantis, he says soon will happen to us.

That's a bit of a stretch for a rhyme, but I'll take it. If we fall off the cosmic bandwagon, then that's the part about there was a nuclear holocaust on Mars and there will be one here too if we keep up what we're doing.

Historians largely consider Atlantis a literary device and a philosophical allegory rather than an actual place. Plato used the story as a cautionary tale about human greed, political corruption, and the dangers of excessive pride.

Absolutely. It is mythical 100%. Have you heard of Lemuria?

Lemuria? As in Lemur, the sea?

No, it's another lost continent.

Oh, no.

Okay, so... A bunch of pseudoscientists were positing that there was this lost continent called Lemuria. It was co-opted by, interestingly, co-opted by Madame Blavatsky. And she incorporated that into theosophy. So Lemuria plays a part in that, this mythical lost land. Skimmed it. I don't remember why it was so important, but it had to do with the origins of the human species or something like that. Madame Blavatsky, I guess, thought, oh, that's a good idea. I'm going to use that in Theosophy 2. Another connection to the occult. So I really like these lyrics. And I stated this earlier about the lyrics, that question, will they understand us? So sent from the land of dust so they'd understand us. Will they understand us?

Please understand us. And will he understand us? So there's that seed of doubt that even if alien beings came here, they would have no idea what we're on about. We have talked about it enough. If you would like your opinion on the track up for discussion read right here on the pod, all you have to do is go to patreon.com forward slash Primus Tracks. Of the many tiers of support over there, and we have a wonderful cast of supporters, the constant is Primates Takes. We're going to start.

I've got three thoughtful responses, Frankie. And the first one is from the resident curmudgeon. It's Eric in Australia who says, this track has really drawn me in more in recent times. It's very shiner and I have no explanation for my love-hate relationship with his music. Probably equal second place on the album with Blood and Rockets for me. My favorite track will be revealed in due time.

Sounds like our fellow Eric is quite a fan of the character studies.

Ah, yeah. Parsons and Boriska. They do go hand in hand as far as character studies go. Great point, Frankie.

Yeah, I think I know what his favorite track will be.

I can't wait for the reveal. It's going to be a great time. Our landed gentry Edwin Allen Richards IV says, This song didn't do much for me at first listen. I am someone that listens to albums in full. mostly on long road trips, and I found the more I heard Boriska, the more I grew to really love and appreciate it. It just clicked with me one day, and now it's a top track on the album for me.

The first half is a lot of fun to sing along with, and the back half instrumental is transcendent. Thank you, Edwin.

I can understand why it would be kind of a slow burner, but I must say, at least personally, I enjoyed it since the very first listen.

Ah, very good.

I just thought, wow, this is a cool track for sure.

And welcome to Patreon, Mr. Q Hefner, our newest primatron, who says, like most of the songs on this album, I had no clue about the stories till I heard the songs. That being said, the rabbit hole I went down learning about the indigo children was wild. This is probably my third favorite track on the album. Interesting, Frankie.

So our three primates' takes all hold this one in really high regard. This is a surprise to me. This is why now I wish we had ranked the tracks one through nine before we discussed the record, so that we could compare our lists to the primatrons and the primates.

I do wonder what Boriska would make of the track if he ever heard it.

That's a great question. Has he heard it? We don't know. Is there a Russian version of South of Reality?

A Russian pressing? Not that I recall, no.

Okay, so there may not be a Russian pressing that made its way over there. I hope Sean sent him a signed copy of The Golden Egg, because there is a Russian pressing of that one. Yes. All right, I hope that made it to Borska. With a little note that just said, sorry, SL. Now it really is time for Frankie's favorite part of the show.

Frankie, we're going back to a couple familiar places today.

First.

We're going to go to the Capitol Theater in New York, New York, July 30, 2019. I always think you're going to wait until I'm finished introducing it so you have the full range of sound to yourself.

I prefer if it's below your voice.

And it trips me up every single time because I want to hear it. Ooh, that pachyderm's way up there.

It's nasal. That's some really, really fine guitar work by Sean there.

It's very nice and it's loud and clear front and center.

Yeah.

What I like about this and of course the videos on YouTube in that first part before it really kicks in, Drow's playing with one hand and he's kind of dancing around playing with one hand and the other arm's just hanging and he looks really cool.

Yeah.

Look, Ma, one hand. I hesitate to say this because I know what's going to happen. Our next live cut is from another familiar place. Atlanta, Georgia, 2019. So the effect is.

On the mic.

Oh, man.

Well that sounded nice. I think we're getting more embellishments on the bass there. Oh, that sounds a lot more sour live. I like that. That sounds great.

Sounds like a really fun song to learn for a drummer.

Yeah, there's some fun stuff to do there. Really good. You get an odd time signature. You get a lot of different rhythm changes. And you just have to stay on tempo for that part that we just played. You can't push it. You'll get in trouble. But it is one of those songs that it's swayable, but it's not I wouldn't call it eminently danceable. So the crowd, and it's, you know, it's April in Atlanta, so it's probably a really nice day.

They don't know what to do.

They're not sure what to do. Yeah, I think they're a bit confused. But I mean, it's 420 Fest, so they're probably confused for a reason.

Where would you place Boriska in the album cover artwork?

Well, Frankie, I'm going to grab my vinyl copy of South of Reality.

Yeah, let's inspect it.

And we're going to inspect it closely. You know, you pointed out the amethyst and the flea and the compass, of course. Even though there's water, or what we think is a body of water here.

For little fishes.

For little fishes. It also looks like a barren planet landscape. So one could argue, and we know that thanks to the rovers, that there's evidence that there once was water on Mars. So this could be Mars... Thousands, if not millions of years ago when there was water. This could be when Boriska was living on Mars.

Very well could be.

And I would imagine Mars, that might be, that could be Deimos and Phobos there. The two little moons and then that giant planet because Mars is so far away. That could be Mars' neighboring planet just looming there in the sky. I don't know. Could be. That's my guess. I don't, I don't see anything, uh, anything else that would.

I'm buying it. All right.

We did it. We cracked the code.

Yeah.

Yesuda, we're onto you.

Yeah.

Anyway, Boriska, you've been tracked. Next time, Frankie, swipe right. That's my advice to you.

Read the bio carefully. Yeah.

And, and, and if it's a picture of him holding a fish, move on. We haven't done this in a little while and we should, uh, I state on the Patreon site that we thank our Primatrons when I remember to do so, and I've remembered to do so today, Frankie. So let's thank those people over there at Patreon.com forward slash Primus Tracks who are supporting us and helping us out to keep the lights on and that sort of thing.

And they hang out with us every other month. They participate in the bonus pods every other month. They're watching video of episodes. They're doing all kinds of goofy stuff over there. So let's thank these wonderful people, starting with our newest Prime Matron, Mr. Q Hefner.

Q Hefner.

Q Hefner, yeah. That's pretty good. Let's thank Andy and Zach Hurd, as well as A Third Eye Shelob. We're also going to thank Hagai.

Hagai.

It's just such a great name to say. Let's also thank Zane Dickens. Let's try that. Zane Dickens.

Zane Dickens.

It works. I can live with it.

All right.

Uh, we're also going to thank, uh, Brendan. Thank you for your long time support. Uh, Cremilis. Thank you, sir. Justin W. Thank you for your longterm support. Mr. Bradford Gatsington. The third. Wow. Has been a supporter for quite some time. Marcus may all as well. Uh, mine, Mr. Uh, somebody named mind grind. Frankie, who could that be?

Wow.

Mind grind.

Hmm.

Has been supporting us for quite some time. Harry, you're a good man, Harry. Robbie McCorry, thank you for your support as well. You've been supporting us for almost two years. Joe T. Zach M. Brian Bergy. Bergy! Audrey Myers, longtime supporter. Oh my gosh, Audrey, you've just passed the two-year mark.

Good for you. Cam Covington. Mickey Waters. David.

That's David. That's David.

David in the UK. Lance Halterman. Tom Dastic. Brittany Ray. These are all longtime supporters who are well over.

Two years of support.

It's amazing.

But these are veterans.

They're veterans. Grizzled veterans.

This is our list of veterans.

That's right. They all have PTSD. Primatron trauma. So on and so forth. Wamola17. Our landed gentry aforementioned Edwin Allen Richards IV.

Matt Ray.

Matt Ray. Jordan Kahn, our resident fish expert. Matt Crakeley. Trish!

Trish!

Back of the envelope filter. Still on the Patreon. Eric in Australia. Brooks Delight, who hasn't taken our jobs for a while. Thank you, Brooks, for sparing us.

Thank you, Brooks.

Ryan Rashan. Joseph Pebler. Nick the Dutchie. All longtime supporters. Steppenraiser. Stephanie Wolfgang-King. Carl Reinsch, our spent poets expert and Twin Peaks expert, by the way. Yep. Mike Chillion. Hi, Mike. Sarah Markham. Jesse Calton. Porter Kropf. Porter! Anthony DelPrete.

Go Bills.

John Shreve.

Mr.

Johnny Perona. Juhani Coho. Stephen Stang. The Phantom Primatron. Still one of my favorite names on here. Simon in Australia, Mike Tuckerman, Simon, Skulligan Val, Chris Gentile, Kevin, Kevin and his legendary shirt.

Is, question, is Simon our resident Panini expert?

Oh, at this point, Simon is our resident Panini and thrift store expert. Absolutely.

Panini ambassador.

Well, he's got a fallback plan if his career falls apart then. He can just press Paninis all day long. We also have to thank Adrian Porter and El Patron Numero Uno.

El Jefe.

El Jefe. Wow, he's got a new title. Carlos Arizmendi. Thank you all so much for your support.

Thank you, guys.

Continue to support.

Thank you so much.

And if you're interested, patreon.com forward slash Primus Tracks. We'd love to have you over there. That's all I've got, Frankie.

Sometimes I just picture Eric fishing in a little boat with the Sydney Opera House in the background.

Yeah. It's a beautiful scene.

Yes.

Eric, if you're doing that, let us know. Thank you all for your support. Prime patrons. Thank you deeply.

Yep.

Absolutely. People of Earth, people of Earth who used to be people of Mars breathing CO2 as opposed to oxygen, thank you for your support as well. Aliens, people who had aliens of past lives from all over the universe, thank you for your support. We'll see you next time.

You know what I'd like to do one day?

Oh, please tell me.

If Carl ever makes the trek to another New Year's Eve, I would love to catch him at a coffee shop and Have a waitress send a slice of cherry pie to him. And then I won't say anything. I'll just not stand up and leave.

I hope Carl doesn't listen to this part. That's a great idea.

I love it.

All right. Later days.

Willie Mays. Thank you.

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