Risky Business

How the World Got Owned Episode 2: The 1990s, Part One

Freitag, 3. April 2026 · 47 min

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In this special documentary episode, Patrick Gray and Amberleigh Jack take a look back at hacking throughout the 1990s, from the feel-good vibes of the early hacking communities to the antics of young hackers who wound up on the run from the FBI.

Part one features recollections from:

• Jeff Moss (The Dark Tangent), DefCon and Black Hat founder

• Chris Wysopal (Weld Pond), L0pht member, co-founder, @Stake

• Kevin Poulsen (Dark Dante), 1990s hacker turned journalist

• Elias Levy (Aleph One), author of Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit, Phrack, 1996

How the World Got Owned is produced in partnership with SentinelOne.

Show notes

• Elias Levy (Aleph1), Former Principle Engineer, Google (linkedin.com/in/aleph1)

• Kevin Poulsen, Journalist (linkedin.com/in/kevin-poulsen)

• Jeff Moss, DefCon founder (linkedin.com/in/jeffmoss)

• Chris Wysopal, @Stake founder, L0pht member (linkedin.com/in/wysopal)

• Hackers testifying at the United States Senate, May 19, 1998 (youtube.com/watch?v=VVJldn_MmMY)

• Hackers May ‘Net’ Good PR for Studio (latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-08-12-fi-3426…)

• DefCon Archives | DefCon 1 (defcon.org/html/defcon-1/defcon-1.html)

• A Not So Terribly Brief History of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (eff.org/pages/not-terribly-brief-history-elect…)

• Innocent Hackers Want Their Computers Back (newscientist.com/article/mg13418201-400-innoce…)

• Breakdowns in Computer Security (sciencedirect.com/science/chapter/edited-volum…)

• Unsolved Mysteries, Season 3, Episode 4 (youtube.com/watch?v=MAFFjZn8f70)

• The Last Hacker: He Called Himself Dark Dante. His Compulsion Led Him to Secret Files and, Eventually, The Bar of Justice (latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-12-tm-3416…)

• Justia appeal summary, Kevin Poulsen, 1994 (law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/…)

• Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit, Phrack Magazine, November 1996 (phrack.org/issues/49/14)

• From subversives to CEOs: How radical hackers built today’s cybersecurity industry (readme.synack.com/from-subversives-to-ceos-how…)

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