Freedom to Wear Grannies

Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Radd, an iHeartRadio and two-time People's Choice Award winning podcast.

Hello, everybody.

We are Scrubbing In.

It is Monday, September 21st.

It is. Yeah.

Fresh off of Vegas, iHeart Festival.

Fresh off of our iHeartRadio Music Festival, 2026, Sweet 16, happy birthday.

Wow, Sweet 16.

Mm-hmm.

Did you have a big Sweet 16?

Did not.

I didn't either. How was Vegas?

It was so good. A lot happened over the weekend. Like, I feel like I lived 10 lives over the weekend.

Wow, let's start with the highs.

Well.

Well, let's just hope they're only highs.

Well, there was one low.

Oh. What?

I got my period.

Yes.

What did you post it about? What?

I feel like you posted about that.

I posted that.

I was really proud of you.

I can't even explain to you. I've never received more DMs in my entire life. And I didn't open them, my apologies, because I didn't, I was really emotional and I just didn't want to cry. Like I was like, I need to compartmentalize this weekend. I need to like have my head in the game at the festival. And I knew if I read them, they would make me cry.

So they're still in there and I'm going to get to them. But like, I've never had more DMs. And like, it was crazy. I want to say at least hundreds, hundreds.

Well, even just you posted a TikTok and I felt like you had a lot of comments.

So it just.

Oh, I haven't seen that.

You don't check that, huh?

TikTok, I kind of post and ghost.

Post and ghost.

Yeah.

Post and ghost.

But I was thinking even the comments, I imagined your messages were flooded. Flooded.

And it's such a beautiful thing because.

I feel like community is really just so valuable and important. I feel like anytime I've ever shared something that's felt vulnerable or that I've been hesitant to talk about or whatever, I'm always so elated once I share it because of that sense of community of people who have been going through it.

And sometimes.

I feel like I don't really, I just am trying to show up for you, but sometimes I even feel like I don't know how to show up or relate because I feel like I don't want to say the wrong thing or do the wrong thing. And I think because it's so far removed from anything that I've ever experienced.

Yeah.

I'm just glad that there's so many people. I'm not glad that people have experienced it because it's like you're, I'm not happy that people have experienced heartbreak and hardship, but I'm just grateful that there's a community that people that can make you feel seen.

Yeah.

It's just like, it's such a crazy thing because it's like, you're heading to Vegas. I have a full schedule of stuff. Like I know I'm going to be working. I'm going to be around people. And like in that moment, all I want to do is spend the whole weekend at home in my bed, crying, watching stuff. Like, do you know what I mean? So it's like this like weird juxtaposition.

And this happened to me last month too, with the Jonas Brothers show.

Oh my gosh.

I got my period the day I flew out to New York for the Jonas Brothers show. So it was like, Again, I had to, like, compartmentalize and, like, just put my head in the game. And then I, like... The minute I saw Robbie, I just, like, crumbled because he came on Saturday.

Yeah.

But.

Yeah, it was just... So, it was just the timing of it was just, like... Ugh! But once I was able to, like, put that aside, I was able to, like, find joy in the weekend.

But also.

So on Friday night, I wore this like black dress.

Yeah.

I noticed when I put the black dress on, you couldn't see any underwear lines. Because normally like when I'm at events, I'll wear a thong.

Yeah.

You know, you can't see any underwear lines because the way that the dress was done. So I had granny panties on with like this huge pad underneath and like nobody could tell. And I'm like, thank God I had that pad because I was flowing like a faucet.

Wow. Freedom. The freedom to wear grannies. Yeah. It was really nice.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, anytime you can exchange a thong for granny's.

That's what I say. But so Friday was the night with the Goo Goo Dolls.

I will say my one envy was.

Because, okay, let me set it up. There's this video, and I've talked about it on the podcast before. There's this video of Goo Goo Dolls playing at an outdoor venue in the rain, and it's either 90s or 2000s. So everyone's screaming. There's no phone in sight. It's pouring rain, and it's iris. And it is, it's the one thing where I watch a video and I'm like, I wish I could go back and be in that crowd. I know.

Robbie was like, I didn't even know you liked the Goo Goo Dolls. Now you're all of a sudden obsessed with them. I was like, you don't... Because I didn't know you when I was 14, okay? And when I was 14, this was like my Avril Lavigne days where I would write the lyrics in the diary.

What?

Well, I was going to say the same thing.

I feel like we've heard a lot about your obsessions and past loves, but I've never heard you talk about Goo Goo Dolls. I was like... This is a sneaky, sneaky new one.

It brought me back to like when I was 14, like Dizzy at the Girl, that album was like, oh my gosh.

Banger after banger.

Just bangers. I was like so excited to see them. I ended up being next to them on the carpet like before the show and I was so nervous. I really wanted to take a picture with them, but like I was just like, I didn't know what to do with myself. So Ronnie went up to their manager and was like, hey, like, Tanya's a big fan. Can she take a picture? She was like, oh, yes. They were so nice.

Yeah.

But I, like, don't know what to do in front of people like that. Like, it's so weird. Like, I don't even know how to talk to them. Like, I was like, I don't even know what I said. Like, I just, like, blacked out. It was so embarrassing.

Were they part of your synergy?

Oh, no.

Music synergy?

They weren't.

Oh, I was going to say, that's always a good intro. Yeah. I don't even know what I said.

So they got up, they left. And then the gods were in my favor because I was not busy during the Goo Goo Doll set. That's actually the only act I saw on Friday night because I was so busy. But I'm like loving my life. And Robbie was watching the stream at home and he was like, you just made it on the stream. I see you in the crowd singing. And I was like, ah. So I get a text and they're like, hey, we need you backstage because I was doing the Hulu live, the stream, the hits.

Yeah.

And I was like, Iris is next. Their last song after Iris. I'll book it. I'm like right there because it's all happening like on this on the actual stage, but just behind the stage. And I was like, I'll be right there. Like, I want to hear Iris. They go, no, they need you now. And she put it in caps. So I had to go back and I missed Iris live.

Gosh.

And there was confetti. Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. There's pros and cons to being a woman in the business.

Yep.

And that was a con.

That was a con.

Well, my wife and I have wanted to do Goo Goo Dolls for a long time, and we did Milwaukee last month, and it was a blast.

Wait, can I ask?

Salt in the wound.

Salt in the wound, Mark. Is there a song that y'all both, like, is there something that y'all connected to, or y'all just have both loved to Goo Goo Dolls?

Yeah, no. Well, Amy especially loves Goo Goo Dolls. But Iris, I mean, I'm a big fan of Slide.

Oh, good.

I'm a big fan of Name.

That's what they came out with.

Oh, Name.

Oh, they did Name too.

I really like Broadway. Oh, Broadway.

It's dark tonight. I love that one.

Of course, Black Balloon.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah. No, it was great. It was a great show. We had so much fun.

Wow.

No phones allowed.

We had our phones. I recorded us singing along to Iris.

Was it no phones allowed?

No, I was just saying because that experience that I want is.

The no phones.

Yeah.

It was pretty great.

So good.

By the way, right on Lake Michigan, outdoor arena. It was beautiful. Yeah. It was a great night.

Great.

It was amazing. Wow.

So aside from them, who else was a standout?

I saw Zara Larson on the screen. I couldn't. I had to be in my position. So I saw her on the screen.

Who hates you?

A girl's got to work. They put me to work. If not you, who? Exactly. And if not now.

When?

But Zara Larsson was really good on the screen. And then I saw a little bit of BTS.

Okay.

And then the next day I had like a brunch. I woke up at 1030. My brunch was at 11 a.m.

Whoa.

Yeah. So your girl just slapped it together. Went to this brunch. Came back. Robbie got into town. And then we headed to night two of the festival. I almost stole water from BTS.

Yes. What do you mean?

Oh wait, that was the first night then. They had, I was behind the stage and they walked by with this like tray and it was water bottles with like the straw in it.

Yeah.

And I always want the straw because I have like my lipstick and I don't want to get rid of it. So I see this person walking by and I'm like beeline it to them to like grab one because in my mind I'm like I'm at an engagement party and they're just like walking around with like waters for whoever. So I run over to go grab one and the guy goes, excuse me, these are for BTS. I was like, oh.

Wow.

A lot on that tray and not that many members.

Yeah.

Respect. They do have a lot though.

Yeah, but the tray was full. There was at least like 15 water.

Bottles on there. Maybe they have one pre-show, one on stage, and one post-show.

But I did have like an amazing encounter with an artist that I'd never met before on Saturday night that I'm like now obsessed with.

The potential president of the fan club.

Yes. Do you know who it is?

Yeah.

Oh, because I posted about it.

Benson Boone. Yeah. Yeah.

I've met him.

He's so nice.

Where did you meet him?

At a wedding I went to.

Left that out of the story that you told me.

He was so nice.

You didn't tell me that.

I feel like I did. You were probably just blind with rage and didn't care because now you would know because you're a fan of him.

I would have known if you said you'd met Benson.

I'm pretty sure I told you because I think I went through every single encounter I had.

That's what I thought you did, but that one was left out.

No, he was like one of the first people I talked to. So he's definitely on the list.

Wow.

So nice.

Yeah.

I had to do this like bit with the candles because it was a sweet 16. So I was like giving out candles. And like Benson Boone is like, I mean, everybody wants to talk to Benson Boone. He's probably have like 500 million things he has to do backstage. And he said yes to doing my little candle bit. And I went up to him and he was like, I.

Love your jacket.

It's so cool. I was like, God, I love your jacket. It's so cool. And then I was like trying to explain to him. I was like, you don't even have to say anything. I'm just going to give you the candle and you can just like smile. Like I like bare bones minimum.

Yeah.

And he talked, he like went up to the, the, the phone and like did a little thing. He was so cute.

He's a showman.

Yeah.

You know, he's a true showman.

So now I have to add him to the list.

Oh my God. We have got to, we got to keep tabs.

I know. I know.

I know. What's the opposite of the gift that keeps on giving? Because the wedding is going to be the torture that keeps on torturing Tanya all the time. These things are going to keep coming up.

I just said a wedding I went to. I didn't say anything.

Also, first of all, Mark, we're past it now.

I don't think we are. I thought we were, but then we weren't about five minutes ago.

Well, I didn't know. I don't remember you. I don't recall hearing about the Benson Boone encounter, but I'll give myself the ding because I don't think I cared much about him before.

That's what I'm saying. You probably were like.

I don't care.

Now I'm like bedazzled. And then I went to go watch his set and I was.

Like, he's so amazing. Yeah. Yeah.

So anyways, newly obsessed with him.

The boonster.

The boonster. And then I saw.

Who?

Our friend.

Who?

Kaler.

Oh, Kaler of Love Island USA season six.

Of Love Island USA.

Yes.

And so, uh, somebody got like a cute video of us like interacting, like seeing each other, hugging like, ah, and she sent me the video. And so I was showing Kayla cause I was like, I'm going to post this. Are you okay if I post this? And she was like, yeah, or she's like, send it to me. And I was like, or I don't remember how, but we were talking about something.

She said, send it to me. And I go, I look through my phone and I don't have her number. And I'm like, I know I have your number. And then she said, she looks through her phone. She goes, I have yours.

I was like, Oh, gosh.

It's giving Kate Walsh flashbacks.

I had her number. I just didn't save it under her name. I didn't put her name in there. Like, I had her number because we had, like, texted, but I just didn't save her name.

Did you have it under, like, Kate?

No, it was just the number. Like, I didn't, like, save it.

Then you didn't have it.

So it was just in your text from her texting you. Correct.

Just left unnamed.

I was like.

Girl, create new contact.

Yeah, here we go. And I was like, I swear we've had conversations. And she's like, probably in DM.

Probably in the DMs.

So anyways, that was.

And you asked her to come on the podcast?

I did.

Great.

So let's see.

If we can schedule that. I was a little bit busy this weekend, but I'm on it now. And hopefully the timing works out and we can schedule that.

Okay, great.

Because she has a podcast too.

I know.

I would actually love to have her on.

She's a fellow podcaster.

Yeah.

Not nine years under her belt.

The other day I was talking to my mom and I said, I was trying to say author, author. And I kept saying author.

And I was like, I can't say it the right way.

And she was laughing.

And I'm like, it's because Tanya, we always.

Say author or actor or director or podcaster.

You got it. You just, if you know, you know. Yeah.

I had an experience this morning. And it's something I actually would like to speak to Mark about, but also you as well. But we're going to take a break and we'll be right back. Speak to us.

We're back.

So this morning, I woke up and I did a Pilates class. And it was a reformer Pilates, so you're on the machine.

And it's tough.

Like, you are.

It is a tough experience. You're working muscles. You're shaking.

But... I always go to the very end machine. So I at least have one side where someone is not next to me. That's my preference. If it's taken, I'll go to one with two people. But I try to go for that one. So I got that one today. And then this guy comes in late. And there's one right next to me. And then there's another one on the other side. So there was some space. And he chose the one right next.

To me, which is fine. I didn't care.

Mm-hmm. He is grunting and like moaning the whole class. And like, obviously it's all women and then the one guy, right? And we're all, we're all, it's hard. Everyone's breathing through it, but it's quiet.

And he is just, ah, oh.

What's wrong with that?

No way.

What's wrong with that?

I could feel the Barbie Ken energy in there so strongly where it was like all the girls were looking over like, why so loud? We're all being quiet. Everyone's like shaking it out, breathing through it. And he is just groaning and moaning the whole time loudly.

I see nothing wrong with that.

I'm shook.

Because I do that.

You moan? Yeah.

I'm like, ugh, ugh.

But are you by yourself or are there other people in there?

No, other people.

Oh my God, it was so distracting.

But he's like giving it his all.

But we all were.

Okay, but maybe you're not a grunter. Some people are grunters and some people aren't. I'm a grunter.

I'm shook because I thought this was like, I thought it was more of a man thing because men just typically are a little more loud. And like, I feel like when they're at the gym, they're like, oh, you know, like, I am man and pump the iron and it's loud, but it felt like that energy got brought into like our like quiet class.

Or like if I'm doing something and like, you know, it starts to burn. Like, you know, like you're doing something, like, you know, when you're like doing something and then they say to pulse it out.

Yeah.

When, by the time I get to the pulse, I'm already in pain. So the pulse like really burns and I'm going.

Ah, ah, ah.

With other people in the class. Because sometimes you do like private. Yeah.

I have privates, but I also have classes.

And when you're doing the classes, you're doing that? Mm-hmm. Wow. This went in such a different direction.

It feels so performative. I'm not saying you necessarily, but this guy in a room full of all women, it seems like he just wants attention, doesn't he?

It's called a release.

You need a release.

I also thought that, and this guy was so, like we chit-chatted after about, because he was like, that was really hard, good job. And I was like, yeah, it works different muscles. You know, it's like harder than you think it's going to be. But the whole class, I could, I was watching the other girls just like look back when he was.

Grunting, just like.

Men do have a louder grunt Robbie grunts a lot when we work out he's like it's like his is a lot louder than mine well that what you just did was quite but I'm pretty loud wow okay well then I guess to each his own and yeah stop judging the grunter guy Well, I'm not.

Going to stop judging the grunter guy because I do think there is a way of not doing that. I think there is, too.

Because I want.

I mean, yeah, I'm in pain, but I just breathe through it because the whole class is... I just try to match the energy of the class. Exactly.

Plus, if I were the only guy in a group exercise class that's all women, I would try to... I wouldn't want to draw any attention to myself. I don't want to blend in. Yeah.

Nothing's like a you problem.

I don't want to be the obnoxious one, the annoying one, the smelly one, whatever it is. I just want to blend in.

You should just be you.

But I guess the thing is if he was doing it and we were like laughing and he was getting attention from it and then he kept doing it, I'd be.

Like, I see what he's doing.

But everyone was just kind of like... Guys are the worst. Well, I guess it's not a guy thing.

Yeah, excuse me. I am not a gentleman. I am a gentle woman.

Not so gentle, though.

And I grunt.

Wow, okay.

Good to know.

I will make sure I don't take the wise classes with you.

Actually, one time we took a heated Pilates class with, like, our friends, and Sophia was like, you and Robbie together? I can't. Because, like, both of us are like.

Why? Why? Why is that happening?

I don't know. Feels nice. It's a nice release.

Yeah.

Well, again, I think it's just more so being... aware of like the surrounding and the vibe like.

Especially in a heated class if people were doing that in the heated class when I'm already overstimulated by the heat and the smell and the sweatiness I.

Know I used to love heated classes and like I cannot anymore.

I love them I can't but I haven't experienced grunting in them yet.

A drippy toe sweat on my mat is like where I draw the line.

Well we do all have to wear socks.

That's different yeah yeah it's disgusting like.

Drippy toe sweat is one of the grossest three words together I've heard in a minute.

Okay, so also I wanted to talk about about something that you said. You were like, I really would love for you to commit this season to watching Dancing with the Stars. And I just would like you to know that I have.

Episode week one.

Yeah, but it was two full long episodes.

It was long. Quite long.

It was a lengthy two days.

What were your thoughts on who? Okay, let's do two things. Let's do two things. Who do you predict to win? And then who do you think will be the top guy and the top girl?

So, like, who do I think is going to win?

Well, no, because I feel like either a girl will win or a guy will win. Competitive, like as a celebrity. But I'm just saying, like, who's your top three? And then who do you think will take it? So, here's the thing.

This is my first season watching. So, I don't really know how the votes go. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know how... how it works.

I mean, here's the thing.

I don't know how much is just totally up to the votes from America. You know, I don't know if there's a combination with production. I don't know.

But do I think that there's an advantage if you have.

A pro that's really well loved because some of the pros are huge celebrities in their own right.

You know what I'm saying?

I feel like there was a huge disadvantage for Connor Levitt and his partner Adele, who just became a new pro because she won a competition show, Become the Next Pro.

Right.

So that was her first ever anything. Yeah.

And she went home.

I heard that.

Which is, it's hard because she doesn't, she doesn't have a fan base. And I also, his, Whitney Levitt has a huge fan base, but like Connor is really liked because he supported her, but I don't know, standalone, if he had enough to, you know, To get the votes.

Are you a Whitney Lovett fan?

I do.

I love her. Oh. I loved her on Dancing with the Stars. She was amazing on Dancing with the Stars.

So I don't know her. I don't watch the Mormon Wives, and I didn't watch the last season of Dancing with the Stars. But I will say, they did, like, what are those things that are called packages where they, like, talk to... They were talking to, like, the girls for, like, tomorrow's episode.

Oh, yeah.

And it was, like, Maura Higgins' moment, and Whitney was sitting behind her, and she kept making all these faces.

Oh, yeah.

And I was like, it's Maura's moment. Can you not? Like, it really rubbed me the wrong way.

So....

Well, not sad that Connor's gone because... I saw.

So that's kind of what he did last season for her.

Oh, really?

So I felt like she was just playing that role that he played for her season.

He did that?

Yeah.

That would drive me... Nuts.

He dressed up in theme every week to whatever the theme was. He'd be like in the audience in like a costume or something.

And if the camera pans to you and do a thing, that's fine. But you can't do it when the camera is talking to like a different contestant and then like you're trying to like take the spotlight from them. Like that bothers me.

Yeah. I, I.

Never watched Mormon Wives. So, but she did not. People who only know her from the Mormon Wives don't. She wasn't a fan favorite. I mean, she was kind of a villain.

I can see why.

Because she had big.

What's the difference in that and grunting in a class?

I'm not taking the spotlight. Like, if I were... If we were on television and we were doing that, it's just different. You can't really compare. It's like you're comparing apples to a cucumber.

Okay, okay. But, yeah, I did see someone on Threads say something about, like, we at least were spared this version of Whitney now that Connor's gone. But... You know, he kind of did that last year and everyone loved it. So maybe she was just trying to return the energy that he gave to her.

He would do that when they were talking to other contestants.

I mean, I don't remember it being like.

It's very specific. It's a very specific thing.

Okay, okay, so you're, he's gone.

I was happy about that.

I mean, yeah, I was very indifferent about it. I just felt, I felt actually worse for the pro because she had just won this competition to be the next pro.

Yeah, it's very sad.

But she'll get to dance in the troupe this season. And then I was so bummed about Hayley and Sarah Jane.

But she's not new.

Right she's this is her first season as a pro she was just on the troop yeah yeah but this is her first season like being choreographing dance and dancing yeah it's quite sad.

That the first two eliminated was their first season.

I did not feel like she they were the worst.

I feel like they weren't like.

They were amazing but they were i didn't think that they were the.

Worst i didn't know who out of the like i didn't know who out of the girls was gonna go home.

Okay, so who are you? I know you're rooting for Ezra Freck, who's dating with Daniela.

Yeah.

And she's amazing.

Amazing.

But I was blown away by him.

Yeah. His package was, like, very moving.

I mean, moving, but just the sheer, like, mentality of nothing is going to stop me is so inspiring.

I know.

I'm like, how do I get some of that attitude?

Yeah. Yeah.

It's amazing.

And I feel like he has a really good chance.

I know. I feel like he like really stole people's hearts.

But he was also an amazing dancer. Like beyond his story, he's amazing.

Yeah, he was really, really good.

And I feel like Daniela's being able to be creative and know like what he can push his body to do, but also knowing like how to how to work around. Yeah.

Um, his limitations is amazing.

I was biased because he's my sister-in-law's cousin. So I was always like rooting for him from the beginning.

Yeah.

But now after I saw the first episode and like, he's actually really good. And like, I'm like, I think he could actually win it.

Yeah.

So he's my pick for the boy men.

I would say him and Harry Shum. Yeah. I think are the strongest in the men.

Guess who? Guess what? Harry Shum is dancing to this week.

What?

Iris.

Oh, my God.

Wow. Yeah.

It's having it really. Iris is really having another moment.

But even it was viral and in TikTok and Instagram reels and it's. Yeah. And then they performed that I heart. They're just they're having their moment. Mm hmm. Okay. And then for the girls, Maura blew me away.

Me too. I was expecting her to go out there and have like two left feet.

Oh, really?

Yes.

Because of how she was saying she's never danced before. Like to me, she was on my level.

No, to me, she gives me vibes that she would not say yes if she wasn't like really going to be able to be trained. Yeah.

It made me feel like, I guess I just imagine her being like me and it made me feel like Mark Ballas is like insanely good at what he does.

He is he is but i also think he always gets people who are very i do think he could he could make you into an amazing dancer i think you're better than you give yourself credit for you learn things fast it's just you would be or.

Unstiff is the right word no i think you'd be stiff oh really when you do this yeah yeah that's.

What i'm saying i think you could be really good And then obviously Jenna Dewan is amazing. It looked like two pros out there dancing when she danced. But I don't know if the if the fans are going to want.

More of that underdog story.

Yeah. Someone improving.

I know I did get annoyed of that when she was just kept saying like. My training is actually working against me, like I feel like she was overcompensating for the fact that she's like been a dancer.

Right.

Trying to like. convince us that it doesn't help. And I'm like, girl, just quit it. Like, stop. Like, you don't need to do don't do so much.

It's like when Charli D'Amelio went on there. She's an amazing dancer. And even though she's maybe never trained in ballroom, she had this advantage of being an amazing dancer. Yeah.

Like it's an advantage, period.

But I do think it all comes down to how people feel towards you in a parasocial way.

Mora's my vote for the girls.

I think Maura, I actually think the final two will be Ezra and Maura.

That would be my dream.

That's my prediction.

That'd be my dream.

And I love Whitney Carson and I love Guillermo, but I love that she, they said, okay, you're pregnant. We still want you on the show, but we know you can't.

Go full out the whole time.

Somebody was saying like they're posting videos when they weren't eliminated that she was like, Oh, you've seen her. I was like, I don't see that.

I think people love her. They want to keep her on there. And he's so charming and fun.

Yeah, I think I'll make it a few episodes.

But every time some Val and Jenna posted a dance where they were dancing to a TikTok song or hip hop or something. And Whitney commented, it was like trying this with Guillermo next.

So funny. So I like that they're having fun with it.

Yeah.

Did you watch any football this weekend?

Actually, I did.

And who did you watch?

When I say I watched, I didn't actually watch the TV, but it was on in the background while I was in the room.

What game?

Black jerseys.

Sounds like the Raiders to me. Raiders Chargers? Yes. Okay.

Yes.

And then Travis Kelsey's team. Because I saw Taylor. Yeah, the Chiefs.

Yeah, Taylor was having a great time, it seemed.

Yeah.

She was, like, pointing to her ring, saying, that's my husband.

Yeah.

She was loving it.

Did you watch these games?

No. Oh.

I just saw clips.

But I saw you talking about just, you know, just wanted to see how you're hanging in there during football season.

Well, he gave me his Saturday, so I was like, I'm not going to bug him this Sunday. And I was so tired. I was basically just, like, in and out of sleep all day.

Yeah.

As you should be.

You know, it's really tiring.

At this age.

But also being on my period, too.

Yeah.

Like, I feel like it just, like, took me down.

This weekend?

Yeah.

Well, it.

Listen I even in my what I would say my prime party days at I heart festival it took me down.

Yeah well and I had because I I knew I could drink so I had like two drinks on Saturday night tough recovery to to One and a half, really.

Well, drinking on your period also does... I feel like it affects you more. It does?

It affects me more.

Because I'm already, like, in the pits, you know?

Yeah.

In the dumps.

Down in the dumps.

Um.

What did I do this weekend?

We went to a we went to a dinner, a birthday dinner on Friday night for our friend Tati. And we went to this place called River. Oh, yeah. In Venice.

Oh, my gosh.

It was so good.

So good.

Did you guys get the fried green beans?

No, that wasn't on the menu.

Tempura green beans.

They changed the menu.

Oh, you missed out.

Dang.

And they're gluten free. They are gluten free.

The food was amazing. I guess they changed the menu just depending on what's fresh from the farmer's market.

Rats.

But we had an amazing meal. And then Saturday, we had a chill day. And then Sunday, we watched our niece and nephew. Haley's sister has two kids. And we watched them basically all day from like 12 to 6.

How was that?

Honestly, great. It was one of those days where we were like, we could do this if we wanted to. Oh.

If we wanted to.

Yeah. But then we were like so excited to go home and just have Phoebe.

Yeah.

So it was fun. We took him to the park. We went swimming. It was busy. It was busy, but fun.

Good times.

How old are they?

The oldest is seven and then one and a half. The baby is one and a half. But he's so chill. He just sat. I was eating a sandwich at the park and he just sat in my lap. Didn't try to grab it. He just sat there. He's like a little stuffed animal.

That's so nice.

I was like, this is a dream.

Yeah, you're like, if this is parenting, I can do this.

What are y'all having a hard time with? This is easy. I feel like it's when they start talking back that where it becomes a little more challenging.

And so on and so on.

Yeah. Yeah.

And then they become teenagers.

Right, right, right. Well, you're in that right now.

Yeah.

You experience it regularly. Well, they're both so sweet, though.

Wait, did you see the bit that Taylor Swift, the little thing Taylor Swift did on the Emmys?

Yes.

And she was saying, I think that she said saccharine.

Saccharide, I think she said.

Saccharine?

Saccharide.

Saccharide?

Yeah, this is wrong.

Otis?

Aries.

Aries?

She said saccharide. Saccharide.

Aries. Aries from the vineyard north or south.

When did she say that? I watched this, but.

She did say it. Yeah, I remember.

When?

In the skit.

Yeah, in the skit.

Are you sure?

She was like sitting on the corner of a desk and she like turned to the camera and said that. Oh.

And then, you know, the Swifties got to work immediately. This is where I feel like you could have locked in on some detective work, although you like a little more numerology.

I do like numerology.

This is a little past where you get involved. But one Swifty scrambled those words and letters to write a complete sentence about Taylor's music. And apparently it's, my first records re-record is out November 10th.

Ha ha ha ha.

But the one problem is that November 10th is a Tuesday, which would be a weird time to drop an album. So that's where anyone has hesitancy. But isn't that weird that you could scramble those letters together around and get that?

I'm reading what the quote was, and I don't see that many ha-ha-ha-has. Like, I see one.

There's three A's.

There's only three A's.

And there's three H's. So maybe someone added one extra ha. But there's ha ha ha.

But that's got to be a thing, right? That can't be an accident. My first album's re-recorded. It's got to be a real thing.

It's so insane.

I mean, yeah. How could you not? Maybe a re-recording of something. She's going to drop like a single or something on November 10th and then the album later. I'm normally anti these Easter egg things because they're always crazy, but this feels a little too... It has.

To be because they're also talking in the skit about hiding secret messages places and how Taylor's the master of that.

Right.

It's got to be real.

I don't really care because if it is real, that's all I care about.

Like, I.

Some of my favorite Taylor Swift songs are the songs from The Vault. So if we're going to get The Vault from the first album and Reputation finally, I'm here for it. November 10th, November 15th, November 18th.

Wait, what about Reputation? This is about debut, I think.

I know, but the only one left would be Reputation. She's not just going to leave that one out.

She might.

She's not.

She might.

She's not.

Okay, so all of a sudden you don't care.

I don't understand this.

Today's episode, you don't care.

I don't understand this one. I just don't understand it.

Tonya, she took these words, Saccharide, Aries, from the vineyard north or south, and took all those letters from those words I just said and scrambled them up to write out, my first records re-recorded is out November 10th.

So then why are we arguing that? It's coming out November 10th.

Well, I mean, that feels right.

You've done 50 trending reports before about trying to figure out taylor's hidden messages here's one that was actually figured out and you're like who gives a.

Crap did i say who gives a crap.

No but that seems to be your vibe.

I just want the music okay sure well no i yeah and i think that's where we all stand most of the time but most of the time you play into the this stuff.

I usually do but i don't understand this one okay okay I don't know. You guys explaining it one more time is going to help me understand it.

No, we don't need to. I think if you don't get it.

We just leave it there.

Yeah, we'll just leave it there.

Leave it for you to ponder.

Yeah.

Maybe November 10th we'll get new music, and maybe we won't.

I think we will. Hold on. How many weeks away is that?

What, six?

Ugh.

Her favorite number.

I think 13's her favorite number.

Times two plus one.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, see, there you go.

Okay.

Oh, I wanted to pick a bone with you guys.

Oh, should we take a break?

Yeah. Thanks.

I need a break before the bone. So... She's picking a bone in case you missed the tease.

Remember how, I think it was a couple months ago, maybe it could have been a year ago, I don't even know. My brain is like, Pride. Remember when you were like, we should drop a two-time People's Choice Award winning podcast from our intro? Because you're like, it's been like a couple of years. Like, you know, da-da-da-da. Do you remember that conversation?

Yeah.

So I was watching TV yesterday and Queen Latifah has a new show. And in the promo for the new show, they said Grammy Award winning singer Queen Latifah. Now, I thought that was weird because everybody knows who Queen Latifah is. You don't have to, like, quantify or qualify her, right? Like, she's just Queen Latifah. But they said Grammy Award winning singer Queen Latifah. So I chat GPT'd how many Grammys she won. One Grammy in 1995.

1995.

Are you saying this is how they introduced her? Yes.

Like, that was part of the promo for the show.

Because she's on The Voice now. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, that's what the, I don't even remember what the commercials were.

So they were like Queen Latifah, Grammy winning artist.

Yeah.

That's how they like, they qualified her. She won a Grammy in 1995 and she's still using it in her title. So we will be using two time people's choice award winning podcast at least another 20 years.

I'm fine.

I don't really... It's not a strong take I had, really.

It felt like a strong take prior. I think I.

Backed down, though.

I think a few episodes later or the next episode, I was like, you know what? It does sound good having that in there.

I think I had a stronger take.

Oh, was it you?

I mean, I did suggest we take it out. Was it you?

It was Mark.

I think that if Queen Latifah introduced herself to everyone she knows as, hi, I'm Grammy winner Queen Latifah, that would be weird. I think it's weird to have it in the open every week. If you're being introduced somewhere from the People's Choice Award-winning podcast, scrubbing in, here she is, Tanya Radd.

Great.

I think that's perfect. People's Choice Award-winning podcaster, Tanya Radd. Here she is.

Great.

Do we need it in the open every single week? Because, for example, Law & Order doesn't open with.

I knew he was going to do it on my parade.

Cha-chung! we've won 20 Emmys. You know, they don't brag about their Emmys in every open of every week's Law & Order.

Well, if we have won 20 Emmys, I would not put two times People's Choice Award winner in ours either.

I'm saying it's not, I don't think most shows do that in their opening jingle theme montage.

I don't have enough brain cells today to fight back on this. Well, unfortunately, I was going to say the same thing.

Well, I was going to say that, like, if we were being introduced to present or something and they were, like, two-time People's Choice Award-winning podcast host, that's one thing, but... I and I'm indifferent about it, really. Like, I'm very proud to have it on there. And I also if we took it off because we were we were striving for a third and we we weren't just hell bent like on having the two that we won. But again, I'm happy. It doesn't rain on my parade at all having it or not having it. But what I'm saying is I don't think it was a good comparison.

It was an excellent comparison.

I literally saw the commercial and I texted Mark last night. I said, please put this on the prep. I don't want to forget to mention it tomorrow.

I'll say this.

If every time the voice comes up and they go to intro Queen Latifah and every single time they say Grammy award-winning artist, then that would be the same thing, which maybe they do.

Well, I'm going to watch now just to... Just to prove my point.

But there's no point to prove. There is a point.

It's giving Mark and Becca team up today. And Tanya's left out. And I don't like it.

That's because you're the grunter. And I was not expecting the conversation. I could have never predicted the conversation was going to go that way with the grunting.

And also, I'm not against you or for you. And the reason, all I want is for you to be happy.

So if your happiness is having the two-time People's Choice Award-winning podcast and Sisney's voice intro-ing us every week, I support it. Great.

Moving on. Speaking of television shows.

What?

We have so much to watch now. Like, I don't know how to, between these Dancing with the Stars long episodes.

I think they'll shorten it.

The Traitors is back.

Oh, The Traitors is good this season, I think. The Traitors is back.

I didn't watch the first episode yet.

Oh, wow.

And then Survivor's back this week.

Oh, my gosh. You have a lot of television. Barbecue Brawl has got to be put on hold.

Barbecue Brawl is off season. Thank you very much. Yeah.

That seems like a summer show.

No, I don't really know how their seasons work, but it's not on right now.

They don't either.

They just throw them up.

Okay, so what are you most excited about of the lineup? Survivor?

Traitors, probably. Yeah.

Traitors is good so far. The first two episodes are good.

I enjoy the new blood because I feel like normies, they don't care about their image, so they are like savage.

Yeah.

Whereas I feel like celebrity traders, they all care about their image. So they're not as like savage.

Sometimes I wish that.

Sometimes I watch people on TikTok and people who just had a viral moment and then got popular for that viral moment, which was maybe them talking a certain way or acting like crazy.

But there was no.

There's no protecting anything attached to it. So there's a freedom in it, you know?

Like sometimes I'm like, I don't know that I could get away with... Just, like, going rogue like that.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Because I think about it, and I've had to think about things from a different lens. But I always am like, man, the freedom of just going off or.

going on.

It's amazing. It's amazing television. Highly recommend.

But I agree. I think not only celebrities are concerned about their image, but I also think that if you've been on a show where there is gameplay or like Big Brother or something, people know kind of your tactics if they watch those shows.

Yeah.

Oh, and then they announced the cast for the celebrity season.

Oh, yeah.

Did you see that?

I did. Stand by.

Who was on there?

Stand by.

Mark.

Standing by.

Also, Special Forces comes out this week.

Oh, my gosh. It's just too much. It really is too much.

Okay.

So, for Celebrity Traitors season. This doesn't look right. These are the new bloods. Stand by. The new bloods. Where's the list of the celebrity ones?

Oh, here. Okay.

Here's the list of the Celebrity Traitors. Kristen Chenoweth. Amazing.

Galinda. Cody. Cody.

Not just not Cody Simpson anymore. He just goes by Cody. Oh, wait, no, they all just have their first name. OK, I was like giving.

That would be such a strange choice.

Yeah, I'm just going by Cody.

Giselle from the Real Housewives of Potomac. Don't know her. Taylor from the Raising Race. Don't know her. Whitney Leavitt from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I guess all great publicists. I guess I'll get to know her through this and then I'll really make my judgment. But right now I don't like her. Chloe Olympic snowboarder. Oh, Janae from Love Island. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm excited to see her. Bianca from RuPaul's Drag Race. Who else am I excited about? Oh, Craig from Southern Charm. I don't know.

Oh, that's Paige's ex.

Michelle from Survivor. I'm obsessed with her. And also Q from Survivor. Obsessed with him. Joey Grazadeh from The Bachelor. And then a couple other people.

Wow.

It's going to be good.

Yeah, they always have a good cast, I feel like.

Yeah. Christian Chenoweth is like insanely massive.

If you got offered to do Dancing with the Stars or Traitors, which one would you do?

Traitors.

Really?

Yes, I can't dance.

I chose Dancing with the Stars. I know, but it's like learning something new.

I don't think I can learn how to dance.

Wow, you're so down on yourself with dancing.

Yeah. You wouldn't choose Traitors?

No, I said I'd do Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, because it's like you learn something new and then you also would get in the best shape of your life. And it just feels like you have a little more. It's a it's more of like I was I would say the opportunities that come from it. But I feel like Maura and Rob are like everywhere now.

Now they're like hosting this new show, which I also want to watch. I've never wanted to watch it before, but I want to watch it now.

Yeah.

I know. Lots of reality shows.

If we get to talk to Kayla, we could talk to her about Janae going on.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

What else was there? Is that it for you?

On the traitors?

No, no.

Just in TV. The TV world.

Yes.

That's it.

Okay. All right.

That's a lot of TV shows.

It is. Yeah. It's like one per night.

Yeah.

Well, I feel like we're going to be quite, you're going to have a busy season with all these shows.

Yeah.

Booked and busy. Don't ask me to go anywhere.

Trying to get dinner with you is going to be tough. Sheesh. Okay. Well, we are saying goodbye for today, but we will be back on Thursday.

Yes, we will.

Dear Banya, and I think we have a fresh, fresh new game.

And by fresh new, I mean something we've done before, but it's been a long time.

Correct.

So anyways, we'll be back on Thursday.

We love you so much.

Love you.

Bye.

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