Episode 17 - The Couch

Ren and Lizzy move things to the couch in Episode 4 of Heated Rivalry, talking about Ilya’s way of asking questions, why Shane can’t get his bearings, and the heartbreaking “Hollander” scene. They also discuss Ilya as a train conductor.

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