Double Lives of Suburban Wives w/Amanda Bella

[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, everybody. [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to another episode of Tain Talks. [SPEAKER_00]: I am your host Tain here to talk to you today about the double lives of suburban wives, a new TLC show that is I did to the line up. [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about it. [SPEAKER_00]: But I have a first time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm the show this time. [SPEAKER_00]: And it is Amanda Bella from Bella Talks TV. [SPEAKER_00]: Hi. [SPEAKER_01]: Hey. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh. [SPEAKER_01]: So excited to be here. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was going to even scroll back in our DMs just to see how long we've been like internet friends because you're one of my favorite people to talk to on the daily.

[SPEAKER_01]: So this is just first time on the pod, but long time coming for this combo. [SPEAKER_00]: I know. [SPEAKER_00]: And this happens a lot, guys. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes there's [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes you do share them and sometimes you take them and see your friends at the DM and sometimes I do that with a month to a week, it goes down in the DMs sometimes I don't want to deal with all of this stuff and then you know and it's not like and that's the thing I told you guys all the time you always don't have to agree we don't always agree it's not always the same thing but sometimes we align and we align on this show that you know I've mentioned on this show a lot of times that TLC is throwing stuff on the wall hoping that something sticks

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I believe this is one of the spaghetti they hope sticks. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's going to stick, but we'll get there, but let me give you guys if you've never heard of this show or if you have heard this show, it is a reality TV series that follows six couples from the suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is a knockoff of secret lives and more and more wives. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just get that out there. [SPEAKER_00]: It's absolutely your knockoff. [SPEAKER_00]: So all these women look like their normal, midwestern women, you know, regular, you know, with children, they all have children.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're all married. [SPEAKER_00]: And you think it's carpools. [SPEAKER_00]: You think it's just church and family dinners. [SPEAKER_00]: But no, no, no. [SPEAKER_00]: They're doing adult content. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I say like to say, and it burns my ears spicy. [SPEAKER_01]: Same, it makes me cringe every time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, just say it, girl. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the litigation team from TLC sat down. [SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, what can we say? [SPEAKER_00]: That's really not like going too far and they ended up with spicy. [SPEAKER_00]: And now they say it every two seconds, like they're all the time.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, these people work as adult content creators to financially support their families and the money is so good they can't quit. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how long they can do it for, but you're the guest among us. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to ask you, what do you think about this show?

[SPEAKER_00]: Give us this enough to see what you feel about this show. [SPEAKER_01]: you know, I'm so excited, always to like sink into new people because on Bravo and a lot of these other shows, I feel like, you know, I love getting to know the same women over the years and seeing them evolve. [SPEAKER_01]: But after a while, it's like, okay, I need some new, you know, some new spicy content.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's spice it up a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: And so even though you can tell these women have never been on TV, they have no experience, they're like a little camera shy, and maybe it's not the most exciting show we've ever watched. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It's so, it's like a little slow movie.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: But. [SPEAKER_01]: It is so good and exciting to me because I just love getting to know these new characters. [SPEAKER_01]: I love seeing their evolution already and however many episodes that we've watched this season. [SPEAKER_01]: And just seeing them get a little bit more comfortable getting a little bit more into the drama, having these interpersonal relationships.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard getting to know, like I said, six new couples that are all married. [SPEAKER_01]: They're husbands, they're families that are involved. [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like a lot in the beginning. [SPEAKER_01]: But I am loving this show. [SPEAKER_01]: I do hope it's something that sticks because I want to see a season two.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to see where this is going to go from here. [SPEAKER_01]: I know all these girls are going to have that season two glow up. [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to see themselves on TV. [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to come back and do wardrobe, just like housewives do. [SPEAKER_01]: Like when they're first time and I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like it has a lot of potential. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does have potential. [SPEAKER_00]: So what do I think of this? [SPEAKER_00]: I think let me put it in the good and the bad. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good concept, right? [SPEAKER_00]: It suffers from the fact that it's a knockoff.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there's always gonna be that comparison. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a show that's coming on its own legs. [SPEAKER_00]: I think where it suffers the most for me, it's badly produced. [SPEAKER_00]: I just, it's CLC, I get it, but it's just badly produced. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, they're trying to build anticipation as if, [SPEAKER_00]: they're still in the conception stage of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But for us, you've already told us the premise. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what you're using to sell the show. [SPEAKER_00]: We already know what it's about. [SPEAKER_00]: So in the first few episodes, we're seven episodes in. [SPEAKER_00]: If the first few episodes we're going in and you're saying, [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they don't know what we do, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they don't know this secret about, don't, don't, don't. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, stop it. [SPEAKER_00]: We know already, there's no use dragging this out, get to the point of it. [SPEAKER_00]: If you're gonna confess or tell the parents, we're seven episodes in and some people are just now, that's the other thing, coming out.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just, yes, I agree. [SPEAKER_01]: It's so hard to watch. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, guys, that's, that, you know, grandma wise, yes, it's so correct term, but they keep saying, I haven't come out yet. [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't come out and like, just say I haven't told them my secret. [SPEAKER_00]: I just, this whole coming out thing is just, [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a appropriation even to what's not, but it does.

[SPEAKER_01]: It totally does. [SPEAKER_01]: You can tell that they're just all at a bunch of like white women from the Midwest to them. [SPEAKER_01]: This is like the most insane shocking thing ever. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, OK, we understand for your neighborhoods, this is going to be a lot for your families.

[SPEAKER_01]: But there are way bigger struggles in the world to tell than telling your family, [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: And they're making all this money. [SPEAKER_00]: Some of them have been doing it for years. [SPEAKER_00]: I believe Heather said seven years.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: I just mean you would think they'll be more comfortable and then the other thing, you know, for the show is like you would think some of the struggles that they're going through on the show is something that you would have worked through. [SPEAKER_00]: Before agreeing to being on a TV show that's gonna be talking about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: So when you're telling me Oh, I feel uncomfortable. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not out yet. [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't told this. [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard for me as a viewer to feel sympathy for you because all I know is you signed up for a show that I'm watching So it's like ask backwards [SPEAKER_01]: Totally I agree with that with the production side of it one of my little like conspiracy theories like I always have my tin foil head on You know, I'm always like okay, what's really going on here?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that was part of the reason this show got made. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that since they all basically had that in common That okay, we all make content but like none of our families know That's where production was like okay, we have a show here because [SPEAKER_01]: get it's not it's like great to see them make the work life balance and kind of like that home life that juicy part of the show like you said that they've been building up to all season is them telling their families yeah yeah and so I think that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I actually think that they were contractually obligated and that's why we see Heather in the most recent episode and they're flipping out because they're okay. [SPEAKER_01]: We're only filming for like one more week and we have not came out yet. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and we're like we're like I think they signed a contract saying like they have to tell their families by the end of the season.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably why the show got made. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking like with that lens on there because you [SPEAKER_01]: tell none of them want to tell their families. [SPEAKER_01]: And they've gone five, six, seven years, why now? [SPEAKER_01]: It's because those cameras are there and they have a show to make.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that makes all the sense because next week, Macy's gonna tell her dad and they saved that for last because that, that his heart is going to be shattered. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that's that of a friend's heart. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he just thinks the world of her, [SPEAKER_00]: He's a pastor and yes that makes sense and the contract probably said it has to be on camera you can't tell them off camera because all I'm thinking is like so you already feel bad you think this is going to be so crazy for them to hear and then you think the best way to do it is on TV but if they're bound to then they have to [SPEAKER_00]: do it on TV.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dear. [SPEAKER_01]: That is just something that makes it that extra enticing, like a gotta see what happens because what I'd be like clocking in to watch this like appointment television every week. [SPEAKER_01]: Normally I would be like, no, you know, like it's a fine show, but like there wasn't that sense of urgency with it, but like knowing that Macy's dad's gonna find out.

[SPEAKER_01]: They built up so much with Heather and Sean telling his mom, I mean, he was I actually was, [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, was so flustered, one of my favorite parts of the season so far was how Emily's family found out because she accidentally uploaded a photo of her, I mean, in some of the spices, yes, if I see photo to her personal Facebook and then it was just like oops, like she kind of got forced to come out like that and I thought that was good, like I think one of the best parts of the show is definitely their family's finding out.

[SPEAKER_00]: I cringe for them because I'm just like I'm thinking like if someone told me that I wouldn't care But for like, you know people who are like, you know conservative the Midwestern pastors Christian That's a lot for them to take on but then on camera out of just like why can't you tell me off camera?

[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you telling me why did you choose to tell me this on camera? [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even process my feelings because the million people are watching. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know if they have them any million viewers, but [SPEAKER_00]: people are watching me process this. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to them, it probably feels like millions of people are watching.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, that is a lot of pressure, but I, that is definitely, it's just so something we have not seen before. [SPEAKER_01]: And this only fans [SPEAKER_01]: spicy content like this is a huge phenomenon that has taken over our culture. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think that this is going on in neighborhoods everywhere.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at this place, this tiny little suburb outside of St. Louis. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they chose that area to focus on versus a Miami versus an LA where there's like billions of girls doing that because of that, it's it's just not expected [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is. [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I can't imagine what is going through, okay, I wanna go back to when they're approached to do the show and I'm just like, what are they thinking?

[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder how many times someone backed out, I wonder who had to be talked into doing it, I don't think they're getting paid a lot, so I wonder if it's the incentive of the money or if it's that reality TV show fame or the thought of this could boost our follow account. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think it's probably all the above.

[SPEAKER_01]: And they really do a good job covering how Bree and Megan, like they're the only ones that don't have to come out to their families on TV because they were already out of the press when their accounts were discovered as being high school middle school teachers. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was all over the news and I remember that like [SPEAKER_01]: I remember that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I remember hearing about them. [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's so interesting that like it was on the news producers were probably like okay like we got to go find out what's going on. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that area and they probably didn't expect to find out that there was like a bunch of them making content they'd be good.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, let's just go check out and see these other two stories and then maybe that's how the show got developed But it is really crazy like it's not just the women to all of their husband's making content with them That would happen to me. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's a shocker because it is, you know You talked about culture earlier, but even with the secret lives of Mormon wives Men don't want to work no more [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to work.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't want to do the content creation. [SPEAKER_00]: So if they can piggyback up their wives and if what they're saying is true with how much money they're making, why not? [SPEAKER_00]: Matters with. [SPEAKER_00]: My thoughts will lean into it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's as something you said, you know, something we haven't seen before.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I keep wondering, [SPEAKER_00]: If this show was produced by HBO, what would we have gotten? [SPEAKER_00]: For the fact that it's on TLC, it is going to be sanitized just a little bit and we're not getting the fullness of it because you know, even when they say spicy content at first, I'm not gonna lie.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking, oh, it's just like, you know, fetishes, a little boob here, a little ass here, like, you know, that's what it is. [SPEAKER_00]: And then the jump or the transition from that to finding out like some of these couples are swinging [SPEAKER_00]: When I think it's penetrative sex and all that, that was really like one key for me, which is why I say the production is not that great, because it was not seamless.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like, oh wait, it's truly spicy spicy like not a little wink here, it's a little black here, so if it was an HBO, would they show the full gamut would we not be vague and dancing around languages, so we don't get fine. [SPEAKER_00]: type situation and I wonder about that and I wonder if HVO even had the opportunity any if they passed on it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is such a good question. [SPEAKER_01]: I do wonder how TLC did end up with this show. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even we're seeing with Hulu and how they handle secret lives of Mormon wives and stuff like I mean, they're discussing all kinds of things on there. [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like there's not a ton of a filter on there either.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you're right, I wonder, because it's not that I think of TLC as a family channel. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they have there. [SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely it's just very out there content that we're seeing on all of their shows. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not your average family is that they cover, but it is very curious how it ended up with them.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I do wonder how it evolves from here or if it starts to get a little more because. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're covering certain topics in this beginning season, but once the family's do find out and that kind of storyline is killed, do we get more into the nitty gritty of the content and what they're doing next season there's is one.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true, because what next? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, TLC is basic cable, so I know they still have rules. [SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why I specifically said HBO is I don't like ads, like I talk about that all the time, so I watch it on HBO. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like it's the same family.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just wondering why the choice, because if they really wanted to compete against Hulu, that would have been the right network to go against. [SPEAKER_00]: And then they could have more leeway on what story they want to tell. [SPEAKER_00]: They can't curse, they can't do anything. [SPEAKER_00]: Everything has to be blurred out.

[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have to be blurred out. [SPEAKER_00]: on HBO. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why such a good point. [SPEAKER_01]: I love an uncensored version too. [SPEAKER_01]: Like even the cursing like it does kind of get me like going a little bit more. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little more real, a little more raw.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the basic cable, this of it all does kind of like tame it down. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, too much. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the thing that they're doing that is good because I don't want to just say like other things. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like I do like they give us the name cards every single time because I tell you what, [SPEAKER_00]: Rhode Island I can figure out I know who's different in two episodes seven episodes in I need cue cards to know who these girls are and to say their names I still don't know [SPEAKER_00]: off the top of my head who they are.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's hard. [SPEAKER_01]: It really is hard getting to know so many new people at once. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like there's usually a season, at least to get to know a few people and then they kind of start to bring in other friends and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: But this was a lot of storylines at once.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I do get them confused too. [SPEAKER_00]: I know. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's just go through the girls. [SPEAKER_00]: I figured that's a good way. [SPEAKER_00]: And then we could talk with them through their storylines and what's going on. [SPEAKER_00]: So Tammy, Tammy seems to be the center of them all.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's just like the, the friend to all of them. [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I guess she's known all of them. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the other good thing that you're doing. [SPEAKER_00]: And we talk about this with Bravo in the housewives, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Bring back people who are actually friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: people who actually know each other who have history with each other and I think they got that downpat with this group of women where they've all known each other they all have shared history and you know when you're going back to maybe producers coming back coming to Missouri looking for the women [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was Emily or Megan, one of them who said we went out after she was a teacher and we went out for drinks and someone was talking about it and we locked eyes and was like you're doing it too.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there's like the secret underground where's it? [SPEAKER_01]: They're talking how many of them are doing it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of repressed women in America. [SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you that the moment I knew this, maybe I was late to find out was when 50 shades of gray came out was at the movie or magic mic.

[SPEAKER_00]: One of them could be something tame. [SPEAKER_00]: And I went to the movies and I saw women just like, oh my god, losing their shit. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, really? [SPEAKER_00]: This, that is what is driving you nuts and I'm like, oh, there's a lot of people being repressed in their church.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine like my mom, she watches like married at first sight with me and I can't imagine being like, hey, you should check out this other show with me like she wouldn't have, she was like, well, what people are doing? [SPEAKER_01]: What, like, you're right, there's a, there's definitely a level of people that have no idea [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which again brings me to that question, TLC, when they sat down, who was their audience?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because the TLC market, the people who watch 90 day, sister wives, all of that, they're not the ones watching double-life with suburban wives. [SPEAKER_00]: So who are they trying to target? [SPEAKER_00]: That is so true. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they were talking about how we really don't see a ton of people talking about the show in general.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that if they did focus, [SPEAKER_01]: a little bit more like what could we do to get like more eyes on it. [SPEAKER_01]: I think you, you kind of nailed it when you were saying earlier, but it's just like a little too tame. [SPEAKER_01]: Like we need a little more shock. [SPEAKER_01]: We need a little more drama and they're all getting their like camera beaks wet for the first time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like Megan, who was like a big part, I think, of why the show got sold because her and Brewer [SPEAKER_01]: friends, teachers together got out at the same time. [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's like literally said 10 words the entire season. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like girl, like get in there, like you've got to share more because she would be the first one I would cut for next season.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like we need them to be like volunteering a little bit more information given us a little more behind the scenes of what's going on. [SPEAKER_01]: Like opening up about their emotions more and how these things are affecting them. [SPEAKER_01]: production does need to be asking those questions, getting these scenes like going a little bit more, because I think there's like juice to squeeze there, but like everyone's too shy to fully go it all the way.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, hey, the show is coming out. [SPEAKER_01]: Whether or not you maybe at the time they're thinking like okay no one knows yet and so they're still like a little reserved and I'm hoping that like once the show's out and aired now that if they get a season two they'll come back with a little more confidence and not being so nervous about stuff because the bandage will have been like ripped off by that point.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you made a good point about Megan who I think is so pretty. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I just she has the most gorgeous and in the beginning I was so mad at her because she was like she did something to me and I can't say what is it? [SPEAKER_00]: Even the producers like what is it?

[SPEAKER_00]: She was like I don't want to talk about it. [SPEAKER_00]: Then they're asking her and I'm like that's part of the anticipation I was talking about. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like yeah, [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, if you think you're making it some like, oh man, I got a tune in to see what happens in Megan.

[SPEAKER_00]: If I wasn't a reality TV horror, I would just be TV show guys. [SPEAKER_00]: For us, they're reality TV show. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're like, screw that. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not waiting for this. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what are we doing here? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're on a show. [SPEAKER_00]: We're not here to say, I don't want to talk about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk off camera. [SPEAKER_00]: That's not why we're here to your point that they're very green. [SPEAKER_00]: Like the producers need to do a better job of crawling them [SPEAKER_00]: This doesn't make good TV. [SPEAKER_00]: You've got to just spill it so we can delve into it and then create that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And even when she confronted her, it was a want-walt. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it was a nothing further. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: And I agree. [SPEAKER_01]: That was the probably the one time. [SPEAKER_01]: It gets a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: It takes a lot from me to quit a show. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I ride or die.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, [SPEAKER_01]: The wheels are off. [SPEAKER_01]: We're skinned on like the gas tank like I'm still watching. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I get so invested in these people, but like that was the point I almost gave up on the show. [SPEAKER_01]: I was saying we don't find out in the next episode what's going on between Bri and Megan and what this like big controversy is I'm out and then they finally did.

[SPEAKER_01]: get them to sit down and talk about it. [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, it was nothing really. [SPEAKER_01]: But like they at least they finally got her to say. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was very frustrating. [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, there's got to be more of an incentive somewhere in there to get them to open out more.

[SPEAKER_00]: Especially because what was it? [SPEAKER_00]: It was a barbecue. [SPEAKER_00]: She took them to the end of the cold assack and she's like, yeah I don't want to talk it away. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm being attacked. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like you are not you are asked to feel with show It's your job like I don't want to talk about this in front of kids.

[SPEAKER_00]: There are no kids around you know and yeah [SPEAKER_01]: We don't find any other girls at that party, sorry, we don't have to other at that party, like finally, that was the first time the other girls were like, okay, production's not gonna come in. [SPEAKER_01]: It's art, it's like basically our responsibility now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like Megan, you're telling us now. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll circle the round her and they were like, you're not leaving this sister circle until you say it. [SPEAKER_01]: Like that. [SPEAKER_01]: That was good, it was like finally they were working as like an ensemble cast.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're they're they're getting there slowly, but surely, but also like Megan street jumping into thinking that she was outed by Megan, do you think there was something there? [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the way that I thought originally there was something there. [SPEAKER_01]: But I felt like Bree's response was genuine.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, she was like a fended. [SPEAKER_01]: And unless she's like a really good actress, you know, then, but like I said, these aren't like tenured TV show people where I think they're like able to manipulate us like that quite yet. [SPEAKER_01]: Because she was like, oh my god, you think I would do that?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like we were friends, like we both got out. [SPEAKER_01]: And like, [SPEAKER_01]: I think just her general reaction made me be like, okay, I do kind of believe breed that it wasn't her. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that it just happened that, you know, plus these are not huge towns. [SPEAKER_01]: Like if one teacher got caught there, I think it's like a matter of time if any of the other teachers there.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, not that they're not showing their face because Megan was like, I was always very careful, but like, [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's a recognizable, she has features that, you know, they have to get to. [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's just certain things that like, okay, we know who that is.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, she did just get found out on her own and she wasn't able to like, except that. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the thing I noticed across the women. [SPEAKER_00]: Safe for me, be. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Brianna. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not comfortable with what they're doing. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a very hard thing to wrap my head around, especially when you've been doing it that long.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's say you started last year or something. [SPEAKER_00]: I can maybe see it, but a lot of them still feel shame, but then on one hand, we see them filming contents because I think when they went to like the dressing room and they're like, now let's film the spicy one and they took off their tops and they're like, they see confident in it except for, um, Emily, Emily's the new one, the red head.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, except for Emily. [SPEAKER_00]: She's doing all of that with her chest literally in her ass. [SPEAKER_00]: Everything But everyone else seems like oh, I'm not comfortable and it's just so weird to me You decide to film a show you decided to go into adult content for years and yet you're not There yet [SPEAKER_00]: that's hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and that seems to be like the biggest drama that kind of happens in this first season is that kind of like the difference between Emily and like Macy because Macy drives me nuts with those sunglasses and that wig. [SPEAKER_01]: Like girl, what are we doing? [SPEAKER_01]: And finally, Emily is the one to be like, [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, like, when is this gonna end?

[SPEAKER_01]: Show is coming. [SPEAKER_01]: You know what you signed up for? [SPEAKER_01]: And even though I didn't like love her approach, it was, well, it was a little aggressive for a little church girl. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I think she needed to be like handed a little handle, a little bit softer.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I was on the same page as her, like how long is this disguise gonna go on? [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're literally at dinners with cameras in like boom mics and she's got the disguise on. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, this has got to stop. [SPEAKER_00]: it does. [SPEAKER_00]: I just may see a noise me and it's like that's what happens when you're not comfortable in your own skin.

[SPEAKER_00]: She's the most uncomfortable with what she's doing and what is worse than a party city wig. [SPEAKER_00]: That's nothing is nothing is where she looks a nice what that would be is with those glasses It didn't even talk that she was doing it as a disguise. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought she thought it was fun It was somewhere in between.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like wait I think she thinks that this is gonna hide who her identity is and I'm like that is the most delusional thing I've ever seen [SPEAKER_00]: And they're just like, they're filming me. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, how do you know they're just not filming me because if I go out and I see cameras in the boombox, I'm filming, just in case I'm like, what show was this?

[SPEAKER_00]: What was going on here? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, put it already, does anyone know what this was? [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I don't do that, but people do that. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just like, why are you thinking like they're singling you out and they're trying to figure out who you are? [SPEAKER_00]: That was just like, she's delusional.

[SPEAKER_01]: She is. [SPEAKER_01]: She is making for great TV because she is delulu. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what I still think she thinks that like this is going to air and still no one's going to know it's like, okay, like I have that's why I like I have to see where this goes after this season because I need to see how these girls lives changed after this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, have you seen any of your content? [SPEAKER_00]: I think after I started watching and my FBI agents sold it to the Instagram, my algorithms are showing me their content because I don't follow any of them. [SPEAKER_00]: And just, it's very cringe. [SPEAKER_00]: It's very, [SPEAKER_01]: Amateur, like, oh, amateur, you said it's like, it's like, okay, I could not believe even just like the lingerie, I can make it this girl some like savage bendy like something like they're wearing like Nickelodeon underwear like I don't [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot believe the whole thing is a mess and they're making millions.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, if they upgrade and they get a little bit of a glow up and like it can get some cuter out of it, it can get a cuter wig. [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're going to be making bank. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: If they just invest in their look a little bit, but hey, maybe they don't need to, but I'm shocked to you believe they're making millions though.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's a good question. [SPEAKER_01]: They certainly seem to act like they are. [SPEAKER_01]: They say that they are, but maybe we need to see some receipts. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, their homes don't say that. [SPEAKER_01]: They're making millions. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's my only.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is true. [SPEAKER_01]: The one family I can't remember who it was. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that had like gotten like a new corvette and like a new pickup truck and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, like they're being a little bit flashy. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I kind of liked that because everyone else seemed way too normal to be making all of this money, but maybe they're just trying to hide it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like to like they all have a ton of kids. [SPEAKER_01]: And they were all probably in like a ton of debt. [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe they're like just catching up to like the lifestyle now and maybe that's why they signed on for the show like who knows how much they're getting paid.

[SPEAKER_01]: We know TLC. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a ton, but like if they need the show for [SPEAKER_01]: You probably, again, tellers, there's social media because, yeah, you're right. [SPEAKER_01]: I was looking at some of their profiles too. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you're like 25,000 followers. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't seem like a, that's able to translate into millions of dollars. [SPEAKER_01]: But what do I know about spicy content? [SPEAKER_00]: nothing. [SPEAKER_00]: That's the other thing that actually kind of annoyed me like you know we talked early and I'm like the men don't want to work.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean a few of the husbands still have their day jobs actually whilst still managing them or stepping in when needed. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like they all talked about how they didn't have enough money, how they couldn't keep up and had all these responsibilities, but they won't stop having babies.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, like, there is more than why this is them. [SPEAKER_00]: It's irresponsible. [SPEAKER_00]: I just found that irresponsible because the babies are not asking to be here. [SPEAKER_00]: But you're bringing them here and you can't keep up with them. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: They said that's why they had to make the money.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like you could also like take a break and not have a baby. [SPEAKER_00]: They're ways that's cheaper than trying to feed a baby. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, the men just, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a very traditional values in their homes for such untraditional lines of work.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's what makes it so interesting because like we were saying with like in Miami and stuff or whatever you see these girls it like is par for the course but this is seems so outside of like who they are especially macy the daughter of a pastor [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, how did we end up here?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I would like to go rewind back a little bit more and get even more information about their like origin stories. [SPEAKER_01]: And how they really got into this. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because if you remember when Heather and Sean were talking about telling his mom and Sean made a comment, like she'll probably wonder, what did she do wrong?

[SPEAKER_00]: for him to end up here. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's probably the mindset of most of the parents. [SPEAKER_00]: I wanna go back to Macy because Macy's annoying, but I find her the most interesting because it feels like two people living in her body. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she and Tammy wrestle with that whole Christian thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's almost like she wants to convince us, but really she's trying to convince herself because she says things like, I know people may be surprised giving what I do, but I still have morals and values. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what do you define as morals and values? [SPEAKER_00]: And it almost feels like she's the example of Christianity that we see around these days, where she wants everyone to give her the grace, but she's not giving any grace because I do feel like she's not a mean girl.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hit one people through that around or a bully, but she's not being nice to Emily. [SPEAKER_00]: She from jump from the very first lunch that they had, yes, that's Emily's personality where it is a case of like, know your place. [SPEAKER_00]: If you're new, no one's saying that you can't speak your mind, but wait.

[SPEAKER_00]: Feel out the room. [SPEAKER_00]: These people have known each other for a while. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't talk like you know them. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't be so familiar, so early. [SPEAKER_00]: But also immediately, Mesa was like, I don't trust her intentions. [SPEAKER_00]: She's here to do this and I'm like, all right, simmer down girl.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I agree, she was almost like brought in because we needed somebody to show us a difference because they are like such a sister circle, like so supportive, we totally get it girl. [SPEAKER_01]: We're all going through the same thing. [SPEAKER_01]: And then here comes Emily. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay girl, I was like, no one's keeping it real here.

[SPEAKER_01]: You all know what you're doing. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're not these little perfect cookie cutter Christian women. [SPEAKER_01]: Like you've [SPEAKER_01]: they're trying to portray that and keep their like innocence and keep their glossy perfection. [SPEAKER_01]: But they're not. [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's really like calling them out on that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you're right. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's so interesting. [SPEAKER_01]: I am like truly waiting on Bated Breath to see me see tell her dad. [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be at the best part of the season. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I do want to know how she justifies, because again, I do think she's judgmental.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know how she justifies her, as she always reminds us, her values and her Christian morals, how she justifies that what she's doing. [SPEAKER_00]: So to the point where her on-screen name is Church Girls, [SPEAKER_00]: I just, that's leading in a little bit too hard, but then the other part of me is like, is she the smart one?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because she's the only one who we know their screen name. [SPEAKER_00]: So if anyone is really into that, I just know to search church girls. [SPEAKER_00]: And then you can find her and she gets my money, but I'm just like, for someone who's trying to be so not out. [SPEAKER_00]: We're getting a lot of information.

[SPEAKER_01]: for me. [SPEAKER_01]: That is so true. [SPEAKER_01]: She is giving us one of those like caricatures that we see on all of these shows. [SPEAKER_01]: Like the girl who's like, oh, I don't like drama. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't like it's like, but they're secretly the one like staring upon all the time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like she doesn't see. [SPEAKER_01]: She's not self aware. [SPEAKER_01]: And those make great. [SPEAKER_01]: reality TV stars because she almost thinks she's like above it and like doing it better than everyone else. [SPEAKER_01]: But she's on the same, she's equal. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's why Emily like ruffled her feathers so much because she she probably was like, oh my gosh, like this is actually [SPEAKER_01]: kind of who I am and she probably can't really come to terms with that yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, she's probably having a hard time accepting that about herself that these are now the people that she's associated with. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's not at peace for what she does. [SPEAKER_00]: Like she, the thing is they all like the money. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the preview for next week, we see Megan saying like, she really wants to be a teacher.

[SPEAKER_00]: She misses being a teacher. [SPEAKER_00]: But at the point, if they say, okay, we'll give it all up and go back to being a teacher, the money's too good to give up. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, teachers are out here struggling. [SPEAKER_01]: That is not where you go back to after we've gotten a taste of this lifestyle.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, it's funny. [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking about Emily and I was describing how they're treating Emily as Emily feels like she's a bombshell on from Love Island that came in and the girls are just like shunning her. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like we're all here in our bikinis. [SPEAKER_00]: We're all here to find love and find our men, but not you go at yours.

[SPEAKER_00]: So right you nailed that. [SPEAKER_01]: She totally is the bombshell and like I cannot believe how. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and she also has a little bit of that victim hood, like I, these are again, my favorite types of reality stars come in because she comes in. [SPEAKER_01]: She's a little aggressive.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's kind of stick in her nose and say things and kind of like roughly feathers, but then she's like, oh, but everyone's picking on me and isolating me and it's like, okay, that's a little bit of. [SPEAKER_01]: that's like the women are fair to not like you if you're giving off like rancid vibes and that she's the victim and that she has her husband come in and like fight like I was living for that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, wait, no, we got ourselves a show because I'm like a villain and nobody was willing to be the villain. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we need to have like the antagonist protagonist relationships in these shows, so Emily was a necessary evil and I think her for her service, but it was so good because she again, like didn't I love those girls that like start a fight and they're like, oh my god, they're all like pick it up again.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love those girls. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so wait, let's talk about this because I don't think she's. [SPEAKER_00]: being the victim. [SPEAKER_00]: I think if we as viewers, right? [SPEAKER_00]: We're watching all these things and we're like, oh my god, you sign up for a show, shut the fuck up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And she has to live through it. [SPEAKER_00]: I would be the same way, like simmered down, get over it and flagged, what? [SPEAKER_00]: I can't listen to this one more time. [SPEAKER_00]: I, okay, I will say that she came in abrasive. [SPEAKER_00]: She came in too much, you don't know these people.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do think the punishment does not match the crime. [SPEAKER_00]: That's where I feel with the women, whether just like, [SPEAKER_00]: Who called that Tammy called her a petty a petty bitch? [SPEAKER_00]: It's a bummer like this girl does not have that much. [SPEAKER_00]: She's just like guys You sign up for this.

[SPEAKER_00]: You've been doing this rip the band a except that they may not speak to you. [SPEAKER_00]: You can always just you don't have to do this. [SPEAKER_00]: They're all acting like [SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, I gotta do this. [SPEAKER_00]: If I don't do this, I might not, I might die. [SPEAKER_00]: You have a choice.

[SPEAKER_00]: Much like all of us on earth. [SPEAKER_00]: We all have a choice. [SPEAKER_00]: So pick one. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to be in your family's good graces? [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want the money that you enjoy so much? [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to take the risk that they might not speak to you for years?

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you can make the money, then quit, then come back. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's all she's trying to say. [SPEAKER_00]: The delivery, not so great. [SPEAKER_00]: But also, [SPEAKER_00]: You're filming a TV show. [SPEAKER_00]: I think what all these people need to learn. [SPEAKER_00]: I've never filmed one if I ever filmed one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I will always remember. [SPEAKER_00]: I want to deliver a good show at the end of the day. [SPEAKER_00]: So you need to be entertained. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, for that. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's where it is and where Macy kind of annoys me. [SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is to see a point Macy does have a story also with her husband.

[SPEAKER_00]: Jim is the most entertaining husband. [SPEAKER_00]: He's giving Joe Gorga. [SPEAKER_00]: Totally is. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm obsessed with him again because I like want to be entertained and he was willing to like get into the mix so much and him and Macy have, you know, like they all seem to be like in honestly pretty great marriages.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, except for Brie and Phil, I mean, that's a whole other conversation. [SPEAKER_01]: But I really liked how they were all there for their wives in the end. [SPEAKER_01]: And I liked that. [SPEAKER_01]: I liked seeing those types of relationships. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, some of the girls, even with the housewives culture, they'll complain like, we don't need to see the husbands.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I actually like to see the husbands like dip in a little bit, because I do like to see how these women get supported at home and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: And they kind of like pull back the curtain on that. [SPEAKER_01]: And I did like seeing that. [SPEAKER_01]: But you're right about Emily.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she just, we, we needed her. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the one problem I have with her is that she kept talking about how [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any girlfriends and then she's like okay, but I'm here to like put myself out there and like for the first time like have girlfriends like she's been home with those 30 snakes in The her and her husband have and they she's with the snakes.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's with the husband. [SPEAKER_01]: She's with four kids like she's put herself in this bubble [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this was like her chance and she seemed actually like excited at the prospect of like oh my gosh like this could be a whole new like world for me and then she comes in She starts start a little fight and I think that's where I got like the victimhood a little bit because then she's on her accent interview like I don't really need girlfriends anywhere like I didn't really need this and it's like okay you can't Yeah, you have a both ways do you want to have girlfriends or do you not I think she does I think that was a defense mechanism.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let me lay [SPEAKER_00]: the lay down the story of what happened because it leads to like a really big scene from the last episode. [SPEAKER_00]: So Emily comes in. [SPEAKER_00]: Emily is kind of sucking up to Megan because that's really the only person that will talk to her and because Megan is afraid of her own shadow much I never had the literally of her own shadow.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think why we don't even see Megan's husband. [SPEAKER_00]: He's a funeral director [SPEAKER_00]: Where is it? [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: To be found. [SPEAKER_00]: So, they're already having a cast trip, episode 7, good for them, but I mean, it's to the Ozarks, but you know, we'll take anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, they go over there, they get a little Airbnb, and it's, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: We are spoiled by bravo. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll see this because they walk into their house. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh my god, it's so nice. [SPEAKER_00]: And I can just see, I'll swipe being like, oh, chisel or somebody like this is what you brought us to.

[SPEAKER_00]: And these women are like, oh my god, this is great. [SPEAKER_00]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: They were loving it. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Heather's flying and Heather decides like in her one night that she's gonna be there. [SPEAKER_00]: She has to bring all these sex toys, but did I miss this? [SPEAKER_00]: So did she not say that this was her first flight?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, she told her her dad. [SPEAKER_01]: Ever. [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, wow, this is exciting for her. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and yeah, she brings, I mean, the fact that her first time going through TSA, I mean, talk about a trauma story, first time ever she's like, oh, my gosh, I didn't realize they were going to be able to like see they pull her over and they're like, [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, who didn't warn this girl about T.S.A.

[SPEAKER_00]: Prechack or like pussy about that's when I say thinking like okay if she had to bring it and maybe they were doing content and they say they do group content that's when I was like oh wait it's not just wearing lingerie type stuff like what is happening so now let's talk about this content because then they they're so worried about being out in but they say they do group content [SPEAKER_00]: So, and then they say they have multiple social medias, so I'm so confused as to how out or not out they are or is it like we also get that scene right where Macy and Jim have like a barbecue and their friends are there and Jim is like yeah one of my friends is like a huge whatever of church girls.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you? [SPEAKER_00]: Does he know it's Macy or really he cannot tell with the wigs? [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was confused. [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good question. [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's also probably like an unspoken thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Because you're right, I think way more people know that it's them.

[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not going to just go up to someone and be like, oh, hey, like, saw your content and work you're doing. [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that there's just this, like, they, they probably don't think anybody's like seeing them or whatever, but they're probably walking through grocery stores and picking up their kids every day and there's every, I feel like a lot of people around town, probably know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess there's a chance that maybe most of their demographic is just not in their town and maybe there's just thinking like all these people like live and other states and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: So there's no way they're being found out, but like that's that's crazy to me for them to just be thinking, nobody knows.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, [SPEAKER_00]: I can understand that nowhere even close to your scale when I get on a pod when I record something in my mind I'm just talking to the person like I'm just talking to you and then that's it so when someone says oh when you said I'm like said what what you heard it like it's just it's easy to be in that bubble so that part I can understand but it's just like.

[SPEAKER_00]: thinking that no, where do you think your money is coming from? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, people are actually paying for it. [SPEAKER_00]: But whatever that scene was where Jim was like, I'm not naming names, I'm not saying anything. [SPEAKER_00]: And then the camera decides to keep pointedly focusing on each husband that was there.

[SPEAKER_00]: That had to have caused the fight because when he heirs, all their wives were there. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to be like, is it you? [SPEAKER_00]: Is it you? [SPEAKER_00]: So either way, that was something I found interesting because it's like they live among us, but no one's going to [SPEAKER_00]: um, out themselves to say that uh, I am looking at this content.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not like being a regular reality TV fan or something that's like, oh my god, you watch that show too. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh my god, let's talk about it. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, or I saw you post on your page that you like to play pickleball too. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is like a secret society that's not only being talked about it, like group gatherings.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It is like a true underground thing. [SPEAKER_01]: So like, not only do the [SPEAKER_01]: content creators not want to be outed, but like the people who are consuming the content don't want to be outed too. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So going back.

[SPEAKER_00]: So now they're going to the trip in the Ozarks and then they're all going and then I think May sees the one who is not out yet and she's stressing out and all of the things. [SPEAKER_00]: So she's asked Jim to come down. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if she told the ladies, but again, it's not house-wise where they get mad.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, why are you bringing old man? [SPEAKER_00]: It's supposed to be all girls thing. [SPEAKER_00]: That's not a thing for them. [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they think it's cute, that the producer tries to ask Jim. [SPEAKER_00]: Are you a co-dependent and who's like, what do you mean? [SPEAKER_00]: And coincidentally, he gets a call for a macy at the sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think they saw a codependent if they really are. [SPEAKER_00]: They absolutely are. [SPEAKER_00]: So then they compromise and the compromises like the husbands are gonna come the next day, which turned out to be a good or bad idea, TBD, who knows what that was. [SPEAKER_00]: But so that's what happened.

[SPEAKER_00]: So in the first day that they're on their Emily, does what Emily does, that's when they have drinks and she's like simmer down, just rip the banded off, like they're gonna know anyways, you've been doing this, and Tammy takes that so personally. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's just like, I can't be quiet.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you can't see things like that. [SPEAKER_00]: But at some point, I will say Emily did say, when whoever explained it to her, she's like, oh, I get it now. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what gave her the revelation. [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't anything so groundbreaking, but she could see it now.

[SPEAKER_00]: But they refuse to ignore that. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not acknowledging the fact that she says, oh, I see it now. [SPEAKER_00]: They come after her. [SPEAKER_00]: It fellow content creator, how can you say this to us? [SPEAKER_00]: You have no idea what it means. [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Macy turns on the water works in her bad wig and it's just a sight to see for that and that continues into the room and then Emily makes things worse by going to Megan and saying you could just stood up for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: You just left me out there. [SPEAKER_00]: Now I don't think it's Megan's job to stand up for her, but in a case where like there's like five people against one. [SPEAKER_00]: It's more like, hey, let's take a breath. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a beat like, [SPEAKER_00]: It's just one person you got your point across we don't need to keep you know beating that but I don't think she knows that's how well she doesn't know these girls Megan is not the one not the worst one [SPEAKER_00]: She aligned herself with someone who was like not gonna help her at all at all at all so she lets her know Megan doesn't say anything the next day's breakfast and all the girls are having breakfast I thought I heard Emily say I'm not gonna hide out, but I think she was hiding out

[SPEAKER_00]: She did come out. [SPEAKER_00]: She was on her phone talking to her husband probably because she doesn't have any friends And then they talked to Megan and they were like, I think she's using you because she has no friend You have to pick a side and yada yada yada yada and I'm like, oh my [SPEAKER_01]: God, we're in high school all over again.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes. [SPEAKER_01]: So I hated that, too. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like these shows have got to be about conflict and resolution. [SPEAKER_01]: They can't just fight and then like I somebody out. [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're needed to be again, like more production standpoint. [SPEAKER_01]: And there's someone needed to get in the ring and get in the corner with her and like talk them both kind of like off of a ledge.

[SPEAKER_01]: But again, Megan was so whoresless person ever. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like any of the other girls [SPEAKER_01]: even with TV even you know like any of the other girls she would she should have been hanging out with brie like brie seems like she's got a little bit of a backbone and she would have like had her back a little bit more and like more of a bridge but Megan who hasn't said five words all season all of a sudden is not she's just a friend Emily like it was not going to happen it was doomed yeah [SPEAKER_01]: from the star and then we just knew, yeah, she was like the first easiest to be manipulated to like come back to the group.

[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need Emily and all of a sudden, Emily was on Island by herself, which is then not good for anybody. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I was going to say that. [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't think she had to be with the top dog. [SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, there's a hierarchy in groups like this.

[SPEAKER_00]: We saw this in Love Island. [SPEAKER_00]: They're just hierarchy like she has to be with a male. [SPEAKER_00]: She had to be with someone off there that would have something because once she says, hey guys, maybe we should give her a chance and just see what she's about. [SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden, there'd be like, okay, you know, and you know, [SPEAKER_00]: God, the Bible tells us that we should, but if everyone's agreeing to just like, okay, we're just gonna keep being mean So then they say all these things and of course Megan, she's like, okay, guys all right I'm gonna take a side of pick a side [SPEAKER_00]: And then she goes over to Emily, and then she tells Emily that she's not going to not pick people that she's been friends with for a while.

[SPEAKER_00]: The friends that she didn't really care for, one of them that she refused absolutely to speak to, by the way, in case we forgot. [SPEAKER_00]: So she's going to pick a side and she's like, I'm so sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't. [SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, Emily handled it well.

[SPEAKER_00]: If I be say so myself, she's just like, I'm proud of you. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: It is what it is. [SPEAKER_00]: I wish to you say something, but I'm not like it's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm a loner and I operate on myself by myself and I will continue to do that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when she went back and that new friend of I don't even know who her name is. [SPEAKER_00]: She popped up. [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, she come from. [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what she makes content. [SPEAKER_01]: Like who is this girl? [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she makes content. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, [SPEAKER_00]: blown up or just like fought any of them.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I say the punishment doesn't match. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's nothing of conversation couldn't have fixed. [SPEAKER_00]: They just decided to alter unless there's something else that we don't know about because they like to keep things off camera. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that is very true.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think Emily, again, like this is just the curse of the first season girls because I think if they were to be in a little more tenure, they would have just had more conversation and like somehow reached some kind of a new resolution, but like they kind of both shut it down. [SPEAKER_01]: Emily kind of just got quiet, like stayed in her room.

[SPEAKER_01]: We know she we know what she did. [SPEAKER_01]: She picked up that phone and she started texting her husband. [SPEAKER_00]: and getting him all worked up. [SPEAKER_01]: But like, yeah, those girls are here picking on me. [SPEAKER_01]: These girls just told me that they're icing me out. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want me here.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she should have just said that to the girls. [SPEAKER_01]: She should have like, marched upstairs. [SPEAKER_01]: And then like, oh, no, you send Megan downstairs. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, tell me that she should have like went to the group. [SPEAKER_01]: But she went to the outside source.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that just caused like World War III, which was not yet. [SPEAKER_00]: Not good. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right. [SPEAKER_00]: I think she could have just come down. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, hey guys, I know we got off on the wrong foot. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think things are just missing this dude.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to say like it's inevitable. [SPEAKER_00]: We're filming a show because that's the other thing. [SPEAKER_00]: It's quite breaking down the fourth wall. [SPEAKER_00]: They do mention the show is going to air in a few months. [SPEAKER_00]: The show is going to work, you know, so she could have just said, you know, the show is going to come out.

[SPEAKER_00]: So regardless, it is all I'm trying to say is like, [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's going to be difficult, but it would just, it's better to just get through it, realize where you stand with people and then work to us that plan versus, you know, robbing her. [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say they're picking her up, but again, I don't know what was not shown for her to feel iced out.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if like more things happen and she's like, I'm not going to come out. [SPEAKER_00]: If that's how they're talking to me because they are the queen bees. [SPEAKER_00]: And for the fact that Emily came later, I'm trying to understand [SPEAKER_00]: If there was some kind of resentments at this is a group we chose why are you bringing somebody else are you saying we're not good enough like things like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking [SPEAKER_00]: something behind the scenes and they want to make sure that they keep the group to the group that they agreed upon. [SPEAKER_00]: That's just, you know, what I was thinking. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is a weird choice on productions, but to have such a group of girls that are so thick and go such so far back and to have one random that is in the front group, like Emily needed an ally, but she doesn't have any friends.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like if Emily would have known one other person, she probably could have brought her on the show with her to [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, friend of situation, but yeah, it was good casting because obviously, like, look, we're sitting talking about her, like, she brought it onto the show and like, I think it was great, but it was just strange all together, like how we ended up with like one, they should have brought like another girl from like another suburb, and then then at least if Emily did it, you know, they didn't know each other, but there would be two kind of outcasts and they would probably bond [SPEAKER_00]: you did a little bit more yeah variety yeah and you know well production got one thing right they made Nathan's call time he came in last so everybody all the other husbands had come in Nathan comes in Nathan was already fired up like you mentioned earlier he's like I just want to go in there to ask them why they're treating my wife this way but we can see why they're together because the

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh he came in like I've never seen somebody and they're like first group scene ever coming that hot like [SPEAKER_01]: It was just a move that like, I don't know, I still don't know what to think. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I still need a little more time to sit with me because that was just like the best thing I've ever seen or like the most horrible decision I've ever like, I cannot decide yet because I do love to see him standing up for his wife.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But there were just so many other ways that could have been published like, yeah, and he's also small man syndrome like you could tell like he's like the small guy in the group. [SPEAKER_01]: So he came in again very gorge like like, I'm going to come in and I'm going to puff my chest up and it was like, okay, like calm down a little bit, but also like don't calm down because that's great.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we did a little excitement, and that's what we got. [SPEAKER_00]: But the vibes were good, right? [SPEAKER_00]: So everyone was already, well, the women were already, like, Mopee, and like I said, Tammy called Emily a petty bitch. [SPEAKER_00]: And she did tell, you know, when the husbands were there, and I was like, I'm not trying to bring down the vibes but I just want to say like, one person has been.

[SPEAKER_00]: But Jim, even was just like, you know what? [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just have fun. [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's just, you know, let it blow over. [SPEAKER_00]: And then here comes Mr. Emily just like, I am here to talk to all the women here for treating my wife that way.

[SPEAKER_00]: You listen to me and then Jim is like, okay, what we're not going to do is that and he's like, can I finish? [SPEAKER_00]: Can I finish? [SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes over to Jim, who is like a big guy? [SPEAKER_00]: Who's talking to him? [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, listen to me, something about little something, he was just being obnoxious and be rude and Jim is not going, Jim is not the person's dick, the high road.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a high road kind of person. [SPEAKER_00]: No, he's a drama tear out. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then, um, [SPEAKER_00]: He says, bucking against him and then pushing him and bucking against him and then Tammy's husband comes in against it and I'm like, okay, we're cooking TLC, let's go and then he pushes him, then I'm like, wait, I'm a little scared.

[SPEAKER_00]: Are we pulling two on one because no, that's not fair. [SPEAKER_00]: We're security. [SPEAKER_00]: What's happening, Bella, when I tell you when Jim threw that punch. [SPEAKER_00]: I got out loud. [SPEAKER_01]: Me too. [SPEAKER_01]: I was not expecting it because we saw in the preview for next week, but I'm like, oh, I've seen a thousand of these.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like, I will not be fooled by a teaser to be continued. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I thought for sure it was going to end. [SPEAKER_01]: Like someone was just going to break it up. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, they went in on each other while. [SPEAKER_00]: He punched him and I was like, oh my god, did a tooth fly out?

[SPEAKER_00]: Did something like, oh, it connected, it connected and then they're on the ground, then the security guy comes in much later, cannot separate them. [SPEAKER_00]: He keeps saying, get off him, get off him. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Emily thought she was going to do. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what happened.

[SPEAKER_00]: All I know is like, Jim had blood in his face. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he hit his face on the pool table. [SPEAKER_00]: But was there a punch dating show because the camera wasn't trying to show the fight? [SPEAKER_00]: That's the other bad part. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm like, oh no!

[SPEAKER_00]: Where is it? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no! [SPEAKER_00]: But where's the fight? [SPEAKER_00]: But they kept cutting away from the fight. [SPEAKER_00]: But I was just like, and I think they were shocked too. [SPEAKER_00]: They were not sure what to do. [SPEAKER_01]: And still in shock because we don't see that anymore.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, that took me back because we don't, you don't see stuff like that anymore in reality TV. [SPEAKER_01]: Like it has became so like protected and like the lawsuit and the assault like, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't usually escalate like that anymore on shows. [SPEAKER_01]: Like that reminded me of like 20, 10's reality TV.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like they gave me some feels because I haven't felt like that so long. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not that I'm promoting violence, but it just we haven't seen some like that raw emotion like that and so like things get so usually like diffused in the moment because people know it's like not worth it but again like because these people have never been on TV before I do not think that they were understanding.

[SPEAKER_01]: the consequences of their actions. [SPEAKER_01]: Like they don't know what that would lead to. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was shocking. [SPEAKER_00]: It was shocking. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It was, but can I tell you, the silver lining of this is it's been so long since, like you said, [SPEAKER_00]: we've seen people who are not sanitizing their image because of what's going to happen after in the brand deals.

[SPEAKER_00]: So say notes and violence, but this was raw emotion. [SPEAKER_00]: This was genuine. [SPEAKER_00]: Like they were not thinking about, oh my god, our followers. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, our social account or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: This was actual like, [SPEAKER_00]: worked up men here, raw men.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, and that man got knocked up. [SPEAKER_01]: No, that is the exact part. [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody now is so concerned about the image and the fan fall out and what people are going to say the next day. [SPEAKER_01]: They're not even thinking about having fans yet. [SPEAKER_01]: They're not even thinking that the show is going to air.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they are aware they're making a TV show sometimes. [SPEAKER_01]: This is great for us. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we'll ever get like a season one like this again for a while in a show that's a totally new content, totally new story like it was just something we've never seen before but I did not expect it to go there and wow, just wow.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there was enough to break up the party. [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's like, yeah, I just want to go. [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, may she's like, oh my god, I was so scared. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes, I understand her being scared, but it's just like, I don't know why we went. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how we escalated that fast, but it did.

[SPEAKER_00]: Emily and Nathan, I just like, they're going to leave and, you know, they all they need is each other. [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to hang out with their kids. [SPEAKER_00]: And all I was thinking was like, okay, so she off the show. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just hear the other women be like, I never filming with her again.

[SPEAKER_00]: She punched my husband and all that. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what happens. [SPEAKER_00]: We're getting to find out. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how many episodes the season is. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you know. [SPEAKER_01]: No, me neither. [SPEAKER_01]: I really have just been living one week at a time with these people.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like who knows if they're just going to be canceled. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm surprised we've gotten seven. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm so curious how it's going to continue. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, I, I benched this over the weekend, guys. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even know there was any episodes right before we recorded.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just happened to go on HP and I was like, Oh, new episode. [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what day comes on for anything, but we'll be interesting to see. [SPEAKER_00]: And lately, all the TLC [SPEAKER_00]: If the show sticks on the wall having six episodes like I'm not even expecting a finale and I see a finale and I'm like, oh, okay So we'll see how many episodes they have I know more than likely to definitely would not have a reunion and they probably shouldn't I don't think they're Experience enough to give us a reunion.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's worth our time. [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I agree with you Like not every show needs a reunion that will kind of get in overdone now. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, unless there's gonna be [SPEAKER_01]: conversation that's going to come from it, like we don't need to catch up, but then we can just give them a season too.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, I mean, I was assuming next week will be the finale with Macy and Macy. [SPEAKER_01]: That's like the only one that hasn't came out yet, and I think they're going to end with like a bang with that one. [SPEAKER_00]: I just seven just seems odd. [SPEAKER_01]: Like a seven season, a seven episode season just seems it's usually maybe six or eight, but we'll see.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, either way, like I said, we're just vibing, but before we wrap up the episode, I just want to touch on Bree. [SPEAKER_00]: Bree, I thought, would be like, [SPEAKER_00]: bigger in the sense because like I said after Tammy, it seems like Bree was a person that we got on her story the first few episodes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Then he kind of slowed down. [SPEAKER_00]: Then he came back up because she was great with a husband's feel and all of a sudden we find out that they're having problems and that he stepped out on her and we're like again with the transition. [SPEAKER_00]: Guide me in as a viewer like I don't want these real posters of what's going on and it just shows like, you know, she kept going like He broke the boundaries and he took a while before we even found out what the boundaries were I'm like, okay, what are the boundaries Then we find out they're swinging with other couples.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess swinging is the right term, right? [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they kept saying they're creating content [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, are they it's easier to play to play with oh, no, please like children play. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, these are not people that are playing So yeah, so they have that and then even when she said it it seemed like he was messaging people I don't know if he played with yes, he did with people behind her back [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was like something done a while back.

[SPEAKER_00]: But then when she was talking to a friend of who came from nowhere, she's like, I found out that he was messaging, messaging other people, spending lots of money on content, and doing all the things and she's like, she told him divorce is not. [SPEAKER_00]: you know, it's not off the table, like it's something that you will consider.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just, it's all weird to me that he was like, well, we didn't discuss boundaries, we didn't know what to do. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, why do you need that spelled out to you? [SPEAKER_00]: If you're in a relationship with a woman, even if it's not monogamous, [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't it common sense like why are you hiding it?

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go back. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're hiding it because you're eating out. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so don't tell me like Oh, she didn't tell you what the boundaries are you're a grown man Who should know what the boundaries are and just to remind that that men are weird you get to do the other women you get to do whatever you want and yet [SPEAKER_01]: You still he's taken advantage of this like he yes exactly breathe like giving him everything that I mean I don't want to say every husband, but you know every man's fantasy problem would be oh back I don't want to have a wife and still be able to do whatever you know whatever 2026.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it became a little more acceptable to be an open relationships. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, okay, now he finally gets one and it's like, now we are going to still be hiding and still be doing it in the shadows when you've been given a pass like that just shows that that's your character now it's it's she's right for taking the approach that she's in where she's like, okay, no you're taking it too far we're not going to do this divorce is on the table, I mean, I [SPEAKER_01]: he didn't ever apologize, he wouldn't take any accountability, he's in those therapy sessions, he won't even fill out the little sheet where he's supposed to explain what he wants, like he won't do any work on it, and it's such a bummer because you would think they would be this power couple, like those were the vibes the first couple episodes, like if we're making content, they're both doing this, they're in this open marriage, like I thought, okay, wow, are we going to see like a real modern version of this?

[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, oh, no, no, no, no, like it really showed us that like that is a way harder thing to achieve, like that still kind of remains. [SPEAKER_01]: Probably in a very, very small percentage of people who successfully are able to do that without getting jealous and having secrets and communication is the number one most important part of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that man cannot communicate for shit. [SPEAKER_00]: when nothing. [SPEAKER_00]: He's still going to understand why he has to and that's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, they're doomed. [SPEAKER_01]: Like nothing. [SPEAKER_01]: I also love more than a season two glow up is like a season two divorce.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like one of these couples break up next season. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and then it becomes an epidemic because like one person divorces and then it's has coming out and then all the marriages that we think like seem fine. [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, well, we weren't getting along but I was holding out hope that we could work [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that's it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's it. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that's why we got the gist of it. [SPEAKER_00]: Did you have any last thoughts or anything we didn't cover, you know, I think we covered everyone. [SPEAKER_01]: It was again so good. [SPEAKER_01]: I always been I've been morning everybody like you're going to need.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like it might take you a couple times to get through the first couple episodes, but it is worth it. [SPEAKER_01]: You did the right thing, binging it like I would recommend this binge to anybody. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a great it's a great story if you're just looking for something that's not your average show and you're just interested in getting to know on random new group of women in community.

[SPEAKER_01]: I did find it very interesting. [SPEAKER_01]: but say, like, hold on to the end, like you don't want to quit a few times. [SPEAKER_01]: We made it. [SPEAKER_01]: We did it. [SPEAKER_01]: We got here. [SPEAKER_01]: We got to episodes seven and like I think the finale is going to be good.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to probably have to come back and talk again. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you guys know, I'm always honest with you. [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, Belle, I've had a show. [SPEAKER_00]: I was in, we were covering it. [SPEAKER_00]: After the first one, I was like, as I can't do this. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like this show that's it.

[SPEAKER_00]: That I'm not saying that's where suburban wives are. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not there. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not as high as on it as Bella is, but I think it is worth a binge. [SPEAKER_00]: And I do agree that it's better if you binge it. [SPEAKER_00]: then, you know, waiting episodes episode because on a C season one is not the best intro to the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to watch it and you're going to be like, if I see it, I'll watch it again. [SPEAKER_00]: But when there's another episode, you're like, oh, it's coming down already. [SPEAKER_00]: Let me just watch it. [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, I would say that. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not a absolutely not to waste your time.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm also not unlike, oh, I love this show. [SPEAKER_00]: But it is intriguing. [SPEAKER_00]: The concept alone. [SPEAKER_00]: is quite intriguing that we have all these people who think they're not out and all these other people who are pretending not to know who they are because they don't want to be out in their own way and everyone's in the small town pretending while this women are making their money while resting within themselves between their Christian faith and some people have pastor that he's who think like you're the best and he said the blessing in his life is having a daughter like her so I just want to know what his sermon is going to be when he finds out [SPEAKER_00]: You know, what she's doing is, you know, she's still a blessing.

[SPEAKER_00]: She's just has a different job than what you anticipated. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm curious from his point of view. [SPEAKER_00]: So what that mean, past the daddy? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like there's room for improvement. [SPEAKER_01]: There's room for growth. [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see them come back when they understand how filming works.

[SPEAKER_01]: And now what they've seen, like, you know, to see the reactions, like, I do hope we get to continue following these women. [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, if you don't ever watch, you'll probably survive. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm so excited to be got to talk about it. [SPEAKER_01]: I am dying too.

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