Love is Blind Poland: Season 1 Reunion w/Brian

0:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Hi everybody, welcome to another episode of All To Call. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, Tane, here to talk to you about the love is blind Poland reunion. [SPEAKER_01]: And here with me is Brian from Mass Virgin as always. [SPEAKER_01]: Hi Brian, how are you? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good and I'm hoping that Nick and Vanessa took notes, this is not a perfect reunion.

0:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like I had my mind blown or anything like that, but it was efficient. [SPEAKER_00]: They asked the questions I wanted to have asked. [SPEAKER_00]: They almost didn't answer, still a couple of them, but they got answers. [SPEAKER_00]: And we didn't have fun, side games and missions and people in the audience and all that stuff.

0:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was an efficient, good, efficient reunion. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can see that it was clinical. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the way. [SPEAKER_01]: It was just like they did what they had to do. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you know, they don't have an audience. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we don't need an audience.

0:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's what the problem is. [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need one. [SPEAKER_01]: We're creating an audience. [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is when you have an audience, you have to entertain the audience. [SPEAKER_01]: And then you think you need all this side of us. [SPEAKER_01]: And then it becomes whatever our union is.

1:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: Made in New York, press Paul. [SPEAKER_00]: They think about like a housewives or union. [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have like a live audience in the housewives or unions in like past housewives check in with or anything. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, it's just them talking about the show.

1:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and just, you know, getting down to business. [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was um, [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe we're done with this season and I don't know why I can't believe we're done because the same format and in fact, it might be one less week, then you are so before I get into it, just wanted to read a comment that I got from Christina says greetings from Poland therapy is pretty popular here and getting more and more a thing and a woo is a yes a thing I have never heard that before in my life and we got confirmation of that.

1:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he tried to like, no, we were all doing it and they were like yeah, but you did it a lot [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so the reunion started with an accapella version of their love is blind song. [SPEAKER_01]: If you guys don't remember, I, you know, we pointed out that they have their own song, like, you know, love is blind, but it's the accapella version.

2:21 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't say love is blind in English. [SPEAKER_01]: The now they say love is blind, like you Polish in this version of the song. [SPEAKER_01]: And then until montage of all the participants of their first times in the pods and today at the reunion. [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's just been a year, but is it possible to kind of age in a year?

2:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's what it looked like. [SPEAKER_01]: Is it just harsh makeup? [SPEAKER_00]: Some of them aged. [SPEAKER_00]: Some of them was harsh makeup. [SPEAKER_00]: My eye was distracted by the fact that song went on for nine minutes. [SPEAKER_00]: Like this intro kept on going. [SPEAKER_00]: Just like, all right, all right, let's get them on stage.

2:54 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to have like a dramatic intro for each of them. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the whole walking first, then they all slowly trickle in and he just seemed so Sumber much like the season. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like okay, whatever my getting myself into So I'm dying and feeling walking, but it was hard to tell I'm like, oh, are they still together and then I'm like wait Marta and Damien are not here [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what, what's happening?

3:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that happened. [SPEAKER_01]: I want to say the Swedish season or whatever season, they came in last and it was because they were pregnant. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, okay, we're probably going to get that because I get, I was telling you last time the European versions, we get a lot of that.

3:37 [SPEAKER_01]: So we get a time stamp, it's almost a year. [SPEAKER_01]: And then they say, they're going to show some on air footage and I was like, ooh, but I should have known that. [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like trash. [SPEAKER_00]: We think, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then they casually tell us like, oh, Martha and Damian couldn't be with us, but they sent a video and I just got a rationaly mad and I got a rationaly mad because [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like when couples don't participate as they shoot together.

4:05 [SPEAKER_01]: This is how I felt when Ronda unmasked. [SPEAKER_01]: They just didn't go to the couples retreat. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, no, it just ruins the vibe. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like not being part of a group project. [SPEAKER_01]: It just throws everything off, and I don't like it. [SPEAKER_01]: I want it to be the way that it is.

4:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And it goes to what we've experienced the season where it's hard for us to follow if you're not giving us information. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and also, you got to give me even lie about why they can't be there. [SPEAKER_00]: They can't be there because someone is sick. [SPEAKER_00]: They can't be there because there's work obligation, something.

4:40 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, yeah, they couldn't come. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean they couldn't come? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then that was good. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll say, Lincoln was like a medical emergency. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because, you know what, if love is blindfolded, it's not going to tell us, you know, who's going to tell us, read it.

4:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So, read this, had a thing and says, like, it looks like she had a miscarriage or was going through a miscarriage, because Martha posted something about, you know, medical, [SPEAKER_01]: post-care after you have a, see, DNC or something, something that actually basically, it looks like they were going through a miscarriage and she could make it, but on the flip side, we're saying also that they might not be together.

5:24 [SPEAKER_01]: because Damien was posting, oh, I'm watching the reunion with the cheating, was it cheating Camille and laughing or something? [SPEAKER_01]: And then our talk was to something about, oh, just needing a day off and think, like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not looking good, but I think they only post in Polish, so I don't know.

5:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's I'm just staying, but I also understand that in this day and age, anyone can post anything, so I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: What is it? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: out it was it was distracting me that it wasn't like hey this is give me give me any kind of a reason and I'll go with it but just to be like yeah they couldn't be here anyway on to the rest of everybody awesome said well that seems a little bit fucked up to me [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's just like it's just not into DNA of a reality show.

6:07 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't be KG and have a reality show and we're going to see a lot of instances throughout the episode of this and I'm like, if that's one critique I have to give for Poland, it's just like, listen guys, everyone be on board that. [SPEAKER_01]: This is a reality show and we got to give people information, you know?

6:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're here for some kind of, answer some questions, fill on some links. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so we do watch the video and I'm like, I mean, I guess they're still together because we get pictures of them with the dogs. [SPEAKER_01]: They got a place together Christmas together cooking together.

6:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's just a little on the welding, you know, say, and I just didn't understand at the time, like just tell us why they can't make it because this is weird, you know. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so there wasn't much, it was almost all filmed by Marta, we didn't really get that much out of him at all, which like, I'm okay with, I don't need, you know, but like, it was, it was very short, um, it just, I didn't have an idea for like, when these things were going on, this could have all been filmed over the course of like two weeks.

7:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, someone did also say that, um, he was also ready posting like he got a bad edit, so. [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_00]: And he got a bad introduction, but after that, he seemed fine to me. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so they move on to the other couple who said yes, which is Daria and Philip and they're sitting together.

7:37 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not like sitting close together, but then they ask them. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't even drag it out. [SPEAKER_01]: They just said, are you together or not? [SPEAKER_01]: And they were like, yes, we're still together. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just shocked as when he said yes. [SPEAKER_01]: And they're still together.

7:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very surprised, but they seem like really happy. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it, I mean, they, they seem like they're doing well. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was surprised, but like, hey, good for you guys, I guess. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I thought they look happy and they seem settled in, but it seems to think like his body language is still one of an unhappy person and I'm like, it's trauma Philip, like, I mean, you got it, he can't think that I would prefer him, but they're like, he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he

8:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And over the course of the last year, Phillip has moved in with her, and it's still an adjustment. [SPEAKER_01]: Being married, but it's been great. [SPEAKER_01]: They visited four countries in a year, which is not bad. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the considering is a flight attendant. [SPEAKER_01]: It's nice.

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9:06 [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense. [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense. [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense. [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense. [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense. [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But one thing that was interesting to me was the whole time they were showing their footage and during that time, the camera focused a lot on Yulita.

9:22 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, there's not a cheating scandal, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is happening right now? [SPEAKER_00]: They were doing that a lot. [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of Yulita had a lot of Malica got a lot of just like random shots of her face. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, I don't know why we're [SPEAKER_00]: it seemed it seemed like it was a deliberate choice and I didn't understand why that was a choice there making.

9:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because there was no payoff. [SPEAKER_01]: It looked like we were doing that or like okay where we headed to it and it better not be the French thing because it did not match how much to have shown it. [SPEAKER_01]: The whole time. [SPEAKER_01]: The only other thing I was thinking was like well he was the other person in the square or a quadrant case that they had but I mean it's been over a year like I'm thinking they got over that and I'd respect for their marriage why would she still be feeling bitter about it.

10:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it never came up on the show. [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like it was something that was discussed on the show or maybe the wrong choice or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: It never came back up. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a weird view of it here. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Darius says like, you know, the year was challenging.

10:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Like she had health issues, but he stepped up. [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what the health issues are. [SPEAKER_01]: And he stepped up. [SPEAKER_01]: And he also had problems. [SPEAKER_01]: I work, but they supported each other and again. [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. [SPEAKER_01]: People's health issues is not for everyone's consumption.

10:42 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just when we're telling the narrative that these people are being taged, and we're just trying to keep up with what is private, what is not. [SPEAKER_01]: I have to throw this in the pot, too, because I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I just want you to love his blind Sweden, where there's a guy who had, and he was like a brain tumor or something, and then he had a real app, and then we're just open about it.

11:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it happened. [SPEAKER_01]: but he stepped up at a work issue, but it's all KG and I have to just go through that and be invested, but you're giving me nothing. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I hope that she could be a broken ankle or it could be a chronic illness. [SPEAKER_00]: Like we don't know what exactly happened here and I don't, not that I need to know, but it will help you to understand exactly what his role was in like supporting you in those moments.

11:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is it like a case of you couldn't function like he had to drop everything yet to believe you have to help you walk or he just had to like Not sure you make you add like some soup or just like I don't know we don't know Exactly, I've got you water [SPEAKER_01]: She's like they're putting in effort because love is not enough and she did share that her grandpa that we see in the video He's having Dimension she didn't say Dimension, but it's like she says that's what it is nice them, but that's you know what it is Philip also adds that He lost a friend and an accident in India and you know he they trained together Did they their flight training together and it was just really rough and I was like I know that life is full of challenges but got down

12:12 [SPEAKER_01]: This was a lot for them. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, y'all been going through it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, you know, for him who's already kind of always a sad sack and always kind of feeling down. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was interesting to me that he was like, well, I went through a hard thing.

12:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Not fuck that I'm still going through. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still really sad about it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, oh, yeah, she's. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was, it was a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: Like these are just valid things. [SPEAKER_01]: And the camera still injury to the whole time. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the horses asked if, um, [SPEAKER_01]: but she's Augustus as she made his family and she says yes she has and she gets along with them and she most especially gets along with his sister and law who's also Daria and I'm wishing you this because you remember last time Brian when I was saying how it seems like the names are very common like it's a case of [SPEAKER_01]: When you go into a place, there might be one or two cameas.

13:04 [SPEAKER_01]: There might be one or two meals. [SPEAKER_01]: And now there's like, Darius, like, you're more likely to find someone who is who has to say name as you do, you know, when you go somewhere. [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, they get along well. [SPEAKER_01]: They talk about the wedding and how he usually panics and Darius, like I mean, that's how he is.

13:22 [SPEAKER_01]: He just always panics and they ask. [SPEAKER_01]: if he regrets his comment at the reveal he says he does but again my criticism which of the comments you love nothing to the imagination you're a hot piece of ass you're which one I you know I don't know he never regrets everything so it's probably all he'll be about he said that he thought like he would pass out on there and she was like yes I did [SPEAKER_01]: and i'm like well i don't know which one you're talking about but great that you call them out but they asked her about saying like hey you said he's not the kind of man that you would date and she was like yes that was very hard to watch like you know i find him attractive and very much in love with

14:06 [SPEAKER_01]: him inside and out. [SPEAKER_01]: We have great chemistry, but I don't know, basically that was her truth at the time, but maybe she shouldn't bring that honest on there. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: She does act though that you know, the thing is like, if you look at the reveals of mother and Damien, that's what every girl dreams of and I'm like, what would you say that?

14:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it? [SPEAKER_00]: Does every girl want to have men say, I can't stand up because I'm fully wrecked right now? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that seems like it's too far. [SPEAKER_00]: It is flattering, but I don't know that he needs to verbalize it. [SPEAKER_00]: Is the thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

14:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I think what she meant was the enthusiasm. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: There was no doubt at all that he was excited and happy with what he saw with Martha. [SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't, you're married, didn't mean me for comparison, like you just like see that you wanted an enthusiastic reveal and you wanted to want to feel like, but to name names was just yeah, maybe we can leave that.

15:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, out of that. [SPEAKER_00]: It's been fun. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So Darius says, like, you know, cutting yourself off from your phones and from the world, or even a mom or friend that's saying, oh, no, because you want to vent or get advice from them, I'm like, oh, what?

15:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the camera does come to you. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, she did not say that. [SPEAKER_01]: I love it. [SPEAKER_01]: But no, she did not say that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but there's a So she said that she learned through this experiment that your partner should be your friend.

15:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, huh? [SPEAKER_01]: Deeks bareman [SPEAKER_00]: Never crushed number four, huh? [SPEAKER_00]: Never considered being a friend to your partner before this? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, great. [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't say that they argue, but they handle it well. [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is, he's always the one who ends it first, because she's so stubborn.

15:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, he'll just come and make a bug, and all that. [SPEAKER_01]: We just don't think she recognizes it, but maybe she should practice. [SPEAKER_01]: Coming from someone who's stubborn. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: She should practice, maybe, just like. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, I'm sorry, but if he's doing it, I guess.

16:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Just wait for him to do it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's where she is. [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's nice that he's doing it, but also you don't want him to get like fed up by doing it. [SPEAKER_01]: So to ask about her his flights like if she used to with yet and she's like she's not used to his flights yet and she's still working on it, but she does recognize that he needs his rest.

16:34 [SPEAKER_01]: and usually when he's home she just tries to go to the gym because apparently she can't do anything quietly because you know when she gets frustrated she's like slamming the cabinets and you know I'm like well that's not good but you know then the first year of marriage and hopefully she learns from that so we'll see right over your bag and pots and pans if you get into an argument that's not a great sign [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like Tunisia and Badger's Club.

16:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So, they asked what the rest of, you know, what they first seen in the future, they say they wanna enjoy each other, get to know each other and enjoy life, get a bigger apartment, and then get a dog. [SPEAKER_01]: This dog conversation becomes a thing because the host says, so, so, so shy, it's just, he said he wanted a dog, he said he wanted a dog, he said he wanted a big dog.

17:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm a small dog, oh, just keep asking for the dog and just kind of made it about herself and I'm like, can we move on? [SPEAKER_01]: You'll get a dog when they want to eat a dog. [SPEAKER_00]: She is with this dog as Vanessa is with when you have no baby. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just a lot of like they will get a dog when they get a dog.

17:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, they don't need your advice on that. [SPEAKER_01]: They'll be okay. [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was wondering if they were going to bring up the for some. [SPEAKER_01]: they do, but not in the way I thought. [SPEAKER_01]: Again, my American mind is used to messy.

17:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking going to show when they both, you know, high five of each other like, oh, we made a choice. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we're going with this person. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're going with that. [SPEAKER_01]: And then, um, Daria is like, you can't just make a choice like that. [SPEAKER_01]: I have to have a saying instead, they'll just show how both of them were friends, the women's quarters, the men's quarters, and they were just happy and, you know, dancing with each other, [SPEAKER_01]: The end and then they choose and like oh god.

18:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I am spoiled. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh great The merging me. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is not messy. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's it. [SPEAKER_01]: So even that even it says it was it was that it wasn't hard to watch But it was a shock and I'm like you watch the same thing like what we were shocking Maybe it's lost in translation again [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe and it's it's always interesting for me to watch the reunions because this is the only time I watch it dubbed They're not dubbed subtitles because they don't have to do dubbing and you know quickly enough.

18:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah Here in the voice is as wild to me Um, and needing to look at the same time like I'm not used to this. [SPEAKER_01]: I am not used to this Welcome The SX as it was fun and Philips says no there was no jealousy and I'm just okay fine you guys are perfect human beings and that's it [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think that's what it is, is like you showed all that.

19:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So what is it? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't understand, Diane Philippe Mary, there's only so much you can get into, but we kind of have to address what that feeling was like, because one thing we never got was like, even when she saw um, yes, it was like, ooh, he's high. [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't get anything like, you know, how was that?

19:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Was you just meant because in some way, when we talk about their friendship, it kind of plays [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Philip says like they ask on how their friendships are at the sun to status. [SPEAKER_01]: Philip says he and Yasik are friends, they hang out, they talk, not as much lately, but you know, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're hanging out, you need to say it's like her friendship with Darya did not survive.

19:48 [SPEAKER_01]: She is rooting for her, they all say that or not, but it was hard to watch because allegedly, that is the relationship that she misses the most, like, [SPEAKER_01]: You leave the size that today she doesn't know what happened and she pulls away when she feels like she's not wanted And she gives up and that's what happened and Darya is like yeah, okay My point of view is that I'm very open with my emotions.

20:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I just say what I mean and in this case I just couldn't fully get through I can explain myself and then through distance grew and also I'm in a different place in my life like I just want to focus on my man like that's it [SPEAKER_01]: And I want you to speak her truth, but I know I have eyes, and maybe what the edit showed me, it's interesting.

20:39 [SPEAKER_01]: We clearly saw her pull back in Greece. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what do you see? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she showed up, and I feel like I didn't know this person. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, you act like who is that over there? [SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, of course she's like, well, never mind, and then fuck this friendship, I guess.

20:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're not the only one who gets to pull back when you feel you're not wanted, because you are kind of cool to her, Darya was one who actually even had the conversation to say what's going on and you're just like, oh, I have to adjust. [SPEAKER_01]: So whatever else that she said at the point, so to be like, oh, I don't know what happened.

21:10 [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what happened is you did it. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what happened here exactly what you forgot. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you created the environment and that was it. [SPEAKER_01]: And I really wish again that they had shown Daria kind of not overcompensating, but at the meet-up the first time at the pool party when they all met each other, which was giving Philip 1000 and one kiss in his and say, oh, it was great, but you were like, I'm not sure it's not the kind of guy with David or like, what was that about what were you going through yourself?

21:39 [SPEAKER_00]: He's medium ugly, I don't know what to do about that. [SPEAKER_01]: He has kind eyes though. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, right. [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't assess that. [SPEAKER_01]: She disagrees with Darya. [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't think that she was that close off. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: And she did a lot from the experiment.

21:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, did she watch herself like, am I tripping? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is happening? [SPEAKER_00]: She was unchanged. [SPEAKER_00]: She started to finish. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not sure what happened exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Joshua says, I hope that clear things up a bit. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, clear things up.

22:08 [SPEAKER_01]: They have questions you asked. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't care. [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, I'm good. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm more confused than ever. [SPEAKER_01]: So that was it for Dary and Philip section. [SPEAKER_01]: Was there anything that stood out to you on that? [SPEAKER_01]: Or, is that it?

22:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_00]: That's about it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's about it from you on that one. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: OK, we'll take a quick break and we'll come back with, yes, I can you lead a. OK, yes, I can you lead a. [SPEAKER_01]: I really like them, but I don't know.

22:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't tell who's telling the truth. [SPEAKER_01]: Who's not? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I just, everyone seems like you believe their truth, but somewhere in the middle is the truth that we don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: At least I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't tell. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like this is like a standard breakup when there's not infidelity or like lying or violence or what's like, yeah, we just stop seeing each other.

22:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And like we each have our own narrative for why that is. [SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to agree exactly on what happened, but like we didn't work out. [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think we didn't work up because of this. [SPEAKER_00]: You think we didn't work up because of that. [SPEAKER_00]: This is how most breakups go if there's not like something traumatic that happens.

23:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: They start immediately with the a woo and talking about how we went viral in Poland. [SPEAKER_01]: They create a montage of it and he said it a lot and the whole country is like, okay, half of Poland is wondering where the heck did that come from and I'm like, wow.

23:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy to get our questions answered here because we all should have done that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, yes, it says it's shown as mine, but it was ours. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure the men are like, no, you claim it. [SPEAKER_01]: No, put me in this. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want it. [SPEAKER_01]: And he said he said half of the men's quarters were saying it, but it shows as he is because sometimes he doesn't know how to ex how he can express himself.

23:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess I was the best way like a caveman. [SPEAKER_01]: I guess so I [SPEAKER_01]: they ask you lead out how she felt about it and she says like I was amused by it and they're like do you miss it she's like yeah I do not I do not miss it I don't do haven't talked since the wedding and this is the first time that they're seeing each other you know what I guess in my mind right but it makes sense if they don't all live in the same city there's no way to you know come across each other because I'm thinking of love is blind here we're you're in the same city sometimes you go back [SPEAKER_01]: I was just wondering, I just imagined that pulling this smaller, smaller, and then like they would, you know, run into each other, but then I'm like, oh wait, they don't want to live in the same city.

24:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So that makes sense. [SPEAKER_00]: No, no. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't see each other. [SPEAKER_01]: So you just said she said no, because she was feeling alone, feeling lonely, misunderstood, and unappreciated. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just, this is a song that I was just hearing on my head.

24:54 [SPEAKER_01]: feeling on the pre-heal appreciate and she said she felt like he was finding faults in her and that she's so puzzled by him saying like he missed her conversations and every time she tries to have a conversation she would get strange looks from him and she just didn't even want to try. [SPEAKER_01]: And Yesic is like, objection my Lord, like, no, I disagree, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

25:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He says, yes, she tried to as the end, but by the end, it was too late and it wasn't what he was looking for. [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: At this point though, this is two people saying the same thing about Yulita. [SPEAKER_01]: One woman took one platonic and it's like, at this day, I said, should we be looking at the common denominator, but maybe, that's a lie.

26:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Seems like maybe, it seems like, to think you might be the problem. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he says like he felt like he was doing the same thing and telling him like, you know, he talked too much and that he's weird and she's like, I never said that. [SPEAKER_01]: I never said it was which whispered that and Julia consoles her and I'm like, apparently, Julia and Yulita at best friends now.

26:26 [SPEAKER_01]: They're holding each other's pants and consoling each other. [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, like, listen, I shared in the pods that I have ADHD and the only thing I said was that talking a lot comes with that and all he wanted was acceptance. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's just like, maybe I shouldn't say this now, but I will.

26:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But anytime he did something wrong or crossed a boundary, a moment later he would be like, it's your fault. [SPEAKER_01]: He'll kind of blame me for provoking him. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I have to hear he has ADHD. [SPEAKER_01]: And because he has ADHD, I'm supposed to accept everything.

27:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, uh, what? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to take this because my first thing was like, she said every time he crossed a boundary, how many times he crossed a boundary, there was more than once. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't understand a lot of this. [SPEAKER_00]: I did get a kick out of understanding that in Polish ADHD is Adahada.

27:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I like that. [SPEAKER_00]: I picked up on that. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just like, there's, I could see this going two different ways because I know how my ADHD affects me and my relationship and there are a lot of times when it's like, yeah, no, I know that's really irritating, but like that's a standard ADHD treat.

27:37 [SPEAKER_00]: On the other hand, I don't like pick a fight or say something out of line and then go up ADHD again, man, what you're going to do about it's, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, he's also countering that and saying that he didn't say that. [SPEAKER_01]: He just said he had ADHD once and then when he talks a lot, but he did not use that as an excuse all the time, but I'm sure there's some truth in both of them and what they're saying, but like he said, you break up everything colors the way that you view things.

28:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And she probably just got annoyed because knowing yes, he doesn't do things in. [SPEAKER_01]: minimum amount of times. [SPEAKER_01]: I can hear him just, you know, my ADHD. [SPEAKER_01]: I keep telling you, my ADHD, and she's hearing it as, okay, so how am I supposed to respond to that?

28:24 [SPEAKER_01]: If you say that all the time, you know? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So she says that she accepted him and that she understands ADHD because she's, let me take a breath. [SPEAKER_01]: Neurology penis, I don't think I've ever heard that. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a typo. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, look, you're a neurologist.

28:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what a neurologist is. [SPEAKER_00]: I have the same thing. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, I stumbled over reading it, because I'm like, that's not a word. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I'm like, OK, again, maybe lost in translation, but I'm just going to go with it, because then I don't know what this woman does.

28:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to give her her credit, because she goes to a school, right? [SPEAKER_00]: This is very funny, but I like a child neurologist because he could be, I don't, I don't very want to give me, I did a Google, I don't know why. [SPEAKER_01]: You just don't Google it. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to just try to use.

29:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm just like, I don't know what a, what that word is. [SPEAKER_00]: I know what parts of it mean, and I can understand that it's something to do with a brain, but I don't know what you do. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, I've worked with a lot of children that have different conditions and everything else.

29:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know what she does. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so it is a word. [SPEAKER_01]: according to the law, which is a neurologic or a neurological speech language pathologist. [SPEAKER_01]: And they specialize in diagnosing and treating speech language, cognitive communication, and swallowing disorders caused by neurological conditions.

29:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's some reality TV, guys. [SPEAKER_00]: Right, that is it. [SPEAKER_00]: I did not lose the thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't know there, but I'm glad I pronounced it right. [SPEAKER_01]: I think. [SPEAKER_01]: But um, so when she says that he's like, that's absurd.

30:05 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, let me finish. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't think he cut you off, but okay, yes, please finish. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I just tired of it because it felt like she was at fault all the time. [SPEAKER_01]: And she was wondering what was wrong with her. [SPEAKER_01]: He says like, it's unfair.

30:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And his ADHD's information, not an excuse. [SPEAKER_01]: And the only thing he linked to it was talking a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm waiting for them to plead the footage where she actually did say, this man talks too much, I can't take it anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: I am going to bed. [SPEAKER_01]: But they did not.

30:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was the American version we would get that. [SPEAKER_00]: And then a live musical number after that. [SPEAKER_01]: Julia and whispered to her, don't take the beat. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, he's beating her. [SPEAKER_01]: So he says, I think you're lying, and it's unfair again.

30:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And she says, you have the right to think what you think. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not commenting further. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, you're in a reality show. [SPEAKER_01]: Comment away. [SPEAKER_00]: Please, keep talking. [SPEAKER_00]: This is not Meredith Marx. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm disengaging.

31:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's it. [SPEAKER_01]: Between them where it was just like a little [SPEAKER_01]: desire to get to know the person because on one end, even though I don't like it, it is the package she came in where it takes her a while to warm up. [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have the patience to do that because maybe, you know, if he provided a safe space, she would have warmed up and then he did we in the better place and she was contrary to what she says that she understood the ADHD, it seemed like she was a little impatient about it and just didn't like, you know, some of the things [SPEAKER_01]: without even though he's saying it's not the ADHD, it's just him.

31:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So the ADHD out of it, she just didn't like some of the things that he had, you know? [SPEAKER_00]: Like that. [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't listen to that. [SPEAKER_01]: We don't listen to that. [SPEAKER_01]: So the host asked if they thought about ending it. [SPEAKER_01]: No, if yes, I thought about ending it earlier, like say in Warsaw, he says it was difficult, but he wanted to give it a chance to the very end, but many times he knew that it wasn't it, like she just wasn't his person.

32:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So, may ask her, when did you make your decision to say no? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking, right before I walked down the aisle and she says, you know, when we pretended to be in the pots again and we were talking through the door, I'm like, I mean, that's valid because I can't look at that.

32:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you have to do that to communicate, that's a problem. [SPEAKER_00]: I also hate, why were you smiling so big then? [SPEAKER_00]: You seemed really excited about doing this. [SPEAKER_00]: You seemed happy that you guys did it. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get this too. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we can rely on both of them to be reliable narrators.

32:45 [SPEAKER_01]: They're very consumed in there being right and the other is wrong that I don't know because also this is also a waste. [SPEAKER_01]: If you knew back then, he and him and was a grease or whatever or when they did the door thing, [SPEAKER_01]: You were wasting our time the entire time. [SPEAKER_01]: You were smiling with each other.

33:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You were meeting your son. [SPEAKER_01]: You were doing all that, but you knew. [SPEAKER_01]: So what was the point? [SPEAKER_01]: And also I don't move their line now just to be the one that I knew first. [SPEAKER_01]: I knew earlier in Greece. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I knew way back then, but both of you were going to say no.

33:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, what are we doing? [SPEAKER_01]: You know? [SPEAKER_00]: I was a forever post. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mention you. [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, you mentioned hello. [SPEAKER_00]: The first quarter heard in the pot, I'm like, no, not this one, but I'm gonna do it anyway. [SPEAKER_01]: You did not have me at all, so um, she knew that there were too many differences and she wanted to end it, but she was like, oh, you never know, things could be better.

33:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me give it a chance. [SPEAKER_01]: they ask her what she's saying, having doubts, she said she's saying, having doubts in Greece from that one fight. [SPEAKER_01]: So basically, it can't go in further and further and further back. [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, you know, because we saw their final date, right?

33:58 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw how, you know, they were there, you know, I'm being to like you, you know, that stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Then she says it was when they had the pod pretence play. [SPEAKER_01]: role playing whatever, then now he was in gring this when they had the fight and she was like because she would never let a man talk to her that way.

34:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Guys remember, we still don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: What has happened? [SPEAKER_01]: They are refusing to tell us, so how are we supposed to follow the story? [SPEAKER_01]: Andrea asked like, okay, can you tell us what he said? [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, he doesn't know this yes, he doesn't know if he wants to talk about it since it was off-camera.

34:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Brian, I'm losing my shit at this point. [SPEAKER_00]: I got so mad. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, would you fucking spit it out? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I won't know what happened. [SPEAKER_00]: Enough of this bullshit. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he says, I'm not proud of it, but it wasn't directed at Yulita.

34:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And then J. says, well, you mean to clear it up? [SPEAKER_01]: Because the more we don't know, this is the way to clear your name and you just say it and I'm like, okay, we're getting there. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think it was about to say it. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like, yeah, I'd rather not.

35:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the chapter is closed and we don't want this and I'm like, oh my God. [SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't you just edit this out? [SPEAKER_01]: Where are they doing to us? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is so frustrating, especially as a noticeable US viewer. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just, I shouldn't even say that because other places they talk.

35:17 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just US. [SPEAKER_01]: So, [SPEAKER_00]: No, I literally threw my hands in the air. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, you was getting ready to say it, man. [SPEAKER_00]: And then they'd be like, no, no, no, don't say, I'm like, oh my God, enough with this. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's all the back and forth before they said it.

35:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, sparrows and edit that out. [SPEAKER_01]: Because then he was like, well, I was going to say it, but he should doesn't want me to, then I'm not going to say it. [SPEAKER_01]: That's just like, oh, you can say it if you want to, about listening to you. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure how much is going to be true.

35:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, it's spare me this misery. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, it's worth it to say, if you think that I don't tell the truth that I'm not going to waste my time saying, because I'm like, can you move on? [SPEAKER_01]: At this point, I don't even want it. [SPEAKER_01]: Because this is crazy.

36:01 [SPEAKER_01]: So when she says that Philip was supposed to die, and I was like, oh, he shit, the way they she talks. [SPEAKER_01]: And so, and Darius likes stuff it. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I felt a fire. [SPEAKER_00]: I should not shut up. [SPEAKER_00]: Lay low. [SPEAKER_01]: The Hallelujah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I've decided to tell us what it is, and what happens is they were sitting at brunch.

36:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Him, her, and the other girl. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_00]: Why was there another girl sitting there?

36:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you doing this girl an air cuff as a gift in front of you? [SPEAKER_01]: You need to, like you just didn't feel complete. [SPEAKER_01]: Then he's asking her, did you put this on correctly? [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't put it on correctly, it would be painful. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to do it.

36:55 [SPEAKER_01]: She goes, no, it's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: She goes, no, I've been there. [SPEAKER_01]: It's painful. [SPEAKER_01]: And like, this conversation is happening. [SPEAKER_01]: Will you leave it there? [SPEAKER_00]: Who is this other person? [SPEAKER_00]: I need, you know, how did she get there?

37:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Like how do we arrive at this point? [SPEAKER_00]: They never talk about it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they don't. [SPEAKER_01]: So we don't have context because I think it is important to know who this other girl is and why he felt the need to give her an air cuff in front of his fiance and then go through the process of putting it correctly being very gentle so it doesn't hurt her.

37:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, are you the one who knows how to put on an air cuff? [SPEAKER_01]: This is kind of weird, but when he was done talking, you need to lean over, squeezing his earcloth. [SPEAKER_01]: The one he said is very painful. [SPEAKER_01]: And just like, what did you do that for? [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I'm sorry.

37:48 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going right out, bitch. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: And then she's like, that's wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not all you said. [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, OK, I said, what a fuck did you do that? [SPEAKER_01]: And then she goes, that's not all.

38:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, okay, that was all we got. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I wanted to talk about it at home, but she brushed him off. [SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't aimed at her. [SPEAKER_01]: It was just like instinctive. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, someone did a thing, like, pinch it. [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, bitch, it's still wrong.

38:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Is she not called her a name? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: But also, why are you grabbing his pain for your cuff? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, why? [SPEAKER_01]: Never asked her why she did that. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the other thing because you aren't inflicting some kind of pain on your partner's.

38:32 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not okay, too, which is why I'm like, who's the other girl? [SPEAKER_01]: What was it anger? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you mad at him? [SPEAKER_01]: Why did you pinch his ear cuff? [SPEAKER_01]: Did that question come? [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, if it was like, well, I was sick and tired of him like giving attention and flutters other woman and I'm like, hey, man, I'm right here.

38:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I used to shouldn't hurt your partner. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Lisa's a reason for it. [SPEAKER_00]: The way that they present me was like, yes, she has grabbed onto it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, I'm very confused. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, is it a producer? [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think you might have been a producer?

39:08 [SPEAKER_00]: If it's not a producer, was it somebody that was working at the resort? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, who? [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you have an extra ear cuff line around? [SPEAKER_00]: Is the other question? [SPEAKER_00]: because like, when I, my years are fierce, I don't wear earrings anymore, but when I did it and carry like spares around just in case.

39:23 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's the theme. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a piercing. [SPEAKER_01]: He wears an air cup. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the one. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Did he talk about his ear to give it to the girl? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, because they didn't tell us, because we didn't get that part of this at all.

39:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So that was it. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, listen, regardless of who it was, I take responsibility. [SPEAKER_01]: I should never have said that. [SPEAKER_01]: It was not a nice thing to say. [SPEAKER_01]: And you lead us says, I don't know if you also have a vision disorder.

39:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a key to say, right? [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so. [SPEAKER_01]: Calling is ADHD, saying you didn't do rock-a-tory way, like, and this year, the sort is that you have, because clearly you can't see, but also what did that have to do with the situation?

40:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's vengeance coming to you. [SPEAKER_01]: So, what am I missing? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, and they left out so many the important parts of this argument. [SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what really went down.

40:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so annoying. [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, she says he skipped a few steps. [SPEAKER_01]: She's sick of this and it's done. [SPEAKER_01]: And then that was it. [SPEAKER_01]: There was awkward silence. [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone was silent. [SPEAKER_01]: And I noticed also in this reading, and maybe later they did, but not a lot like the other ones.

40:46 [SPEAKER_01]: People don't jump in. [SPEAKER_01]: If it's not my segment, not my segment. [SPEAKER_01]: Filmen, Dary, I don't even think we heard from them again, unless they asked them a question, that was it. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, [SPEAKER_01]: I'm wondering if someone was gonna be like, oh, but I remember that day, you said, oh, that happened?

41:01 [SPEAKER_01]: No, everyone's just silent and I'm like, awkward. [SPEAKER_00]: We got it right at the end and no other times. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so she says like, you know, there were some good moments and I just want to remember it that way, but they see the world differently. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, they asked if she loved him.

41:19 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, yeah, I loved him a tiny bit. [SPEAKER_01]: I told him a little bit that I loved him. [SPEAKER_01]: And she loved how he talked about her son. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it says he had hoped for love, but there were just so many differences in arguments. [SPEAKER_01]: And then they show unseen footage and it's them making half sour pickles.

41:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for a long time and making them wrong, calling her mom and do we cut off the end. [SPEAKER_00]: So I put it in hot water. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I've never even heard what a half sour pickle is. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have the necessary context for this. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a long, a long segment.

42:01 [SPEAKER_01]: No, because they didn't teach you that and they tickled their fancy in the hostesses and hosts. [SPEAKER_01]: So we never made it. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we prefer it. [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't half or four. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember what it was, but I didn't have to. [SPEAKER_00]: There was a deal.

42:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we don't have context for that, but it just seemed like it was a Polish tradition that everyone does. [SPEAKER_01]: And it seemed to be a segment that, you know, they enjoyed it. [SPEAKER_01]: They appreciated what it is because they have the context for that. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Brian, walk at me in this.

42:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I never noticed this during the season, but Mr. Yasik, they're a man high in the professionals. [SPEAKER_01]: Is it just, oh yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: You're not alone in that. [SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, he keeps his eyes open. [SPEAKER_01]: And more on me to comment about that.

42:51 [SPEAKER_01]: He was just like waving his head from side to side and it was like, you know, when we do this, I was trying to see if she had a sticker for her ass. [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't. [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be right. [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, hey, man, listen. [SPEAKER_00]: Pickles with life.

43:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, whoa, whoa, whoa. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I just never noticed it through the season. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think we would have talked about it if we did, but it was very, very clear in this particular confessional that they chose to show it up.

43:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so then they ask a Julia how she's doing is she single this question. [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to ask everybody at the end and she's like, yeah, you know, she was heartbroken the first few days and then, but she got support from I guess the rest of the pot squad and she went to the sunrise festival and that's where she met her husband.

43:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Then she goes, oh, fiance, they should raise up her hand and then there's a ring and they're like, [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, is she serious and like, oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: She is. [SPEAKER_01]: So she is engaged. [SPEAKER_01]: Guys, you know, whatever we have things like this and they ask a single or you're not.

43:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And as you say, I'm not single or I don't want to say, sometimes I don't believe them. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they just don't want to say that they're still single. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just like. [SPEAKER_01]: But I guess it's true. [SPEAKER_01]: There's a ring on there. [SPEAKER_01]: So I did Google, what is the sunrise festival?

44:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It is one of Central and Eastern Europe's largest and most iconic electric dance music EDM event. [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you, brother. [SPEAKER_01]: Man. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: could tell I take such, but yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because I was hoping this was like an old timey we kept this pagan tradition.

44:30 [SPEAKER_00]: But the sunrise and the sources of some shit, I'm like, I didn't know it was like, you know, well, that's a lot of those. [SPEAKER_00]: Although for Europe, there's not may poles and all those things are all like old timey pagan traditions, they just kept around. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, you know, I was thinking maybe it would.

44:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And Poland has it, um, Schmiekes thingus, the watering day. [SPEAKER_00]: Like Poland has the whole purpose of these things. [SPEAKER_01]: I do not pay her as one of those. [SPEAKER_01]: So my mind didn't go to that. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I wasn't I didn't pay her as an EDM fan either, but here we are.

44:59 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, his name is Conrad. [SPEAKER_01]: My Conrad, it's Conrad with a K. She got engaged in Lake Komo in Lee and he knew that she liked it. [SPEAKER_01]: And then she does what Darya did at their first meetup. [SPEAKER_01]: She lays it on thick. [SPEAKER_01]: Her son loves him.

45:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He's the kind of man she prayed for. [SPEAKER_01]: Her whole family loves him. [SPEAKER_01]: It's impossible not to love him. [SPEAKER_01]: And correct me if I'm wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like everyone was making faces and it was hilarious. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what is just like, you're all like, all right.

45:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. [SPEAKER_01]: Cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: What the glass. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I guess it's not single. [SPEAKER_01]: He said it's pretty new, but he's happy and, you know, that's it. [SPEAKER_01]: They do their final words.

45:45 [SPEAKER_01]: She says she wishes him happiness. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he wishes her the same. [SPEAKER_01]: And I wanted to know, why doesn't you so much as to be married? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is explain not? [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I want to know. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know, we didn't even talk about it at all.

45:58 [SPEAKER_00]: He's also, he's old enough that if they wanted to have him come on and talk for like five minutes, they could do that and it didn't do that either. [SPEAKER_01]: But that's okay. [SPEAKER_01]: We gave them props for that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like don't all the extras side bits and gigs instead of that's okay, but it's just from your point of view.

46:13 [SPEAKER_01]: What is the thing that he doesn't want you to get married? [SPEAKER_01]: How does he feel now? [SPEAKER_01]: Because you've introduced him to two fiancees in less than a year. [SPEAKER_01]: How does he feel it? [SPEAKER_01]: Because he doesn't want you to, you know, to get married. [SPEAKER_01]: But in a way, it's just a different side of you, you need to and yes, it's like, you know, scorned exes.

46:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we don't know what is the truth or what is not, but they'll be a better effort part. [SPEAKER_01]: They're just not for sure. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'll take a break and I'll be back with Julia and Camille. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so Julia says she stress this is the first time that they're seeing each other since the wedding and it was nice to watch the good times and the hard times he says like what was hard for him was it was hard to watch how much little support she got from our family and the situation at the end we thought was unnecessary but that the rumor cost him a lot.

47:14 [SPEAKER_01]: They're asking you like, oh, did you have any feelings when you watched it back? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, huh, it's been a year, what? [SPEAKER_01]: They'll say, no, no feelings came back, you know. [SPEAKER_00]: Nope. [SPEAKER_01]: Camille says he believed in the experiment and he fully expected to say I do, but certain things happened and he just couldn't say I do.

47:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So he was going to say, no, at the point. [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't have a punch. [SPEAKER_01]: He says the difference between how he was with the guys versus with her that was valid Because I mean we talked about it like okay, yes, that is valid but it has to be a reason for it He just said he felt very accepted with the guys but not with Julia that she often called him out and he made him you know shut down [SPEAKER_01]: She said, you know, she's sorry that he didn't feel accepted, but that's how she felt too.

48:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, she knows that she's too emotional, but she and Camille were too different. [SPEAKER_01]: They asked her if her mom's opinion influenced her final decision. [SPEAKER_01]: At this point, Lika and Yulita are holding her hands. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a three. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're like, and I'm like, okay, that's the relationship with Darya and the girls like I know she has to sit with Philip right because they're married Remember Darya and Julia were cool.

48:31 [SPEAKER_01]: She was giving Julia all this good advice and you know she didn't chime in because I mean there's no chiming in here, but it's just I couldn't get a gauge and I wish [SPEAKER_01]: the host had asked because it's like doing the course of the the experiment you were getting good advice you were talking to Daria and seeing like Daria has a success from marriage okay maybe you don't say that part but like you have a status.

48:57 [SPEAKER_01]: What is the status of your relationship right now? [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like when you found out that information Well, I guess you couldn't call Tara because Tara is getting married to no one's trying to be burdened with that In relation to date before and honestly, she did up her mind.

49:10 [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't want to talk to anybody. [SPEAKER_01]: She probably called her mom to reinforce everything [SPEAKER_01]: Um, for her, is that something I wish I knew was like, what is her, um, friendship status with Daria, and just a girls in general, what is their relationship? [SPEAKER_01]: Because it didn't seem like Daria was part of that group, but I didn't know if we had already.

49:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So Julia says that, her family can give advice and they worry and they care about her, but in the end, she makes a decision. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, that's what you think. [SPEAKER_01]: They're okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. [SPEAKER_00]: There's stuff that. [SPEAKER_01]: For them growing, the planting seeds in your mind that you don't even know is working.

49:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, they asked him how he felt about her family and he said like, it was just strange that he was hoping to be welcomed and he just saw a lack of support, you know, for her and from when he showed up and she's like, I don't know what you saw, they supported me and it may seem like they were not welcoming, but her mom's priority was her well being and she would call her mom when they argue and she'll be crying and I'm like, what do you mean it seemed like they were not welcoming, they were not, you didn't seem like it.

50:25 [SPEAKER_00]: They were not and your mom then one up during your wedding dress drying on. [SPEAKER_00]: So like, let's not act like there was all this endless well of support from your family. [SPEAKER_00]: We're in C on TV. [SPEAKER_00]: Like you got pissed off at her at the dress fitting. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and then even though you're wedding day, you were crying, you know, I'm slammed the door and said, I don't like him, don't do it, bye.

50:43 [SPEAKER_00]: So, support. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to be defined support here. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, yeah, how much priority was her well-being, but her well-being is like welcoming the fiancee of the man that she thinks she wants to marry. [SPEAKER_01]: So, mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_01]: She says, she can't insisting.

50:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Every time she says, like, you know what I thought, like, my mom is my best friend. [SPEAKER_01]: So I will call her and our argue. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, well, I have a right to call my mom, just the same way he calls his friends. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, no one said you don't have a right.

51:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think people forget. [SPEAKER_01]: If you know you're gonna forgive someone for something, don't tell your friends and family or whoever is very close to you. [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna move on and they're not gonna forget. [SPEAKER_00]: So, they can't, and they have no emotional ties to this man, so why would they forget?

51:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, this is a bad thing, and, you know, this, this tarnishes you forever on land. [SPEAKER_01]: So she says like so because she cried and you know to her mom about their arguments that her mom was cold to him out of fear for her. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, there's a strong word, fear, but okay.

51:46 [SPEAKER_01]: They asked her how she got her source that told her the information and she's like, yeah, we talked on the phone and I'm so glad that they stopped her and they're like, who called who? [SPEAKER_01]: did you call her or did she call you and Julia has the audacity to say I don't remember who reached out to remember because it was a long time.

52:11 [SPEAKER_00]: No, this is it okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I could see if you guys had a pre-existing relationship in friendship and then on that instance, I don't remember who called who. [SPEAKER_00]: This is a first introductory part. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like we always talk about on Mass Virgin. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like that song, Mr. Brightside.

52:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not the fact that you cheated. [SPEAKER_00]: It's all the other steps that led up to that that we have to hear about in the song. [SPEAKER_00]: You had to figure who this person was. [SPEAKER_00]: Find their contact information. [SPEAKER_00]: Get on the phone. [SPEAKER_00]: Call them.

52:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Wait for it to answer. [SPEAKER_00]: All these things. [SPEAKER_00]: Or they call you out of the blue. [SPEAKER_00]: Those are very different experiences. [SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's alive, because for one, right? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying they're not ways for news to get out, but remember, they were filming, they were not out.

52:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like it's public information at that point. [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it's like he said she said this person, and this is the person, and DM, and all of the, I just, you gotta remember, and if anything, and you reach out through DM, did you delete it? [SPEAKER_01]: Check your DMs, who's out to you first?

53:09 [SPEAKER_01]: It's right there, and I don't believe it. [SPEAKER_00]: That's also fishy. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you forget something like this. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you don't know these people. [SPEAKER_01]: So how would you get their number? [SPEAKER_01]: But that person might know that, oh, this person is filming.

53:24 [SPEAKER_01]: You're a quote on quote, public figure. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we get leaks all the time. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this person is being cast on the show. [SPEAKER_01]: I think like the Minnesota Love is Blind. [SPEAKER_01]: The people came out and people knew each other and they're like, oh, this is the person.

53:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, whoever it was. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just think it's not a thing. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you forget, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like five years. [SPEAKER_00]: I know this is not a perfect comparison, but I met my wife 12 years ago on match. [SPEAKER_00]: I know who reached out first and what our first messaging change was, like who said what first and then what the rebuttal was.

53:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I recall that from 13 years ago. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so like don't tell me, you don't remember what happened a year ago in this significant moment in your marriage. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, she refused us to mention who it is because the person asked her not to mention it because she's afraid of what may happen when Camille finds out Camille is like, wait, wait.

54:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Am I the mafia? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm afraid. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right. [SPEAKER_01]: What happened? [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I'm not saying. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's like, I'm not saying. [SPEAKER_01]: I believe something's going to happen. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they said. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just repeating what they said.

54:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think what? [SPEAKER_01]: Julia is missing. [SPEAKER_01]: I always say, I mean, I think the last time we were like, the way it can be responded, I don't know who selling the truth. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he cheated or not. [SPEAKER_01]: My focus is just on the way she handled it.

54:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, great, you know, that they separated, she feels better about her decision, that's great. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just, you can't marry someone that you don't trust. [SPEAKER_01]: Because your first instinct was not to talk to him about it. [SPEAKER_01]: Your first instinct was not to say it was a lie.

54:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Your first instinct was to believe this person. [SPEAKER_01]: And what she's missing is that either way you believe this person because it's what I think it's what you want to believe and this helps you continue that narrative and that's what it is and you know. [SPEAKER_01]: She's cheated on his partner in the past and I just don't accept that.

55:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Camille, whispers, this is slender and then she's tapping and Joshua stops her again and is like, no, why did you believe her? [SPEAKER_01]: This person you've never met before comes and tells you stuff and just tells you like this happened that happened and she's like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I just trusted her.

55:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, because I wanted to because I wanted to believe these bad things about him because that makes it a whole lot easier for me to into this and not feel bad. [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's that's the answer that she won't give but that is the answer [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's a little bit just trusted her because I didn't trust Camille.

55:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm there. [SPEAKER_01]: You have it. [SPEAKER_01]: You just and I can appreciate it. [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, just saying that and she said there were various situations that led to her lack of trust of him. [SPEAKER_01]: And in this woman, Daria wrote her eyes. [SPEAKER_01]: She could help herself.

56:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, this is a part of it. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I just saw you wrote your eyes. [SPEAKER_01]: What are you thinking? [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not going to be more to say what I had somewhere. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Camille says, okay, I don't think I really understood this part, but you let me know what your interpretation of this was.

56:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Then there were people close to him that he caught off because there were bad influence and he wanted to get his life together. [SPEAKER_01]: But then after the relationship, he entered another one and then it happened again. [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the second attempt to interfere with his life and he's not happy about that.

56:45 [SPEAKER_01]: What how did you interpret this? [SPEAKER_00]: So, the bad influence thing is a little bit amorphous, but for me, I'm like, are these people into drugs? [SPEAKER_00]: Are these people just like drinking and partying all the time? [SPEAKER_00]: What is it that makes them a bad influence on you?

56:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure, but it very much feels like when they find out I'm with someone, this circle of friends tries to sabotage that for me. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why that's kind of a pathetic thing to do after like high school. [SPEAKER_00]: But it seems like this has happened him before, if she would have come to him and said, hey, I heard this from this person, you go, okay, let me explain to you what this is about, because they keep on doing this to me.

57:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And like this is, I don't know why this is what they're doing, but they've done it before. [SPEAKER_00]: And like they want to make me, they want to ruin relationships for me for whatever reason. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why that's what he's alleging that they're doing. [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's a weird thing to do as a grown-up.

57:37 [SPEAKER_00]: But that was the way that I interpreted that. [SPEAKER_00]: Because if there's his group of people out there that he used to be friends with, that he's not anymore because their lifestyles have changed whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: And now because their salty that he left, they just want to fuck up his life.

57:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Even that is suspicious, like Camille telling the story. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, why are these people so inner? [SPEAKER_01]: They're not trying to fuck you up like financially or anything. [SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to just fuck up your romantic relationships. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't.

58:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: All these years later, that's weird. [SPEAKER_01]: Unless it's like they're in the same group of friends as the X and they're just like, that's my thing. [SPEAKER_01]: You're not gonna be happy. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you're not gonna be happy. [SPEAKER_01]: If you're not with our girl, we would always, but they have things to do.

58:22 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying. [SPEAKER_00]: Like once you're an adult, this is weird. [SPEAKER_00]: I could see it being a thing where it's like We are convinced that he cheated on her and she's still not over it and it's messed up her relationships ever since then She can't trust people and so like we need to let people know that he's out here in the streets, but like even that's kind of like Weird years later is insane [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he said everything was fine until the wedding and it broke him into a million pieces.

58:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, Camille, you were gonna say no, what are you talking about? [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: What is wrong with these people? [SPEAKER_00]: Because I was just saying shit, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: He said he was surprised. [SPEAKER_01]: He's not surprised that it happened, but he surprised that it came up on an important day.

59:05 [SPEAKER_01]: How do you know the other thing is, if you know you have these relationship, saboteurs following you around, you went on a show on TV, [SPEAKER_01]: You had to go, maybe he thought he was getting away with it this time. [SPEAKER_00]: It's either that or he thought if they're going to say something that's going to happen early on, and I'll combat it when it happens and we'll see how she handles it.

59:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Not as she's walking down the aisle, like a sky writer's going to fly over and leave a message for her shit, like I think he might have thought, I'm in the clear now, like we're in the last couple of days and they haven't popped up, maybe they're maybe they're past this, maybe they're not going to do with this time.

59:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: He was surprised he came up on an important day. [SPEAKER_01]: They asked her if she regretted having that conversation with this unknown and there's a long pause and that's your answer right there. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a no, she doesn't regret it.

59:56 [SPEAKER_01]: She says she's glad that she found out and I'm like, damn, can we just like found out what? [SPEAKER_01]: I keep telling you, it's not true. [SPEAKER_01]: I did not cheat. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a, we were on a break situation. [SPEAKER_01]: So you're never been our green on that. [SPEAKER_01]: And Joshua was like, oh, so you believe it.

1:00:13 [SPEAKER_01]: You believe him. [SPEAKER_01]: He cheated. [SPEAKER_01]: She says, uh, I regret that it happened that the wedding and Joshua says, Do you believe Camille? [SPEAKER_01]: She went, I'm like, yeah, go on, girl. [SPEAKER_01]: Get your, get your, get your old money. [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I have to do.

1:00:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Julia is like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: She sounded credible to me, and I believed her. [SPEAKER_01]: And also, it just wasn't her. [SPEAKER_01]: There were three people who confirmed it. [SPEAKER_01]: Camille is like, they are from the same circle. [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to say the same thing.

1:00:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Something's like, you know what? [SPEAKER_01]: I've said my bit, like, you know, she trust the strangers. [SPEAKER_01]: It is what it is. [SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, for Julia, like, why would strangers have you best interest a heart? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know either, or you want any loyalty.

1:01:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Woman to woman situation, but I would be suspicious if someone, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, and then we'll wait it until the wedding day. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if we have seen this storyline, we've seen this storyline so many times on housewives. [SPEAKER_00]: where it's like somebody anonymous he pops up with like some salacious bit of information.

1:01:26 [SPEAKER_00]: You you handle it one way or the other, but you don't just like blindly believe it and then not confront the person about it. [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's how this works. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the thing. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, I still think they both did each other a favor. [SPEAKER_01]: She just didn't want to say no.

1:01:40 [SPEAKER_01]: She need something big and she got it. [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know that Camille didn't cheat. [SPEAKER_01]: Like we obviously don't know because Camille also gives me vibes of. [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if we want to see Emma Good guy Emma Good guy, but I do have some darkness in there, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's a completely terrible guy.

1:01:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know either thing. [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like if I claim to love someone and I was, you know, on the path to marry them and news comes I will at least even if I'm going to say no have a conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: That's at a minimum. [SPEAKER_00]: Have a talk there.

1:02:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, have a talk and then that's it and be like, you know what, like, you know, I want to believe you, but I have doubts. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel confident, you know, going ahead with this. [SPEAKER_00]: But here we are. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, they bring up chocolate gate to ease the tension and like to ease the tension is chocolate gate [SPEAKER_01]: that that is not no kind of work but it shouldn't have and then ask who was the chocolate for and they said the chocolate was for Marta and it was to end things nicely.

1:02:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Julia says if she knew that it was a goodbye chocolate that she wouldn't have gotten so mad um she says she won't get mad do we guard this [SPEAKER_01]: She said she wasn't in love with him, um, I don't know if he wasn't. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember what he said. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he said he wasn't and they were like even when you proposed and do you get how about that bitch?

1:03:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't say the beach part and that's Brian's well, I said this is it was a mint it Yeah, it's a sensitive topic now that we know what Yasik said right sure what is accurate So um they asked their status and Julia is single and dating [SPEAKER_01]: and Camille is single.

1:03:28 [SPEAKER_01]: He said he tried to find love and it did not work. [SPEAKER_01]: They asked Julia what she has learned and she jokes like to talk less but says she wishes people could see all the footage because she was portrayed as insecure. [SPEAKER_01]: uh portrayed as hey yeah um she says because of the video um i think the reveal when she felt like he wasn't you know that enthusiastic because she also brings up the Marta and Damian thing again that she's been getting raised comments even though she is Polish she says that she was stressed whether he would like her or not because she knows that her looks can be divisive and she has had to deal with it her whole life [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not doubting the chance to, but when she's saying portrait isn't secure, but if she's at the level where it's like screwed with these people, I don't care what you think, like you're not gonna say you're looks can be divisive.

1:04:22 [SPEAKER_01]: You believe that you look good enough and then whoever is going to be with you is either you like me or not Like I don't know looks going to be divisive. [SPEAKER_01]: We all have different tastes We all have different things like everybody's looks are divisive. [SPEAKER_01]: Listen How are you catching it on be also catching it on somewhere?

1:04:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they look so great like everybody's looks are divisive. [SPEAKER_01]: So I know [SPEAKER_01]: I know what she's trying to say, but you can't say that you were portrayed as insecure when from what we saw, it is a thing that she does need to work on. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: She said she knew she would be everyone's cup of tea by coming on this show, but she was not expecting comments like, I'm not surprised your father left you and racist comments and get the fuck out of Poland, and I'm like, what is this?

1:05:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: You know. [SPEAKER_01]: I got it. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it reminds me a little bit. [SPEAKER_00]: My parents went on a cruise one time and one of those bike and river cruises in Europe. [SPEAKER_00]: And it was during the European soccer championship, like the tournament.

1:05:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And when they called me, they were like, Brian, we didn't realize that like every European hates every other kind of European. [SPEAKER_01]: They were like, they all have slurs for each other. [SPEAKER_00]: And they're all screaming each other during the games. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, yeah, I guess I didn't, I mean, we don't really have that here.

1:05:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like people from California who from Nevada. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're neighbors, I guess we don't, we talk shit of people from Wisconsin and stuff here, but that we don't hate them. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like actual anger. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I could see it just like it's surprising to me when I hear it because it's unexpected, but only because I don't, and there was big time in Europe.

1:05:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess I didn't know this was like a whole thing over there. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's funny that you mentioned that because I think I told you off air whatever when I was called a name when I was there and it was also drew like a soccer thing that was going on and everyone It was like like a sub popular square in crackle or something like that and everyone was just like so excited and stuff and I guess there wasn't a lot of black people so it was just me and the other thing that was with and someone just came into my maybe the excitement [SPEAKER_01]: Cameron from what they said, but I can pick up on what it was, but it was in regards to my skin tone.

1:06:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so, you know, it is unfortunate. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, like, you know, to have that. [SPEAKER_01]: But she says that, you know, they're also therapy is a process and not a quick cure. [SPEAKER_01]: And people saying that she should do that before finding love that is going to take a while.

1:06:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Does that mean she's not going to find love. [SPEAKER_01]: She's just going to wait until [SPEAKER_01]: she's killed, she first she finds love. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not funny, but I did kind of find it like, but I think like it goes back to say all these things because when she's saying like she was portrayed as insecure, there was a scene where she was just like, I just want to find love so badly and where can I have it?

1:07:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's just finding the balance between not accepting everything that comes to you because what we were seeing is like, [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my type is, if you like me, I like you back. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, you should be willing to serving in things like that. [SPEAKER_01]: And just kind of work on some certain things before that.

1:07:21 [SPEAKER_01]: No one's saying, like, you should be single, although because she's just like, guys, I'm going to date. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not willing for therapy to kill me before I, like, no, she also hasn't started therapy yet. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, I want to do it still. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, yeah, no one is saying that like wait until you are quote unquote done with therapy because I'm really done with therapy, but you can work, you can be with somebody while you're working through things and then use your therapy as a process to help your relationship be healthy and grow.

1:07:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is so she says that people should remember that they are good people and we only see a portion of the show. [SPEAKER_01]: Camille does tell her that you need to believe in yourself. [SPEAKER_01]: So again, this whole that she was portrayed as insecure, I think. [SPEAKER_01]: would be something was seen and she just needs to work and that and it wasn't a portrayal and it's just what they had.

1:08:11 [SPEAKER_01]: That she needs to believe in herself that she's a beautiful woman with a beautiful soul and people that write these things they're saying that because they don't know her. [SPEAKER_01]: He says he can vouch for her and I I'm just wondering why he wants to vouch for her when she doesn't trust him and she believes it's strange over him so I don't.

1:08:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Right no it doesn't make sense to me [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they all tear up the hostess is tearing up, you lead to tearing up, Camille tear up a little Jewish tearing up and Joshua reminds everyone that they are real people and they should try not to hurt people who left a piece of their heart there on this show.

1:08:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's my question. [SPEAKER_01]: If Julia did not mention the racist comments that she was getting, was the sure going to address the fact that, hey, these are real people. [SPEAKER_01]: Try not to be racist. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't do that. [SPEAKER_01]: We don't condone that. [SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

1:09:08 [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_00]: Just straight up no. [SPEAKER_00]: That would not have come up. [SPEAKER_01]: Because [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we need to know we don't follow Polish news. [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what the chatter is there, but if it's that bad, I mean, the least they could do is just have a quick PSA and be like, guys, as Polish as they come, it's because somebody physically looks different doesn't mean you have the right to go on there.

1:09:34 [SPEAKER_01]: That is so awful to say, I see why you're that left you. [SPEAKER_01]: Look what the fuck is wrong with people. [SPEAKER_00]: Right now, all you have to say is listen man, Julia is as Polish as half-sour pickles leave her alone and he just didn't do that. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't, yeah, I don't, it's all, it's all very messy.

1:09:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they basically wish each other well and that was it for them. [SPEAKER_01]: And then they saved Malika and Christoph for last. [SPEAKER_01]: When you can search, they play like they're montage. [SPEAKER_01]: And then Relieca says she feels fine, time is passed. [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to watch those moments when it is.

1:10:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And then they play it previously on aired clip. [SPEAKER_01]: This might be the closest to, okay, I can see why this is a previously on aired clip. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a conversation that they had after they broke up just before the engagement party. [SPEAKER_01]: He's saying, is there any is talking?

1:10:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, he doesn't understand her. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, maybe my Polish isn't good enough. [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, maybe I'm too stupid for you. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not, she uses, it was kind of funny. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, what? [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, you said it many times.

1:10:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man, do it for you. [SPEAKER_01]: And then he's talking, and he's like, yeah, your PR is great. [SPEAKER_01]: You're the best. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, what? [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, could host to you. [SPEAKER_01]: Well done. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, wow, this is very passive aggressive.

1:10:50 [SPEAKER_00]: This is crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: It's so passive aggressive, all of it. [SPEAKER_01]: So he answered the conversation and I was like, yeah, I don't want to hear it anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: We're done. [SPEAKER_01]: He was just cold-blooded. [SPEAKER_01]: Very cold-blooded. [SPEAKER_01]: So they come back and she says, yeah, it was hard, especially because all of Poland saw it.

1:11:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you remember, Malika cares what people think. [SPEAKER_01]: When they were going for their first meet-up, she made him change ten times saying, you got to present, we got to present, she said, everything is great, everything is fine. [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't change in the same shirt he already had on.

1:11:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, um, she said like, you know, they decided to give it a go because at that time, she did not know the extent of the cheating. [SPEAKER_01]: He says he was disappointed in Greece where it started from because, you know, he just felt like they were the worst couple.

1:11:36 [SPEAKER_01]: They had it the worst and they were better off camera. [SPEAKER_01]: She says, oh, I received a lot of hate and she and Julia are doing hate Olympics like, oh, not more than you are you sure you could be more we could be me, but she thinks she got the most hate she says the cameras made her uncomfortable because she's an introvert and she's a close off person.

1:11:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you on the show? [SPEAKER_01]: But it also made him uncomfortable. [SPEAKER_01]: It just wasn't her, but it made both of them uncomfortable. [SPEAKER_01]: But of camera, they had deep conversations, they agreed on things, and they were in the same page on things. [SPEAKER_01]: He said he thought that he was going to leave after brunch with Camille.

1:12:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even realize that was brunch. [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't order no food. [SPEAKER_01]: He just told her that I made a big kinger, and that was it. [SPEAKER_01]: and he regrets not leaving after because he's been trusting his guts and the first was not choosing Kinga, which they sometimes call her, Kanga, the pronunciation.

1:12:33 [SPEAKER_00]: They call, um, Kinga and also Kingi, I heard. [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of heard a lot of different words. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he is what they say. [SPEAKER_01]: But it goes in and out. [SPEAKER_01]: Some people do say Kinga, and then sometimes they say Kingi. [SPEAKER_01]: So he said, he had the choice.

1:12:47 [SPEAKER_01]: So he arranged like a bathtub, date from Malika, they had sunrise, and then they came back. [SPEAKER_01]: And Julia is like, oh, that's so nice. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, OK. [SPEAKER_00]: wait for what happens next to him. [SPEAKER_01]: And so he knew that something was off because they kept talking about the show instead of their feelings and that killed the romance for him.

1:13:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I disagree. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, huh? [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, you're like, I just fucking heard that you disagree. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you found Greece great? [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, yes, I don't that doesn't make any sense. [SPEAKER_01]: She looks like, I don't get it.

1:13:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so hard because it's like, you don't want to invalidate people's what they're saying or feelings, but it's also like, did I watch something different? [SPEAKER_01]: Am I crazy? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is happening here? [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, that's how I look when I'm happy.

1:13:41 [SPEAKER_00]: What? [SPEAKER_00]: That's not why. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then they decided to bring Kingi on. [SPEAKER_01]: She joins them at the streaming and as ominous music plays. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Kristoff said, like, yeah, listen, she had an amazing voice, but I had doubts about her sincerity. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, Kingi says like, they all talk to multiple people.

1:14:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a big deal. [SPEAKER_01]: Basically, he needs to grow up, like, you know, but he was always number one. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, um, oh, so I always though. [SPEAKER_01]: Trust issues with all of these people. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who I believe, all of them. [SPEAKER_01]: um yeah so she says like they talk about the letter because if you remember Christophe gave her a letter to break up with her he didn't want to open up his mouth and say it with words he gave her a letter he said he wanted her to have a letter so she won't be offended and he even because he's so kind told her to read it calmly [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm, don't I crazy over there now?

1:14:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, I even do what he offered you to tell me what is true or what is not, but she walked away. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, sir. [SPEAKER_01]: You basically accused this woman of things. [SPEAKER_01]: Now you act like the, the soul of benevolent Christoph, given her the opportunity to explain her, so when she has nothing to explain, you're a dating multiple people.

1:14:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, what do you mean? [SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, what, you broke up with me? [SPEAKER_00]: It was just a hang-around bag you to stay. [SPEAKER_00]: She talked about anything his response is like, well, you could have cleared it up. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, well, it's already done at that point.

1:15:11 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the point of clearing it up? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, can't things like listen, you should just set it. [SPEAKER_01]: Use your words like don't let it out on time for that. [SPEAKER_01]: You should just set it. [SPEAKER_01]: They ask me if you're regrets letting other people's influence other people influences decision.

1:15:26 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean by that is like him hearing like she was flirting with the other guys and talking about things and he's like nope. [SPEAKER_01]: It was a gut feeling and I trust my gut feeling. [SPEAKER_01]: He said, this is like that guy. [SPEAKER_01]: What's that guy in the UK? [SPEAKER_01]: Love his mind, UK?

1:15:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have a gut feeling here. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to talk about UK? [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, but I forgot at the second in it. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who's on that guy. [SPEAKER_01]: The black guy who said it wasn't his gut. [SPEAKER_01]: It was his. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

1:15:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I forget. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

1:16:01 [SPEAKER_00]: That's right. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so Crystal trusts his gut feelings like it's always right. [SPEAKER_01]: And he said that he had feelings for her. [SPEAKER_01]: He was infatuated with her, but he just didn't know much about her, but they just had an energy between them. [SPEAKER_01]: Lincoln says she was surprised.

1:16:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And she expected to be dumped. [SPEAKER_01]: Like she thought she was the one that was going to be dumped and she was surprised that he dumped Key instead. [SPEAKER_01]: Key is like, I didn't know Christophe had another relationship. [SPEAKER_01]: I just thought it was me here. [SPEAKER_01]: I was for the world of guys, but yes, I thought like it was me.

1:16:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And she was surprised that he was Malika that it was so they got straight to the cheating you guys I vow that we'll always call the cheating. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not calling it a meet-up or whatever the heck it is. [SPEAKER_01]: And they were like, why didn't you tell Malika that it was more than a kiss?

1:16:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And she said, you know, he said, he didn't want it to come out on camera and he regrets that. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: My reputation, all right. [SPEAKER_01]: These people do not know their filming a reality show. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm convinced, because we convinced, he says that he's never cheated on anyone.

1:17:14 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't know Kinga was going to reveal it, and now it's on Netflix for the whole world to see. [SPEAKER_00]: She goes. [SPEAKER_01]: She's not going to be funny, but it was just funny. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he says that she and Christophe met completely by chance. [SPEAKER_01]: She added that part in Warsaw and he told her that he didn't have a bullshirt with Malinka and that, you know, she wanted to try with him and she believed him and under the host is like, [SPEAKER_01]: Was it really by chance that you ran into him?

1:17:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And Christophe says, let's ask him. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say everything. [SPEAKER_01]: If she doesn't want to say everything, then I'm not going to say anything either. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you guys, you're on a reality show. [SPEAKER_00]: This is what the reunion is for.

1:18:00 [SPEAKER_01]: My goodness, and that's when Camille decides, tag me and coach, he's like, I have something to add and we're judgment. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not attacking you, but didn't you ask someone else work crystal for us that day, or didn't you accidentally meet twice like you came there for him and she's like, nope, I had no idea what you're talking about.

1:18:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I came with friends, we're at the square asked crystal. [SPEAKER_01]: Was I not with friends and if she wasn't, um, [SPEAKER_01]: Um, she said she was with friends and she nearly fell off her chair when he came over to ask and I was like, listen. [SPEAKER_01]: That could be true, too. [SPEAKER_01]: But we could have asked someone, where are they going to be?

1:18:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you came to your friends to be at the square. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And then you'll mention you were seeing it in a place where you have to, you don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: And then of course she's going to come over and be like, hey, what's up? [SPEAKER_01]: So it is not up that you are there with friends.

1:18:57 [SPEAKER_00]: This is this is what you do when you want to meet somebody [SPEAKER_01]: Who says, same who he texted to ask where I was and the person can't confirm it. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, you know, texting Alex. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he didn't even let him speak. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, we have all three seats.

1:19:14 [SPEAKER_01]: There are text messages that show that you ask in him, what am I going to be, what time? [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, well, when I saw you, did I ask you to come over? [SPEAKER_01]: Did I ask you to talk to me? [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, how would I have recognized you? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, business, business, [SPEAKER_01]: Does Instagram the stuff that I said, and that gives me more reliable narrators, so, you know, other all buyers.

1:19:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's just like, listen, there's no point going back and forth. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I, you know, there's an idiot's what it is. [SPEAKER_01]: The bottom line is I messed up across the line and it's all me. [SPEAKER_01]: Keating says he asked if she could live in Iceland and he asked producers what his options were and she was like, yeah, like she took him seriously.

1:19:54 [SPEAKER_01]: She even considered the Iceland thing. [SPEAKER_01]: But like, he never considered breaking up with Malika and being with Kingy. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I thought about it for a few minutes, but no, well, for how to even believe it. [SPEAKER_01]: allegedly they're met up just once. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just so absurd that all of a sudden he's gonna like pack up all your whole life.

1:20:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to Iceland and let's do it baby. [SPEAKER_01]: And then if their connection was that strong, I just feel like in the pods they would have shown it to us and they didn't. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they didn't. [SPEAKER_00]: And in the pods, all we saw was that he was like turned on by her voice and that she was like super photoshopped with the ton of people.

1:20:29 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't see any like deep conversations between them or anything. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, they did ask her if she knew the whole actor like did you know that he was with Malika when you met, she didn't say yes, she just said, I mean, I knew she didn't have happened and it was an emotional time for all of us.

1:20:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you're not in the same boat. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_01]: I'm done.

1:21:18 [SPEAKER_01]: This people don't want to talk, so it's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Be petty, yellin' her face. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, come on. [SPEAKER_01]: Just, you don't even have to just say stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Even if you're not yelling, see what you know, just so we can air everything else. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there was a lot of honesty.

1:21:32 [SPEAKER_01]: She says it was a lack of honesty, you respect and courage. [SPEAKER_01]: She believes people make mistakes, there's so be it. [SPEAKER_01]: Camille is bent on staying on King's neck. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know whether it's because he wants to prove to Julia that he, as well as anti-cheating, because he was not a big person next to this heart, and I'm like, he told you first, you were just like, getting her flowers.

1:21:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Now all of a sudden, you want to involve the points, all the logistics, and all of the things, and I'm like, what are you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: It's like stopping consistent. [SPEAKER_01]: So asking me if she can look, Malika and I, movie show is still a little bit crystal. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you haven't said anything now, you're trying me in?

1:22:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's, I like the question though. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Kingy was prepared.

1:22:20 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, I can't look at any eye. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, when I look at any eye, I was not the one in the middle. [SPEAKER_01]: She said, don't ask me to be cautious. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, Julie, she said it, but then she didn't do it. [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't say, I could look at it. [SPEAKER_01]: So if you like it right now, I mean, the location of the chairs is like, look at you like, just to turn all the way to look at her.

1:22:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Julia says, yes, you're not the one that was in the relationship, but you know you met Malika, you knew Malika, you knew she had feelings and woman to woman and you shouldn't have done that. [SPEAKER_01]: It was wrong and Camille is like, yeah, thank you for saying that. [SPEAKER_01]: It is not your fight.

1:22:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, go face your mafia people who are trying to ruin your life and stay out of this. [SPEAKER_01]: He was doing that all over the house like why are you here? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just gonna say she should have waited until things were broken off, waited a little while, and then gone for it, but not on that.

1:23:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Crystal Fizz just like, okay guys, I don't want you also putting another blame on her because I'm the roots, I apologize multiple times to them, and I'm deeply ashamed. [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I'm damn minimum, it's what he should do, but I'm glad he stepped in, because all of a sudden we're going to like, what she did was wrong, but we are not [SPEAKER_01]: The man is over there.

1:23:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the man that was in the relationship building over there, like we're not going to all of a sudden just move over and put it solely on King. [SPEAKER_01]: It's both of them. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Most of him. [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, like, I thought he said, contrary to properly believe, I did follow my heart from start to finish and I just don't want anyone to get hate and personally, Brian, I do think that they spend way too much time on King.

1:23:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I just need to. [SPEAKER_00]: We spend too much time on it considering Malika wasn't actually fighting her or anything. [SPEAKER_00]: Like if, and if this is what it's given us this much time, people need to be yelling back and forth at each other. [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel that she even got more time than Malika, actually.

1:24:14 [SPEAKER_00]: She might have, honestly. [SPEAKER_01]: because it's, but also I'm going to leave it as I want to say anything, because she's too classy. [SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: You know. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It couldn't be me. [SPEAKER_01]: So we find out that King and Christophe actually spoke on the phone like three times.

1:24:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Afterwards, after everything, they spoke in the park and they broke closure. [SPEAKER_01]: But we didn't do it to a public place like when I'm doing this in private anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: But they're not a contact. [SPEAKER_01]: And I just, [SPEAKER_01]: it's just a case of like we just case and there was more like lit you just spoken the phone what were you speaking about three times and then in the part I don't know that's four times it's missing data again [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Kenya says she's dating and she's happy, again, my personalistic ass is like, is it true?

1:24:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we dating enough? [SPEAKER_00]: You're not, you're not. [SPEAKER_00]: So she is, you lie. [SPEAKER_01]: And then she walks off the stage. [SPEAKER_01]: Christoph says that he knows Malika's dating history and he is proof that she's not lucky enough. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but he does say that they try to make it work after, and I'm like, what?

1:25:21 [SPEAKER_00]: They did, even after the whole thing was hanging went down, and I'll still try to make it work. [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy after she found out that she relied about sleeping with her, but, you know, she met his family and parents, but y'all know meeting these guys, families and parents and me, is nothing, but it was nice and but then it really confirmed for her that it was more for them that it was more of a friendship.

1:25:46 [SPEAKER_01]: She lived in Poland for 10 years. [SPEAKER_01]: She got to see a different side of Poland. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, they support each other and that's all it is. [SPEAKER_01]: And also like I told y'all Monika is not the kind of person. [SPEAKER_01]: She said it with her mouth. [SPEAKER_01]: I could not forgive what happened.

1:25:59 [SPEAKER_01]: We can eat so she can't pass that. [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way [SPEAKER_01]: So as Malika, if she single or not, she says that she is single, I do wish to ask more questions about her needs to control, like if they did not to shame her anything. [SPEAKER_01]: But just like a montage of her being like, you know, controlling and saying, oh, you did this.

1:26:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So you don't do this, oh, change. [SPEAKER_01]: that would have been the border between her characteristics and being funny. [SPEAKER_01]: If they showed her telling him to change multiple times and then ended up in that and then was like, oh, do you usually do this? [SPEAKER_01]: Something to that effect, I wish.

1:26:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Even if, even if, how did you feel watching yourself in these moments? [SPEAKER_00]: How did that look to you? [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of a thing would have been fine, but they didn't [SPEAKER_01]: So they asked each of them what did you learn about yourself in this experiment? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it says he used to be afraid to ask the tough questions at the beginning, but now dealing is different.

1:26:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Second date, he's gonna ask, do you want kids? [SPEAKER_01]: How are you living? [SPEAKER_01]: I have ADHD, you know, he's a, he didn't say that, but he's gonna do that. [SPEAKER_01]: You need to decide that she's learned to be more assertive and self-improvement is beyond the year two.

1:27:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is the same thing Julia said, guys, but take with, take, [SPEAKER_01]: Do it that way too will. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's helped her open up more, folks said, like the show helped him communicate and talk about his feelings. [SPEAKER_01]: Darius said the show taught her to loosen up and accept herself more.

1:27:29 [SPEAKER_01]: You guys, I have a question right around this one because I was like, how much more loose could Darius beat? [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought Darius really loved herself. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I thought she [SPEAKER_01]: Julia says she learned to speak kindly about herself and accept herself more.

1:27:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is good, but also why we're saying it wasn't portrayed. [SPEAKER_01]: It's what it was shown. [SPEAKER_01]: And Camille says it's shown him that he knows what he wants in a relationship and what he needs to work on. [SPEAKER_01]: And Christa says he learned to talk about his feelings with men.

1:28:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And everyone's like, oh, that's a good one. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he had a 4KJ. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll make a sense that she learned that you should always be yourself, and there will be someone who accepts you for that, how did I happen? [SPEAKER_01]: You got dumped. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm in the face for being yourself.

1:28:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And then the ants, they thank them for coming in. [SPEAKER_01]: They all hug and you lead a whispers to Darya. [SPEAKER_01]: I hope we meet again someday. [SPEAKER_01]: Darya says, I'm open to it. [SPEAKER_01]: She's not. [SPEAKER_01]: And no, just kind of ants.

1:28:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And that was it for the reunion. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, find out thoughts on the first season of Poland. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, pretty good. [SPEAKER_00]: I, the pods, I thought were very good. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the reunion hosts did what I wish more hosts would do. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the bit in the middle wasn't the best.

1:28:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it was okay. [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the cheating helped part of that. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It was a good season. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, you know, I, the only, I do wish that we would have gotten a little bit more of some of the things we talked about, like I said with Malika, you know, show some more of that footage during um, they were union, but otherwise it was really well done season.

1:29:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I had a, it worked out for them. [SPEAKER_01]: They got all the different components. [SPEAKER_01]: There was drama, there was love triangles, there was actual love, and I just need them to do better in terms of the production and [SPEAKER_01]: telling this people you're in a reality show you have to open up like we're not doing this for too, you know, so yeah agreed.

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