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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi everybody, welcome to another episode of Altacol. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, Tane. [SPEAKER_00]: Here, to talk to you about lovers flying Sweden, season three, reunion. [SPEAKER_00]: We finally made it to the end, and the reunion is here. [SPEAKER_00]: And the season's in to go by, you know, really fast, but it's the usual schedule, so I don't know what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: But before I go into it, when I remind you guys, you can get bonus episodes on Patreon, patreon.com, such Altacol and AFS. [SPEAKER_00]: You can get ad free episodes, you can get bonus episodes, and you can get early access episodes, new bonus episodes coming this week, and I'm just waiting for the announcement for 90 day fiancee, tell all.
[SPEAKER_00]: They already made the announcements for 90 day fiancee. [SPEAKER_00]: I think of OG or happily ever after. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure which one, but it's coming out in May. [SPEAKER_00]: So if that's coming out, then this should be wrapping up pretty soon, but just waiting for the announcement for that, I will be covering the tell all.
[SPEAKER_00]: however many parts they decide to give us this time. [SPEAKER_00]: But also on the regular episodes, so many fun episodes that I've put out the last few weeks on Welcome to Pathfield as Bax is an eight premiere covered that with Brian with a side of Summerhouse Ranting. [SPEAKER_00]: I did an interview with A reality TV producer Liv and we talk about all the things behind the scenes and I ask all the questions that you have.
[SPEAKER_00]: and aid, join me to talk about the death and life of Lamar Odom, the documentary on Netflix. [SPEAKER_00]: So feel free to check those out and, you know, stay subscribed so you don't miss out on any new episodes. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and like I announced last week, Brian and I will be covering temptation islands.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're dropping all the episodes at the same time. [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to figure out how we are going to drop the episodes. [SPEAKER_00]: So again, stay subscribed so you don't miss out on that. [SPEAKER_00]: The reunion starts with an empty stage and then we see some of the pod squad on stage and we watch the cast, each walk in, checking themselves in front of a mirror with their thoughts on their experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're hearing Aaron say, like he feels like she betrayed him. [SPEAKER_00]: That's Angelica, a new S says, I don't think everyone expected me and he bring him to get here and I'm like, you're damn stupid, that's me. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I tell you guys all the time, what do I know about the explained.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at us here. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Jessica, the host comes out and tells us that it's been nine months later. [SPEAKER_00]: Which is a little confusing because she says it's nine months later, but later on in the episode, a lot of them say a year later, it's been a year. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if they're rounding up or if was actually a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: She does say that they have friends and family in the audience. [SPEAKER_00]: Look at that. [SPEAKER_00]: A reunion that doesn't have people from previous cast members because it's all focused on the actual cast members of the season. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they didn't tell Lars Eric the dress code, because he was the most casual of them all, like just in like, I wouldn't even call it a dress shirt.
[SPEAKER_00]: and pants and he just walks out and everyone is all like dressed to the nines kind of I think because we're like Aaron I'll give him a pass but Aaron also kind of missed the mark because he's wearing like a leather jacket and I know that he's he's not dressed badly but he would just seem to little off where it seems like dress for a formal event and then you're dressed like you're going to [SPEAKER_00]: a lounge, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but he still looks good, but Lars Eric was the true victim where he just didn't feel like he dressed for the occasion. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I feel almost greeted with applause except Daniel and Ludwig, they came out together. [SPEAKER_00]: So I did there and I'll see each other in pairs and Daniel and Ludwig came together.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought they were going to cheer for everybody, but they got the [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, they say it like they're the only couple who got married this season, they walk out and she's very heavily pregnant and everyone is so surprised and this always gets me this is not the first time we've had someone in the cast come out at the reunion and they're pregnant but what gets me is when fellow cast members are surprised because in my mind after filming you know some of these people keeping touch they don't all have to keep in touch some people get closer to each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I still feel like, you know, game of telephone, if you're pregnant, one person would tell another person and they have an idea or they haven't hung out. [SPEAKER_00]: Because often you hear, oh, I've been trying to hang out and you haven't hung out with me and it's just, I don't know how you had a pregnancy from people that you spent a lot of time with and you claimed that that's the other thing, they always claim that they're close.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I imagine that they're talking, but somehow they're able to still keep it a surprise, [SPEAKER_00]: So anytime someone is surprised, I'm like, how are they able to keep it a secret? [SPEAKER_00]: I do have to say, I did do diligence. [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't watching it immediately, and I was like trying to avoid spoilers on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_00]: But no, no, no. [SPEAKER_00]: The Instagram knows my Wi-Fi, and maybe knows that I talk about sweetened, and somehow it was just right there on my feet, a picture of both of them, and she was pregnant. [SPEAKER_00]: So I wasn't like surprised while watching [SPEAKER_00]: But I tell you guys all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can never predict who of his mind because, again, I was hoping they didn't stay together, but they got their wish though. [SPEAKER_00]: They wanted a baby ASAP, and they had a baby. [SPEAKER_00]: So, such a my tune, congratulations to them. [SPEAKER_00]: I wish their new family nothing, but the best.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's still not wearing the nose ring though, so. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, they start with them, and Jessica jokes and says, so are you guys still married and Neil is like, nope, when I'm married, I'm just pregnant. [SPEAKER_00]: So if that was funny, she does say that she's due at the end of May, but I don't have an idea of the timeline.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm assuming we're watching it in April, so she's due next month, but I don't know how far along she is. [SPEAKER_00]: She says that the baby wasn't planned, but it's pretty cool. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys know, if you're not using protection, you can't say it's not planned. [SPEAKER_00]: That's how we feel over here on the pod.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just gonna say that this is the sixth loveest blind sweetened baby. [SPEAKER_00]: My memory, I'm trying to remember, I remember, I don't remember their names off top of my head, but I remember two, okay, Karen, I know Karen had a baby. [SPEAKER_00]: Rasmus had a baby, look at me saying, I don't remember their name, but it's coming to me immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's three. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who the other, oh, okay, loveless. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's four. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who the fifth is, but um, they're, they are the six, I guess. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, maybe the fifth will come to me after, but that makes sense. [SPEAKER_00]: At the time I was watching and taking notes, I was like, we have six who are the six, but [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty cool though, you know, if a lover's like this, we didn't pretty pretty cool that this is their six baby. [SPEAKER_00]: So just got asked if any of them had an idea that she was pregnant and Lars Eric turns to Aaron as like this guy and like, okay, did he know like he was told or he suspected and I think he suspected because Aaron said he trying to hang out and he just knew like, you know, she was pregnant, but, you know, didn't say anything Jessica tells him that she and the viewers have questions.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the cash also feel free. [SPEAKER_00]: They have any questions that they should also ask. [SPEAKER_00]: And Jadika says she's nervous to talk about their breakup. [SPEAKER_00]: And Jessica asked Erin if it's difficult to be here. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the first time, he says, like, you know, it's been a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, who get through it? [SPEAKER_00]: And Daniel, he just goes straight into, oh, I just want to ask you on how she's been, how she's doing, I haven't talked to her, you know, while, [SPEAKER_00]: And you guys and Jelika just looks stressed. [SPEAKER_00]: She just looks like she doesn't want to be here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you remember, she's someone who's usually overcome by her emotions, but and she knows that in this story between her and Aaron, she's a villain. [SPEAKER_00]: So she's stressed about that. [SPEAKER_00]: So you guys remember how I told you that it seems like Sweden decided that they weren't gonna be talking about sex.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea maybe you guys could suck it out. [SPEAKER_00]: who was having sex, who was not. [SPEAKER_00]: If you recall, the last love is mine, UK. [SPEAKER_00]: It was another season where they didn't talk about sex either and we didn't know who had had sex or not. [SPEAKER_00]: And I got the chance to interview Barda and asked her about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she said specifically that for her, she told the producers that she was going to respect her family. [SPEAKER_00]: She wasn't going to talk about it. [SPEAKER_00]: And I just did do so that maybe I wanted to keep the story even and the rest of the cast just didn't include it. [SPEAKER_00]: in their story.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm glad that I wasn't crazy because I was like, maybe they did and I missed it because all of a sudden we get a montage and we find out that they did talk about sex. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just that they had a code word for it and produces just decided not to include it in the season. [SPEAKER_00]: It's the most obvious thing in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is pineapple, yay, so creative. [SPEAKER_00]: If they ate pineapple, did you eat pineapple this morning? [SPEAKER_00]: Someone even mentioned like, do you know what production asked me this morning? [SPEAKER_00]: They were asking like what's to deal with us and pineapple? [SPEAKER_00]: Like why do we love the pineapple so much?
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was there. [SPEAKER_00]: They just didn't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Jessica asked if they were able to talk about pineapple like since they were so open with each other that's the the ladies. [SPEAKER_00]: where they able to talk about it, that's in their relationship, basically, where they able to talk about sex and their relationship.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ronny has says, she thinks she and Lars Eric were good at talking about it. [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't actually eat the pineapple. [SPEAKER_00]: And then they sat passing the book to each other. [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone was like, oh, no, not me. [SPEAKER_00]: You asked Daniel, oh, no, you asked Ludwig.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I'm like, it's just a question. [SPEAKER_00]: Just say yes or no, we're able to or not. [SPEAKER_00]: So we start with our first couple, which is Ludwig and Camilla. [SPEAKER_00]: Ludwig says because Jessica asks him what were your expectations? [SPEAKER_00]: And he says like his expectations were to build on what they had from the pods, Camila agrees.
[SPEAKER_00]: Camila is dressed like she was going to the prom, by the way, complete with gloves on her hand and an updue, the little front and back action and now it's like, okay, yeah, this is very promised to me. [SPEAKER_00]: So she says like, they had a great night at the beach party [SPEAKER_00]: She got dumped a few hours later.
[SPEAKER_00]: She felt like she didn't have time to meet his expectations. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, at this point, and I, you know, during the season when I talked about their breakup, I did say that she, her body language was not giving that, she was into Ludwig. [SPEAKER_00]: And I can't remember who said it with a person said that Kimmelas into older men, [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what that means.
[SPEAKER_00]: But remember, Camilla is the one also who's never had a boyfriend. [SPEAKER_00]: She's just been in the situation ships. [SPEAKER_00]: So at this point, when she said she didn't feel that she had time to meet these expectations, I was like, I still call Capon this that as soon as they came to the getaway, it just felt like she was a different person.
[SPEAKER_00]: Her body language wasn't given like she was into him and she wasn't being all, I know she said she's not touchy-feely, but she just wasn't, it didn't feel cupbly from outside. [SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, and I should add that Ludwig came with contacts. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank God, he did not come with transition lenses.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I'll be about that. [SPEAKER_00]: They play the breakup and he looks uncomfortable, like he's uncomfortable watching it. [SPEAKER_00]: He says that he just doesn't think that they were good for each other and they're done. [SPEAKER_00]: This is the breakup. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't recall if it was different, [SPEAKER_00]: from what we watched because the one thing about the Swedish season is they don't clarify like an American shows where they put like, you know, unseen footage.
[SPEAKER_00]: So for me, listen, there's so much to watch, there's so much of my brain. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember if this was the same one that we had watched, but I don't know why they would make us watch it again. [SPEAKER_00]: It looked like a different angle. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, she was like, I don't want to give up, but your will [SPEAKER_00]: So in the confessional, she says like, you know, she's crying again and she says like it triggers her so much like it's just in her romantic life.
[SPEAKER_00]: The question she keeps asking is is she not good enough or she's not worth fighting for? [SPEAKER_00]: And we've seen different situations in different dating shows and where I ask and say, is this a self-fulfilling prophecy? [SPEAKER_00]: because from the outside in, it looked like she wasn't into him and not giving what he wanted granted.
[SPEAKER_00]: He still has his own issues. [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna talk about that. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, if the guys feel like you are not into them are they just also seeing it as something temporary? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, we're not privy to our previous relationship but it's just based on this that we've seen and I have to add, [SPEAKER_00]: based on the edit, what the edit has shown us.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Ludwig is tearing up as well. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's tearing up. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see any tears, but he's wiping something of his eyes. [SPEAKER_00]: And Jessica makes it a point to be like, it just been two days. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad she mentioned that, because when you really think about that, it was just two days, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it wasn't like a week of something, that is pretty fast. [SPEAKER_00]: He said he just felt really strongly about his decision, [SPEAKER_00]: and he had that feeling and he just had to listen to his good. [SPEAKER_00]: And then she asked him again and he's like describe it. [SPEAKER_00]: Like what is that feeling that you got?
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, it just was a friendship vibe and he just needed proof that she liked him. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that Jessica brought in him to talk some more. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the one thing Jessica is good at at the Swedish reunion. [SPEAKER_00]: She'll just keep asking, you know, the questions so they can answer it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And [SPEAKER_00]: Camila is like, I thought that it was just a physical where he says like I'm not showing him attention physically and he like's physical touch, but now later he said it was validation and she thought that she was showing it. [SPEAKER_00]: And just ask again, what was missing?
[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, I think what he was not saying was that there was no chemistry. [SPEAKER_00]: He keeps saying that he needed to know she felt something, but his feeling should not be dependent on her. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, look at Lars Eric. [SPEAKER_00]: He was in his one-sided love all through, but he allegedly knew what he felt like and was still pursuing that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where on his end, I think his calling cap. [SPEAKER_00]: I think both of them were just not suited for each other, and both of them are just not using their words to say it. [SPEAKER_00]: She knows deep down that it didn't right for each other, but she was willing to work on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the difference. [SPEAKER_00]: But her version of how she wanted to try, he didn't have the patience for. [SPEAKER_00]: So if he's saying that he needed to know that she felt something, I don't know what he needed, because his story is changing. [SPEAKER_00]: He's saying he didn't have validation, he's saying he didn't have physical touch, and then now he needed to know that she felt something.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that he had doubts, and he wanted her to convince him otherwise or help swing him, but she was just giving nothing. [SPEAKER_00]: You can't depend on her to create or just strengthening the feelings that you have, you have to have that on you. [SPEAKER_00]: You have to feel like you're giving your all so that if she's not reciprocating you know that you generally did not a plug and play you do X then I'll feel why and you do why and I'll feel X I don't know what that means but yeah that's I mean like algebra to give a result so X equals that so I don't know yeah so and the other says that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was in a triangle because before that he was with, oh, I can't remember her name, but he was in a triangle in the pods and maybe he should have been him validating her because last minute he did the switcheroo and decided that he was going to go with Camilla. [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe she did more reassurance.
[SPEAKER_00]: I say, hey, I'm here with you and I'm not second choice and you're really into me, the audience claps. [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, what do you mean? [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, [SPEAKER_00]: I gave her validation. [SPEAKER_00]: And then Jessica switched it out and just like, well, how much intimacy did you have?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what kind of question is that? [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't do anything. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, again, that was what he was complaining about. [SPEAKER_00]: That there was no physical touch. [SPEAKER_00]: She wasn't showing how much they, they, he, she liked him. [SPEAKER_00]: Call of me stupid, when Camila is like, oh, we ate pineapple.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, what? [SPEAKER_00]: Then everything they have said before this, everything I said, everything Ludwig said, is trash. [SPEAKER_00]: Throw it in the trash and burn it down. [SPEAKER_00]: Because what? [SPEAKER_00]: I was so shocked. [SPEAKER_00]: And then Jessica and then when everyone is like, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Camila is like, my point exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: I just, [SPEAKER_00]: Now I don't even know what to think. [SPEAKER_00]: And this goes back to the episode of the conversation where I did with I'm live with reality TV producer. [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, listen, we can make any story or anybody the villain that we want them to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because now this story has been crafted, and that's just such a big, important thing. [SPEAKER_00]: That I think we should have known is that they had sex and I'm just I was floored like it's not easy to suppress me a reality TV But that just changes everything about the story because what are you complaining about Ludwig like [SPEAKER_00]: we're having the physical intimacy and she showed me that she was into you.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah so that too honestly to me well I knew about the pregnancy that was the biggest surprise to me in this reunion and I wanted you this moment to shout out to listener Therese who valued in my thoughts in the very first week of recap of the episodes I talked about how the Swedish version is always [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the cast members usually speak a lot of English and she was like, yes, Sweden is very much influenced by America.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of English that's mixed into that. [SPEAKER_00]: So thank you for writing in and for listening. [SPEAKER_00]: So they ask again, like, okay, so what was missing if you're saying that you weren't getting the physical, what is it that you were. [SPEAKER_00]: complaining about.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, I can't explain to me further. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is where I think like my theory is right that there was no chemistry. [SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't want to try because there was no chemistry. [SPEAKER_00]: But also when she said like, um, she needed more time to get there.
[SPEAKER_00]: What did she mean considering they'd have sex? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand anything anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't know what what that means. [SPEAKER_00]: So for me, I think like, [SPEAKER_00]: Ludwig had sex didn't think that there was chemistry because earlier he said he felt they were just friends and that was it and she wasn't showing it but she also told him I need time to get there but I don't know you got all the way more than a lot of this couples over here so I don't yeah not sure what that's about okay I'm going to take a quick break and I will be right back hold right in back [SPEAKER_00]: So Aaron interjects and asked, like, are you not gonna apologize Ludwig for wasting her time since, you know, that's what she was looking for, audience claps.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does not apologize. [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, he was like, I also wanted it. [SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping for the best. [SPEAKER_00]: And in Aaron continues, and it's like, I don't know what to say, man, I'm losing all respect for you after seeing this on camera. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't respect that kind of behavior.
[SPEAKER_00]: At first, I was like, all right, Aaron, Mr. self-righteous, stuff inserting yourself, and then I caught myself. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, do you know, this is what we always ask for men to hold other men accountable, like, speak up, and tell them when they're doing something wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what Aaron is doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Aaron just keeps poking, and I'm like, we have a host for that, like, Jessica is there, like, she can ask the questions and she's pretty good at it. [SPEAKER_00]: And he just kept going, and it's like, [SPEAKER_00]: Do you feel like you gave it a fair chance? [SPEAKER_00]: Like do you think that two days was a fair chance?
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you believe that that was a fair chance, then we have different value systems, buddy. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know what to tell you. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, that's funny. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, two days is kind of crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: Two days and you had sex and then all of a sudden you think that there's nothing there and you had a good feeling.
[SPEAKER_00]: When did that good feeling happen before or after you had sex? [SPEAKER_00]: Because if it was before you had sex, what are you doing? [SPEAKER_00]: But I also know his argument would be, oh I thought this actually bring us closer. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, he does apologize eventually and I think we are moving on, but then we move on to Hannah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's who it is, the person that was in the love triangle with him, Hannah. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh my god, this is way too much time on a couple that left early. [SPEAKER_00]: Like we are still on this on this couple. [SPEAKER_00]: I had to look at how much time we had left and I'm like, we have other couples that we need to talk about.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Hannah says that it was a relief that he chose Camilla and then all of some of she heard that they broke up and it was just strange at the party. [SPEAKER_00]: But they haven't kept in contact. [SPEAKER_00]: And when Jessica asks her if she was disappointed that they hadn't kept in contact, she's like, no, he can do whatever he wants.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want someone who doesn't want me. [SPEAKER_00]: So Jessica asks Ludwig if he's single and he says he is single and he is not started dating, Hannah says that she's single and cumulative says yes, I'm single, but my DMs are open, audience claps. [SPEAKER_00]: So that was it for their section.
[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, it ended and I'm like, okay, yeah, I wasn't so interested in their segment. [SPEAKER_00]: I just didn't find them particularly interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't luxury was just I don't know why he was here. [SPEAKER_00]: He's just a typical man that just thinks the grass is greener all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they gave me the biggest surprise, but during the season, I did not find them particularly interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: So we move on to Rania and Lars Eric. [SPEAKER_00]: Rania immediately takes responsibility and says like their first meeting was not the best. [SPEAKER_00]: They she panicked and she should have taken her time and he says like obviously I noticed that something was off, but I just adjusted myself [SPEAKER_00]: and run here is like that was the problem that if he had to adjust, then she also had to adjust, and then they didn't get to talk more about things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Y'all, she's sitting beside Angelica on the couch, that's her couch mate on stage, and Angelica looks so stressed. [SPEAKER_00]: I know I've said this before, but she really does look stressed. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, they actually look stressed. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, let me have the bags under his eyes.
[SPEAKER_00]: As an Angelica, almost like she's been up all night just worrying about this and I'm like, [SPEAKER_00]: Because again during the season, we've seen her be so overcome with emotion and usually she's crying, but she looks really stressed. [SPEAKER_00]: And Rania starts crying and she was like, it was just really very difficult to communicate.
[SPEAKER_00]: she apologizes to him again for saying that she wanted to drop out in Greece and that if the connection wasn't there when they moved back that she was going to leave because she wanted to be honest and she knows that she wanted to be honest but it was not a nice thing to say to him and it just seemed like she was just angry when she's not an angry person and she just wasn't doing well during the experiment.
[SPEAKER_00]: She says that he's not a bad person but they brought out the [SPEAKER_00]: She said she was bad at expressing how she felt and in hindsight, that just makes her sound too watch. [SPEAKER_00]: Jessica asked if she was in love with Lars Eric and she says yes, that she was in love with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: That surprised me all. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think at any point I thought that she was in love with him. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought she maybe liked him and then appreciated that he was a good man. [SPEAKER_00]: But to say that she was in love with him, that was a surprise for me. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you guys think?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that Ronia was in love with Lars Eric? [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, this is the couple that just really annoyed me that they should never have been together. [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing about this too. [SPEAKER_00]: It was just that damn Cheetos and Coca. [SPEAKER_00]: What was it? [SPEAKER_00]: Cheetos puffs and Coke that brought them together, but other than not, I just don't know what this too having common.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't ask her like have you told him any of this that you just said in the last year and she goes no like we haven't talked about anything and then she asked him I was like, oh, do you feel this way large like would you have wanted to hear this and you said you would have been nice and then he goes on to say a lot of things that aren't direct.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just got asked and if there was anything he wishes you would have done different and he goes. [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing, I wish I would have done different that he gave it his all. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, maybe not choose a woman who didn't share your faith. [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, why wasn't this asked?
[SPEAKER_00]: But in Jessica Retros, she's going to say, she's going to ask. [SPEAKER_00]: And Jessica update. [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, she is picking at her finger, her fingernails. [SPEAKER_00]: She is clasping her fingers together. [SPEAKER_00]: She is looking down. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like somebody check on this girl.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they're getting breaks in between. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, in Jessica, I trust because right after I had that thought of why did you choose a woman who didn't share your faith that's so important to you, she asked. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that if you guys had continued with faith, I've been a problem and he's goes, yes, I think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, oh, why do you think so? [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, I don't think I could have accepted the way she wants to live her life. [SPEAKER_00]: and Jelika update. [SPEAKER_00]: I swear I have seen two arrows during this segment and she's so uninterested she is sipping her drink from her gold goblet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but back to them. [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, they're all like huh? [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean? [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean like the way she wants to live her life? [SPEAKER_00]: Explain. [SPEAKER_00]: He says their morals wouldn't have aligned. [SPEAKER_00]: I need more. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we ever got more. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what he means by morals. [SPEAKER_00]: But that word just gives that connotation like you are some participating in some debauchery and you're just like, no, I would never do that. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, she says like I didn't think that faith was the most important problem that we had, like it was not the most important problem that we had that we just weren't happy so for him to say like the faith would have been a thing then why are we here like yes guys finally caught up to where I am what were you guys doing the entire time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we move on to Donette, a refresher that Donette was the other person that Lars Eric was considering this was his other connection and Jessica asked if they'd met up after everything and she was like, yes, they didn't meet up after the engagement party and they kind of sort of dated. [SPEAKER_00]: Rania didn't know about it because Donette halted her and told her [SPEAKER_00]: told her that they kissed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rania says she was shocked that it happened so quickly, but at the same time, I mean, technically there's nothing wrong with it. [SPEAKER_00]: She would just, you know, it was really quick, considering like, you know, Lars Eric was all like, oh, I mean, love with her and stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: But it quickly fizzled out between Darnette and Lars Eric because Lars Eric did not keep in touch with her.
[SPEAKER_00]: He started to tell the story of how he went overseas to help Aaron. [SPEAKER_00]: with something apparently Aaron and Lars Erick are really close. [SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to know, overseas wear, what country did he go back? [SPEAKER_00]: I think he was playing basketball. [SPEAKER_00]: Was this pain?
[SPEAKER_00]: Might be getting that up somewhere. [SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, Donette was like, okay, long and short, no, the commitment just wasn't there. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this is my assessment of these two, um, not facts. [SPEAKER_00]: I've said this earlier in an episode that I don't think that he was attracted to Donette, um, their one soul thing was their faith, but everything else, [SPEAKER_00]: I could have pinpoint why Lars Eric annoyed me so much, but he annoyed me even more in this reunion and he seems like the kind of guy who has made his faith his whole personality.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have nothing against anyone who has faith, I think he's a lot to have his faith and actually, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good thing if he has his faith, but to make it his whole personality and allegedly his guy and like, and I think he's the kind of person that would pick his faith over loving that neighbor completely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because there are people who are like, oh, I would never turn away from what God tells me to do. [SPEAKER_00]: God tells you to love that neighbor, but you would say the rules of this say like this is wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: So therefore, I'm not gonna support this. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Lars Eric is the kind of person. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, who do that? [SPEAKER_00]: I still haven't forgotten like something about the way like in the pause when he says, Oh, no, I'm not that kind of person. [SPEAKER_00]: I have a gay friend. [SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean? [SPEAKER_00]: I have a gay friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when he said that in the pause, I was like an iktony. [SPEAKER_00]: That's like someone like, let's say they're accused of something or accused of, Oh, you're being racist and you're like, No, I have a black friend. [SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean? [SPEAKER_00]: What is the one singular?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like that. [SPEAKER_00]: So he's annoyed me, you know, from then. [SPEAKER_00]: And just the way he just said our morals went online and the way she lives her life. [SPEAKER_00]: And don't ask me how, I don't know how I'm going to prove, but he just doesn't strike me as someone who just would be with a black girl long term.
[SPEAKER_00]: So um, Lars Eric is just not my kind of guy. [SPEAKER_00]: And again, do not misunderstand. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not because of [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think like you can be a good example of faith where to me, the ultimate um... [SPEAKER_00]: rule when your personal faith is loved anywhere as I sell love everyone everyone is equal and no hatred don't know rules or things like that but for someone like Lars Eric you know she pointedly asked him do you think our kids are gonna go to hell and I just feel like Lars Eric I don't know he said he would never turn in his kid but I know he never directly answered it feels like he would be like my faith doesn't align with this and then you might
[SPEAKER_00]: kick your child out or not give them the safety that they required just because your child is gay. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what bothers me about Lars Eric. [SPEAKER_00]: Again, not fact just what I think of him from this. [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know what you think as always. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm always willing to hear you guys out and hear what your thoughts are on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jessica, that's the question for everyone. [SPEAKER_00]: Lars, are you single? [SPEAKER_00]: He is not single, and he's not going to tell us who it is, but she's the best woman I have met in a long time. [SPEAKER_00]: See, he's just giving me more proof. [SPEAKER_00]: Why did he say that?
[SPEAKER_00]: You say that in front of the person that you allegedly was so in love with, that's Rania. [SPEAKER_00]: You say that in front of Donette, who you kind of ghosted, and you're like the best woman I've met in a long time. [SPEAKER_00]: You could have had a completely different choice of words where you chose to say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: not my kind of person. [SPEAKER_00]: So Jessica asked if the woman that is the best woman he's made in a long time gives him unconditional love and it was like, well, only two people can give that, your mom and Jesus. [SPEAKER_00]: So [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, Ron has says that she is not going to say, but what she can say is that she's very happy and I just wrote my eyes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you just say yes, I know it's giving hooda in the love island reunion like just are you single or you not we don't need to know who it is and also really we don't care who it is she asked that net done that is not single. [SPEAKER_00]: either. [SPEAKER_00]: So they're all happy. [SPEAKER_00]: I guess in their own way.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Angelica update, she's smiling. [SPEAKER_00]: Yay! [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll take this chance to take a break and I'll be right back to talk about Ibrahim and Anila. [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, when you're happy, there's nothing to talk about and you're already kind of did their stuff in the beginning.
[SPEAKER_00]: We get the classic first year montage and it was so cute. [SPEAKER_00]: It really was so cute. [SPEAKER_00]: I never get tired of seeing actually the first year marriage montage of Love is Blind. [SPEAKER_00]: No matter what the franchise is. [SPEAKER_00]: People were tearing up on stage in the audience, including Fabian.
[SPEAKER_00]: And anytime they show this and they show all the people who went in the experiment and it didn't work for them. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm almost like I bet this people were just reminded of what could have been and what could have been different when that happened. [SPEAKER_00]: They talk about moving because he was supposed to move to Stockholm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I heard that he has moved, but by the time that we're talking about it, I still heard that they were kind of separate, but kind of making it work because the baby's coming soon, so maybe I misunderstood that. [SPEAKER_00]: Kimela does say that what they did write that the rest of them did wrong was their communication, and even when they got into spats, they always say we and they attacked the problem and not each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: So. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I think that's about it. [SPEAKER_00]: They talked about the babies and huge project is going to be coming. [SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to work in that together. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So then we move to Daniel and Johanna, we get a whole thing on love languages.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in that montage, we find that Daniel has in fact been told about love languages. [SPEAKER_00]: Many, many, many, many, many times. [SPEAKER_00]: And he just was not. [SPEAKER_00]: getting it in, if he's brave. [SPEAKER_00]: It was one ear in, one ear out. [SPEAKER_00]: And then he starts with the charm and tries to sail the nice things.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go, I should have known. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was just me. [SPEAKER_00]: I just wasn't getting that. [SPEAKER_00]: But Yana says that she feels that he was trying to convey that he was trying, not actually trying, just trying to act or portray that he was trying. [SPEAKER_00]: He says that he was new territory [SPEAKER_00]: and he learned that it was, he's been in like superficial relationships and that made him sad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he has good friendship but he's learning that maybe they're superficial and but he doesn't want to ruin the friendships he has by saying like they're superficial and I'm like 10 or what are you talking about? [SPEAKER_00]: But he says he's learned he has it in him but he just has to push for it to happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says he questioned himself and he wondered, can I have emotions? [SPEAKER_00]: Or can I listen and Abraham is like you're giving entertainer like anytime you're around He almost feels like you're performing and whenever he gets too deep or difficult you hide behind jokes and he comes across as Not Shalanda like good love is mine sweet and men and You're gonna felt like all she was doing was talking about feelings so much and then the fun was lost and she just felt alone [SPEAKER_00]: Um, record gate comes up.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the part where Daniel records their conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: But he does it under the table. [SPEAKER_00]: And then at some point goes, ah, ha. [SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha. [SPEAKER_00]: And she had no idea that he was. [SPEAKER_00]: And she says that she was so upset. [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes she has a hard time expressing herself.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what she actually really meant was like, you know, the film crew, like, maybe they should record it. [SPEAKER_00]: And even if she was gonna record, let's go with like his whole thing of like, she brought it up that she would have just put it on the table and say, okay, here, let's record.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how Daniel feels like anyone is gonna buy his story. [SPEAKER_00]: If you were truly being genuine, you would not hide that phone. [SPEAKER_00]: You would put it on the table and say, [SPEAKER_00]: That is a good idea. [SPEAKER_00]: Let us record ourselves and let us hear ourselves and see what we can do about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for you to hide it, not say it and then say like, oh no, it wasn't. [SPEAKER_00]: It was educational. [SPEAKER_00]: That's a whole damn lie that no one with a brain is going to believe. [SPEAKER_00]: So he starts talking as usual. [SPEAKER_00]: That he understood it was for educational purposes and everyone says laughing because he's a joke.
[SPEAKER_00]: He really is. [SPEAKER_00]: Aaron says you're making no sense. [SPEAKER_00]: Abraham says that Daniel told him that she recorded and it wasn't true, like she did not record. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why you know, Abraham was kind of feeling like, okay, if she was recording, then he has to write to record back to.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Daniel's like, well, I don't know what to tell you. [SPEAKER_00]: You misunderstood what I was saying. [SPEAKER_00]: Again, this love is by the sweet and man, they ain't loyal and I love it. [SPEAKER_00]: So just ask Johanna how she felt when Angelica and Rania, you know, sided with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she said it was difficult, but she knew that they didn't have the whole story. [SPEAKER_00]: Rania says, like, it was difficult not knowing what was happening. [SPEAKER_00]: And then mistake was like, they were communicating just not with each other. [SPEAKER_00]: They were communicating to everybody else.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I think that's wrong because as we heard Johannes say, she was trying to communicate all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel just wasn't listening or taking it in. [SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know, that was wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: Rania says, like, he just doesn't listen to her. [SPEAKER_00]: That was right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Ibrahim says that there were many instances where he said the opposite of what Yohana said. [SPEAKER_00]: Danielle again is like, eh, that was a misunderstanding. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to tell you. [SPEAKER_00]: And Ibrahim was like, no, there's a difference between the misunderstanding and lies.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you were lying and Aaron the judge steps in again and says saying, like, oh, you can't see that. [SPEAKER_00]: Like you have to own the truth that you can't come up here and lie and say, like, it's a misunderstanding. [SPEAKER_00]: And Danielle is being very flipping her body and is like, I was wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: I misunderstood. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what else you want from this man. [SPEAKER_00]: So, and the other taps they bring him, like, she puts her hand on his thigh, like, you know, no more, like this, this no need. [SPEAKER_00]: You're talking to a wall and it's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: She was great and she was very, very patient with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she doesn't know, I think it was in the other that she doesn't know how she would have stood with Daniel. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you'd have been impossible. [SPEAKER_00]: Then she did just let Johanna go home when you bring him dumped her. [SPEAKER_00]: She wanted to leave and they were like, no, I think it would work with Daniel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let her go back to Australia and live her fabulous life. [SPEAKER_00]: So Jessica asks updates, you kind of still lives in Australia. [SPEAKER_00]: And Daniel has no contact with Ellen. [SPEAKER_00]: That was the second person that he was in the triangle with. [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, guys, that my theory is that Ellen dumped him because she was going to go with Fabian.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like Daniel immediately was like, oh, I'm glad you said that. [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say the same too after stronger connection because that was not he wanted Ellen. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think he still wanted to make it on the show. [SPEAKER_00]: And he was saying all that to say face.
[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't addressed at all in the episode. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's just my thought on that. [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel says that he's not single and he's with someone and they talk about feeling so much that he's, I want to say he's one man who's girlfriend, thinks that he talks about his feelings too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm chuckling because I don't think he has a girlfriend. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's lying. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh wait, I think I misunderstood standing him. [SPEAKER_00]: Femin still looks scared of his shadow, and Jessica asked him what he liked about her. [SPEAKER_00]: He said that he felt really safe with her, Ellen says that it was difficult, and the worst possible time for her gut feeling to kick in.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's speaking about dumping him at the reveal while this man was on his knees with a ring box open. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, huh, so your gut feeling kicked in coincidentally this immediately after you saw him, [SPEAKER_00]: And she says, like, you know, you have to be in love, and she couldn't enforce it in the short time that they had, but she's proud of the strength that she had.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, okay, and she was like, you're never obligated to be in a relationship with someone and the camera pantser in Jelika. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how I feel about this. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, when they met in the engagement party, Ellen was acting like what she did wasn't something that was devastating, especially to someone who shared their history about being left by people that he loved, whether it's through death or through unfortunate circumstances.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's just like, oh, he just didn't work. [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't think we need to do a big deal. [SPEAKER_00]: Again, you are the one who broke up. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have a fallout. [SPEAKER_00]: You're gut feeling kicked in and you lean into your gut and you're living your best life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the same thing happening now. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's been almost a year. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Nine months or a year, we don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: And you're still saying it like there are no repercussions to you. [SPEAKER_00]: leaning into your gut feeling.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, leaning into your gut feeling, but the timing is just ridiculous. [SPEAKER_00]: You can't say you can enforce it in a short time when we've always known how long this experiment takes. [SPEAKER_00]: And [SPEAKER_00]: could have, I don't even know what's worse. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to lie to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: She she have accepted and an off camera explained to him because to me, the image that burns so brightly in my brain is that he is on his knee, proposing and she's just like I can't, I just can't, I'm so sorry I can't and this man is just they're looking like bewildered. [SPEAKER_00]: And some part of me feels like maybe just say yes and then break up with him off camera.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now everyone is gonna see this, everyone is gonna have this in their brain forever, if they're like me. [SPEAKER_00]: So I just wish there was more empathy to what's that. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes, the words are coming up her mouth, but she's prefacing it with how difficult it was for her, which I don't doubt that it was, [SPEAKER_00]: easier for you who knew that something was wrong versus the person who was completely smitten by you and had no idea that you were even having conflicting feelings.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anila says like most people don't understand the panic of the reveal because you know they were all panicking so dating even understand what she meant when [SPEAKER_00]: She said, like, you know, she panic that they're like, oh, we're all panicking. [SPEAKER_00]: What's the big deal? [SPEAKER_00]: What's different?
[SPEAKER_00]: Jessica asks if she can pinpoint that's to Ellen, what felt wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: And she goes, no, I can't pinpoint what happened. [SPEAKER_00]: I just went blank and all I knew was like, it shouldn't be how you should feel. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Ellen and Daniel would have been a better match because something about Ellen also gives [SPEAKER_00]: It's a word dramatic or entertainment.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it a brain said? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, Denon's always feeling like he's entertaining or something. [SPEAKER_00]: But in her mind, I guess, you know, she's being true to herself. [SPEAKER_00]: And she is. [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I just wish.
[SPEAKER_00]: She showed more empathy on understanding how he felt. [SPEAKER_00]: Again, she is right. [SPEAKER_00]: You should never be obligated. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they should have continued with the relationship. [SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like she should have broken up for him off camera or maybe, hopefully, have got feeling kicked in beforehand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Ellen does seem like someone who is, [SPEAKER_00]: In, like, self awareness, she has that she's the one who told Daniel, like, you need to go deep. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you need to stop being surface and just figure out who you are within. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think there's some self awareness.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think like she probably knew that something was off in the pods, she should have just gone home. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, either gone home, broken off him off camera, but. [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'll commend her because she didn't go on the trip since I feel like everyone just wants to go on that trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I still feel like she did not like what she saw physically and that played a part in it, but she's respecting him and not seeing that. [SPEAKER_00]: I stand by that. [SPEAKER_00]: So Jessica asked about dating and no, she asked him like she asked Ellen. [SPEAKER_00]: Since you said no, why did you feel like maybe you couldn't date, you said it was a short time, why can you just date and maybe give yourself time and she's like, no, it just became too much pressure, like it wouldn't have been fair to us, but because again, I don't think that she liked what she saw physically and wasn't attracted to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Angelica update, she is playing with the [SPEAKER_00]: So, Phenyl is still stressed as well, and he says that he's fine, and he will make the best of it. [SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't started dating neither has she, and [SPEAKER_00]: I still think something about Ellen's off, but I also want Fabian to not look like a sad sack all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're not, Fabian looks like, I don't know if he's a confident man, but he doesn't look like a confident man. [SPEAKER_00]: He does not give confidence and he needs to exude confidence. [SPEAKER_00]: He just, like I said, looks like he's afraid of his shadow, looks like he's sad, looks like he's scared.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just need him to, [SPEAKER_00]: Chin up, hold your head up, King, and just wait for your lady to find you and go live happily ever after in the sunset. [SPEAKER_00]: Fading to the sunset. [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, they have tortured and jelligate enough because Aaron and Jellica are last, and this is what she's been nervous about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jessica says that they are the seasons most unexpected breakup, and Jessica is like, I didn't understand anything. [SPEAKER_00]: Aaron says like he finds it hard to talk and says it's very difficult. [SPEAKER_00]: He does say that Angelica is a wonderful person. [SPEAKER_00]: She gave him an experience but how it ended he felt like she betrayed him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said that they didn't even have a conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't even say, oh, I need this, like I'm feeling this way. [SPEAKER_00]: But instead, she left him on the sidelines and made a decision like a judge. [SPEAKER_00]: And to him, he's like, okay, she doesn't love me. [SPEAKER_00]: He says he told her many times, we don't have to get married.
[SPEAKER_00]: We can just date because all he wanted was to be with her and she just didn't give him that chance. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, whispering, because she didn't want to be with you. [SPEAKER_00]: He said that they were always considerate of each other and when she made this choice, he really just felt like she hated him.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they asked like, you know, what happened just gonna ask Angelica, what happened to your feelings? [SPEAKER_00]: Angelica says that she was in a bubble. [SPEAKER_00]: that they were always together. [SPEAKER_00]: They had no time, you know, when you're always together and you're always with a couple of hoods, you have no time to delve into your feelings alone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, hmm, somehow other couples have been able to do that, okay? [SPEAKER_00]: She says that maybe it's obvious, but it was obvious that she has some insecurities, but she was very much influenced by what others thought and felt about them. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you don't say. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we see Julia. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, hey, Julia, have friend and Samir who listener pointed out are married right now in the audience. [SPEAKER_00]: And I still don't know why Julia wasn't there in the wedding day. [SPEAKER_00]: I wish that just kind of asked that, but she's here in the audience.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's still friends. [SPEAKER_00]: She and Jelika says that getting validation from her friends meant a lot to her at the time. [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that others saw them as the perfect couple made her think, okay, it's good, let's do it. [SPEAKER_00]: So this goes back to the image already that I've talked about all three the season about Angelica that I think I even said this that I think she liked the fact that she had the hottest man of the season, all the man that everyone was looking to as, [SPEAKER_00]: the example of this experiment and how you can get a good man out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So she said she suddenly had a feeling that this wasn't right and it came suddenly after the bachelor rep party when she was alone. [SPEAKER_00]: I guess this was the first time that she wasn't with Erin now that I think about it so it was just back to back but that's interesting that I think about it so she never [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess that tracks that makes sense, but yes, she did say that it came suddenly after the bachelor party when she was alone.
[SPEAKER_00]: She says looking back, it was like a strong feeling that wasn't right and it was a mistake of hers that she ran away and Aaron agrees and he's like, yeah, you ran away. [SPEAKER_00]: He said he told Abraham and Lars Eric, [SPEAKER_00]: And if not for them, he would still be hardbroken today.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says he just didn't get the clarity on what actually happened. [SPEAKER_00]: And he really appreciates her saying that she ran away. [SPEAKER_00]: Jessica asked if they stayed in contact. [SPEAKER_00]: He said they stayed in contact briefly, but it was not good contact. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it just wasn't healthy for them that they met.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he wanted to talk, but it didn't go well. [SPEAKER_00]: And he just felt like she was stuck with her decision. [SPEAKER_00]: I think, [SPEAKER_00]: Aaron had the idea that maybe if they weren't getting married, they would still, you know, kind of date. [SPEAKER_00]: But I do believe Angelica was the one in the bachelor at when she told Anila that if I say no, he's never going to talk to me again.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to appreciate it and we're not going to move on from that. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't... [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just so crazy how our feelings change so much because in their final date, you kept telling him you have nothing to worry about like that's not going to happen like I'm with you, you know, forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, which day didn't bring up in the reunion, she did tell Aaron that it's so weird when someone's feelings goes from 100 to 0. [SPEAKER_00]: I know during their breakup, she tried telling him that she still loves him, but I don't think that's true. [SPEAKER_00]: So, um, he, she wishes, she says that she wishes that she considered his feelings better.
[SPEAKER_00]: The, the rest of the cast were like, they were very shocked because then the list was like, she was so sure. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, even at the bachelor party, we talked about it. [SPEAKER_00]: And she said she was ready to do this. [SPEAKER_00]: Abraham says talking, and Abraham says saying all these nice things about Aaron, how he's like the best [SPEAKER_00]: that he is a complete man and even during the time that they had cracks, that he stayed strong and he didn't even like, you know, fumble or waver and he really didn't remind him and Aaron just tears up and like he's crying, like crying, like shoulder shaking [SPEAKER_00]: because he breaks down, sobbing, it bring him goes over to him, hugs him, and Aaron tells him, brother, I love you, and they hug.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was nice. [SPEAKER_00]: The man is still sobbing and Jessica's like, Aaron, how do you feel? [SPEAKER_00]: How do you think he feels? [SPEAKER_00]: he is solving. [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't answer because he's solving and then she asks another question and I think she said, do you still have feelings or something like, yeah, do you still have feelings for her?
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just crazy because you have to realize that this is not fresh feelings. [SPEAKER_00]: This has been nine months to a year and he still having like a strong reaction to this. [SPEAKER_00]: He says like he doesn't have feelings of love but she was someone who filled a large space in his life quickly and he'll never [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I think rehashing everything and being at the media and just brought back everything back together.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this man loved her down. [SPEAKER_00]: He hopes that someone gets to experience her great qualities that she's a great person, she's a wonderful person, and he hopes that she has learned not to run. [SPEAKER_00]: So they asked the question as usual, [SPEAKER_00]: Are you single? [SPEAKER_00]: And Angelica is not single, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not gonna tell us who it is. [SPEAKER_00]: She's being private, yada, yada, yada, yada. [SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing about this people. [SPEAKER_00]: Always wanted to keep things private. [SPEAKER_00]: We live in a world where people are more than happy to share that information, even if you don't tell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the more you try to say, oh, I'm gonna be private. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna say it, the more they're gonna go look for that person. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like, instead of being coy, if you're just like, oh, yes, I'm not single, I'm happy, that's it. [SPEAKER_00]: I know, she has a boyfriend and move on.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you try to be like, [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't want to say who it is or what I'm like, oh, now we're going to go find who that person is. [SPEAKER_00]: So she says she doesn't want to share. [SPEAKER_00]: They ask Aaron, Aaron is single. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think Abraham or someone cracked a joke and was like, not for long after this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was it. [SPEAKER_00]: So the rean is done. [SPEAKER_00]: And that was it for the season. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the credits ruled. [SPEAKER_00]: Some people were hugging each other. [SPEAKER_00]: I think Aaron and Angelica were hugging each other. [SPEAKER_00]: And everyone was in good spirits.
[SPEAKER_00]: that marks the end of love is blind. [SPEAKER_00]: So it was a great season. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you guys watched and I'm glad you guys stuck through it. [SPEAKER_00]: If you know it was just me, solo, truly appreciate you guys. [SPEAKER_00]: The next one, like I said, was love is blind her baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming out. [SPEAKER_00]: The first season wasn't so great. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'll watch it, but let me know if you aren't going to watch it, but I do know that love is my UK is coming out in the summer. [SPEAKER_00]: So looking forward to that because that might be the next one that we cover.
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