Love is Blind USA - S11 Eps. 6-8: Part 1 w/Brian

[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, everybody. [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to another episode of Tain Talks. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, Tain. [SPEAKER_00]: Here to talk to you about Love's Blind. [SPEAKER_00]: We are in season 11, and we're talking about the batch of episodes episode 6 to 8. [SPEAKER_00]: Here with me, as always, is Brian from that virgin.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Brian. [SPEAKER_00]: How are you? [SPEAKER_01]: I am fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not loving this season. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not hating this season. [SPEAKER_01]: I am. [SPEAKER_01]: Just fine. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I need us to have a show where we're like excited about, like, you know, it's not fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the last few we've been going like, oh, well, it's just fine. [SPEAKER_00]: And speaking of guys, love is buying a baby. [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like that's what's next up. [SPEAKER_00]: It's season two. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I got mad, I mentioned it the last time, but Brian hasn't watched it before, but yeah, that would be the next one.

[SPEAKER_00]: People love a baby though. [SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'll give it a shot. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll watch anything. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, we made it through most of whatever that fake on this show was like, I'll give something to the shot. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll hope for the best.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I think the last reality show that I watched and I really, really thought was like, oh, this is a great start would have been probably like the real house was Rhode Island. [SPEAKER_01]: that they kind of came out of the barrel guns blazen and it seems like it's going to get crazier next season because somebody then there's a new housewife that assaulted somebody.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's I need that energy. [SPEAKER_01]: I need that and Boston is not delivering that from you right now. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, like I said, I'm curious to see what Habibi would do because we're going to talk about any had this and I feel like it's giving me the things that I feel could have been worked on with Habibi, where it's very, you know, cultural religious, like of course, as expected, they're not staying in the same hotel rooms, they're going to get away every morning, they meet up.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of, I want my parents to meet you first and then they had people who [SPEAKER_00]: You know, then like I can't sign up if that doesn't happen. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if my parents would be okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So that was it. [SPEAKER_00]: Some curious to just see How that happens because I mean they got a second season.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it must be for good reason. [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see what happens with that. [SPEAKER_00]: Remind our patreon patreon.com slash taint talks to get bonus episodes early episodes at free episodes for just three dollars. [SPEAKER_00]: Just did 90 day fiance the other way with aid. [SPEAKER_00]: So you can check that out, you know, she came, we heard theories, you know, Nigel and Andy and she was like, baby Nigel is not the bad guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, A to God her take. [SPEAKER_00]: So go listen to that. [SPEAKER_01]: It was in the same words to say, but okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think her argument not to give it away. [SPEAKER_00]: Her argument was like, they had an agreement and he's probably was very clear about what it was, but she's choosing to hear what she wants to hear and change the terms of agreement that they had, which is not insane.

[SPEAKER_01]: See, I see it the other way. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they ever had any actual agreement because the way that she described it was like, well, it's I'm not there So it's unfair if you like to private him of a physical relationship because I can't be there Which is exactly the opposite of what he thinks is going on, and so I don't think they actually had an agreement I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I if you don't wear your shoes or socks and a grocery store, you're the bad guy It's hard for you to pass that [SPEAKER_00]: Well, like I said, we'll see it was a fun conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: So you can hear that on the Patreon. [SPEAKER_00]: And also I talked about hunt for love. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll have another bonus episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: You get one bonus episode every week. [SPEAKER_00]: You can check that out and just support the podcast. [SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate it. [SPEAKER_00]: All right, before we get into the episode, I have comments from the last Sunday recorded. [SPEAKER_00]: One was a message for you, Brian. [SPEAKER_00]: I have been told to tell you that Boston accent still exists.

[SPEAKER_01]: They still exist. [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I, I wish they were, we didn't see enough of them in this, in this season. [SPEAKER_01]: And they're, regional accents still exist. [SPEAKER_01]: They're just not as ubiquitous as they used to be. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, when I moved to Chicago, 30 years ago, everybody sounded like, you know, the Chris Farley's Superfan character.

[SPEAKER_01]: You still have that, but it's like, it's not as, it's not everybody anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: We're just kind of sad for me. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're disagreeing with you. [SPEAKER_00]: It's fair. [SPEAKER_00]: It's because we said, as someone was family there, runs the marathons there, they're there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I pick up on it all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just a mess. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank God. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just a mess. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just a mess. [SPEAKER_01]: I want them to still be there. [SPEAKER_01]: I also wanted them on this season of TV. [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't really get that part.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they did say probably because maybe they're transplants, that's why we didn't get it. [SPEAKER_01]: That's my guess. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So thank you, Danny, for the comment. [SPEAKER_00]: And the next comment was from Kimber, High Kimber. [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Tane, I was a red Irish person.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think there were a few issues here. [SPEAKER_00]: This isn't regards to my question. [SPEAKER_00]: I was just innocent. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Why everyone seemed to be red. [SPEAKER_00]: Like was going on and this is a direct quote. [SPEAKER_00]: So if it's doing winter, the wind burn will get you especially when you come inside to the heat.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mid lighting was terrible this season and no fresh air in the pot building. [SPEAKER_00]: The second it gets stuffy, especially if the heat is on. [SPEAKER_00]: you're done for and you will be inflamed in seconds. [SPEAKER_01]: So that all checks out. [SPEAKER_01]: It was winter. [SPEAKER_01]: They get there with snow on the ground when they got back.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: That does check out. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you as delegation coming through, I more you know, in search star. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, what is happening? [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on? [SPEAKER_00]: But thank you guys. [SPEAKER_00]: I always appreciate when you said comments and when you said again, I say, we don't always have to agree, but I am also willing to learn.

[SPEAKER_00]: So two things. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm always want to learn a new fact. [SPEAKER_00]: All right. [SPEAKER_00]: So this, uh, this batch was [SPEAKER_01]: six, five. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think probably like a five. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was some neat stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: There was some stuff that I'm just like, I didn't hit me at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was stuff, but I was just annoyed. [SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing guys? [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's fair. [SPEAKER_01]: It's fair. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, so we started with Jackson's student case you guys forgot these uh that's the person who was like yeah, I don't want to talk to him This is a guy that we said had a lot of face the Peter Gallagher people face brand doesn't see it But the Peter Gallagher do see it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, the Gallagher. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't see it. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it. [SPEAKER_01]: I bros. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes That's not my Sandy Cohen. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes We'll see reference guys [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I always think everything is like everyone, you know, will get it and then I realize I call people are like much younger and they're like, what's that?

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, watch the O.C. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't understand. [SPEAKER_01]: It's time capsule to understand millennials. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even see anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: There's awkward meetup at a restaurant. [SPEAKER_00]: That is how the last batch ended. [SPEAKER_00]: And he wanted to know why at least they did not have a conversation.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just like, I mean, you're right. [SPEAKER_00]: We should have had a conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: I just have no good reason. [SPEAKER_00]: I said, why, they don't know the right, they don't know him at all. [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's like stop dating the 60 year old man and like find somebody to actually settle down with and get serious about your life.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a kind of the way that I interpret it and there's being like, I don't know him. [SPEAKER_01]: He's better than nobody, just go with him. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was very strange because she's like, everyone in my life is pushing me to give it a chance. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, again, based on what?

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, no, it's man. [SPEAKER_00]: Even if you found the social media and you showed it to him, you don't know this man. [SPEAKER_00]: So why are you pushing like the person you know is jacks? [SPEAKER_00]: And she saw him and he didn't work. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that could go either way.

[SPEAKER_00]: You could be like, we know jacks. [SPEAKER_00]: She, the picker is wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: So do I see it or just trust her, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: well I'm also wondering what she told them because like I could see if it's like oh all this time I've been like gushing about this great guy and then I bailed and they're like why would you bail he's a great guy there's no way she came home got on the phone and was like singing his praises and then was like a matter just ghosted him because in that case family be like well go get him but she couldn't have said good things about him because she bailed so I'm just very confused by this [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very confused by this meetup.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to take away from it. [SPEAKER_00]: And this batch also reminded me what we picked up from the last season behind. [SPEAKER_00]: Confessionals are very scarce. [SPEAKER_00]: That there's no where I'm like, hello, somebody, tell me what to think, what are you feeling, what's going on?

[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like their thing of the past now, we're not gonna get them accepted. [SPEAKER_00]: blue moon. [SPEAKER_00]: That's going to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: So big, and I say, like, this was awkward because she does this nervous laughter thing where she's close to him. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's just laughing like, I think he's actually being serious.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of rare and he's trying to figure out like because, you know, honestly, sometimes the way people react to things kind of [SPEAKER_00]: Being ghosted, no conversation, literally you were engaged, and all that, that's pretty, you know what the sucks, that's pretty messed up to do with what.

[SPEAKER_00]: But he's taking it on the chin, right? [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just like, you know, what happened with that? [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, okay, maybe wasn't that bad? [SPEAKER_00]: No, it was. [SPEAKER_00]: It was. [SPEAKER_01]: It was. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I also know it's a make of it, because like you said, I don't even know if it's like when she's nervous, she has that fake laugh.

[SPEAKER_01]: To me, it's just kind of like, [SPEAKER_01]: And so there's like, I'm going to treat everything like it's super. [SPEAKER_01]: Even when she walked in, she walked in with a smile on her face. [SPEAKER_01]: Like she's seeing her old college roommate for the first time in 10 years. [SPEAKER_01]: And this wants to like catch up and have a key key.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm just like, you can't walk up with like an open mouth smile. [SPEAKER_01]: Like after what she did to this man. [SPEAKER_01]: So I just think that she uses that because it's supposed to be like disarming. [SPEAKER_01]: But all it would do with me is like irritate me. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are you laughing at?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to have a conversation with you. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you were sexy in the city, but carry you through that in the city. [SPEAKER_00]: And you see her knowing me, she thinks she has her charm. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just cop my head to the side and come on. [SPEAKER_01]: But... Fuck that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I didn't know if he had hope. [SPEAKER_00]: He mentioned something about still having hope. [SPEAKER_00]: And, but then on the flip side, he was like, I would have felt that way when she was like everyone's pushing me us to get back together, the idea, the idea, the idea. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, I would have felt that way last week, but then I gave you a chance.

[SPEAKER_00]: But Monday came Tuesday came Wednesday, did nothing. [SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm like, maybe what we had wasn't real. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, so you have hope or you want like, are we done? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he showed up neutral. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he showed up basically like, whichever direction she's pushing or pulling, I'm just gonna kind of fall that thread and see where it goes.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then she got in there and was confusing to him. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, was it like, oh my God, I fucked up. [SPEAKER_01]: And I would love for us to try it again. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just freaked out whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't that. [SPEAKER_01]: But it also wasn't like, you know, we're just not meant to be like, I didn't feel right, whatever, so he's just like, all right, I don't really know what this is.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then by the end of it, I think he's just like, this is bullshit. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, this is real. [SPEAKER_01]: You're not. [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe we're just friends and we leave it at that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't, I don't know what the resolution to this was. [SPEAKER_01]: I hope we never see them again.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure they're going to be at the reunion. [SPEAKER_01]: But like, I don't know what to make of any of this. [SPEAKER_01]: It was almost as confusing as Patrick and whatever that girl was who like made out with him after breaking up with him. [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say Casey with the song.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, it might have been Casey. [SPEAKER_01]: But just like, like, you're dumped, let's make out. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to climb you like a tree and then it's never talked to you again. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I don't know what we are now. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the same thing here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't get a read on her either. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, everyone in the family has been saying, pushing you to give it a chance. [SPEAKER_00]: What did you tell them? [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I would do. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I don't. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what was the purpose? [SPEAKER_00]: So at least in Netherlands, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: When Yasmin and Miguel had that, the payoff was like, [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: What is to pay off for this? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because by the time we get the end of this episode when they move in together, we don't still see by the end of episode eight, we don't see them again.

[SPEAKER_01]: So why don't we ever go in to do this like that's exactly do this if it's explosive if it's dramatic if if if she gets called out on her bullshit for that. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay fine Just to have it be a weird lunch or whatever where I don't know what they are at the end of it is a waste of my time watch this we'll see you play out [SPEAKER_00]: it is and then she made this weird comment like so are you gonna kiss me as something because I can't do it like what oh god no her explanation is much like Yasmin from that lens where it's like you know I just felt like I had this expectation like once we had this reveal all my nervousness and anxiety will go away I'm like [SPEAKER_01]: but he thought that was going to happen.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're giving this too much time on a sea because there's no pain in this nothing but that's what it is. [SPEAKER_00]: That's where they are. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where my notes they can't go because that's usually what it was. [SPEAKER_00]: They've got the budget. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know how big these [SPEAKER_01]: to loom is also spin the enough.

[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't go like Tijuana. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm like we didn't see like usually they have this elaborate date and what's not what they drove and it like it wasn't it it didn't seem totally excursive. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they didn't spend so much time on it. [SPEAKER_00]: So what we're going to do is go through couples, see a little bit of the highlights of whatever happened with them before [SPEAKER_00]: All the couples meet and I if my memory serves me right it's been a while or if at all that we've had it This is the longest we've ever been before all the couples got together.

[SPEAKER_00]: My goodness. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because usually we have we have like the pod people meet up in this Bachelor episodes like that's natural. [SPEAKER_01]: This ends is like I saw somebody from the pods and oh my god Are you flirting is that what you want to be with that's how this batch is supposed to end and we have gotten there yet [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the first batch usually they meet already. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll start with Sarah and John, which everybody's morning, the fact that there's two together because I'm just going on. [SPEAKER_01]: It's you all said. [SPEAKER_01]: So, [SPEAKER_00]: We have to do a did they didn't they this is tradition at this point did they have sex They not but I guess they did have sex was I think too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think yeah, I think yeah, I don't know if it was any good, but I think so What I said I don't believe it is broke [SPEAKER_00]: I did, I'm trying to give myself together. [SPEAKER_00]: Paring up, not pairing because they chose themselves. [SPEAKER_00]: Like a met professional with a conspiracy theory.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I'm calling you. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, we're dancing around it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's going to be raw milk mentioned. [SPEAKER_00]: That's it. [SPEAKER_00]: He's a consumerist and this is insane. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just wild Because they're talking about he's drinking and Sarah ever so and this is what I don't like for her She keeps saying she could be herself what I'm seeing is not her being herself [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like she's walking on eggshells and she has to present things in a certain way and she's all smiley and nice She's like oh, are you that ever worried about alcohol?

[SPEAKER_00]: He was what do you mean in relation to the MS? [SPEAKER_00]: He was like she was like, oh, yeah, like she's sick and it's like No, I didn't think about that, but you know, but they're also the way I see it I'm gonna leave life to the fullest and I'm like, okay, so you're so anti the vaccine and all the other things But then you're like alcohol fuck yeah, like I [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's no scientific or medical underpinning to why he does what he does.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, I don't believe what they tell me is supposed to be good for me, so I'm gonna do the opposite. [SPEAKER_01]: It's, I don't, I don't think he's to this point, but I know that right now, be rolled through the enough. [SPEAKER_01]: There's a big thing with AI developers taking up cigarettes, because they're like, oh, the AI's in a cure cancer anyway.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I'll just start smoking, because like, this isn't going to affect me up. [SPEAKER_01]: They'll have a cure before I even get sick. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, but what if they don't? [SPEAKER_01]: You're 35. [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean you're starting to smoke cigarettes?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are you talking about? [SPEAKER_01]: It feels similar here. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a real thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make sense. [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he just like picks up shit. [SPEAKER_01]: And also, I said last time, I think he's Manless Fierre Jason.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I know Ron Milk is a thing there too, and I'm sure he's big into like beef, Tallow, and all that shit. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's adjacent. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's in it. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's all the way in it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think he's in the ring.

[SPEAKER_00]: He might be, you know, what's a called when you're in the bench, but he's in it. [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a starter, but he's in it. [SPEAKER_00]: He's in it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: It was not to not just like whatever she says stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's putting on an act.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is. [SPEAKER_00]: willing to at least say even if he's an act. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I hear what you're saying. [SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense, so you challenge me. [SPEAKER_00]: As opposed to nope, you're a woman showed up. [SPEAKER_00]: And all that would be an act. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I'm not putting him and starting a lot of, but he's in it.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not adjacent. [SPEAKER_00]: He's in. [SPEAKER_01]: The self-aware man knows fear. [SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah, this man also says like, what is he said? [SPEAKER_00]: He drinks because it was the cleanest alcohol. [SPEAKER_00]: And like, John. [SPEAKER_01]: To Kila, he said to Kila as the cleanest alcohol, I'm like, based on what?

[SPEAKER_01]: John. [SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to drink just drink and that's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Something's got to kill a man. [SPEAKER_00]: What can I pick? [SPEAKER_00]: What is my vice? [SPEAKER_00]: Fritz necks. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, gummy bears, whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a cleanest candy. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not chocolate, but a tannic calories. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna lose. [SPEAKER_01]: There's no harmony of this. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, I don't, and I'm like, also based on what? [SPEAKER_01]: Because if I'm thinking of the clearest, the cleanest liquor, I would assume it's vodka.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's vodka. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't drink vodka, but like, that's, I don't think of Ticquila as like, fresh. [SPEAKER_00]: What I mean, even for vodka, the word is not even clean because clean an alcohol to me and doesn't go to get a slowest calorie. [SPEAKER_00]: One of the lowest calorie alcohol.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like, again, if you're going to drink, just commit to it. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't try to, don't try to put quality fires in front of it. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't fancy it. [SPEAKER_00]: She kindly says, oh, I don't I don't think that's true and Jen she goes like With a with a smile and then she's to say like and also there's no direct correlation You know between alcohol and MS and I was like listen [SPEAKER_00]: Let's assume that that's the thing, I didn't look it up so I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not claiming to be a healthcare professional, but everyone can agree that there's never been a time where alcohol is going to help. [SPEAKER_00]: Something, except diminishing faculties. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, if you have like hysterical sobriety, then yes, alcohol will cure that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what other, it's not good for anything. [SPEAKER_00]: I know, like, even if there's no direct correlation, no one's ever said, but you know what? [SPEAKER_00]: If you drink this, oh, man, it's gonna help. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not gonna make it better. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's gonna be something because he can also, like, he seems like the kind to just like throw out all these BS, like people would be like, well, I don't really know, but she's a healthier professional. [SPEAKER_00]: So she has fat. [SPEAKER_00]: So he'll always kind of remember like, okay, I can't be careless.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think you might forget because it's used to doing that. [SPEAKER_00]: He's one of those I'm the smartest men in the room. [SPEAKER_00]: I know I read it on Facebook or some shit. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be something and jumping jumping ahead to whenever the weddings are for her sake.

[SPEAKER_00]: She better say no. [SPEAKER_00]: Like she better. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: This is a match made in hell. [SPEAKER_01]: Like you do not stay with this man. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: All right. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll take my first break and help you right back. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we are back with Willney and Wilson.

[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, Willney Girl. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know that mean that has like a woman? [SPEAKER_00]: It's like they usually do that, like she's tired. [SPEAKER_00]: And she just has her hands on the bed and her head just down, just looking down. [SPEAKER_00]: That, this William Wilson, I just, both of them.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that person was willing, it's both of them. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's both of them. [SPEAKER_00]: Of, I came across a picture of Wilson with Jasmina from Maff's guy. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh. [SPEAKER_00]: They're bestie. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's Boston. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess that this is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: I like him a lot more now because I think she has good as a character. [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's a fun person and I'm like, all right, if you like him, then I give him a pass. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, I even though I'm saying that for Wilson starting from where we are in to loom.

[SPEAKER_00]: The man generally seems happy, you know, because at first I was like, it is he and, well, yeah, he's generally seems happy with her. [SPEAKER_00]: He's also one of those as the smiley face regardless of what's going on. [SPEAKER_00]: He has this like, Dorky smiling his face. [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, happy for him.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he checks it on her like how does she think the first night went. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what will be on me says because really says a lot of things, but she tells us in the confessional that she found out that he's a pecker. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I had to scramble a bit to get to get to what she was saying, and just like it's her pecker and I was like, what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Cause they did, they not, I have no idea if William Wilson had sex. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't you? [SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like they need to make a whole thing, like, don't make it vague. [SPEAKER_00]: It's either or they don't, like, keep it consistent across the board. [SPEAKER_00]: I remember it was my UK, this season that had barto on it.

[SPEAKER_00]: because I got to interview her. [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, you just felt like that's easy. [SPEAKER_00]: No one seems to talk about sex at all. [SPEAKER_00]: And she was saying, like, she told the producers that she was not going to talk about and respect for our family and stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm thinking maybe they just kept it across the board to keep it compared to like last few cases.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's all they talked about. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, having sex. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the only reason it's not because I'm being part of you or anything, but knowing if they've had sex or not adds to the story, at least for me, it tells me how to gauge a relationship, even if things suck, is it like everything else sucks?

[SPEAKER_00]: But the sex is good, okay, or not, or sex is bad, or someone's complaining. [SPEAKER_00]: It just adds a layer of what's viewing their relationship. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you, using the context clues that we have, knowing that will me is fetishizing this man. [SPEAKER_01]: I think if they were having sex, she would have said something to allude to that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if she would hold back. [SPEAKER_00]: So can I, that was advocate, just because she's not been in a relationship with a black man, doesn't mean she hasn't slept one. [SPEAKER_01]: This is true. [SPEAKER_00]: So, that would be, yeah, whatever she would be alluding to. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is, you're, you're right.

[SPEAKER_01]: However, I don't know that she could help it because of how she was acting when she first saw him. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know that she has it in her not to say anything about it. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I could say an interview. [SPEAKER_00]: with her talking about the whole day to the white man day to white man and her voice was shaking and she was nervous and she's like, you know, she sees how it comes up that way, but it wasn't what she meant to and you know, it's always tough with this reality TV where you know, yes, we know it's edited, but it's also like, hmm.

[SPEAKER_00]: The material was provide. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: How do you guys take this? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, there's a human being at the end of this, like, is it a case of, I feel bad now now that I see, but I just think the better route is always like, yes, I did it. [SPEAKER_00]: I see how it comes across like, I feel terrible that that's what it was, but I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not business. [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently she was joking, but the thing with Lily's like, you don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, are you like, yeah, and like, is it a joke or is there some truth to it? [SPEAKER_00]: Is it one of those like, there's a truth in there? [SPEAKER_00]: And then people who add a LOL, but they're serious or they add it like just kidding, but no, that was what I was getting.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know why she's looking for issues because then then, [SPEAKER_00]: we start this whole thing. [SPEAKER_00]: That was going on about him having a second choice, him having someone else that she knew from day one that it was gonna be him, but that she never picked, you know. [SPEAKER_00]: him.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was so irritated by the end of this kept on coming back. [SPEAKER_00]: Really, but I never understand this conversation because if someone proposes to you, you're here together, why focus on the hypothetical? [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, even if you haven't been security fine, this was the first conversation.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't mad yet because it was the first one, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get it out of the way. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel some type of way because you know, we felt kind of weird about the whole thing because she told him that Melaney or Melaney and it was like, was it your place or was it not?

[SPEAKER_00]: And also that is how the show works. [SPEAKER_00]: You take people. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you may be my number one while we're doing it, but I have to check everything and make sure In and out like this is how I feel like I've always said if I was in the pods I would want you to know for sure like who was that in Erica?

[SPEAKER_00]: Which yeah, guys, I'm gonna mix them up last episode. [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who I miss up. [SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned maybe Eric added kid But she's not the one who has a kid. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, she was married before [SPEAKER_00]: murdered before. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, it was either Eric or Michaela. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember which one because both their men's with their women as I mix them up. [SPEAKER_00]: Blake and Rob. [SPEAKER_00]: This is what I was watching this in my cousin because it gives me, is this the bone captain?

[SPEAKER_00]: You guys like, no, it's Rob. [SPEAKER_00]: They just hit it Rob. [SPEAKER_00]: So, is this the other apps like, no, it's Blake? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's at the Minnesota season where my wife every time there was a guy in the screen is he the one that said he was short and I'm like, no, the artist looked the same.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know which one it was. [SPEAKER_01]: It was at this one. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the funny part is I saw her picture today where I was like, Blake and Rob and basically the Kelsey Brothers. [SPEAKER_00]: One strap is one thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair. [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.

[SPEAKER_00]: On there. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's just, so it was fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get it out the way. [SPEAKER_00]: And she was feeling some type of way about it. [SPEAKER_00]: And then if you are, just express that. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, if Malay didn't leave, was there a chance?

[SPEAKER_00]: even though they didn't edit it for us to feel that way, I can't get them, we'll see which is why I started with he genuinely seems happy, he doesn't have like, I wonder what could have happened in the lane state, I don't know, big but also we don't know editing, just much like Roel from Netherlands and Justin and his whole love story we had no idea about.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, sure. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's just kind of like why you're bringing up old shit like we're here together. [SPEAKER_01]: I am happy I have not given you any signals that I'm not into you or that I'm thinking of somebody else like for you to be this upset that on a show Where do you know we're dating a whole bunch of people that I was dating a second person?

[SPEAKER_01]: Is a little bit crazy to me like cool you cut off your connections Maybe it didn't have any others that you thought were worth exploring [SPEAKER_01]: I had at least one more that I wanted to keep on talking to. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, yeah, it just, I don't, I don't understand.

[SPEAKER_01]: Go on, Meredith, for a side thing. [SPEAKER_01]: If one person knows me with you, this is how the show works. [SPEAKER_00]: This is what got me. [SPEAKER_00]: Was then she side throwing around the word. [SPEAKER_00]: It made me feel unsafe. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: and it's so crazy how much parallel there is within this and Netherlands that I need to stop comparing them but the same things keep happening because that was thrown appropriately in Netherlands.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: I will not say that Wilson having a second connection is making will me unsafe. [SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I, I, I, I, I. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a pure sure unsafe. [SPEAKER_01]: No, you're not in danger. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, can we talk it about? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but then she flip flop.

[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, yeah, I didn't like it. [SPEAKER_00]: But I understand you didn't do anything wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: Who are always going to date multiple people. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so stick to that, but no guys we do not because we are going to have our first group get together and [SPEAKER_00]: Michaela is a very vocal person.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I picked up on that from Michaela and I don't know if it was the alcohol because it seemed maybe alcohol was involved in this group get together But she had many thoughts about the African-American confessional. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like I don't understand it all like there was Benita like I don't understand Erica and Blake being together.

[SPEAKER_00]: She lives in Connecticut. [SPEAKER_01]: She was like, she doesn't Connecticut. [SPEAKER_01]: Who lives in Connecticut? [SPEAKER_01]: Just like, well, somebody, like, people? [SPEAKER_00]: No, she said, who lives in Connecticut and dates someone, like on a boat or something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: I thought she was a shitman, Connecticut in general.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, she wasn't, she was like, that's not a real connection. [SPEAKER_00]: She had so much passion to in the competition. [SPEAKER_01]: It just fired up. [SPEAKER_00]: This bothers you, like who cares, Blake is saying things like Rob was an acquired taste. [SPEAKER_00]: And this was the first of many of everyone just saying these things about Rob.

[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe they just setting it up. [SPEAKER_00]: And they're the only ones who say yes, but they're trying to make it seem like he's his terrible person. [SPEAKER_01]: It seemed fine to me. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, these are the highlights of the get together. [SPEAKER_00]: Blake gets all the boys together and was like, hey, guys, I got to tell you something.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, as soon as we have the reveal, we're off camera and everything, Erica comes up to me and is like, hey, it's can black. [SPEAKER_01]: Which I understand why you ask I do not understand he loves he loves Afrobeats like I Understand there are enough context clues dropped in there that I'm like huh, I wonder Um, I don't know that I would have brought it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna find out when you see him That's well, they don't know if he's gonna make it right? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I guess that's true They don't know who's gonna make it to Mexico [SPEAKER_00]: on there. [SPEAKER_00]: So that that was funny to me, but I'm just like, well, and then which makes me wonder, did I need to think the same thing?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because then, uh, she's not, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_00]: tells Rob.

[SPEAKER_00]: She goes, what's the Robin? [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, hey, you didn't. [SPEAKER_00]: I heard you were a cage lion. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what that means. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you thought that. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_01]: I heard it to him. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, what were they saying?

[SPEAKER_01]: Was he? [SPEAKER_01]: We've not seen him even be like slightly excitable or irritated or anything. [SPEAKER_01]: And the way they talk about him is like he showed up and like a dark cloud fell over the men's quarters because he was just like an unpredictable wild card. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm not [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, I get it like he's like a What's it called?

[SPEAKER_00]: The center of attention like if he's in a room like, yes, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Command the attention like you know, on polish on polish and yeah, on polish where something like just a lot of nauseous guy, but I don't know the way they keep bringing it up. [SPEAKER_00]: It was a lot. [SPEAKER_00]: This connection conversation between William Wilson comes up again, and it's just, you know, so exhausting.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not going to get into it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's the same thing that we all said, and we just kept going on and on about it. [SPEAKER_00]: Then all the girls are in the pool, and someone was like, oh, so Sarah, how's it going? [SPEAKER_00]: She'll go, oh, it's so good. [SPEAKER_00]: It was so bad, and someone was like, yeah, I heard this preservative.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just wondering how that, you know, is gonna work out and Sarah gets into. [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're in a place where starting out, you're already having to defend your partner, where it's like, it's fine, oh my God, we're so great. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, he has some things, but the good thing is that we can talk about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: She casually, at this point, throws out the raw milk thing, but it's so quick, you don't even know how to react, that I didn't even know if that's what she said and all that girl. [SPEAKER_00]: You and Danger Girl? [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't I mean it almost felt a little bit like she was trying to convince herself at the same time Like I've also seen Lee's red flags and I also don't know why I'm not running away But like I'm just keep on talking till I get to something Well, she says like she's not worried about his views like he's willing to listen But what she's worried about is that his family is very Christian and she's not [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do not understand why people do this. [SPEAKER_00]: This is something that's very important to you. [SPEAKER_00]: We saw this with Ben in Minnesota and I'm like, if it is important to you, please speak up. [SPEAKER_00]: Like you do yourself a disservice when you're not honest about the things that are important to you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like what do we do here? [SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to change somebody. [SPEAKER_01]: No, one frankly it goes both ways because like also I am somebody with no religion in my life whatsoever. [SPEAKER_01]: If I was on a first date with somebody who's like, oh, my religion's very important to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like, well, this is a terrible match. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, it's not going to work out because like, I'm not, I'm not going to start going the church even for like holidays and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: and then beyond that you are gonna feel like I'm depriving you of something that you need for your own like well-being.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't make any sense and I can see that even if you're like from two different religions and it's like oh but we both our faith is important to us you can relate on a level there. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a whole lot harder when it's like they're very Christian. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: I guess what does make it work somehow? [SPEAKER_01]: Like no, it's not the odd [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Erica says like, it's still feels strange, you know, being out, you know, outside of the pods, but like, you know, the elf feelings are there, but it's building, but they're not quite there and you can see the girls looking at each other like, wait, what the fuck is talking about?

[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone was just laughing about Blake and his random when I was a part of it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kidding. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_00]: Just his boat stories. [SPEAKER_00]: He has a lot of boat stories. [SPEAKER_00]: And someone doesn't imitation of him and everyone found he's still funny.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I think he was Ralph. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if she felt it funny because it was giving um, what was uh, married a first sight. [SPEAKER_01]: Which one? [SPEAKER_00]: Philippe's wife, Philippe's wife. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh. [SPEAKER_00]: It was given everyone's acting at it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, uh, that's not cute. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, huh? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't want my husband to be the butt of the jokes. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, but maybe it's too hard to do it. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's that. [SPEAKER_01]: And also number two.

[SPEAKER_01]: you're also clowning on her because you're based like you felt for these bullshit stories you told in the pot like you heard these stories you thought that's what I want to be a part of like with similar to Tori where it's like you hear him saying this you're just like I'm okay with this yeah she became a little bit of the joke too I feel like this is a very very like shallow thing that shouldn't matter but it's just human nature whenever there's like a group of friends right you don't want to be the one dating the [SPEAKER_01]: Is it terrible if I say the rent of the group like that was going to say the loser fake we're fine [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's what I mean is like usually that's what people are like because you remember um in UK Part of what kept AJ's wife Kira is like she just liked that everyone's like he's the biggest guy He's the tallest guy and it's like yeah, or you're in because it's like oh, he's tall

[SPEAKER_00]: those kind of things. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want their husband. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want your furniture to be the one that was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, this always like obvious leader obvious person who on the funny one, you don't want the one that's like, yeah, we just the one they, you know, you write, you shake their head.

[SPEAKER_00]: Tap, tap it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're there pal. [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want that. [SPEAKER_01]: And you don't want it's one thing if you guys don't see it, but we have this long, you know, a biting love for each other. [SPEAKER_01]: You just need such perfect sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, I also just met him and that's what you guys got and I got them boat captain. [SPEAKER_00]: Anya shares again that she shares this with Willney, which I'm like, why, why? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, again, this was giving Michelle from mouse. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, this is what I heard.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just felt like I had to tell you and she's like, he said that he would they went to the bathroom. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, Willney did ask, okay, that's true. [SPEAKER_00]: Willney asked, hey, when you guys went to, I'm sure it's not the bathroom. [SPEAKER_00]: They can't get to the bathroom together, so you guys are talking.

[SPEAKER_00]: What did you guys talk about? [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, oh, we're just talking about it. [SPEAKER_00]: And he said that he wasn't sure, you know, till the end. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm like, uh, again, we have to listen to this. [SPEAKER_01]: So you're saying shit. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, don't bring this up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So, um, I think that was about the highlights for the first one and going back to Wilney and Wilson, they come back and they sat talking about this all over again. [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I think alcohol was involved in this because they, eyes were a little red. [SPEAKER_00]: There was a little like a, what's going on and there was like the more [SPEAKER_00]: She says he didn't do anything wrong.

[SPEAKER_00]: The more aggravated I got because it's like if you think he didn't do anything wrong They shook the hell up about it like why are we still talking about it? [SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, well, the way I see it I think that it keeps coming up because you're feeling guilt. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, send them to bed.

[SPEAKER_01]: Please Hey, he was like, no, not I must be got that from that's a lot of feeling [SPEAKER_00]: He said, I don't feel guilt. [SPEAKER_00]: I actually feel annoyance. [SPEAKER_00]: And she shocked, they used to go annoyance. [SPEAKER_01]: She tried to manifest this like it was Darcy and Stacey.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna say a thing and hope that it comes true, I'm just like, that's how this works. [SPEAKER_00]: But he's still smiling though. [SPEAKER_00]: So I just like, you're annoyed, but you're smiling when we get in. [SPEAKER_00]: And then we start the beginning of Chugga Chugga. [SPEAKER_00]: She just keeps saying Chugga and we're gonna hear it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, Chugga Chugga is just, you know, indicator of a roller coaster. [SPEAKER_00]: It was, it's in the intro. [SPEAKER_00]: There's a song, Mattrimoni, Usher and Wale. [SPEAKER_00]: And in the beginning there's a guy giving like a monologue and he says, I guess like the Chugga Chugga, that's what she means, but it's like, [SPEAKER_00]: See, once, much like this conversation, we get it, but I think she wants them to have a mantra.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: 20 years down the line, they'll be all chug at chugger. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: She's Gretchen Weeders. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, stop trying to make chugger chugger happen. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're trying so hard to make this a thing. [SPEAKER_00]: He does ask her, do you think you're ready to be a wife?

[SPEAKER_00]: And she just says, I'm hoping to get there in four weeks. [SPEAKER_01]: This man needs to run, run for the hills. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, now who's not being reassuring? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what is he eating? [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, this is bad. [SPEAKER_01]: Go, man, this is bad. [SPEAKER_00]: All righty, I'll take a break here, and I'll be back with Blake and Erica.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we are back. [SPEAKER_00]: So, Blake and Erica. [SPEAKER_00]: They did the loads work and told us immediately that they did not have sex. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, all right, appreciate it. [SPEAKER_00]: And he has this random sailing stories, meaning like, they're not wrong, like, she's just going on and on.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it just sounds like the way he's talking about it. [SPEAKER_00]: He just wants to be done with this experiment and he wants to go back to his life. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, nothing about Blake is giving. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready to settle down. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm here to do this, so. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Erica to me at this point still looks uninterested and unsure, but she does mention we have to get you a car, and I don't I don't know what this, oh God, I don't know this is my me, but this new brand of man, he's not like, oh, no, I can get my own car.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, wow, I'm excited about it. [SPEAKER_00]: You're just going to get me. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, because I think it's like, listen, and number one, I'd like to have a car. [SPEAKER_01]: Number two, like I didn't bring it up, I didn't say, hey, I'd like for you to have a car ready for me, if you want to give me a car, I'm not gonna be like, no, no, no, I'll walk.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yes, I'll take the car, give me a car. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's my thought process on that is, [SPEAKER_00]: If you allegedly had decided that you are ready to settle down, he also, I remember in the pods talked about, I'd like to have kids sooner rather than later, right? [SPEAKER_00]: You must have thought about all of this.

[SPEAKER_00]: You must have thought about, oh, I'm going to get this. [SPEAKER_00]: You must have been saving. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I don't think it's a stretch. [SPEAKER_00]: They think that you must have had a plan. [SPEAKER_00]: of what you were gonna do if you found someone. [SPEAKER_00]: So immediately someone is like, oh, I'm gonna give you a car and you're like, oh yeah, that's my orange.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is it yellow flag, whatever flag it is? [SPEAKER_01]: Just in this economy, yeah, it's gonna car you're gonna give you a car. [SPEAKER_00]: What was his plan? [SPEAKER_00]: If he really was truly looking to find a home base, what was his plan? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, his home base is the boat.

[SPEAKER_01]: So his plan was to find a woman with no roots. [SPEAKER_01]: I can just drag on to this boat with me and he'll be a cook for the rest of her life. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, so yeah, yeah [SPEAKER_00]: Um, she meets up Erica and Michaela have like a meet up and then she tells Michaela that she has always done the fine and skies, but you know, this is different and then she tries to convince us and tells us like, but I told you this, I have never laughed this much, this is like their second meet up like the, but there was another meet up nothing much really happens.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just sprinkling it with a couple's and I'm like, uh, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, I proud. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's always been so serious, but this time I had never left so much. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like laughing is not gonna gain you to have a car, okay? [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: But I think, I mean, I think she also said like, I've never, like, laughed and never had fun in a previous relationship.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what are you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, how do you go from, [SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy I know who I don't ever have any fun with. [SPEAKER_01]: To yes, I agree to go on a date with you. [SPEAKER_01]: To yes, let's be exclusive and be together for a long time. [SPEAKER_01]: The first step toward I want to date this person is usually, I have so much fun when I'm with them.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, how were you picking the guys you were going to be with? [SPEAKER_01]: If you've never had fun with a guy before. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that's what explains why she's with Blake, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's very focused, very creative driven, and a second with the finance guys, because these are the people who can take care of me in my future.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's more strategic, like it's more logical than the ocean. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, maybe we're not laughing, but at least I know that they can take care of this. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's now trying something different where he is making her laugh. [SPEAKER_00]: He might not be able to [SPEAKER_01]: He's a broke user.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's a stable. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you know, I'm laughing, and this is a different feeling. [SPEAKER_00]: But we've talked about that in the Times, Brian, where it's like, you cannot have single issue dating because you get yourself in trouble. [SPEAKER_00]: She's still not sure about what's going to happen when he's gone, and I'm like, well, she didn't figure that out, you know, that's the thing, Erica, for the rest, like, some of the couples, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: While they're still under a bubble, they're still, you know, I love you. [SPEAKER_00]: I like you, Yada Yada. [SPEAKER_00]: She has just always seen on sure, from the past. [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone knows that she throws in something that signifies like, yeah, I'm ready to have a future with you, but her facial expressions always feel like, I'm like doing the right thing, like, what the heck am I doing?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because she knows she's not, like, they have not gotten to the point where what she would need. [SPEAKER_01]: is written to basically be like, I am done with the life on the high seas and like I'm ready to settle down in Boston and put down roots and build my future. [SPEAKER_01]: He's not getting there and has no interest in getting there.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's made it abundantly clear. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm on this boat until I die on this boat. [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that she's just like, boy, this is fucking dumb what I'm doing. [SPEAKER_01]: This isn't, this isn't going to work, but here I am anyway, like logic would tell you this is never going to work because he's not ever going to be what you need him to be and you're never going to want to give up your entire life to go live on a boat for the next 40 years.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is this is dead on arrival. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: They have this weird conversation to me about Benita, like all you were ready for going to see her and all that and she's like, oh, I'm not worried because she's radically different from me. [SPEAKER_00]: I just read shade in that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know shade. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was it was look, you already got this. [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to want that. [SPEAKER_01]: She's a mess. [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of the way that it came across to me. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that we're a conversation.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that was it for them. [SPEAKER_00]: And then we move on to a knee hat and cam. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, not a shocker and nothing happened, but they got their first kiss and now I want you to pick her. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, isn't it? [SPEAKER_01]: I bet it was a packer. [SPEAKER_01]: I bet it's a packer.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're choice a word, buddy. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll meet. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, which going back to that? [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder why she didn't tell him because he did say how was the first night? [SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything you want me to be doing more of? [SPEAKER_00]: What did she just say that?

[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to like, like, turn me down, like kiss me, not pet. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't tell me this, tell him. [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I can't fix it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So, um, I don't know that I need her knows how to have a conversation in honesty. [SPEAKER_01]: That's him, like it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just always a little awkward. [SPEAKER_00]: And then she's telling him that his mood is consistent, but she's not saying it like a compliment. [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds good. [SPEAKER_01]: You picked that about him. [SPEAKER_00]: She was like, you're always so, you're always so like, even, like, you know, cam, just like, steady car.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, is that a bad thing? [SPEAKER_00]: Anya? [SPEAKER_01]: Where is your rage? [SPEAKER_01]: I need that. [SPEAKER_00]: He's so fine. [SPEAKER_00]: She does say I love you though. [SPEAKER_00]: It's always so confusing for me when I see them all Body language saying one thing and then the thing else coming out of the mouth because I'm like, okay I love you because it's just tough for me if I don't mean it I can't say I love you even if it's like a friend or something people just say I love you [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm watching Below Deck and Frazier is the chief stew right now, and it's just be like the first chart in a few days.

[SPEAKER_00]: He already told one of the, the stews, I go, okay, I love you, everything would be fine. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you just met. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't do that. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you love about them? [SPEAKER_00]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: No, thank you. [SPEAKER_00]: They go in their massage.

[SPEAKER_00]: The comments are just trying to have a calm day massage, but any have will not. [SPEAKER_00]: shut the fuck up. [SPEAKER_01]: He is just trying to lay here in silence and get this massage. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was not going to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: She's asking like, if I were to do this, what would happen?

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think I could go, why was I'm like, Neha? [SPEAKER_01]: Shut up, just get a massage. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so they're back in the hotel room and Neha just comes up and then she just says, so [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I didn't think my parents, do you think, what should I say?

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think you would care if my parents were really into it? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, he asked her, like, do you think they would care that I'm white or Hindu and she's like, yeah, I think they would care that we're going to hate this. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're white and you're Hindu.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, they're a sister. [SPEAKER_00]: Why did you sign up for this show? [SPEAKER_00]: If you really care about this, like, what is this? [SPEAKER_00]: But she just come out with a statement by the way. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you saw it. [SPEAKER_00]: I did. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a whole bunch of nothing.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: She's not addressing what the actuality is. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you signed up for this show. [SPEAKER_00]: We get it. [SPEAKER_00]: Your parents, you know. [SPEAKER_00]: didn't sign up for the show. [SPEAKER_00]: They have certain expectations, but if they matter to you, it's very unfair for you to bring someone else into this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't ask for this. [SPEAKER_00]: They can't do anything about this. [SPEAKER_00]: You did, and it's one thing if you're going to be like, well, it doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still going to pursue this. [SPEAKER_00]: And you guys, back in the day 80s to say, I was very strict, but I'm just like, if your parents are not going to be part of it or not going to show up, [SPEAKER_00]: I shouldn't say that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, film, drop them. [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, Taylor from DC season, she's still married to her dad didn't want to film, but he showed up eventually. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I'm just, I just don't think it's fair to the other person, like, especially when they don't want to meet and the other person needs to have that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't want to meet. [SPEAKER_00]: your parents after we get married or, you know, the wedding day or whatever part of it is like I want to meet your parents. [SPEAKER_00]: I just I think if your parents don't want to participate again, which is their right drop them that's I'm in full agreement.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you there are certain things that we need just from like a production standpoint to make the show successful. [SPEAKER_01]: the meeting friends and family is an important part of the show because there's drama that comes from that or it can like calm your nerves when you meet these inmas and you love them like to just not have that part of the show and I guess how that big of a deal they hate is good it's fine like no no I need to see if they hate him show me them hating him because that's fun [SPEAKER_00]: This is the beginning of her beginning to poke holes at everything this man does just for everything.

[SPEAKER_00]: She suddenly says asking him like, so, whoever you dated in the past, I'm like, oh, pod question, like you had, that's what it's like. [SPEAKER_00]: I was to talk about everything under the sun and this is not a now, getaway question. [SPEAKER_01]: Never came up, huh? [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, uh, dated a bunch of different people.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then she's like, have you dated people of color? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, man, Cam is the United Nations man. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, Cam made a mess. [SPEAKER_01]: We're a woman in Ghana. [SPEAKER_01]: He made her a dress. [SPEAKER_00]: Like he lived in the Ghana, like I just first time, I've been to some time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand this line of questioning that one seems [SPEAKER_00]: disingenuous because again, conversations you should have had, but you know, cameras entering all the questions actually, he's like, I dated this person, the last one was hi, I dated on in Ghana, I dated this and that, I fully expect her to be like, oh, so you just have a fetish for people look up.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's really great. [SPEAKER_01]: I thought she might go that direction too. [SPEAKER_00]: Because I bet she was disappointed when he said yet because then she goes, well, have you dated an Indian girl and he goes, yeah, yeah, I have. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like damn it. [SPEAKER_00]: I have nowhere else to go.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like an Indian boyfriend, which one? [SPEAKER_00]: She says, oh, so your type is culture. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what? [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought what you liked about him was that he was like, you know what cultured like he just knows things and even you about your culture and he wrecked it's I don't know she's looking for a way out.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think in her mind it was going to be okay if he says no [SPEAKER_01]: All right, fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I can ruin this so easily, but it's making him like uncomfortable and acting like you should this is normal shit. [SPEAKER_01]: You should already know this and she's like, I don't have any working go.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's not a single I have learned nothing that I can use to blow this up from this conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So again, she asked him, so are you worried like if you, are you worried to meet my parents like you especially since you're white and like that's such an odd odd question and just like should I be and she goes, yeah, you know what did you pick me?

[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why I say like surely I refuse because I've seen people saying this that oh she probably thought he was black and I refuse to accept that because I'm like that is a whole different battle to fight like I just I don't know what her plan was I've also seen like she's just being rebellious and all that I'm just will get into it she just doesn't like him I don't think to whether this or whether that she just is not like the man and she's using her parents.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, as an excuse. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, he does ask the question. [SPEAKER_00]: No, she says that they're very particular about who she's going to be with and I'm like, again, why are you here? [SPEAKER_00]: And they should say, well, what if they don't like you, then what? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it can.

[SPEAKER_00]: Anya, that's on you. [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't care. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: That's for you to figure out. [SPEAKER_00]: This is a very frustrating. [SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot of any hand cam content in this match of episodes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was a lot of that. [SPEAKER_00]: So that was why it was very frustrating because I just wanted it to be like, what would it be doing here? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so at the second meetup that they have before they leave Tulum and he had tells Rob that, you know, she's always dated older men for stability.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this is multiple times. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, why are you here? [SPEAKER_00]: I just can't ask him why is she here, but you're doing She brings up her parents again again reminder. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching this with my cousin who has never watched this show before and she's like, how many times are we going to talk about this whole thing?

[SPEAKER_00]: she brings a pair of things that she would feel very guilty if they don't like him and that that was when I realized I was just like she doesn't like him. [SPEAKER_00]: She's just looking for an out wanting to be uncomfortable. [SPEAKER_00]: She wants him to call it off so that she's not the one who called it off and exactly that repetitive and not good.

[SPEAKER_00]: So [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure why they have any. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm making the rounds during the meetup and talking about the parenting because she goes and she talks to John about this all over again. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know why no one is saying why you're on the show if you care so much about what your parents think.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not a one person said that because that's my first somebody should say that like what was your plan if you were coming here because I think at some point Cam had asked do they know that you're here and she goes they know I'm doing a dating show but I'm like [SPEAKER_00]: So do you do you do you do you really feel guilty you're set whoever you were gonna be up with for failure?

[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely failure. [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way there's no I mean it's one thing to be like yes They know that I'm here they don't approve. [SPEAKER_01]: I told them I'm doing it like it's for me Whatever it's a whole other than you like well [SPEAKER_01]: They know that I know what a television is.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess they probably know enough. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, man, you're, like you said, perfectly. [SPEAKER_01]: You're set this down and profilier. [SPEAKER_01]: There is so much to explain and hurdles to overcome now. [SPEAKER_01]: He's never going to be able to do it in the short amount of time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: That is absolutely true. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, John just give the example of the Christian thing where like Sarah, he's family is Christian, Sarah is not, but he just feels like they're going to love her when they meet her and they're more concerned about him being happy than anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: So she's like, that's true, but in her mind she's just like, I don't need common sense right now like I just need you know what. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think what annoys me with her is like, she's not being reassuring to him and not saying things like, you know, it doesn't matter regardless of what they think.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love you. [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to have their blessing. [SPEAKER_00]: But if we don't have it, I'm still gonna marry you. [SPEAKER_00]: Instead, she's putting it on him. [SPEAKER_00]: Are you okay with that if they don't show up? [SPEAKER_00]: Now what? [SPEAKER_00]: What are we gonna do?

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you keep harping on it. [SPEAKER_00]: You're not even presenting it gently. [SPEAKER_00]: You're insisting on making him nervous and giving him anxiety and like because he keeps saying like, okay, should I be worried and you're just like, you know, don't be because I got your back, you're just like, yeah, you should be you should be worried so that's my upset.

[SPEAKER_00]: with it because you know I'll give grace for like you know culturally let's keep all the fact that she still came here maybe she was trying to do something to step out side of for comfort zone and do some for herself and live for us alive and maybe old habits die hard right like okay oh my god i don't want to embarrass my parents i love my parents but you should still have some kind of backup and some reassurance [SPEAKER_01]: For him, at this sum, the smallest amount of they have problems that's their problem.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I want you, there's none of that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, instead she's just like, well, my parents are more strict. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you don't understand. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I did a strict or is like, you don't have a backbone to stand up to them. [SPEAKER_00]: Not saying is going to be easy, but if you're going to go all the way, listen, when you decide to do shows like Marida for a site or love his blind, you really got to get your co-honies up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you are doing something really bold. [SPEAKER_00]: You might as well dive all in. [SPEAKER_00]: All this, I take things slow at my walls up. [SPEAKER_00]: But you, the minute you started that application through that out the window, you know, just dive in. [SPEAKER_01]: What you're doing is clinically insane, so like you have to just go with it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't ask a very great question. [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, are your parents going to be more worried about the fact that I'm white or that I'm not Hindu? [SPEAKER_00]: She goes, white definitely, it's stupid. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm like, I need a, put some news on it. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is, I guarantee what I'm going to say is not true, but I'm wondering if in her mind, it's like, well yeah, they'd be like they'd rather they'd be okay if he was black, but just like anything but white.

[SPEAKER_01]: Where I'm like, I just don't think that is realistic. [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, go find an Indian man. [SPEAKER_01]: This is that important to, if you're pleasing your parents like this, is going to be that crucial to who your pick as a partner. [SPEAKER_01]: You can't just grab any old body then.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like we've seen this with cement and Jenny. [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you want? [SPEAKER_01]: Is that the future you want to look like? [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I also don't believe her because remember at the reveal, what did she say? [SPEAKER_00]: You need a fuck boy haircut, you need a piercing, you need, I'm like, that's your ring.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what you think, yo, your parents would be like, yeah, that's what I, it would focus from what I hear, they would want someone that's like, you know, preppy, can't, like, what do I do? [SPEAKER_01]: Doctor, lawyer, engineer, that's your question. [SPEAKER_00]: These, this, this, this poor parents, because you know what I like is the fact that she's worried about her parents, but she's portraying them as these people who are intolerant.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_00]: That's just a funny part. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I can get the perspective of culture and stuff like I get it. [SPEAKER_00]: But you speak to an American audience who, for most of them, they're just like, what the hell? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is not a thing. [SPEAKER_00]: I have sympathy for her in the culture department, but like I said, if you're going to sign up for this, [SPEAKER_00]: To me, you've thrown that out the window.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now is what they're supposed to figure it out. [SPEAKER_01]: I hope they come on the show, because if they don't come on, the only impression I have is they might be big. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, that's not what you want. [SPEAKER_01]: That's not the only impression you want me to have because number one, I hope they come on the show.

[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, I hope they come on the show and love Cam and is really put her in a bind. [SPEAKER_01]: Where it's like, oh no, no, no, we love this guy. [SPEAKER_01]: He's awesome, stay with him. [SPEAKER_01]: And then just to find, which happened to them with Courtney's family on May that for a site, brought this man there, like, well, you guys are going to kill him, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: And like, no, he's fucking awesome. [SPEAKER_01]: Stay with them. [SPEAKER_01]: The law was at your stuck. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, before I read them at the point, what are you going to say now? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, the internet is vicious. [SPEAKER_00]: They're just going to destroy you anyway.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I'm just like, you're so worried about your parents, which is why I'm like, [SPEAKER_00]: give someone to standing and it's not like cam is not aware of other cultures and will not be understanding of this, you could have just been delicate again, it's because she doesn't like him, but you could have been delicate about it and didn't just present it in a different way, considering your parents and then considering because they're again, [SPEAKER_00]: different a range marriage there might say it's completely different.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know some may argue that this is an arrange marriage but I don't think love is minus an arrange marriage. [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't call it that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah you have a hand that you have a say. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah so it's unfortunate that all the things you just worried about she is single-handedly doing all of the things to make things worse [SPEAKER_00]: All right, the final couple was Rob and Michaela, these two are just, is it weird that they might be the hope for the season?

[SPEAKER_01]: For now, I'm pretty sure they are. [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that's weird. [SPEAKER_00]: So now, like, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: They have like this weird dragon fruit, like if you were fruit, what fruit would you be? [SPEAKER_00]: And she quickly respond without ready. [SPEAKER_00]: Without hesitation, a dragon fruit.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just like, what? [SPEAKER_00]: How to get a dragon fruit? [SPEAKER_00]: He goes like, I'll be a Clementine. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what, where did we come from? [SPEAKER_00]: Every time they're together, they're just nonstop laughing about certain things and thank God for the names of the bottom of the screen [SPEAKER_00]: at first when they came on I missed it and I was like, I'm going to get it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get it. [SPEAKER_00]: Who is this? [SPEAKER_00]: Is this Rob? [SPEAKER_00]: Is this place? [SPEAKER_00]: Then I'm going to get it. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get it. [SPEAKER_01]: It was a rob. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, these two have already predetermined that their kids will be annoying or as Michaela says their daughter's going to be a bitch.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just, um, word for word to record. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what she says. [SPEAKER_00]: Good Lord. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, their line on they're going to want to smoke a cigar out there. [SPEAKER_00]: They want to do all these things. [SPEAKER_00]: She says in a confessional that she craves chaos.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, she's saying you're not to him. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't like that because I mean that what that tells me number one is you're not really ready for a long-term relationship and number two, if things are good, you're going to sabotage it because you you need to have something bad happening to like give you energy.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't read it that way. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a good thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Like chaos is not a good work. [SPEAKER_00]: I just think she meant it like she's needs things to always be happening. [SPEAKER_00]: She's not able [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't necessarily mean like all the things going on.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like we need to have these adventure. [SPEAKER_00]: We need to have things. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not necessarily good, but I didn't meet it like in sabotaging because she doesn't give me sabotage energy. [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly. [SPEAKER_01]: No, not nor I right now, because it's just still chaos.

[SPEAKER_01]: You still got to meet your family and all these other things are going on. [SPEAKER_01]: It's still a pod meet up. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying, like, year, year eight of their marriage, it's like a wins day evening, and it's like raining outside. [SPEAKER_01]: And there's not really shit to do.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just the two of y'all in the house. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and things have been good for months, are you bored at that point? [SPEAKER_01]: Are you saying, I missed the passion of screaming at each other forever, or whatever? [SPEAKER_00]: I think she would have mellowed, you know, when they have, I hope so.

[SPEAKER_00]: These kids that annoy the hell out of them according to them, they would have evolved. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the thing about human beings is we evolve, right? [SPEAKER_00]: So things you think you wanted to come back, I'm like, I can't believe I ever thought I create chaos. [SPEAKER_00]: I would kill to have peace and stillness right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I can these two are the closest to me hearing accents. [SPEAKER_00]: It was one conversation that they had and I could hear they were both having their hypothetical night or evening that they would spend with each other and I could hear the accent and both of them in this coffee is there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, at the second meet-up, I think that's what Kim was sharing with Michaela that Rob has shown so much growth and I'm like, was this man a monster? [SPEAKER_00]: Why is everyone? [SPEAKER_01]: Must have been you didn't see any of it, but he must have been a real terror in there. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Michaela has an exuberant laughter also.

[SPEAKER_00]: So um, that was it for them. [SPEAKER_00]: Like they had a good honeymoon. [SPEAKER_00]: They were having fun. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell if they had text or not. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if they talked about it. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't talk about it. [SPEAKER_01]: But the amount of like random kissing that they do. [SPEAKER_01]: I hope so. [SPEAKER_01]: Like it seems like they should be fucking by now. [SPEAKER_00]: They are the most affectionate. [SPEAKER_00]: I will tell you that this batch of couples are not affectionate.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about it in the scene where something happened and I'm just like, okay, now next at kiss, nothing happened. [SPEAKER_00]: There's no affection within these couples and Robin McKayler are the only ones who give us any affection of any sort of self. [SPEAKER_00]: So that was it for Tulum.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to wrap up this episode part 1. [SPEAKER_00]: You can hop on over and listen to part 2 when the couples go back to Boston. [SPEAKER_00]: Did you have any final thoughts of a Tulum that stood out to you? [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there was a scene where I think it was Cameron and they had talking about duo guanas bite.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't. [SPEAKER_01]: I've been I've been to many of resort in Mexico where they were just like free-range iguanas walking around They are the mellow list animal. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: They're not gonna mess with you just they'll even know you're there So just like relax your fine around in a guana Which is always there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a couple of who just everywhere around the pool and I was like [SPEAKER_00]: Alright guys, hop and over to Part 2, you know where to find me, it's Taint Talks and all social media, and we'll see you over there on the other side. [SPEAKER_00]: Until next time guys, bye!

Love is Blind USA - S11 Eps. 6-8: Part 1 w/Brian

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