Love is Blind USA - S11 Eps. 9-11: Part 1 w/Brian

0:08 [SPEAKER_01]: everybody welcome to another episode of Teen Talks. [SPEAKER_01]: I am your host, Tane. [SPEAKER_01]: Here to talk to you today about love is blind season 11 episodes 9 to 11. [SPEAKER_01]: Here with me is always his brand from Mass Virgin. [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Brian. [SPEAKER_01]: How are you?

0:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I am in the best mood ever because it's the day after Halloween. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think I traumatized a couple of them. [SPEAKER_00]: I got all the things that I want to get from my Halloween. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm in a fine mood to talk about and insane talk about episode. [SPEAKER_00]: It's quite frankly.

0:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, honestly, I think it's on par. [SPEAKER_01]: It was a very spooky episode. [SPEAKER_01]: It was a very terrifying episode. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my god, what am I watching? [SPEAKER_01]: But I hate to say it. [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like I understand when they are like, you guys are like, bring the mess.

0:50 [SPEAKER_01]: This was the mess. [SPEAKER_01]: We were in the dirt. [SPEAKER_00]: They absolute sludge just foul this whole episode. [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, wow. [SPEAKER_01]: We were okay somehow skipping before we get into that as usual letting you guys know picture. [SPEAKER_01]: Now comes such taint talks you can get bonus episodes.

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1:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes there's documentaries, I was trying to remember the last bonus episodes that I did, but it's on there. [SPEAKER_01]: Just go on there and we're chatting with his blind because we can't believe what is going on. [SPEAKER_01]: Also, as a civic duty guys reminder voting is coming up, please go vote because it matters and because we have to privilege to do so, so I encourage you.

1:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a flex to say, I never vote. [SPEAKER_01]: My vote doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_01]: It does. [SPEAKER_01]: Just take the time, read it up, go vote, vote it early, but you know, the third coming up, so go do that. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, much. [SPEAKER_01]: I know you guys are great, you will.

2:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And I do want to talk about this just because it was heavy on my heart. [SPEAKER_01]: If you have not heard about it, it is about the young man, Javice Frimpong, who got murdered. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and Bronx. [SPEAKER_01]: He came from Ghana. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly a year and a day ago. [SPEAKER_01]: And he was being bullied in school.

2:22 [SPEAKER_01]: His dad running over thinking that you have a better life here. [SPEAKER_01]: And it just turned out in a very tragic way. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just really sad guys because I just feel like we need to do better humanity. [SPEAKER_01]: We just need to be kinder. [SPEAKER_01]: I know everyone says that all the time we just need to practice that because [SPEAKER_01]: The other thing I kept thinking about was just how he felt going to school every day and just being scared.

2:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've talked about this a little bit about, you know, when I came to this country, I kind of went through that. [SPEAKER_01]: I was bullied in high school just because I was African and some of the most horrific things, which I didn't realize were horrific until later on. [SPEAKER_01]: Just being said to me, I was like, this is not normal.

3:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just imagine his fear because I remember just like not understanding, not knowing what was going on, not wanting to piss anyone off, [SPEAKER_01]: But also not telling anyone because I didn't want anyone to worry about me, but you know, in his case, we don't have all the [SPEAKER_01]: details and everything we're just kind of I guess his dad was guessing that it was tied to the bullying and he had no idea and his principal was who told him like hey this guy's been bullied and I saw a lady again we don't know what's back to or not but a lady on threads was like that's my daughter's classmate that she did sit confirm that he was being bullied like no matter what the situation is let's just do better in general like kids why are you being someone so early yet it's been there from the dawn of time where people bully people but

3:42 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not okay, discussion I have died. [SPEAKER_01]: He has a mom who's all the way on the other side, who now, you know, center kid off thinking she's doing the best thing. [SPEAKER_01]: And now, she has lost her kid forever. [SPEAKER_01]: No parent, she ever have to bury their kid. [SPEAKER_01]: And my heart is with them.

3:56 [SPEAKER_01]: My thoughts and prayers are with them and they're so rest in peace and I didn't know if you had anything to say about them, but that's interested in my heart to say something. [SPEAKER_00]: No, absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, you know, I, [SPEAKER_00]: suffered bullying as a kid. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a whole different time, but I was, you know, often the only black kid in class and I was fat and I had a Southern accent because I was from Texas at the time.

4:12 [SPEAKER_00]: So like everything was not going my way. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it is important that we raise our kids better than this. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like we talked to my son all the time who was he'll be eight and a couple of months here about like [SPEAKER_00]: you know, how to treat other people appropriately and that it's not okay to even even like little things like bragging about meeting somebody at a game or whatever.

4:33 [SPEAKER_00]: It starts with little stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that, you know, all too often we get parents who just don't want to have a hard conversation with their kids. [SPEAKER_00]: I think this goes to a lot of things that we're seeing right now with a lot of the political issues as well.

4:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just you're afraid to talk to your kid about a complicated issue. [SPEAKER_00]: And so you want to make sure [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, well, no, you need to be able to talk to your children. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it starts young, but if you let them be an asshole, the people when they're little, that's going to keep on going as they get older and then eventually, you wind up in situations like this where you have, you know, herd mentality, they find somebody that they think is weak or easy target or whatever, and it just, you know, snowballs.

5:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And so do better by your kids [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want your kid to be the one who ruin somebody else's day or lead to somebody, you know, take him in life or try to trick with the answer, whatever, you know, just, you know, be better just all around be good people. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it.

5:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: It starts your home, it starts a little by a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: That's our message for the day, as we wear our Elizabeth Holmes. [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine how it fits today. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're not quite turtlenecks, but yeah, it's not a world where all, we're dressed like, like members of the Adam family today.

5:53 [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't watch a video, we just somehow have, as the Brits will say, Black Jumpers. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're the, the main cast of the film set it off. [SPEAKER_01]: okay like we said there was a lot that went on here as always as we've been doing all season this episode is gonna be split into two parts gotta give you know make it digestible just so you get it in so we'll do part one and then hop on over to listen to part two I will say this batch was the rob show well in the episodes eight and nine and you know what we got confessionals confessionals make a huge difference guys [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we need to tell me what to think.

6:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we have a little bit of stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: I knew what to think. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kidding, what to think. [SPEAKER_01]: But it was like it's helpful to tell the story. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are you thinking? [SPEAKER_01]: So I can judge based on that, you know? [SPEAKER_01]: So that being said, no further ado.

6:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's start with McKaylor Rob. [SPEAKER_01]: Because what we're going to do is go through a couple by couple, go through the pot squad, meet up. [SPEAKER_01]: Then we'll do the wedding dress and talks. [SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, go from there without. [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so they're meeting her parents and it's just the fact that these people have to use this goblet.

7:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So whatever it is, everywhere. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why it's annoying. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's 11 seasons in and it's just ugh. [SPEAKER_00]: I get it for like, you know, for obviously for continuity purposes. [SPEAKER_00]: And I get it with alcoholic drink when you're at the restaurant with your family and you have your goblet plus a goblet for water, plus like a second goblet for like your next water refill.

7:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not checking how full your water is, it's the course of the scene goes on one I understand when they have the entire table full of them. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like this looks absurd. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm just like, these are also some very hydrated people. [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say nursing, but let's go, we hydrated.

7:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's all some of them first or two words. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, her mom had, you know, cook some food, but her dad was just about the pizza.

8:09 [SPEAKER_01]: They're having this important conversation. [SPEAKER_01]: This man got up, he's around the table, trying to give him a slice of pizza. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the meal was like, it was pasta pizza and a salad. [SPEAKER_01]: I guess what it was, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It was a homemade olive garden spread.

8:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to see what kind of pasta it was because it was like, I couldn't tell. [SPEAKER_01]: It couldn't tell. [SPEAKER_01]: It was different. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, homom says like she's very happy for her and that got sent someone who loves her and you know Ryan I feel bad when this happens when you know that this person is terrible these people are not gonna last and the parents are just like I can feel it.

8:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I just know he's a good guy It is like when it turns out otherwise you gotta be like damn my spirit of discernment is all right [SPEAKER_00]: up to this point. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, I can see it. [SPEAKER_00]: They seem they're doing better than everybody else. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, I could see how this is going.

9:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh oh. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, insert Halloween music, whichever is your choice. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Miguel goes downtown to meet Rob's closest friends and he's very concerned about how he's going to go. [SPEAKER_01]: I will say that it is a choice to introduce your fiance at the same time to six men.

9:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I had thoughts about, I mean, there's a lot to discuss in the scene for one. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have no female friends at all? [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't have like one other woman who's also there. [SPEAKER_00]: Even if it's like a one of these guys, at least one of them somehow has a wife.

9:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw a wedding and one of these guys fingers. [SPEAKER_00]: Like there has to be all woman. [SPEAKER_00]: You could also have here to like give her somebody to reflect things off of a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: to balance the energy though. [SPEAKER_01]: Some of the lot of drunken male energy.

9:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just as wise as it was a choice, because I think he mentioned it earlier when they met his mom. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think his mom even said something like, oh, anybody, you know, he was like, no, it's important, like the guys. [SPEAKER_01]: But because Rob is one of those guys, like my guys, my guys, my friends, like I want to impress them, I don't even think that was a thought.

10:10 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, like and even if like maybe two friends, but six six drunk men will all of them. [SPEAKER_01]: We're not drunk, but one They might have been drunk and then he was basically seven. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, yeah, that was a choice So immediately the [SPEAKER_01]: Crude Talk begins because it's just like a question mark question mark question mark because one's like oh yeah Like you look like you be in a hot Italian mother making meatballs and play around in the bedroom You know what I mean you just met this woman why are you talking about her bedroom skills or whatever it is Really and then why is Rob not like he managed what the fuck up?

10:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but what are you doing? [SPEAKER_00]: He's just like, ah, and like, nope, nope, nope, not the reaction. [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's one of those guys, like my friends, my friends, I have you still want to impress them and be that guy. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and the friend. [SPEAKER_00]: And for my perspective, my female, my friend group in here in Iowa is like 99% women.

11:07 [SPEAKER_00]: There's one other guy, and then it's just a bunch of women. [SPEAKER_00]: My friend group from back home. [SPEAKER_01]: OK, Blake, we're getting the OK, Blake. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I saw myself there. [SPEAKER_00]: They're much better people than those. [SPEAKER_00]: For my friend, back at home in Chicago, we, this is lame and I will embrace this.

11:29 [SPEAKER_00]: We do a guide trip every year. [SPEAKER_00]: I decided to shoot for it. [SPEAKER_00]: We had to come up with a branded name for us. [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's the 616. [SPEAKER_00]: They're 16 guys that all get invited on this trip. [SPEAKER_00]: usually to be like 10, 11, 12 that can actually make the trip.

11:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Not a single one of them acts like any of these men. [SPEAKER_00]: Like nobody in my friend group would behave this way. [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody would think this is okay to like talk to somebody's fiance or girlfriend or wife when you meet her like this. [SPEAKER_00]: So when I saw this, I'm like, oh, this reflects so terribly on you because my guy friends would be like, those guys are jackasses.

12:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we don't want to hang out with those guys. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, I mean, it's just, again, [SPEAKER_01]: Birds of the same feather, I guess, going together. [SPEAKER_01]: The next thing that comes out of his mouth is like, so have you had an only fans? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, this is, I don't know what's happening here.

12:17 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, some fake pics? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what do you do then? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then the friend suddenly insinuating that, you know, after asking what she does, that is she on here for other reasons, you know, basically saying like, she's here to promote her business. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I can't fake it.

12:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to find love. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I'm here to do. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's here to find someone and whoever she's with, they're gonna be hotter and richer together. [SPEAKER_01]: And the friend was like, I mean, that was great, but it sounds like you Chad G.P.T.

12:43 [SPEAKER_01]: the answer. [SPEAKER_00]: So... And listen, listen. [SPEAKER_00]: Frankly, if she's on here to promote her business, she's doing a terrible job. [SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what it's called. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, maybe with this place. [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't done one of those like, oh, let's go see where you work and go meet your co-workers.

12:57 [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't done any, I know that she sells, [SPEAKER_00]: women's boutique franchises and thus trainings. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I would even look up to find that which one it is. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just the vibe of everything was just terrible because again, the next thing was like, so did you get along with everyone in the pod?

13:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, who did you hate? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, did you get along with them? [SPEAKER_01]: And then, I don't know, it was just as the hours went on, the alcohol was getting more and the more belligerent. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say it was all of them, but it was just one guy really because honestly if you ask me, I'm about to say it all of them, but as I'm thinking about it, I'm like really it was just that one guy who was doing all the talking because it's like he's a rock part two, something all the energy in the room and taking over everything because these two insecure people feel like they have to be the life of the party except that they're detrimental to the party.

13:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd say it was it was one and two halves because there was a guy that was like two seats his left that looked a lot like him in glasses and he had a couple of moments and then I need to talk about their one and only black for him because the one time he spoke he was tripping but did you catch the Harlem reference?

14:09 [SPEAKER_01]: We're getting there. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to layer all the things they said because it was like a pyramid and it was just getting worse and worse and worse as they kept going. [SPEAKER_01]: So then this guy again is like cheerful, gorgeous fiance that is hotter than I ever expected.

14:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought you were going to be a zero. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it's not a good look. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I know people do this. [SPEAKER_01]: I give you a younger or whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: Rob is not young. [SPEAKER_01]: This people are not young. [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, you know, 30 years and stuff.

14:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you think that it's cute to keep racking on your friend in public, again, not cute, you know that he's introducing his fiance. [SPEAKER_01]: This is a big deal. [SPEAKER_01]: And he should try to be on your best behavior. [SPEAKER_01]: But it feels like you want to be on your worst behavior for some reason.

14:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you're just like, making your friend. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, I feel like they got hammered before the dinner and then showed up and just I kept on drinking or something like that here's the thing, Brian, I feel like even if they weren't hammered, this is what we would get the apple all exactly right, yes, but this is what they're just badly be eighth and it's just unfortunate because we saw Rob with his mom and we're just like, how would this sweet O lady like what what what happened, where do we go wrong?

15:19 [SPEAKER_00]: What happened, you know? [SPEAKER_01]: And then the friend keeps going on and on and talking about they just go to the golf course, they could hang and then he's like, we pull our cocks out on the golf course. [SPEAKER_00]: Why do that? [SPEAKER_01]: But you see guys, this is what I was talking about and the previous episodes recap when I was saying like, is Michaela just, I know she's comfortable with him, but are we veering too close to the gross sun?

15:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm not blaming her for this, but I'm just like, is it that bro thing like I'm cool and whatever? [SPEAKER_01]: So now you think you can, but they've never met her. [SPEAKER_01]: This is the first time, and this is how you're talking to her. [SPEAKER_01]: Like what happened to, there's a lady among us.

15:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Why am I talking about our talks out? [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, well, and I'm thinking about how my wife would handle this because like number one my friends again would not behave this way and if they did I'd like would we have to go and like I'd probably never hang out with you again. [SPEAKER_00]: This is a nightmare.

16:11 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that she would like basically do what my Kayla's doing play along and then when we get in the cargo I fucking hate those guys like I don't want to hang out with them ever again like you can go kick it with them if you want do not invite me I don't want to be part of this. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think I wonder if that was kind of her thought process was like I'm just going to get through this and then when we're done with it like I'm not going to call you out in front of your friends, but when you get home like I'm going to make it clear this was not an enjoyable experience for me, I don't want to do it again.

16:40 [SPEAKER_01]: don't even hold her accountable for anything or however she acted in this because I always try to remember as much as she's just meeting them for the first time she just met Rob three weeks ago. [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a whole other layer to that that's different but everything the onus wasn't Rob.

16:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Everything was something to handle everything in every way and he just absolutely failed in that regard. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he does try to say like, okay, this is a lot like you need to stop and all that and, you know, she's the one who's like, oh, it's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I can chill because I think again, that's where she veers to close to.

17:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm cool. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm chill. [SPEAKER_01]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_01]: But you do too much of that. [SPEAKER_01]: They just keep pushing and pushing pushing the line or to in the line and then it becomes like, what are we doing here? [SPEAKER_01]: So they keep ordering alcohol and then the friend keeps going the best friend.

17:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope you go out at like wild rabbits and Michaela's like, [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, thanks, thanks for the blessing, you know, for my marriage. [SPEAKER_01]: She does mention a prenob, and she's explained it. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's fine with it. [SPEAKER_01]: This is the best friend. [SPEAKER_01]: And then he kind of adapts her.

17:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he was like, wait, was this something I said? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you kind of like wash your hand like I'm from Harlem. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like translator, please. [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, translator, please. [SPEAKER_00]: like yeah there's no there's no other way you could interpret that and especially being from Boston I am sorry to Boston listeners I know the reputation of your city I know it from way way way way way way too many professional black athletes who were like oh Boston is the worst place for racial abuse you're ever going to find in America basically so to hear that I'm like there's nothing else Harlem is associated with [SPEAKER_00]: You're not from New York.

18:16 [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't reference like a black neighborhood in Boston or Southeer, whatever, like you specifically called out this one particular neighborhood and said, oh, that is no, that is the only thing they're known for like, that's what they are known to be if you're not from New York. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just like, what?

18:35 [SPEAKER_00]: How how are you you're on camera? [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna black person right next to you and he didn't react to this You see I mean you saw him shaking his head like, oh, yeah Brother, what where why are you he got you say something? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Was a nightmare we always have to remember like is there an edit, but they chose to keep that?

18:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they wanted to show us that You know [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. [SPEAKER_01]: Again, it was terrible. [SPEAKER_01]: It was not great at all. [SPEAKER_01]: So not now that regardless of if they met or not, I think if I were a McKayler, I would have been like, what does that mean? [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

19:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, sorry. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand. [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean from Harlem? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are you referring to? [SPEAKER_00]: That is the way that I handle it every time. [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody said something racist, sexist, homophobic, I don't get the joke.

19:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you explain it to me? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's talking about. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, look at me dead in the eye and they don't explain why that's what you said. [SPEAKER_01]: um then uh again it gets worse the next thing best friend says is so if he's tired of something will you jerk him off I can't I just if Michaela had chosen to walk away at this point I think she will be doing well within her right to do absolutely absolutely yeah um still Rob says nothing um the friend asked for more drinks and it turns out that they've been caught off and then [SPEAKER_01]: Rob flips the switch.

20:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Rob is like him. [SPEAKER_01]: J is cut off. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he has a name. [SPEAKER_01]: My bad. [SPEAKER_01]: J. [SPEAKER_01]: That's me. [SPEAKER_01]: So if J is cut off, then I'm cut off cut the cameras. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't understand. [SPEAKER_01]: We can do it. [SPEAKER_01]: You can put it on my card.

20:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yadda Yadda Yadda. [SPEAKER_01]: Producer says, Oh, just so you know, it wasn't me. [SPEAKER_01]: Did you get the vibe like the producer was scared of him? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yes, it's a whole thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and we saw a young woman producer is just like, look, I don't, I don't want to catch this smoke.

20:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I see your friends are belligerent and loud and getting angry. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't feel the vibe that I got was like, I don't feel safe in this situation with you guys the way that you're acting. [SPEAKER_00]: So I want to make sure that you know, I did not make this call and not mad at me for this.

20:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's like, I just wanted to know it's not me. [SPEAKER_01]: It was the restaurant who cut you guys off because he was like, who then who? [SPEAKER_01]: If it wasn't you guys, who? [SPEAKER_01]: And then he gets mad. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, take the mics off of me. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm done with this shit.

20:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not no Hollywood phony person. [SPEAKER_01]: No, you're not. [SPEAKER_01]: You're in Boston, sir. [SPEAKER_01]: So he tells his brother, [SPEAKER_01]: Hey Ryan, I think it's the same. [SPEAKER_01]: Ryan, get whatever on my card, like move this camera as all the while, you know, Jay is telling me Kayla, oh, you look like a new watch.

21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He just won't shut up. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, mash it up. [SPEAKER_00]: And like this is he asked for five Guinness Guinness isn't even like a heavy beer. [SPEAKER_01]: And he'll be the jaw half like it looks heavy. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not heavy at all. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not. [SPEAKER_01]: She's more bitter.

21:25 [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe they're doing shots in between, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I hope so. [SPEAKER_01]: She's in there. [SPEAKER_01]: He goes to the bar. [SPEAKER_01]: His brother is telling him, whispering in his ear. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, sir, your mic doesn't matter if you whisper. [SPEAKER_01]: But he's saying Rob, you need to chill.

21:37 [SPEAKER_01]: You need to relax. [SPEAKER_01]: His brother has a little sense and he's like, you just need to deal with it. [SPEAKER_01]: You have 10 minutes stop being a tough guy. [SPEAKER_01]: Like this is a person who knows his brother. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, stop being a tough guy. [SPEAKER_01]: Stop being all, Rara, I am ma'n all.

21:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, just relax. [SPEAKER_01]: So as he's going back to the table, it's very little, but he tells the producer, move this camera, watch this. [SPEAKER_01]: Almost like you want to show, I'm going to give you a show. [SPEAKER_01]: So he comes back and he just decides to lay all his pent-up aggression on Michaela.

22:14 [SPEAKER_01]: He just comes in like, [SPEAKER_01]: angry and he says like okay so check this how about the one time you said I was aggressive where you lying or not where you lying or not and she's like whoa it was not lying but I did say just a well have you felt like I was aggressive towards you because other than this moment no [SPEAKER_01]: And then he was like, well, yes, it's the one thing that I've been thinking about and the friend is like, you know, that's just how you are you've always been loud and basically what everybody has been saying about him in the past and she's like, okay, but we thought we talked about this I changed my mind and said like, okay, you weren't you didn't mean it that way.

22:53 [SPEAKER_01]: If you need more since we it was like talking to a child. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like if you need more since we talked about it Then let me know we talked about it so much I thought weren't there and he's like yeah, I just been thinking about it I'm just gonna have it on my mind because you said that about me and then he asked the the rest of dumb and dumb At the peanut gallery like As someone said you were aggressive a national TV which you feel some type of way exactly.

23:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you I'm like do you think they're not gonna agree with you like [SPEAKER_00]: And also, this wasn't on national TV. [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't even see this. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, would have had no idea this happened if you didn't bring it up. [SPEAKER_00]: And frankly, from the story that we got, if you grab her face hard enough that her earrings come out, that's aggressive, man.

23:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like a song, Chris, what are you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't mean to, but it was. [SPEAKER_01]: The fact me is that it was aggressive. [SPEAKER_01]: But also, I think it's because at that point, you don't know what's gonna make air or not. [SPEAKER_01]: So in his mind, everything is, you know, gonna come out.

23:51 [SPEAKER_01]: He says, I think Rob does this thing. [SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing he does with his mom. [SPEAKER_01]: Once he's tired of talking about something and he just wants to move on, he just starts wrapping it up and he's like, okay, cheers, cheers, love you, love you, cheers. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you just came back and attacked her in front of everyone that she's meeting for the first time and now you want to cheers.

24:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was just like, this is so awkward and the ride back must have been so weird. [SPEAKER_00]: And... [SPEAKER_01]: By the end of that, I was like, congratulations, Jay. [SPEAKER_01]: You did your big one. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, you want to keep Rob for yourself, congratulations, you did it.

24:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, that's what I get. [SPEAKER_01]: Also, you, if you want to join this club, for saying, wow, was he that bad the last time? [SPEAKER_01]: That, that's what it was, but who need it? [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and frankly, Jay is married. [SPEAKER_00]: Jay has a wedding ring on his finger.

24:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, [SPEAKER_00]: Who and why and is she safe like I don't feel good for her and so I can see if it was thing where it's like Oh, I'm you know losing my single homie and like I don't want I want to ruin this because I don't want to be by myself He's got a wife so like why are you acting this way?

24:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I just it is it is shocking to me to watch the whole thing go down [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not surprised by it because, you know, there are people like that out in the world. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, after everyone said that Rob had broken all that, he just couldn't help himself himself sabotage himself.

25:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And well, yes, Rob is that bad after asking that question. [SPEAKER_01]: And so with his friends, I don't care if you're a quiet, I don't care if you're trying to. [SPEAKER_01]: Jay speaking in the rest of you not calling him out on it or trying to stop that, [SPEAKER_01]: Or even taking him to the bathroom and being like, hey, exactly, or even telling Rob, like, okay, let's go with the least possible case scenario.

25:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And you don't know how TV works or anything like, hey, Rob, you might need to like, you know, kind of off like, you know, to make her feel comfortable. [SPEAKER_01]: This is what this is what it means to be complicit. [SPEAKER_01]: And because people think I didn't actually do it. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't actually say, but if you sit there, [SPEAKER_01]: and you watch and you don't say anything, then that's a problem.

25:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you say something's something Harlem and the black friend is sitting there just like, you know what he is? [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I'm thinking about it from like my brother, knowing that his brother was there. [SPEAKER_00]: My brother, if I had a friend who was acting this way, would for sure pull him aside by, hey man, let's have a talk for a second.

26:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to show you something. [SPEAKER_00]: He's better than you. [SPEAKER_00]: Knock it off. [SPEAKER_00]: He's not gonna do it. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, to Rob. [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but I'm saying my brother would take my friend aside. [SPEAKER_00]: And like cut this shot, you're ruining it for my brother like chill.

26:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Or I would do the same thing for him. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna be like, dude, what are you doing right now? [SPEAKER_00]: Like you have to knock it off. [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody said anything and it's just like, yeah, because you guys are all on board, but how he's acting? [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the right move is raw because raw is so, I don't know what it is about J.

26:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, J is most treasured find. [SPEAKER_01]: So even if brother did it, I think he might have gone to his brother and like, what are you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: He might have. [SPEAKER_01]: He might have. [SPEAKER_01]: So, Rob is the key in all of this. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to even remove that.

26:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Like his brother shouldn't even have to be in that situation. [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, his brother wasn't even in the group. [SPEAKER_01]: He was just in the corner. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who had the good sense to bring his brother, but they needed to do that, but he didn't work.

27:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's telling me to listen. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a calm him down to do that. [SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, fuck J fuck Rob and fuck all friends. [SPEAKER_01]: Because that really was, he really put Michaela in a situation that was not the best environment for her. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just really frustrating to watch.

27:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And at the end of the day, you come up with, oh, you called me aggressive. [SPEAKER_01]: How can you get madder at being called something that you actually did? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: No, all that was unacceptable. [SPEAKER_00]: All of it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

27:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Gonna take our first quick break and we'll be right back. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're back. [SPEAKER_01]: The pod squad is getting together. [SPEAKER_01]: Finally, it only took nine episodes. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the timing for this, it felt, it felt late, but in retrospect, it's perfect timing.

27:53 [SPEAKER_01]: We got to let things percolate. [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. [SPEAKER_01]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: So we see Robin McKay like getting ready. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, uh, what happened after the whole dinner? [SPEAKER_01]: Are we not getting a thing to see what happened? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what was the right one like?

28:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Because like, don't talk to me. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you put me in a, [SPEAKER_01]: very terrible situation and you didn't even stand up for me so what are we doing here Michaela says at this point she's exhausted like Rob had been drinking and coming out her off-camera personally that he was saying like she had things to gain professionally and that was insulting and she said well this is the confessional and after they show us that rubstroze in what a woman like nothing is happening [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?

28:35 [SPEAKER_00]: What and she looks miserable. [SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't read her face at all right now. [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's all about Rob. [SPEAKER_01]: It's all unreal. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, she thinks that he's blinded by them being on a TV show and there's really not much for her outside of his emotions and feelings.

28:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you know, I think you kind of nailed it on that. [SPEAKER_01]: He's just so wrapped up in how he feels his paranoia, [SPEAKER_01]: They get to the place the bar it sim patties day so they're all celebrating that. [SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow you're selling cam, see how on the Miami M wearing green and to me felt like a dig because all she does is criticize cam because cam is not wearing green at all.

29:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So no, thank you left the house together. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he saw what you were wearing, walked in together. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you need to remind him that you're a theme and you were in green. [SPEAKER_01]: Rob comes in and it's going to be tear of a day part two Halloween even though it's in patty's day because Rob is like Who's here who's here for the watch swap?

29:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like y'all Like my West and I watch them like how each and we both look so sour in the face the entire scene [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's used to me around his friend who's where this is regular talk. [SPEAKER_01]: And they'll be like, ha ha ha, you're me, ha. [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's like, wait, wait, wait.

29:58 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing? [SPEAKER_00]: What are you, what's wrong with you? [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, let's all get naked and play Twister. [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's like, what? [SPEAKER_01]: And then Tucker and Matt, the Beekkeeper, who was Michaela's number two comes in and Robin, he says screaming, the Beekkeeper, the Beekkeeper, and he's going to do that all night, guys.

30:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He was going to call him that. [SPEAKER_00]: This insecurity is poppin at this point. [SPEAKER_01]: It's bursting at the scenes. [SPEAKER_01]: Matt actually gets a confessional. [SPEAKER_01]: I've been begging for confessional so when this popped up, I was like, oh, what is happening? [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't like how Rob keeps calling you and be keeper.

30:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, it's intentional. [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, it's meant to be like, [SPEAKER_01]: Condescending even though that is his job, but he calls him be keeper He's like the be man or something. [SPEAKER_01]: He has a name. [SPEAKER_01]: Matt. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so he starts being aggressive Even though he hates doing not, but he is and he's just like you don't give a fuck about me Fuck you then then he says getting on Matt's bow tie and it's like let me tell you if you want to do this I could bring you to the place where you leave immediately.

31:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like is this on one side it fight because I'm not here Anybody talk back. [UNKNOWN]: I [SPEAKER_00]: No, and Matt is basically, yeah, man, I know you could, which is basically this like, okay, like you're, yeah, this is how you act. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm so impressed. [SPEAKER_00]: You could say some mean shit to me, like great.

31:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Grow the fuck up. [SPEAKER_01]: He keeps saying like I'm just joking man. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just joking, but I'm like, this is why people think you're an asshole. [SPEAKER_01]: Like what kind of joke is this? [SPEAKER_01]: No one else is laughing. [SPEAKER_01]: He's the kind of person that and I think that's why I was important for him to be his friends.

31:30 [SPEAKER_01]: His friends enable his bullshit and he just wants to be around them because they make him feel like he's the man. [SPEAKER_01]: Like Jake fish a little pond. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Michaela says that there's no man smarter than Matt. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can see how Rob would take that, but I don't know, you know, a little part of me does not think that she didn't do that on purpose because she did it on purpose.

31:53 [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, she's pissed off. [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, you're doing this again, like another, this is what three days in a row or three, I was going to roll your acting like this. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm going to show you up a little bit because I'm certain. [SPEAKER_00]: he has never felt like the smartest man in the room.

32:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And so because his fiance to be like, oh, this man is brilliant. [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't he Rob? [SPEAKER_00]: And that's just, this twist that night. [SPEAKER_01]: He's a walking in cycle. [SPEAKER_01]: Pedia, he's such a great guy. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, all right, we can't let it. [SPEAKER_01]: We got it.

32:20 [SPEAKER_01]: You got three in. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_01]: Dick's so big. [SPEAKER_00]: Look, that was next on her lips. [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, but Matt apologizes, you know, she has a conversation with Matt and Matt apologizes for how things ended. [SPEAKER_01]: and Rob's mood visibly changes.

32:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been all the while he's saying he doesn't care right, but he's moved visibly changes. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Malay and Benita walk in, Stu walks in as do Diana and Jackson. [SPEAKER_01]: Rob is just, yeah, he's just spiraling. [SPEAKER_01]: We're watching it in real time.

32:50 [SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that was missing was a timer or a clock. [SPEAKER_01]: ticker like the loud and crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: He did him like three minutes, five minutes, 18 minutes. [SPEAKER_01]: Because now he says going on a ball, I can go to any bar and Boston. [SPEAKER_01]: I could back 18 girls who looked like this.

33:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Where's Mori? [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, where is Mori? [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh my god. [SPEAKER_01]: But also why didn't Mori show up? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's just like, yeah, I did enough. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to give them anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: Any more of me to like, [SPEAKER_01]: at it or what have you I don't know because he doesn't sound like more he sounds like someone who would want to be on camera so it does.

33:28 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a big question for me was like why wasn't more here he was a big character actually when he left I was very surprised. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I was like visualists all this and then he just left I'm wondering if he honestly just had like a scheduling conflict and wasn't in town or something like that because it it is odd that he would not come to this.

33:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was playing with schedule. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think, well, you know, what it's saying, Patrick's day. [SPEAKER_00]: He might just be like out running through ballstore and hell. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a corn hole, a corn hole, a corn hole, a corn hole, a corn hole, a corn hole, a corn hole, a corn hole, a corn hole, a corn hole, a corn hole.

34:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay, then Jackson, here's the other thing that was missing. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, are they already not? [SPEAKER_01]: Our Jackson's two together because they sat together. [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't coming together. [SPEAKER_01]: Jackson's like, oh my god, Rob is my worst nightmare.

34:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But they're clicking, they're cracking jokes. [SPEAKER_01]: They're laughing. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, is this a cliff, like, again, going for the last batch where they met at the restaurant? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is happening? [SPEAKER_01]: Are we together or not? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we need that confessional where it's like, yeah, we've been, you know, seeing each other on and off last couple of, you know, weeks or whatever or, you know, well, we didn't talk for a while, then I saw her at a bar or we got drunk and hooked up, like give me some kind of context for what your relationship is right now because I have no idea.

34:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Rob grabs Michaela and he was like, listen, if I get wild or if I do too much, just tell me immediately, don't do that shit. [SPEAKER_01]: Where's nothing, I'm like, she need to do anything wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: You speak to her like she's always doing something wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, just grab my hand, just tell me immediately and we'll stop like, no, we're a team.

35:01 [SPEAKER_01]: This is this man's motto, we're a team. [SPEAKER_00]: Love you, you're a team. [SPEAKER_00]: You're a part of it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she goes, yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: And then he brings up Matt, he's like, I'm not going to be jealous. [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you think I'm going to be jealous, I'm not, she's like, [SPEAKER_01]: Don't think you are.

35:15 [SPEAKER_01]: No one's saying any of this, but one side of conversation. [SPEAKER_01]: That's, we got, um, Elaine talks to Cam and he says things aren't going as planned. [SPEAKER_01]: And she shares that I think and he has just feeling like she's not being appreciated. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I think that's where the disconnect is.

35:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, just needs to be more alive. [SPEAKER_01]: Like he just feels like, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think he doesn't like her that much and I think he's just like, you know, like, I liked the person that I saw in the pod. [SPEAKER_00]: There's been so many things along the way that I've like turned me off from her than just like, that's whatever.

35:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it works. [SPEAKER_00]: It works if it doesn't that doesn't, but like I don't, I feel like he's kind of, I'm much of that I'd say he has the Ick, but I think it's just like this is not a good match after all in real life. [SPEAKER_01]: I can see that, but I think it's tough because it's one thing to say like, okay, maybe he's beaten down from all the criticism that she gives him nonstop, but a little part of me also feels like this is just his personality.

36:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He's one of those, oh well, oh well, which is some people is easy going. [SPEAKER_01]: For someone like me, that's not easy going, that's very annoying, like it's like, come on, let's get some juice going, do we need an IV? [SPEAKER_01]: What's happening? [SPEAKER_01]: So it's the not knowing if this is a side effect of just like, I don't think this girl likes me, why am I putting effort or is it just who he is as a personality and it's like, take it, take it, leave it, you know.

36:40 [SPEAKER_00]: But again, he made a dress for a woman in Ghana that he was in love with, like I think there's some girl get it in him. [SPEAKER_01]: He said it, do we see it? [SPEAKER_01]: Do we know for sure? [SPEAKER_00]: OK, let's see the dress. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just like, there was some degree of, you know, go after what I want about him in pods that we just don't see now.

37:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And he could have been that he was like, putting on a front in the pods, entirely possible. [SPEAKER_00]: Or it could just be that he's kind of done with this. [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, we're not going to say yes on the altar. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what are we even doing at this point?

37:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're saying the same thing, we just don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It could be, I don't know, two things of we just don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: So Anita has a conversation with Erica and tells her that she pays for every single thing. [SPEAKER_01]: And like, uh, uh, uh, and Eric is like, have you had a conversation with him?

37:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, well, I don't want to talk about money. [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel weird. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to tell someone to take care of me. [SPEAKER_01]: I've never had to do that before. [SPEAKER_01]: And then Eric advises her, like, you know, a man or not, mine readers. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you have to tell them, like, there's tears.

37:41 [SPEAKER_01]: They're dumb, they don't know, or something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: You have to be explicit and live it all online. [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if this was an editing faux pas, we're going by couples, but at this point, any end-camera had a whole conversation about finances. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just like, so did she go talk to him after Erica gives a advice after the podcast or was it not?

38:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Because we'd see the conversation. [SPEAKER_01]: So Erica's saying and her saying, oh, I don't want to talk about money after we see her like be very clear about what she expects too many that was kind of weird. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think, I mean, even in that conversation, she's going to get to he was very clear about the money situation.

38:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't like it was left murky or anything. [SPEAKER_00]: So she [SPEAKER_00]: have an understanding of why she's paying for everything at this point. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know when this happened. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

38:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the way it's weird because if they have the conversation, she was very clear like you said, so she should know and if they had ends, what do you mean you don't want to talk about money? [SPEAKER_01]: You seem very comfortable and you have to talk about money so far. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

38:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Malayn comes to talk to Wilson and she does ask Willney, hey, is it okay if I talk to Wilson? [SPEAKER_01]: She does all yes, fine. [SPEAKER_01]: So they sit down Malayn tells him like, you know, I owe you an apology. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, which by the way, guys, I think I mentioned last time about him being friends with Just Mina.

38:59 [SPEAKER_01]: from Marida for sight, there was a video that came out this week. [SPEAKER_01]: It was Cam, Wilson, and Jasmina, that mean we're talking about who's house is this? [SPEAKER_01]: It's my house. [SPEAKER_01]: It was about Kinetic, I'm just disappointed that Jasmina didn't come in as a friend, but I would have loved to have her there just like to me, but not a gun will.

39:22 [SPEAKER_01]: No, to me, no, to me. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shit. [SPEAKER_00]: Really? [SPEAKER_00]: Well, me, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Might have gone very well. [SPEAKER_01]: But yes. [SPEAKER_01]: What did I come to see though? [SPEAKER_01]: So she says, like, you know, the way I was thinking about it was my friend was, like, this is my number one.

39:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was just like, I'm just going to remove myself from this situation. [SPEAKER_01]: And Wilson is like, OK, but what about us? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you were thinking about your friend, but what about us? [SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, you didn't give me any reassurance. [SPEAKER_01]: And Wilson thinks, like, it's very wise at this point to say, [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't give anyone any rich.

39:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't give anybody rich or. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, but I needed that dummy like. [SPEAKER_01]: That's so special. [SPEAKER_01]: No one was getting that bitch. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like you do that way. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, she says, I want someone that will choose me. [SPEAKER_01]: This is the same complaint that I'll really had.

40:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, Wilson, who did you really like though? [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the thing. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, we've had this couple of seasons before. [SPEAKER_01]: We're both women kind of left. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, oh, I can tell which one. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's true.

40:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Millennials and like you have to like someone more. [SPEAKER_01]: So at this point, I don't know if Willie is a default or if he really really liked her or if Wilson is one of those and I couldn't maybe I don't want to work, but she wanted to be so sure. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's that.

40:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's, because what he said was, I didn't like either one of you more than the other. [SPEAKER_00]: I like you differently. [SPEAKER_00]: There were different things that I liked about it. [SPEAKER_00]: Which yeah, which I can understand, especially if it's this condensed timeline.

40:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And you'd never spend any physical time with either one of them. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't even know if they have like greater physical chemistry with one of them than the other. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Which was like, yeah, no, I think he's like, I could have, I could have been happy with either one of you guys.

40:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I could have made this work with either one of you. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I'm not trying to be dismissive, but like I think that I could have been successful [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I will say something I think I like that they've done this season is for people who are in triangles They haven't done a follow-up where usually the people are like, oh, this person is hot like my other choice What do you mean hot or anything?

41:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think I'm okay with that like we don't take that to the camera [SPEAKER_01]: He keeps saying, well, that's whack, that's whack, that she wants someone that would choose her. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, okay, but if you feel great, why does it matter? [SPEAKER_01]: And at least the hints that we get about Wilson, like, he presents as someone who's chill.

41:37 [SPEAKER_01]: But Wilson is like, kind of like a Sean from maps, like he's an argumentating man, like he always wants to make a point. [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if he's actually listening, but I can't read Wilson. [SPEAKER_01]: This is my struggle. [SPEAKER_00]: And like Sean Wilson is always smiling.

41:53 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like if you're smiling and you're saying stuff that's kind of critical or pretty biting. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to. [SPEAKER_00]: It's I just, I watched, you can see everything with Elizabeth Holmes. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh. [SPEAKER_00]: Ha, your face and your words don't match and not sure how to feel about that.

42:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I still don't know if how if you feel strongly about what he's worth or saying something, but not getting obsessed. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm Elaine is just like, uh, I wish you well, uh, whatever happens in Malaysia.

42:26 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, God, I touched a bullet. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank God. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, best of all your future endeavors. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what she was. [SPEAKER_01]: Blake goes over to say hi to Benita and she's just like, I felt let on. [SPEAKER_01]: You said, you know, whatever word it is that she taught him and it's like, you taught me many words and she's like, yeah, but that one in particular, held a lot of meaning and you use that word.

42:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Blake is just like, [SPEAKER_01]: And I see I didn't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I remembered it. [SPEAKER_01]: I used it. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think you made anything. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought you when I said it, but [SPEAKER_01]: so he says that he felt robbed that you know that she left and the only thing she apologizes for is like I'm sorry that I said that you were making the biggest mistake of your life because she's great I love her I don't want anything and you know I wish you guys the best and if you hurt her I will find you and join everyone else and take you down I was like okay good job and you die there was also that point where she's just like I feel like I just deserve more than like you didn't

43:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I laugh so like he didn't deserve better you got what you deserved [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but the thing is Blakey media legal to Erica just tells us like, you're stunning. [SPEAKER_01]: You're great. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, that's the reassurance like immediately. [SPEAKER_00]: What you need.

43:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Matt continues to talk to Michaela and Rob is hovering around just as they're talking. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure a little part of it was to editing, but it was just for sure. [SPEAKER_01]: And he kept saying like, stay away, be keeper. [SPEAKER_01]: And if you think I give a fuck, I don't give a fuck.

43:54 [SPEAKER_01]: No one is asking you. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: No one is thinking about you. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I [SPEAKER_00]: Don't even, no one even says that. [SPEAKER_00]: That's even a real term. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like when people say, you regardless. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, it's a real malapropism.

44:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I could give a fuck less. [SPEAKER_00]: That's not even that as you make any sense. [SPEAKER_01]: Diana goes to Michaela and is like oh I'm so sorry like I don't I just you know we wanted to speak to him and she's like Michaela's like this has nothing to do with me. [SPEAKER_01]: This is between you and Rob.

44:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care. [SPEAKER_01]: You can go have a conversation and this is as Rob is barking across the room and Michaela's like well that that's what you missed. [SPEAKER_01]: You missed out off. [SPEAKER_00]: You just hear him screaming off cameras like see there he goes. [SPEAKER_01]: So Diana goes over to him and he's like, oh, checking with my girl.

44:41 [SPEAKER_01]: You got to check him with my girl and all that. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, yeah, I did, and she said it was fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Then he goes, where is it okay? [SPEAKER_01]: Is it making a big show and production about it? [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, yeah, I'm trying, you can go talk.

44:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, make me proud. [SPEAKER_01]: That sets him off. [SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, what do you mean? [SPEAKER_01]: The fuck you mean, make me proud. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm like, [SPEAKER_01]: You're a live warrior today, aren't you? [SPEAKER_01]: You're just wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't do what you're doing right this second.

45:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was also last year. [SPEAKER_01]: Days. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was him projecting a little bit of like, when you went to talk to Matt, you should have like come to me and check with me first and have him come and ask if it's okay. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is appropriate behavior.

45:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And she's just like, I don't give a shake or talk to her. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know, did you think Diana had had like a little bit too much a drink? [SPEAKER_01]: Or did you think this is okay? [SPEAKER_01]: She was right? [SPEAKER_00]: I think everybody did.

45:29 [SPEAKER_00]: It's St. Patrick's Day. [SPEAKER_00]: People are crying in the bar. [SPEAKER_00]: Like every boss it was over served. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: They make a whole big show. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's sit here. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's not sit there. [SPEAKER_01]: Then Rob was like, you know what fucking I'm just going to give us show Rob is under the impression I don't think I clocked it at as much at this point in time, but Rob is just like someone has whispered into his ear that Netflix is out here to fucking over.

45:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is just playing over and over in his head and he don't know how to act at this point. [SPEAKER_01]: So he decides I'm just going to sit here that I'm going to sit there and they do all these things. [SPEAKER_01]: And then it felt like I missed something that maybe right you can fill in the blanks for me because all of a sudden, Rob said saying, what are we doing?

46:10 [SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing? [SPEAKER_01]: over and over and over again. [SPEAKER_01]: And you think they're going to rip us apart. [SPEAKER_01]: Dan is like, who the public? [SPEAKER_01]: And then he was like, yeah, then she was like, listen, I was trying to watch season eight and I couldn't remember, I love this blind.

46:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And I could remember their names. [SPEAKER_01]: And if I don't remember, and I was emotionally invested in it, then most normal people won't care. [SPEAKER_01]: Guys, I was like, season eight. [SPEAKER_01]: Who was on? [SPEAKER_00]: Quick. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even remember. [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me someone [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what city that was anymore was that was that mini missota it was that a different That's seven.

46:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea [SPEAKER_01]: I still don't know to say, it was Minnesota because I went to Google. [SPEAKER_01]: I went to Google. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, she's eight levels by, but it was Taylor and Daniel, Devon and Virginia, who I had completely forgotten about. [SPEAKER_01]: Virginia was one of the diplomas.

47:03 [SPEAKER_01]: No wait, you know, Taylor and Devon, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Taylor and Daniel, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Where she thought he got on Instagram, they're still together. [SPEAKER_01]: And he got the tattoo of her eyes on his chest. [SPEAKER_01]: They're short-tanked. [SPEAKER_01]: They're short-tanked that they got to the hotel.

47:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't remember this. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I remember red face Chris you definitely didn't do You definitely remember Taylor and Daniel because she thought that if I saw them I recognize them Yeah, that he went on Instagram and then he had seen me for and all that and they love Christmas Yes, and they're still together.

47:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, definitely Virginia Virginia had the dimples and then Devon said he was Republican and he was [SPEAKER_01]: They broke up. [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to break up. [SPEAKER_01]: Monica, Monica, Monica and Joey, Joey like to skateboard and now he's dating somebody else on his own. [SPEAKER_00]: Is that where she the one that had the the shared sock basket?

47:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there you go. [SPEAKER_00]: I got something coming back. [SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, Diana made her point and her point was clear and right. [SPEAKER_01]: Because I was like, if I didn't look at her show and I forget that they are. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I was like, if she didn't, like, and I think part of it is like, for me, it's more like the cities.

48:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I might not know the numbers, like the city with maps. [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you tell me this city, I don't know the city for sure, but like what season and what number it's kind of tricky with that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Then she says, oh, back to Diana and Rob, she's like, you know, something that you've been worried about this this whole time.

48:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I think referring to the pods that you've been worried about being canceled this whole time. [SPEAKER_01]: So now I'm like, okay, we'll go cut out, why would you worried about being canceled what were you saying, what were you doing, why are you worried? [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you worried about that?

48:46 [SPEAKER_00]: And also why when they were on the retreat and all the men were like, oh, here comes Rob like look out We got that vibe. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like he seems normal to me. [SPEAKER_00]: We are missing a lot Apparently of him just it almost feels like this is how he always is and then when he's on camera He can like dial it back and act normal the same way that we grab in faces and tear off your rings and stuff like it feel like he [SPEAKER_00]: he was able to hold it together until he got some alcohol in him and then the mask just fell all the way off.

49:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And with him saying like, what are we doing, what are we doing? [SPEAKER_00]: First, it felt like he was chasing her around the table because he sat next to her and she was like, hold on, this feels weird. [SPEAKER_00]: And then she went to sit on the other side that he followed her over there.

49:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So that felt weird. [SPEAKER_00]: It feels to me like, [SPEAKER_00]: He is reading into this like, oh, she wants me like she wants me and I could have this if I wanted like, what am I doing am I going to blow this thing up or not that's how it felt I don't think that's the case. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's the way that he's interpreting everything because he wants it to be that way.

49:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean. [SPEAKER_01]: I can go with that. [SPEAKER_01]: It just really felt confusing as a viewer, not knowing what he was referring to. [SPEAKER_01]: You were supposed to have a conversation about how you guys broke up and the next thing is what are we doing? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, what are you doing?

50:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is it that you're concerned about? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, back to confessionals. [SPEAKER_01]: That's where you ask him. [SPEAKER_01]: What are you concerned about? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what were you? [SPEAKER_01]: worried about, like, why is the public going to rip you apart? [SPEAKER_01]: You're having usually when there's a triangle when the Potsquad comes, that is tradition.

50:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You go talk to the person. [SPEAKER_01]: You had a triangle with, so I, yeah, very, very confused. [SPEAKER_00]: It's really weird. [SPEAKER_01]: That happened. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, oh, I just want to point out, they got food at this party. [SPEAKER_01]: That was food at this party.

50:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And she got to a knee, a knee, a knee, a knee, a knee, a knee. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, enjoy it, live it up, give it a free food and it looked like good food too. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Like cheese and nuts and something that was actual filling food for all that alcohol they're applying into the hot food.

50:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Hot food. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so then he starts spiraling and again he's been spiraling all night, but he actually like jumped up to deep end with this and my question is like what triggered this? [SPEAKER_01]: He starts yelling and barking Netflix is going to make him look like he's a shit right there right where they want me Wilson tells him, okay, just be genuine.

51:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they can't spin what you don't give them. [SPEAKER_01]: Facts, you know, he's just yelling. [SPEAKER_01]: Netflix knows how to do this, huh? [SPEAKER_01]: Look at this yard sale. [SPEAKER_01]: Who can [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_01]: Then he starts saying, like, we didn't know each other a month ago.

51:26 [SPEAKER_01]: If I fell up for a bridge, no one is going to care what happens. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, guys, I mean, we're watching as the kids call it a meant to be right now. [SPEAKER_01]: But the cinema, I am entertained. [SPEAKER_01]: I was just [SPEAKER_01]: How did he pass to psychvaltest like this?

51:41 [SPEAKER_00]: My mouth was a gap. [SPEAKER_01]: This is insane. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're so worried about the fact that they're going to make you look bad and your solution was like, you know what, here. [SPEAKER_01]: Let me give you more, more and more and more. [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone was looking around like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

51:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And last drop I was saying like, there's not a lot of, um, [SPEAKER_01]: physical affection or a PDA in the background in this pod squad party. [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of physical affection going on. [SPEAKER_01]: They're just not showing it in their day-to-day. [SPEAKER_01]: Then he goes to sit with Jack and Stu and they're like, why are you here?

52:16 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh shit. [SPEAKER_00]: They're just giving each other look at each other. [SPEAKER_00]: They're looking at each other. [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, you were so far away from everybody. [SPEAKER_00]: How did he find us over here? [SPEAKER_01]: Then he tells me Kayla to pull up a seat that she should sit right here.

52:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Stu tries to cheer us him and he's like, yeah, no, I don't trust you. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, how am I bad? [SPEAKER_00]: This is so embarrassing. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not enough to touch my glass to your glass. [SPEAKER_00]: You think there's like poison on the rim? [SPEAKER_00]: What are we gonna do with your cup?

52:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Michaela does what exactly what he told her to do. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't wait, just come on my hand, just tell me immediately. [SPEAKER_01]: She goes up to him and he's like, oh, me and you, let's just, you know, sit and talk about this and have a one on one. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no, you sit down here.

53:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And then again, he's like, oh, I'm gonna get canceled, huh? [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, no, no one is going to get canceled. [SPEAKER_00]: No one's saying that. [SPEAKER_01]: And then Matt, who, Matt is smiling like he's innocent. [SPEAKER_01]: He's not. [SPEAKER_01]: He goes to check on her, he's rubbing on Michaela's on her hugging her, telling her, be okay.

53:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Michaela's like, you know, I'm just going to go to the bathroom, get myself together and I'll be fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Erica goes with her. [SPEAKER_01]: She's crying in the bathroom. [SPEAKER_01]: Rob is like, I need to leave. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to leave. [SPEAKER_01]: They actually have to beg him to stay.

53:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Because they already put on his jacket. [SPEAKER_01]: He was going, and like, you can't leave. [SPEAKER_01]: That's your girl. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I grew up. [SPEAKER_01]: I grew up. [SPEAKER_01]: That is my girl. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_01]: Then he actually starts going on a tirade about how she's crying because he talked to Diana.

53:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh my god, this guy is we could not be further from the truth. [SPEAKER_01]: The point, so Sarah's crying and Rob is just like, fuck it, Diana, do you want to do a shot? [SPEAKER_01]: I love it and Sarah's like, what, Rob, what are you doing? [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?

54:00 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing? [SPEAKER_00]: This is all insane behavior. [SPEAKER_00]: This is the way that I would have acted at like 22 when I'm drunk at the bar. [SPEAKER_00]: There's a girl there that I have a thing for that may be hooked up with or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: I see you're talking to some other guy.

54:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just going to like crash out and just like ruin my night. [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is not behavior of an adult man. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It is insane to me watching him do this and there's nobody else on his level. [SPEAKER_00]: And my thought the whole time was, if I'm Michaela, I am so embarrassed right now.

54:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is embarrassing that everybody else is able to keep it together. [SPEAKER_00]: And I am here with the loudest, drunkest, like messiest man in the room who does not understand how off-putting his behavior is to [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, this is the guy that I am with. [SPEAKER_00]: They're like so badly on me.

54:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And we say this a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: If you show your worst behavior and you are on camera, what are you doing off camera? [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: How bad, how bad was the night before? [SPEAKER_00]: Or she was like, oh, he got you out this friend and tried too much to drink.

55:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he came back to like really late into me or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: How bad was that how long did that go on for? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she would always be at the brunt of his frustrations because he's on that clearly when they met with the friends and he just came back and was like, okay, while we're at it.

55:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to put you on blast who says that to the person they claim they love and is your partner. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm good. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, blast. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, um, Michaela still in the bathroom and she's crying and she says I love him. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot, but I absolutely cannot marry him at all.

55:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like good for her. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not decision. [SPEAKER_01]: So then she comes out and then she's like, are you ready to go? [SPEAKER_01]: Like nothing happened. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, wait, what? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready to go and he goes, no. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, what did I do?

55:52 [SPEAKER_01]: What did I do? [SPEAKER_01]: I did nothing. [SPEAKER_01]: And like everyone thinks like I'm trying to hit on Diana. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, she's like, no, I do not think that. [SPEAKER_01]: No one thinks that. [SPEAKER_01]: Do not say anything. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, okay, great.

56:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Cancel me then. [SPEAKER_01]: Blake is there because she was talking, Blake was talking to him. [SPEAKER_01]: The poor guy was trying to get out, but he's like, you know, Blake is even trying to tell him, like, you need to respect her. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, that's, [SPEAKER_01]: Then Rob is like, okay, I think it's just like my the boys, my boys are in my ear saying like this is her angle and you know she's like you lost you laughed at me or something like that effect and she's like again It's not about Diana.

56:27 [SPEAKER_01]: It's about how you are behaving and then this idiot is like, [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna be bringing this up forever like, you know, you lied about me that one time and I'm gonna bring it up forever. [SPEAKER_01]: She says good I would love you forever But if you're gonna bring it up forever, but obviously this is not gonna work out and he's like oh, and then she's like, yeah, I'm gonna go home I'm gonna pack my shit and Blake is like, yeah, can I go to go?

56:48 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you can stay And then he's still on the diet and I think and he's like, you know, she's not for me I don't give a fuck about her I don't want to be with her. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Kayla's like I [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's no other way to tell him any of it. [SPEAKER_01]: So she walks away, and then they're still talking, Blake is still like, can I?

57:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, no, you still stay here in the park. [SPEAKER_01]: I could be sure you just got off the left. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why he's acting. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's kind of, he's kind of boxed in, where he's kind of like, when you live in the bar, and he's just like, God, can I limbo out of here?

57:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, is there a spin move, like, put all the gears in? [SPEAKER_01]: He's just been like, I gotta go to the bathroom and just kind of can't hold him there. [SPEAKER_01]: So he goes over Rob goes over to Michaela, like nothing happened. [SPEAKER_01]: Drap's are from behind, hugs her and is like, oh, did you call it Uber ready?

57:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he just turns to cam, who's just like holding an ea? [SPEAKER_01]: And is like, what the fuck are you looking at cam? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot and then he's like you have then he addresses the room if you have anything to say to me Say to my face not on the internet and honestly if anyone trips about me on the internet I swear to God.

57:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like you swear to God what? [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like I'm going to kill you. [SPEAKER_01]: You're good, what? [SPEAKER_01]: And then you're putting it on tape, you're putting it on tape. [SPEAKER_00]: And everyone is like, we're just trying to avoid looking at you. [SPEAKER_00]: No one is talking to you, no one is talking shit.

58:14 [SPEAKER_00]: We are trying to ignore the fact that you are here. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's all we're all trying to do. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the irony of thinking that Netflix is going to fuck you. [SPEAKER_01]: And then you gave them, I mean, maybe he was right. [SPEAKER_01]: They got where he, where they wanted to be.

58:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And that was the best of this Dorsey and Stacey style. [SPEAKER_00]: Like you manifest it. [SPEAKER_00]: You made this happen. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they do leave. [SPEAKER_01]: They leave hand in hand together. [SPEAKER_01]: They're in a mic. [SPEAKER_01]: Mikala, please stick to what you said.

58:42 [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot absolutely by any means, Mary, this man. [SPEAKER_00]: But yes. [SPEAKER_01]: What a scene, guys? [SPEAKER_01]: What a scene. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I was breathing throughout the whole thing because I was like, the meaning he was like, what the fuck you looking at, Kama?

58:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, whoa, whoa. [SPEAKER_00]: never seen anything like this in all of my days. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like watching this. [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. [SPEAKER_00]: We went on and on and on. [SPEAKER_00]: And I told, I told my wife, I was like, I think he might be the worst man in the history of the show.

59:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, we've never seen anybody go off like this. [SPEAKER_00]: The only comparison that I had. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think his name might have been Shane. [SPEAKER_00]: Those are cargo season. [SPEAKER_00]: The guy with a huge teeth that lost his mind because he couldn't hit a baseball at every field.

59:23 [SPEAKER_00]: and just like blew up his hole because of the engagement because of that. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that was pretty bad. [SPEAKER_00]: This feels cold. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he also had a cocaine problem because eyes were always really wide open. [SPEAKER_00]: And he actually had the same kind of nose.

59:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh man. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's the only one I could think of where they went to the back to the party. [SPEAKER_00]: He could not hit all the other guys were hitting the balls. [SPEAKER_00]: He struck out over and over again. [SPEAKER_00]: And then he like, I think he on the either when he got home.

59:49 [SPEAKER_00]: We're like cold her in the car, I was like fuck this. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with this shit and she's like what it's going on. [SPEAKER_00]: But that felt like a moment of exclusion, this went on the entire night. [SPEAKER_00]: And apparently was the culmination of multiple days of this kind of behavior.

1:00:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So that was that. [SPEAKER_01]: And I... [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, entertainment wise 10 of a 10 no notes personal personal wise or personally for Michaela not good. [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I never for Rob. [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot to unpack here. [SPEAKER_01]: And again, this is why we say like they have to take the sake of all seriously.

1:00:22 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to talk about, you know, all the things he's been through later on, but it's like, he also wasn't engaged. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you can remember because he mentioned it at the beginning of the pause. [SPEAKER_01]: I hope the [SPEAKER_01]: Has the ex spoken, you know, I was asking the group chat if I don't know any press because everyone else is doing press and I was like, I don't mean we haven't seen this now that this scene has come out.

1:00:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if Rob has been doing any press, but I hope not. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know somebody somebody he might have. [SPEAKER_00]: I think story time of Ricky, I think he made some kind of a statement or apology or something. [SPEAKER_00]: But I, you know, when she, when she does her, she's like, okay, I don't give a shit.

1:01:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you say what you want to say. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't remember if it was him or if it was somebody else, I think it might have been him. [SPEAKER_01]: No, the only one I saw was like some creator are apologizing to me Kayla for calling her like a pick me and she was like, oh, she accepted and stuff because I think we're trying to like she's trying so hard to be a cool girl.

1:01:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So she's always trying hard things smart slide and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: But the next thing we see is Rob in the apartment doing a confessional saying like he knows what he signed up for. [SPEAKER_01]: but he got overwhelmed. [SPEAKER_01]: His family started to get anxiety. [SPEAKER_01]: I got to tell you that I don't know if I believe this and I don't know if he's an intelligent.

1:01:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe like his brother saying like, hey, you know this reality TV, you know, like, you know, they kind of get things, don't feed into it, don't do that, but then his embellish in. [SPEAKER_01]: And then he's like, his mom is crying. [SPEAKER_01]: We saw his mom. [SPEAKER_01]: His mom was like, she seemed very happy.

1:01:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I don't know her, but you seem like you're happy. [SPEAKER_01]: She even said like, your dad would be proud of this. [SPEAKER_01]: So what is she calling crying? [SPEAKER_01]: And then he was like, he wasn't 100% sure about it. [SPEAKER_01]: And because he wasn't 100% sure, it was hard to like balance everything that he was getting from people and he had things going on, you know, plus his dad, he lost his dad.

1:02:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He lost two of his best friends. [SPEAKER_01]: He lost his job, he ended the engagement. [SPEAKER_01]: What exactly was his psych evil about? [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you think that this is someone who was ready to come and do this? [SPEAKER_01]: He said he lost a lot in the last year and a half.

1:02:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And these people were like, yeah, this is a good candidate. [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get robbed on here. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and also, I, you know, I have been outspoken against like casting people for this show. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't go out and find ways. [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, man, do you want to come on the show?

1:02:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Like make them go through a full audition process. [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if they went and recruited him for this. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they would in particular, but now that I know it's something that they do and you hear about it a lot with the men, I'm wondering if they just found him on like LinkedIn.

1:02:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, hey, this is, we want you to come on the show. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you want to do this? [SPEAKER_00]: Because if that's what they did, shame on them all together. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what you're doing because they're finding that they're having a lot less men apply for these.

1:03:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, that might be for the best because these men are of low quality. [SPEAKER_00]: So, like, good, keep them away from these women. [SPEAKER_01]: So he's tearing up as he tells us all of this and he's talking about his dad. [SPEAKER_01]: He says he kept all the pain and trauma to himself because that's what you do as a man.

1:03:29 [SPEAKER_01]: is the default that pain and trauma to yourself and that he never saw his dad cry except when his dad's brother died, he's dad's brother went to prison for 23 years, came out and died of AIDS and I'm like instead of doing actual therapy, this confessional is your therapy because right now you are dropping a lot.

1:03:48 [SPEAKER_01]: In five seconds, we just found out you lost your dad. [SPEAKER_01]: You lost to your best friends, you lost your job. [SPEAKER_01]: And then an engagement and your dad's brother, you know, was in prison for 23 years and all this. [SPEAKER_01]: So this is the reason why you got to take your mental health before you make a commitment like getting married.

1:04:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's walking advertisement for men getting therapy. [SPEAKER_00]: You're able to say, well, men, you got to hold it all. [SPEAKER_00]: And you don't have to want to expose your, this is what, this is what it looks like. [SPEAKER_00]: This is what happens. [SPEAKER_00]: We've had to live that way.

1:04:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He says the experiment is not indicative of who he is, and he's very sad. [SPEAKER_01]: And he feels like he let me caler down and everyone down and her family down, but you know what? [SPEAKER_01]: you have to be strong for your family. [SPEAKER_01]: And listen, I feel for Rob, you know, he's a human being.

1:04:32 [SPEAKER_01]: This is all not great things that happen to him, but stop them in your family. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't you know, it's not the fault accountability. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: He's saying is not indicative of who he is, but it absolutely is. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when people do things that maybe they're not so proud of, yes, you can say that, but the fact that you did it, it is indicative of you.

1:04:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It's your choice. [SPEAKER_00]: You did it in day after day. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's your choice if you want to fix it or not. [SPEAKER_01]: But if you did it, you did it. [SPEAKER_01]: Your person who has done it, it is you. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it is you. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, since you. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

1:05:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Michaela talks to Erica, and she tells her that, yeah, they got home, and immediately they got home, he left. [SPEAKER_01]: Erica says, you lie. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she's an athlete left. [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, surely, after everything that happened, we're talking about him. [SPEAKER_01]: You ever heard of that, you don't know.

1:05:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, yeah, we got home. [SPEAKER_01]: He packed his stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, to Rhode Island, yep, not just down the street. [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't to Rhode Island. [SPEAKER_01]: He went. [SPEAKER_01]: He left her all by herself. [SPEAKER_01]: So even if she was like, I'm glad he did that.

1:05:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Because if you're thinking, okay, maybe he could fix up. [SPEAKER_01]: She's cold water. [SPEAKER_01]: She's reminded like, nope, this is who he is. [SPEAKER_01]: He's not gonna change. [SPEAKER_01]: Michaela says like, um, this is not going to hold a candle to how much harder life is going to be if he thinks like you're filming until TV show is the hardest thing then he's not ready at all for everything else that's going to come with that she says like she gave him a chance.

1:06:01 [SPEAKER_01]: He called her the next morning, acted like nothing happened and she's like, uh, what's happening? [SPEAKER_01]: Then she was like waiting Then he went ghost on her for like what two days and she texted him. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, if you want to talk I would talk to you.

1:06:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He did not call and then he finally did and then apologize and I was like, oh, I wish I made different choices And everything she said Erica kept echoing two days right called again That's what he did what I'm against it like [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't know what to do because she still loves him, but she's done.

1:06:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know what to do like you're doing that. [SPEAKER_01]: And then Erica says, you know, we're in our mid 30s and just thought of having to start all over again is like crippling. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, whoa, that's the what? [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she was like, man, it was sure it's luck to be you.

1:06:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, you have to go back to the bars now. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no. [SPEAKER_01]: Where you at that bar, did you see what do you mean? [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you've taken back for the convenience of it, you know? [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, Erica, that is not what we need to hear right now. [SPEAKER_01]: But McKayla is like, you know, we're not engaged.

1:07:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We are done and despite the love that she asked for him, she put herself first. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I'll be fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I just need to regroup and get myself together, but I'll be okay. [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: That's how we went on the Robin McKayless show guys.

1:07:29 [SPEAKER_01]: That was just one couple that we have spoken about. [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot wait for them at the reunion. [SPEAKER_00]: It is going to be so I hope she brings her hot new fiance. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the beekeeper. [SPEAKER_00]: But I am looking forward to them at the reunion and her just being like, y'all, I dodge the biggest bullet I ever did see.

1:07:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: She absolutely did. [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like the worst at the time, but she absolutely did. [SPEAKER_01]: Like she would have to live with that forever. [SPEAKER_01]: And then she has to be friends. [SPEAKER_01]: But the friend's always come in, they'll probably come to their house whenever.

1:08:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And Jay would be like, I mean, I've always come to his house all the time. [SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not gonna stop me. [SPEAKER_01]: Like you're gonna be the first ex-wife or something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: Who I am? [SPEAKER_01]: That's when he hears that. [SPEAKER_01]: who I really want to hear from is who he ended the engagement with.

1:08:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to know what happened, why that engagement ended and what happened there. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's it. [SPEAKER_01]: That was a lot to take. [SPEAKER_01]: So this is part one. [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to everybody else. [SPEAKER_01]: Take a breather like Michaela and then we'll be out on point two.

1:08:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So you can check us out on part two where we talk about all the other couples, but you know, [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any of the last thoughts or anything you want to add to this very eventful Potspot? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you only thought that ahead is one of those guys is probably going to be your kids Godfather so like that would be like all all of these logistics have to play out I swear to God you tell my kid.

1:08:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, why you got me like you from Harlem? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God. [SPEAKER_01]: We throwing hands, so okay [SPEAKER_01]: Alright guys, thanks for listening. [SPEAKER_01]: You know where to find me. [SPEAKER_01]: Taint talks across all social media, Brian, you want to share with people where they can find you.

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1:09:32 [SPEAKER_00]: We had some talk about this job of episodes in there as well. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the communities, unanimous, that we all hate rob. [SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to talk to our shit, pop over there. [SPEAKER_01]: Alright guys, thank you for listening, say subscribe so you don't miss out on any new episodes and see you on over part two.

1:09:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Until next time guys.